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Posted: 1/23/2022 9:31:30 AM EDT
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I have an LNR Precision Mountain Topper.. I highly recommend it. It and the other Mountain Toppers they use to sell are a respected transceiver for CW work.
The MTR4B is a 4 band transceiver that is capable of transmitting in 80M, 40M, 30M, and 20M. I currently use min with an American Morse MS2 straight key. I also have a Porta Paddle on order with the same company. |
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Posted: 1/23/2022 10:03:31 AM EDT
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I will be happy to tell you what I think you should avoid - and clearly state I do not have first hand experience with most, but watch a lot of you tube:
Avoid the Xiegu G1 - have not heard good things, to the point I stopped watching videos on it. Any of the QCX products will be good - I just ordered a QCX plus kit (3 weeks ago), no idea where it is, but hopefully on the way. But like you say, single band is limiting. I want to build the kit, and will only use it portable so not of concern to me. I also think eventually I will end up with one for 20m, and one for 40m, and be happy with those 2 bands alone. Pixies, etc - no. Very broad receiver, limited power (sub QRP sometimes). Fun to play with, not fun to use. Poster above me has some great suggestions. Ham Radio Crash Course just posted a video of his favorite CQ only rigs - like in the last day, I have not watched it yet, but bet it has some good suggestions. |
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Posted: 1/23/2022 10:37:45 AM EDT
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Just saw the HRCC video and watching it now.
The pixies seem fun to build not really the best. I kinda scratched those fast as any real contender. I like the QRP Labs minis. Just wish they had more than one band. |
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Posted: 1/23/2022 10:39:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have an LNR Precision Mountain Topper.. I highly recommend it. It and the other Mountain Toppers they use to sell are a respected transceiver for CW work. The MTR4B is a 4 band transceiver that is capable of transmitting in 80M, 40M, 30M, and 20M. I currently use min with an American Morse MS2 straight key. I also have a Porta Paddle on order with the same company. |
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Posted: 1/23/2022 11:16:25 AM EDT
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Whatever you get, don't limit the rig to outdoor work! Put it on the air in your home shack.
QRP with just a dipole can produce surprising results. I have a ball running 5 watts for the K1USN Slow Speed Contests and SKCC Sprints. It's a heck of a lot of fun. Try it. ETA: Don't overlook 15 Meter capability. With Cycle 25 on the upswing it will at time surpass 20 Meters for DX activity. Also, it you're going with a straight key, consider the Straight Key Century Club . With our twice monthly sprints, it's a good place to build up your CW skillset. And the operating frquences are a good place to find slow speed contacts. Also, for receiving practice, try the ARRL CW Practice Files. |
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Posted: 1/23/2022 11:18:11 AM EDT
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Check out the SW-3B QRP 3 band radio You'll have to order from China but can pay with PayPal and ship DHL.
73, Rob |
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Posted: 1/23/2022 11:47:36 AM EDT
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I have one of these You Kits HB-1A s
Bought it at a ham fest for $75. It has some birdies on receive on some freqs, I don't know why. Not my video. |
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Posted: 1/23/2022 2:08:39 PM EDT
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I built a QCX-mini kit for 20m and hooked it to a Sidekar. It makes for some entertainment whilst grilling in the back yard. I'm an awful no-code extra, so I really just listen.
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Posted: 1/23/2022 4:19:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: snip Any of the QCX products will be good - I just ordered a QCX plus kit (3 weeks ago), no idea where it is, but hopefully on the way. But like you say, single band is limiting. I want to build the kit, and will only use it portable so not of concern to me. I also think eventually I will end up with one for 20m, and one for 40m, and be happy with those 2 bands alone. Turkey is having a bit of an implosion right now, so shipping is strange. I ordered a couple QCX minis and WSPR beacons a couple weeks before Christmas, and the ship time was estimated at 4 days, and it took a bit over two weeks. To OP, it's really hard to beat the price for a QCX is you accept the single band limitation. I agree with 40 and 20M you have things covered, and realistically you could get away with just 40M for most of the year. 20M might be nice in the summer. |
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Posted: 1/24/2022 2:00:54 AM EDT
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Ahhh something I can intelligently discuss.
I operate 100% QRP from home and in the field. Lots of good choices. Don't be apprehensive about the QCX mini having only 1 band. Just buy more. They are super cheap. Was using mine today on 20m. Absolutely amazing rig. Filtering is fantastic and there is a volume control! Worked Texas first try. HB1B is a killer deal too. I bought some internal batteries for mine and it's just plain fun to use. MTR3b is tiny. I carry it backpacking and filter is great. Gotta be honest though..the QCX is much better on 20m. I also have had issues with it locking up and sending dits fast and won't stop. Have to unplug everything and wait a few minutes. Menu doesn't always work right either. All are good rigs. QRP is addictive. I've worked Europe with 3 watts. |
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Posted: 1/24/2022 10:27:22 AM EDT
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I really like the QCX mini. But for the cost of 2-3 of them, I can get a 3/4 bander TRS or Mountain Topper. That's my hang up. I plan on using 20 and 40 for sure and likely 30 as well.
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Posted: 1/24/2022 2:15:11 PM EDT
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Honest answer here. If you are backpacking and need to save weight ( and I say that because I work on saving ounces when I backpack). I’d go MTR3 or 4. If not, I’d go QCX. To me, it is that much better. The MTR3b has more bands and is smaller, but I hear better on my QCX and it also has a dial to change freq. the MTR has ouch buttons and it is SLOW. Yes there is an option to direct enter freq by code input, but on mine it can be iffy on the menu. YMMV. Also keep in mind that the MTR can only take up to 12V input. The QCK can take up to 14. That’s fine with me cause I run it on a 9v battery. It is reduced output, but saves me weight and works. All that said, I still want a MTR4b. But I want a lot of radios. Don’t discount the HB1B
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Posted: 1/24/2022 3:32:15 PM EDT
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I would be backpacking but not to a point where weight is an extreme concern. Other than just not using a mobile or tabletop. No summits here or even any hills. It would just be throwing in a quick 10-15 QSO activation while hiking.
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Posted: 1/24/2022 4:50:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would be backpacking but not to a point where weight is an extreme concern. Other than just not using a mobile or tabletop. No summits here or even any hills. It would just be throwing in a quick 10-15 QSO activation while hiking. Either the Mountain Topper or TR-35 would fit that bill perfectly. At first blush that TR-35 looks great. I like the fact that it has knobs allowing you to easily change the frequency and what not. In my opinion the 17, 20, 30, and 40M bans on the TR are a more useful band range. The MTR gives you 80, 40, 30, and 20M bands; I don’t even mess around with 80M because the antenna is pretty freaking long and a pain to string up. My only reservation about the TR-35 is that fact that it’s so new and relatively untested. Personally, I’m curiously to see how it shakes out in the next few months to a year. |
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Posted: 1/24/2022 5:22:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Either the Mountain Topper or TR-35 would fit that bill perfectly. At first blush that TR-35 looks great. I like the fact that it has knobs allowing you to easily change the frequency and what not. In my opinion the 17, 20, 30, and 40M bans on the TR are a more useful band range. The MTR gives you 80, 40, 30, and 20M bands; I don't even mess around with 80M because the antenna is pretty freaking long and a pain to string up. My only reservation about the TR-35 is that fact that it's so new and relatively untested. Personally, I'm curiously to see how it shakes out in the next few months to a year. Still have some time to mull it over. I'm not quite there yet on doing an activation. Still only copying reliably about 10wpm unless it's really spaced out or I get lucky. |
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Posted: 1/24/2022 7:00:18 PM EDT
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Did you ever figure out why you weren’t spotting on RBN?
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Posted: 1/24/2022 7:50:12 PM EDT
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I heard back from Hans on my QCX+ kit - supply chain issues.
He expects new board by the end of the week, and then it should be here shortly! |
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Posted: 1/24/2022 8:15:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did you ever figure out why you weren't spotting on RBN? |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 9:55:57 PM EDT
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I have a 705 that i really like for so many reasons. I've thought about the mtr3b many times. I have a couple hangups, 12v max, the switches are kinda tall and skinny and seem easy to break. QCX mini seems pretty interesting. I would probably pick 40m if i only had one band to pick. I also bought a couple of Adam's antennas. Looking forward to building them.
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Posted: 1/25/2022 11:54:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a 705 that i really like for so many reasons. I've thought about the mtr3b many times. I have a couple hangups, 12v max, the switches are kinda tall and skinny and seem easy to break. QCX mini seems pretty interesting. I would probably pick 40m if i only had one band to pick. I also bought a couple of Adam's antennas. Looking forward to building them. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 11:51:52 AM EDT
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I built one of the first MTR3b kits that came out and it's a solid little rig. I wouldn't be too concerned about the switches. if you were so inclined you could easily take a fine tooth file and shorten them. It's the smallest and lightest radio I've ever owned. The voltage input is perfect for a 3S LiPo or LiFePo4, or even just a 9v battery in a pinch. Output power is still pretty decent even at lower voltages. I might be mistaken but I think the MTR3b is pretty much unobtanium and has been replaced by the MTR4b and is currently sold by LNR Precision for $350.
It's a China radio, but the SW-3B looks interesting. Half the price of the MTR4b, but doesn't have 80m which may be a deal breaker for some folks. Not my images - just linked for reference:   |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 10:23:28 PM EDT
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I won't mess with 80m on this. 40m at the lowest. Just because carrying around a 133' of wire, even 26g poly-stealth, would be annoying. I really would like to avoid a Chinese radio if I can. I know most are to a degree but just me being me.
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Posted: 1/28/2022 11:06:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I built one of the first MTR3b kits that came out and it's a solid little rig. I wouldn't be too concerned about the switches. if you were so inclined you could easily take a fine tooth file and shorten them. It's the smallest and lightest radio I've ever owned. The voltage input is perfect for a 3S LiPo or LiFePo4, or even just a 9v battery in a pinch. Output power is still pretty decent even at lower voltages. I might be mistaken but I think the MTR3b is pretty much unobtanium and has been replaced by the MTR4b and is currently sold by LNR Precision for $350. It's a China radio, but the SW-3B looks interesting. Half the price of the MTR4b, but doesn't have 80m which may be a deal breaker for some folks. Not my images - just linked for reference: https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.ecwid.com/images/5403066/1844829043.jpg https://www.venus-itech.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/SW-3B-size.jpg |
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Posted: 1/28/2022 6:45:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I won't mess with 80m on this. 40m at the lowest. Just because carrying around a 133' of wire, even 26g poly-stealth, would be annoying. I really would like to avoid a Chinese radio if I can. I know most are to a degree but just me being me. |
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Posted: 2/4/2022 10:39:29 AM EDT
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Ordered a 40m QCX mini this morning.
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Posted: 2/4/2022 11:13:44 AM EDT
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Very impressive rig. Was just playing around with my 20m one. You will be pleased.
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Posted: 2/4/2022 12:05:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Very impressive rig. Was just playing around with my 20m one. You will be pleased. Saw you on the spot page the other day by the way. I've been making some CW contacts as a hunter lately. |
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Posted: 2/4/2022 5:11:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hoping so. If I get heavily into QRP CW I'll buy something that covers more. But my antenna is 40 only technically. And it'll do what I need anyway. Looking forward to getting it in a month or so. Saw you on the spot page the other day by the way. I've been making some CW contacts as a hunter lately. Give me a call next time. FYI if you are CW and you may already know this. Most of the time I’m using a narrow filter. Everyone it seems likes to zero beat me and call at once. I can’t hear crap then. Tune off just a little to make your signal sound different. I can pick you out then. The guys that do that are the ones who get answered in a pileup. |
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Posted: 2/4/2022 7:39:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Give me a call next time. FYI if you are CW and you may already know this. Most of the time I'm using a narrow filter. Everyone it seems likes to zero beat me and call at once. I can't hear crap then. Tune off just a little to make your signal sound different. I can pick you out then. The guys that do that are the ones who get answered in a pileup. |
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