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[#1]
Good of you to keep the bear population in check. Those hides look good. |
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[#2]
6.8mm is bear medicine? I always thought you started @ .30"-06 & worked your way up.
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Watch this space. In the meantime - be evil.
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[#3]
Hammer em.
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My daughter used the 6.8 for caribou, bear, and wolves; bear run 20-30 yards let out their bawl. More grizz have been shot by the ole Indians than everybody else combined; usually with 30-30s. That grizz my nephew got, he hit it in lungs, faltered then collapsed 15 more yards. 308 is plenty enough gun for anything you'll find in Alaska. Myself, I like the magazine. When game is moving out, I always get luckier 3rd or 4th shot.
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[#5]
Help me out here. Doesnt providing all that trash with food in it cause bears to associate it with food?
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[#6]
Very cool pictures OP. Thanks for posting.
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[#7]
As much as I hate backpacking with a bear can, that's why I do it when I have to!
Where did all the trash come from? Was that bait? |
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Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Some die and leave their mark, some just a stain. - Les Claypool
Thanks for the homoerotic vision to start this thread. - elcope |
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Not allowed to use wild fish or meat scraps for bait, sweets work best, dang bear got a sweet tooth. First, I take it you have never baited bear? Question seem humorous. Entire plan is to lower bear populations or they break into houses, caches, fish racks, and they also take 85% of moose calf production, the big one for me. People around here shoot every bear they see, all year long; they are dangerous pests. I have several friends who have been mauled, have scars from head to foot, now those guys really hate bear. I just do my patriotic duty to control their numbers.
My stand is over a mile from my house, but bear travel all the creeks anyway. You want them in fear of people or people die. I've had bear crawl in real slow on me like a cat on rabbit in cut hay field, front quarters down, butt high, ears going like crazy; they planned on eating me, blk bear, 150 lbers. They are pests to be sensible about. People here along the Yukon eat bear, so I bait and they all the locals get a bear or two for freezer. Nearest Sams is 400 miles away, our road is open a few months every summer. People here don't live in cities like you all do. Subsistence hunters, White and Indians alike. Bear like popcorn, dog food, old vegies, syurp, salad dressing, peanut butter, miricle whip, sweets mostly. Go nuts over old donuts & sweet bread. I've fed them 2 bags of science diet, 38 bucks apiece, went thrru 7-8 plastic jugs of miricle whip, lots of old chicken from freezer, and on and on, spent over $300 bucks this last week or so. They come in and then we start shooting all the bigger ones, let the 150 lbers alone. Everybody here likes the bear meat aactually. We hunt grizzly bear religiously, now they need to be wiped out, but that's pretty tough to accomplish. We get a few every year. Kids carry guns to school bus stop for bear protection, grizzly walk out road every May, will kill kids quick. Not something you play around with. At end of hunting which usually only lasts a week or two, the bear follow my 4 wheeler trail to my house for a day or two; I put the Plotts on them, bear run off quick. Plotts came from Bavarian hounds, after a couple days they learn to stay away. Believe me, if you had the bear around your house I do, you'd be shooting every bear that you see also. Common sense. |
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Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Some die and leave their mark, some just a stain. - Les Claypool
Thanks for the homoerotic vision to start this thread. - elcope |
[#10]
What caliber do kids carry to school?
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Watch this space. In the meantime - be evil.
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Usually, several families build a school bus stop shelter so kids can get outta wind at minus 50; school is never cancelled, kids like school around here. So kid usually take ole military rifles, they are welll iked around here,nowadays has become SKS's, mosins, even wore out ARs. THey leave them at shelter for the walk home; nobody ever steals them; different world around here, just Whites & Indians, no crime. Guns are second nature in rural Alaska, kids are carrying guns at 7 or 8 years old. My neighbors boy is 8 and has a 357 revolver on his belt all the time, and he can shoot the pistol too. Like I said different world here and I couldn't live where most people call home, like a prison to me.
Every May, when grizzly walk our dirt road, if they see a kid they think food, why guns for bear protection are accepted. I have been at schools in rural Ak, where kids bring guns into school and they are put in wall locker for the day and given back when bus comes so the kids can walk to their house safely without getting ate by a bear. Nothing ever is said about fed laws, mostly not enforced in rural areas. If somebody ever started talking about it, people would tell them to feed their own kids to the grizzly bears, no joke and they would probably get the shit kicked outta them. Very tender subject around here when it comes to bear killing kids. Locals have always liked military guns, cheap. Old springfields, M1s, sks, on and on. Indans down river at FT YUkon killed a polar bear a couple years back with a .556 AR, strolling through their village . Bear walking roads, walking between cabins in villages is quite common. I once taught at a school where we had grizzly bear problems, village dogs always chasin bears outta village.Bears would look kids over on playground, we had a 338 in locked school office behind door, and had to run and get it several times, fire off a round, bear leaves, goes about his business. Local Indians often talk to bear, I myslef didn't like that crap, was ready to shoot them; bear are so unpredictable. Getting ate by bear got to be the worst way to go. Indians would claim that bear only ate White People, but that's complete bull. I've seen Indians treed by bear along the road, and have seen Indians that get to stuttering when around bear. We live in rural ALaska, Anch is different, but people get ate by bear there too. |
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[#12]
Fascinating thread, OP. May I ask what town or city you live near in AK? I'd just like to look it up on a map. I dream of visiting Alaska one day.
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"I admit, I was initially intimidated. In my head, the inside of a revolver has gears and pushrods and camshafts and, I don't know, steam manifolds and shit." -therex
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[#13]
All river villages pretty much the same, lots of bear everywhere. Follow the river, watch thta show on dir tv, Yukon Men, but it's really played up some too.
I usually tell people that if Alaska was for you, you'd be here already. We came here from Western Pa, near Pymatuning (do you know that lake) over 20 years back, haven't ever left. I guess that tells ya we're quite satisfied with our quality of life & surroundings. |
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[#14]
Didn't know you kill every bear you see. I guess if it works it works.
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What I should have said is we kill every bear we see around people. I wouldn't kill blk bear a few miles from anybody's cabins, but whenever they show up around houses, SOP is to just shoot them before they do some damage or kill somebody. Up at Lake George, near Delta Junction, a man was killed by a local bear they had seen for weeks, 150lb 3 year old.Man was out working on his dock, 75 feet from his cabin door and here comes the bear. It had never bothered the man before, man told his wife to go into cabin get gun just in case. He started yelling at bear and bear kept coming; then killed man. When state police showed up, the man's head was chewed off,laying by his leg. His wife claimed the bear tried breaking her cabin door down to get her too, but me thinks she just freaked. This happened in summer 2013, you can search it on Yahoo I believe.
The grizzly bear are really increasing in numbers and they decimate the moose population. get 85% of the moose calves every JUne. Rural people realize pretty quick you have to control the wolves & bear or you will never get a moose in the cache for winter meat. Wolf hides go for a few hundred, so everybody shoots them when they see them. Buggers are sharp, you don't get standing shots at wolves. I've had them in my garbage cans at 3 am in the morning, me hanging out window with flashlite on AR poppin off at them. I guess if we had less wolves & bear, we'd have more moose and caribou and that would be better for everybody. If they let the bears expand everywhere back east, there will be problems, people ate, and such. The balance of nature sounds real pretty, but not reality.. It's boom and bust with the land only producing 10% of the moose that it can sustain with management. In the end that means, no hunting for the hordes from the city if we feed it all to the wolves & bear; nobody wants that scenario. I'll post some more picts later this week. Probably kill a grizz by the end of the week if we hunt hard. I'd really like to get an 800 lber, few and far between. MOst our interior grizz go 400-500 lbs. hungry country up here. |
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[#18]
I really feel like that bear should see a urologist. Peeing that much blood can't be healthy.
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Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Some die and leave their mark, some just a stain. - Les Claypool
Thanks for the homoerotic vision to start this thread. - elcope |
[#19]
Awesome thread OP, thanks
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[#20]
Great thread. Thank you sir.
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I used to be stationed at Wainwright. One time we were at one of the training areas out by Greeley and a guy in my company woke up to a black bear dragging him out of his sleeping bag so I can understand the OP's sentiments. Not doing any hunting for the two years I was there is one of the biggest regrets of my life, but that's the way it is being a single soldier in the barracks. Beautiful country up there and a hunter's paradise. A lot of people I knew would complain about the winter's and the never setting summer sun but to me Alaska is just about the best place on Earth. I would love to move up there some day.
Zhurh, do you find that the taste of the bear meat declines once they have started feeding on the dying salmon? People used to tell me that the spring bears that have been feeding on berries taste a lot better than the late season bears. |
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[#23]
I bait and eat bear. I feed them popcorn and dog food with syrup mixed into it.
Bears taste like what they are eating so I only hunt in the spring before they get into salmon. I keep a very neat bait station. That much trash would drive me batshit crazy. |
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Scorpionmain: I came into this world screaming and covered in someone else’s blood. I would have no problem with going out the same way.
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[#24]
What do you do with the skulls? I have skull cleaning bugs and would love to have some bear skulls
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I wish I had more hands, so I could give that ass four thumbs down. - badfish274
Is that your Weiner? No homo but that's pretty impressive girth you got there. - DanTSX |
[#25]
Great pictures
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[#26]
Is the date and temperature in your cam pics accurate? Y'all got it made. Whats the cost for an out of state hunting license?
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Originally posted by DK-Prof: lol
Hotty Toddy!! |
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The GF is trekking to Montana soon, and will be hiking 6 miles in the National Forest w/ 3 kids, 1 other adult, and 2 x grandparents. Armament so far is a .357" Magnum revolver, a .44" Magnum revolver, & a .458" SOCOM AR. I have Winchester white box .44" Magnum 240 grn jacketed soft point available @ my LGS. Is that sufficient for bear if the .458" goes down, or should I be looking for heavier &/or solids?
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Thanks to HammerHammer for the Team Membership.
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Common Sense isn't as Common as Commonly Thought
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[#29]
great thread ...ya those dam ants ......
Originally Posted By TailHunter:
Fire Ants? Because that what we use here. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TailHunter:
Originally Posted By BoxofRox:
What do you do with the skulls? I have skull cleaning bugs and would love to have some bear skulls Fire Ants? Because that what we use here. |
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Originally Posted By 4719DAVE:
great thread ...ya those dam ants ...... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 4719DAVE:
great thread ...ya those dam ants ...... Originally Posted By TailHunter:
Originally Posted By BoxofRox:
What do you do with the skulls? I have skull cleaning bugs and would love to have some bear skulls Fire Ants? Because that what we use here. They work for anything, skulls, bones, shark jaws. |
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Common Sense isn't as Common as Commonly Thought
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[#31]
I love this thread great pics and info...I wish I could hunt bear like that just can't give up on what I started here...awesome work keep it up!!
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