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Posted: 12/30/2020 8:53:04 PM EDT
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Panasonic Eneloop
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Posted: 12/30/2020 9:00:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Panasonic Eneloop This |
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Posted: 12/30/2020 9:23:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Panasonic Eneloop These or the Amazon Hicap I have 3 of these EBL chargers, they work great. |
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Posted: 12/30/2020 9:30:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistorySo which of the amazon rechargeable batteries are the quality ones? A link to the ones that can be trusted would be appreciated. |
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Posted: 12/30/2020 10:27:55 PM EDT
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Anything made at the Fujitsu owned FDK plant, which makes Eneloops for Panasonic, since they divested themselves of the factory, technology and patents for the LSD NiMH chemistry.
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Posted: 12/31/2020 12:10:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Panasonic Eneloop Yup, charging some of the AA's now. |
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Posted: 12/31/2020 4:34:06 AM EDT
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Another vote for Eneloop batteries. Their regular ones last the best. Their high capacity ones may not last as long but when they are working well should have more capacity than the regular ones.
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Posted: 1/2/2021 6:55:04 PM EDT
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The IKEA Ladda batteries are supposed to be equivalent to the Eneloop Pro batteries, also made in that FDK plant in Japan.
They are available for $6.99/4-pack in both AA and AAA. |
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Posted: 1/2/2021 6:59:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The IKEA Ladda batteries are supposed to be equivalent to the Eneloop Pro batteries, also made in that FDK plant in Japan. They are available for $6.99/4-pack in both AA and AAA. Good batteries. |
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Posted: 1/3/2021 1:19:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The IKEA Ladda batteries are supposed to be equivalent to the Eneloop Pro batteries, also made in that FDK plant in Japan. They are available for $6.99/4-pack in both AA and AAA. @ecidious Where? Prices I'm seeing are closer to $3.50/cell for eneloop pros... under $2/cell sounds good. |
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Posted: 1/3/2021 9:31:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @ecidious Where? Prices I'm seeing are closer to $3.50/cell for eneloop pros... under $2/cell sounds good. https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/ladda-rechargeable-battery-70303876/ |
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Posted: 1/3/2021 7:49:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryAh, I misread his post. I thought he was saying the Eneloop Pros can be had for $6.99... |
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Posted: 1/3/2021 7:52:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Panasonic Eneloop |
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Posted: 1/3/2021 8:34:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ah, I misread his post. I thought he was saying the Eneloop Pros can be had for $6.99... Quote HistoryQuoted: Ah, I misread his post. I thought he was saying the Eneloop Pros can be had for $6.99... I’m done buying FDK (Fujitsu, or Panasonic) hi-caps— 2400mAh-2500mAh because they only last between 2, maybe 2.5 years before they’re toast and need to be recycled, or used in wall clocks or remotes. Just the nature of the beast. Hi-caps are fine if you need 20% more capacity here and now. Anywhere from $10 per quad to $13 per quad. Chris |
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Posted: 1/3/2021 11:52:48 PM EDT
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I’ve been keeping up with this thread and today had the chance to observe something.
I found my AA stash that I carry when traveling. I always charge them all before a trip. Among them are a set of white Eneloops that are about two years old, and a set of Harbor Freight NiMH that are about a year old They were all charged about three weeks ago. I wish I would have thought to check them with a multimeter before I put them on the charger. Lined them all up in my Maha charger. Not sure the model number but it holds eight AAs at a time and costs about $90. I always use the slow charge option. As the batteries began to charge, the little meter display was interesting. The Eneloops all showed about 3/4 of a charge remaining, while the HF batteries were around 1/4. My unscientific conclusion is that Eneloops live up to their claimed ability to hold a charge in storage. |
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Posted: 1/4/2021 9:47:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m done buying FDK (Fujitsu, or Panasonic) hi-caps— 2400mAh-2500mAh because they only last between 2, maybe 2.5 years before they’re toast and need to be recycled, or used in wall clocks or remotes. Just the nature of the beast. Hi-caps are fine if you need 20% more capacity here and now. Anywhere from $10 per quad to $13 per quad. Chris I was just going to say this. I've "tossed" several of the higher capacity batteries as they have really gone boots up faster than LSD batteries. I'm using my Pro's solely for some Baofeng radio battery adapters, however they just don't hold a charge and I get a much higher failure rate on some I purchased less than 10 years ago. ROCK6 |
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Posted: 1/4/2021 1:52:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve been keeping up with this thread and today had the chance to observe something. I found my AA stash that I carry when traveling. I always charge them all before a trip. Among them are a set of white Eneloops that are about two years old, and a set of Harbor Freight NiMH that are about a year old They were all charged about three weeks ago. I wish I would have thought to check them with a multimeter before I put them on the charger. Lined them all up in my Maha charger. Not sure the model number but it holds eight AAs at a time and costs about $90. I always use the slow charge option. As the batteries began to charge, the little meter display was interesting. The Eneloops all showed about 3/4 of a charge remaining, while the HF batteries were around 1/4. My unscientific conclusion is that Eneloops live up to their claimed ability to hold a charge in storage. Low self discharge (Eneloops) vs. high self discharge (HF). I did a one year test with three quality LSD brands: Eneloop Gen. 2 2000mAh AAs, GP ReCyKo 2150 mAh, and Imedion 2250 mAh AAs. After a year passed, the Enloops had lost 13+%, the GPs had lost 17+% and the Imedions had lost 31+%, which is still pretty good. Chris |
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Posted: 1/4/2021 8:20:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Low self discharge (Eneloops) vs. high self discharge (HF). I did a one year test with three quality LSD brands: Eneloop Gen. 2 2000mAh AAs, GP ReCyKo 2150 mAh, and Imedion 2250 mAh AAs. After a year passed, the Enloops had lost 13+%, the GPs had lost 17+% and the Imedions had lost 31+%, which is still pretty good. Chris Can you clarify? You did a 1 year self-discharge test and they lost that much charge after 1 year of controlled storage? Or you did a 1 year capacity test and after 1 year each had lost that much capacity? |
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Posted: 1/4/2021 10:31:44 PM EDT
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Eneloops, but my last few purchases have been ikea.
i can't tell a difference |
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Posted: 1/4/2021 11:07:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you clarify? You did a 1 year self-discharge test and they lost that much charge after 1 year of controlled storage? Or you did a 1 year capacity test and after 1 year each had lost that much capacity? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Low self discharge (Eneloops) vs. high self discharge (HF). I did a one year test with three quality LSD brands: Eneloop Gen. 2 2000mAh AAs, GP ReCyKo 2150 mAh, and Imedion 2250 mAh AAs. After a year passed, the Enloops had lost 13+%, the GPs had lost 17+% and the Imedions had lost 31+%, which is still pretty good. Chris Can you clarify? You did a 1 year self-discharge test and they lost that much charge after 1 year of controlled storage? Or you did a 1 year capacity test and after 1 year each had lost that much capacity? To clarify and I apologize for any confusion, they had lost that much in stored energy—after being charged to 100%. Chris |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 12:47:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To clarify and I apologize for any confusion, they had lost that much in stored energy—after being charged to 100%. Chris Thanks! I'm still rolling with eneloops in my important stuff but found out my wife has been using them in kids toys and then forgetting to take them out before taking toys to the thrift store when our kids outgrow them. I found a bubble machine in the trash a while back after she helped clean the garage. The power button got pressed and it was in there making noise. I dug it out and found 2 of my original white Eneloops from ~2007 in it.  There's no telling how many I've lost to her carelessness but I know I need more. I have loads of cheap NIMH batts for kids toys but she likes the Eneloops bc they last longer. And I think I'll be keeping my batts in a secret spot from now on. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 12:56:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 1:28:01 AM EDT
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Where do the rechargeable Lithium batteries fall in? Are they junk and should one stick with the Ikeas or Eneloop batteries?
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Posted: 1/5/2021 1:54:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where do the rechargeable Lithium batteries fall in? Are they junk and should one stick with the Ikeas or Eneloop batteries? They’re out there and have their place for AA/AAA apps, but I never felt the need to delve into them. They’re made by somewhat ‘unknown’ companies, so overall quality and longevity are somewhat ‘iffy, IMO.’ They do provide a flat discharge curve before crashing, but they’re mostly a ‘low drain’ power source. Chris |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 12:45:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks! I'm still rolling with eneloops in my important stuff but found out my wife has been using them in kids toys and then forgetting to take them out before taking toys to the thrift store when our kids outgrow them. I found a bubble machine in the trash a while back after she helped clean the garage. The power button got pressed and it was in there making noise. I dug it out and found 2 of my original white Eneloops from ~2007 in it. There's no telling how many I've lost to her carelessness but I know I need more. I have loads of cheap NIMH batts for kids toys but she likes the Eneloops bc they last longer. And I think I'll be keeping my batts in a secret spot from now on. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: To clarify and I apologize for any confusion, they had lost that much in stored energy—after being charged to 100%. Chris Thanks! I'm still rolling with eneloops in my important stuff but found out my wife has been using them in kids toys and then forgetting to take them out before taking toys to the thrift store when our kids outgrow them. I found a bubble machine in the trash a while back after she helped clean the garage. The power button got pressed and it was in there making noise. I dug it out and found 2 of my original white Eneloops from ~2007 in it. There's no telling how many I've lost to her carelessness but I know I need more. I have loads of cheap NIMH batts for kids toys but she likes the Eneloops bc they last longer. And I think I'll be keeping my batts in a secret spot from now on. I made a rule several years ago that ZERO kid toys were allowed to be given away or sold without my inspection. I know I still missed a few that slipped through the various purges but I managed to hold on to most of my eneloops. For super cheap toys that don’t draw much power, I keep Costco bulk packs of AA and AAA alkalines. Yes, I get a few leakers here and there but it beats having an equivalent inventory of eneloops. I’m sure I still have 60-80 spread around as is. At this point all of my stuff is eneloop or li-ion, with a few lithium disposables filling in some important niches here and there. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:32:40 AM EDT
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Anecdotal but, I have some Eneloop AA's that I know I bought pre 2010 that still work fine. Maybe they are 80% of the new level but still charge and hold a charge.
Every night my wife and I read to our boys. Usually 15-20 minutes. The way there rooms are there's nowhere for a lamp so we use headlamps. I am constantly charging AAA batteries. I had two of the Ikea batteries fail this week. They are much newer than the Eneloops. I will still buy more of the Ikea, because they're usually so cheaper, but when I see a slickdeals deal on Eneloops I get more. Tip. We have one of those little label maker machines, I try to put the date on all the rechargeables. I used to have 3 sets for my camera flash. Those I would label and charge in sets, to try to keep the number of charge cycles the same. |
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