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Posted: 7/6/2019 8:48:45 PM EDT
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ASUS is not particularly good, why stick with them?
You'll have a hard time lowering power without going to something like an Atom based computer. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 9:09:19 PM EDT
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Check out intel nucs
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Posted: 7/6/2019 10:56:26 PM EDT
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What are you going to use the PC for? I ask because there options like Arduino or Rasberry PI’s that use very little power. If you install Linux it can be a pretty capable machine for web surfing, email, some basic word processing capabilities. Rasberry Pi Model three runs less than 10 watts depending on accessories plugged into them. We use them for a number of things and although they are not FAST for basic web surfing and basic use they are just fine.
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Posted: 7/6/2019 11:35:52 PM EDT
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There are some (non-ASUS, unfortunately) small form factor desktops that use the Z-series Atom processors.
I use this one. It is very low power for a PC -- about 500 milliamps at 12V. It's at the bottom end of the performance curve as you might imagine, but I have these deployed off grid where solar is the only power option, and a five amp draw at 12V translates to nearly 1.5 KW/Hr per day -- I'd need about 350W of panels just to run the PC 24/7. With this mini PC, I only needed on 100W panel (and had plenty of power to spare for other things.) There are a few slightly higher quality mini PCs, but their power draw is about double this -- still way better than most PC/mobo combinations, though. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 11:46:51 PM EDT
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There are some (non-ASUS, unfortunately) small form factor desktops that use the Z-series Atom processors. I use this one. It is very low power for a PC -- about 500 milliamps at 12V. It's at the bottom end of the performance curve as you might imagine, but I have these deployed off grid where solar is the only power option, and a five amp draw at 12V translates to nearly 1.5 KW/Hr per day -- I'd need about 350W of panels just to run the PC 24/7. With this mini PC, I only needed on 100W panel (and had plenty of power to spare for other things.) There are a few slightly higher quality mini PCs, but their power draw is about double this -- still way better than most PC/mobo combinations, though. And more performance, approaching what I described above. But it is perfect for many low power aps. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 11:47:34 PM EDT
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What are you going to use the PC for? I ask because there options like Arduino or Rasberry PI’s that use very little power. If you install Linux it can be a pretty capable machine for web surfing, email, some basic word processing capabilities. Rasberry Pi Model three runs less than 10 watts depending on accessories plugged into them. We use them for a number of things and although they are not FAST for basic web surfing and basic use they are just fine. 2Hut8 |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 11:50:56 PM EDT
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ASUS is not particularly good, why stick with them? You'll have a hard time lowering power without going to something like an Atom based computer. Unless they have come out with a more powerful one since abt 2 years ago, need more like I described above. Don't think they have. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 11:54:06 PM EDT
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Check out intel nucs Nice innovation tho... |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 12:00:07 AM EDT
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ASUS is not particularly good, why stick with them? You'll have a hard time lowering power without going to something like an Atom based computer. |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 12:03:38 AM EDT
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I use this in my trailer.
Fanless Mini PC, 2GB/32GB Intel Atom x5-Z8350(2M Cache, up to 1.92 GHz),HD Graphics 400,4K/1000M LAN/2.4G+5.8G WIFI/BT4.0, Support  
That exact one has been discontinued but if you look at the related items there are a gob of options, personally I would recommend the 4/64 version, although the 2/32 version works quite well (ignore the reviews bitching about updates, they work fine) |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 2:41:42 PM EDT
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Get both a desktop and a laptop?
I am not sure how much more expensive low power desktop options are, but it might not be worth it in the end if the energy savings never outweigh the initial cost. You could always use the desktop when you need it and use the laptop the rest of the time. A fanless laptop with an ssd will be much more efficient than a desktop. |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 2:53:15 PM EDT
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Too integrated for what I'm looking for. Nice innovation tho... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Check out intel nucs Nice innovation tho... ETA: another good option is the Gigabyte BRIX, I used one similar to this for a HTPC for years (and it’s still running in that capacity): https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F293102574602 Other than possibly adding more storage it’s good to go as is for basic PC needs ETA 2: both of these options use a power brick (not sure if it’s 12v or higher like most laptop bricks) so you can at least stay DC instead of going DC > AC > DC and losing efficiency/gaining heat |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 2:56:56 PM EDT
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Too integrated for what I'm looking for. Nice innovation tho... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Check out intel nucs Nice innovation tho... These are one step above SOCs or system on a chip which is what raspberry pis are. |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 3:43:53 PM EDT
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I have a dedicated and quite compact PC 'station' in the trailer and mount the PC directly above the monitor.
Want to run WIN 7 as long as I can. Not interested in out of the mainstream linex, or other stuff. Want a small conventional PC with the ability to reconfigure/upgrade. Just need a recommendation of a low power Intel or Asus bd with capability about what I mentioned in first post, and using recent storage, USB 3, etc. We carry 2 laptops and the PC on travel. Use a cellular stick for internet with an [older and cheap and fine performing] Cradlepoint router to serve the trailer by wire and wireless to the tow vehicle. |
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Posted: 7/8/2019 12:36:29 AM EDT
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Why are you so set on upgradeability? You can get something cheaper, more compact and more power efficient if you can get around that requirement. I used to do the same thing and had a couple MiniITX systems but NUCs or similar sized systems really are the way to go and will be much cheaper used.
This PC that I do all my browsing from, downloading, hosting BlueIris, DHCP/DNS/etc is an Intel NUC7i5BNH with both a NVMe SSD and 2.5” HDD for storage, I have an Intel NUC5i5RYK as a 4K HTPC and a Lenovo M73 tiny for a second HTPC Another option I found on eBay is this If you really don’t like the form factor you could go with an mATX B450 chipset motherboard and a newer Intel i3 CPU (look for the T version for lower power consumption) but I strongly suggest against this route. I personally don’t care for Asus either, and Intel doesn’t make motherboards anymore, the closest you’ll come to an Intel manufactured motherboard today...is a NUC |
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Posted: 7/8/2019 11:54:27 AM EDT
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Intel compute stick is what you seek. I haven't played around with mine for a while, but some run win 10 and are supposed to be fairly useful. You plug it into the hdmi port on any tv or monitor and attach a wireless mouse/keyboard.
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Posted: 7/8/2019 3:22:05 PM EDT
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Intel compute stick is what you seek. I haven't played around with mine for a while, but some run win 10 and are supposed to be fairly useful. You plug it into the hdmi port on any tv or monitor and attach a wireless mouse/keyboard. https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51ZAV2F8bbL._SL1000_.jpg |
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Posted: 7/8/2019 9:35:52 PM EDT
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Why are you so set on upgradeability? You can get something cheaper, more compact and more power efficient if you can get around that requirement. I used to do the same thing and had a couple MiniITX systems but NUCs or similar sized systems really are the way to go and will be much cheaper used. This PC that I do all my browsing from, downloading, hosting BlueIris, DHCP/DNS/etc is an Intel NUC7i5BNH with both a NVMe SSD and 2.5” HDD for storage, I have an Intel NUC5i5RYK as a 4K HTPC and a Lenovo M73 tiny for a second HTPC Another option I found on eBay is this If you really don’t like the form factor you could go with an mATX B450 chipset motherboard and a newer Intel i3 CPU (look for the T version for lower power consumption) but I strongly suggest against this route. I personally don’t care for Asus either, and Intel doesn’t make motherboards anymore, the closest you’ll come to an Intel manufactured motherboard today...is a NUC Used to run mini-ITX's but last round of upgrades 2 years ago went with micro-ATX's Looks like the NUC might work OK, but it seems limited to WIN10. Just saw Classic Shell is now Open Shell. How is the volunteer support working out? |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 11:08:43 AM EDT
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Totally forgot those were still available. A compute stick would definitely be a much lower power and more compact option if they have enough processing power for your needs. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Intel compute stick is what you seek. I haven't played around with mine for a while, but some run win 10 and are supposed to be fairly useful. You plug it into the hdmi port on any tv or monitor and attach a wireless mouse/keyboard. https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51ZAV2F8bbL._SL1000_.jpg |
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Posted: 7/28/2019 12:53:05 PM EDT
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Old school tag cause I would so be playing in amazon warehouse looking at used netbooks or something.
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Posted: 7/28/2019 1:30:51 PM EDT
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Old school tag cause I would so be playing in amazon warehouse looking at used netbooks or something. |
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Posted: 7/28/2019 10:56:02 PM EDT
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W7 obsoletes in january....
chromebook and remote desktop to your pc at home? |
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Posted: 7/28/2019 11:51:33 PM EDT
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W7 obsoletes in january.... chromebook and remote desktop to your pc at home? |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 11:02:00 PM EDT
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Netbook is like a mini laptop, won't have cd drive built in it. This is what I sorta remember from 8 years ago so correct me where wrong folks.
Laptop for bigger keyboard I can sorta see. I have an old toughbook that needs a new battery or 2, it gets great battery life cause no cooling fan but it is slow poke on chomping info cause it has low power stuff to not need cooling fan. I have been using my smart phone and desktop lately. With work being silly I don't have much need for laptop and I have a tablet from amazon for inbetween stuffs like watching prime stuff. Once I get back to messing with things again the toughbook will either get upgraded to solid state hard drive and new operating system or I will buy a replacement that might be a net book. I have an external cd/dvd drive and what not so I can do whatever with whatever that way. |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 3:29:54 PM EDT
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For TRULY low power look at a Raspberry Pi. You can run a version of Windows 10 on it. The newer v4 Pi has 4GB of Ram available and is a bit faster. Win10 on v3 was pretty slow.
I have used several of the Intel Compute sticks over the years. Perfect when you need to run a simple PPT file as a Welcome Screen/Kiosk but make it stupid simple so the front desk receptionist can make changes. Unless you need a PCI slot I see no need for running any ITX board. Just buy a mini PC of some type, Atom processor, and go. Would a large screen tablet with an ext keyboard do the job? MS Surface? |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 4:07:48 PM EDT
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For TRULY low power look at a Raspberry Pi. You can run a version of Windows 10 on it. The newer v4 Pi has 4GB of Ram available and is a bit faster. Win10 on v3 was pretty slow. I have used several of the Intel Compute sticks over the years. Perfect when you need to run a simple PPT file as a Welcome Screen/Kiosk but make it stupid simple so the front desk receptionist can make changes. Unless you need a PCI slot I see no need for running any ITX board. Just buy a mini PC of some type, Atom processor, and go. Would a large screen tablet with an ext keyboard do the job? MS Surface? |
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