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Posted: 5/24/2023 11:38:07 AM EDT
[#1]
Sounds expensive.
 Congratulations!
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Posted: 5/24/2023 11:57:44 AM EDT
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Quoted: 11 months almost to the day. I should have it within a month according to Angel. WooHoo! Cool. Let us know how it all works out. I have never seen a LUX in person. Sure like my Mercury IIIs. I thought it was very pretty, until I saw a LUX, that thing is beautiful in the photo's. |
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Posted: 5/24/2023 12:01:55 PM EDT
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You are way more patient than me! I'd have bought the Acom 1200S for instant gratification
 When you put your order in did they require the $1200 deposit? |
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Posted: 5/24/2023 12:02:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds expensive. Congratulations!$4300 
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Posted: 5/24/2023 12:02:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are way more patient than me! I'd have bought the Acom 1200S for instant gratification When you put your order in did they require the $1200 deposit? Not to get on the list. I just paid the $1200. They will now start building it. I will pay the remainder once it is ready to ship. https://www.km3km.com/elementor-1915/ |
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Posted: 5/24/2023 12:05:52 PM EDT
[#6]
Lol, I would need an amp to get to the 30-50w input power.
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Posted: 5/24/2023 12:27:44 PM EDT
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For those interested, they will have a limited number of the MercuryATs go live on morning of the 27th. So if you want to get your hands on arguably one of the best tuners on the market...
https://www.km3km.com/product/mercuryat/ |
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Posted: 5/24/2023 12:41:18 PM EDT
[#8]
Awesome news about the amp!
 Quote HistoryQuoted: For those interested, they will have a limited number of the MercuryATs go live on morning of the 27th. So if you want to get your hands on arguably one of the best tuners on the market... https://www.km3km.com/product/mercuryat/ It does seem nice, but is not terribly wide in range. |
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Posted: 5/24/2023 12:51:04 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Awesome news about the amp! It does seem nice, but is not terribly wide in range. Quote HistoryQuoted: Awesome news about the amp! Quoted: For those interested, they will have a limited number of the MercuryATs go live on morning of the 27th. So if you want to get your hands on arguably one of the best tuners on the market... https://www.km3km.com/product/mercuryat/ It does seem nice, but is not terribly wide in range. None of my antennas are near 5:1 anyway. But the EFHW and EF are 2:1-ish in some bands. Bonus is the 3 antenna switch. |
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Posted: 5/24/2023 1:12:55 PM EDT
[#10]
I keep hoping they will improve the AT rating to 1500W, I'd be on it then.
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Posted: 5/24/2023 5:44:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I keep hoping they will improve the AT rating to 1500W, I'd be on it then. Rumors are circulating that there may be a Tuner coming to match with the LUX. Totally unsubstantiated, but if that happens, I would jump on it. 
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Posted: 5/24/2023 6:12:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rumors are circulating that there may be a Tuner coming to match with the LUX. Totally unsubstantiated, but if that happens, I would jump on it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I keep hoping they will improve the AT rating to 1500W, I'd be on it then. Rumors are circulating that there may be a Tuner coming to match with the LUX. Totally unsubstantiated, but if that happens, I would jump on it. Well, maybe I will wait then. Or inquire about the LUX matched tuner. |
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Posted: 5/24/2023 6:14:41 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, maybe I will wait then. Or inquire about the LUX matched tuner. Yeah, see what they say. They're pretty tight-lipped about that sort of thing, though. |
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Posted: 5/24/2023 6:17:31 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: For those interested, they will have a limited number of the MercuryATs go live on morning of the 27th. So if you want to get your hands on arguably one of the best tuners on the market... https://www.km3km.com/product/mercuryat/ Already have mine 
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Posted: 5/24/2023 8:25:14 PM EDT
[#15]
Congrats on the new amp!!!
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Posted: 5/24/2023 8:27:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Congrats on the new amp!!! I actually probably will not see it for 8-10 weeks...  I just read the receipt from the deposit. |
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Posted: 5/25/2023 6:40:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, see what they say. They're pretty tight-lipped about that sort of thing, though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well, maybe I will wait then. Or inquire about the LUX matched tuner. Yeah, see what they say. They're pretty tight-lipped about that sort of thing, though. A legal limit tuner is in design and testing, when it becomes available we will post it on our web site See you on the Air!!! Angel Ruiz N2PTB Welp.... I will be holding off on ordering a AT until the LUX tuner is ready. |
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Posted: 5/25/2023 7:22:19 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Welp.... I will be holding off on ordering a AT until the LUX tuner is ready. |
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Posted: 5/25/2023 9:54:15 AM EDT
[#19]
Sweet!
June 10 is my 1 year anniversary on the list. Merc3 is all I want and while I am still on the unsplit list if my memory serves me right I haven’t heard a thing yet. The Lux line moves faster (most stay with the M3 I think). I have the Pastar HF Auto. It has been balky lately. It fails to auto tune sometimes and needs a reboot at times. Several reboots last night and I couldn’t get the auto to work until I switched to an AM carrier when I normally do RTTY. It did start working but I am concerned. |
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Posted: 5/25/2023 3:18:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Welp.... I will be holding off on ordering a AT until the LUX tuner is ready. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Well, maybe I will wait then. Or inquire about the LUX matched tuner. Yeah, see what they say. They're pretty tight-lipped about that sort of thing, though. A legal limit tuner is in design and testing, when it becomes available we will post it on our web site See you on the Air!!! Angel Ruiz N2PTB Welp.... I will be holding off on ordering a AT until the LUX tuner is ready. Holy crap, that is official confirmation!!!  
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Posted: 5/25/2023 3:24:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Holy crap, that is official confirmation!!! https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-82tSdx9/4/a7c5ea8a/S/i-82tSdx9-S.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Well, maybe I will wait then. Or inquire about the LUX matched tuner. Yeah, see what they say. They're pretty tight-lipped about that sort of thing, though. A legal limit tuner is in design and testing, when it becomes available we will post it on our web site See you on the Air!!! Angel Ruiz N2PTB Welp.... I will be holding off on ordering a AT until the LUX tuner is ready. Holy crap, that is official confirmation!!! https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-82tSdx9/4/a7c5ea8a/S/i-82tSdx9-S.jpg  Yep. I imagine the cost to play will be just over $1k |
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Posted: 5/25/2023 3:32:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/4xkAAOSw4BVgJu6d/s-l500.jpg Yep. I imagine the cost to play will be just over $1k Maybe so. I hope they are less than a Palstar.  |
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Posted: 5/25/2023 3:57:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe so. I hope they are less than a Palstar. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/4xkAAOSw4BVgJu6d/s-l500.jpg Yep. I imagine the cost to play will be just over $1k Maybe so. I hope they are less than a Palstar. The 1200w AT is $800... The cannot charge much more. I bet it will come in at $1100-$1200 |
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Posted: 5/25/2023 4:10:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The 1200w AT is $800... The cannot charge much more. I bet it will come in at $1100-$1200 Here's hoping you are correct. I should be able to swing one, if so. I know Kenny came over from Cuba and became a US citizen, and is now running a very successful business. I think that is really cool. Any idea if Angel or any of the others are from Cuba? |
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Posted: 5/25/2023 4:32:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here's hoping you are correct. I should be able to swing one, if so. I know Kenny came over from Cuba and became a US citizen, and is now running a very successful business. I think that is really cool. Any idea if Angel or any of the others are from Cuba? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The 1200w AT is $800... The cannot charge much more. I bet it will come in at $1100-$1200 Here's hoping you are correct. I should be able to swing one, if so. I know Kenny came over from Cuba and became a US citizen, and is now running a very successful business. I think that is really cool. Any idea if Angel or any of the others are from Cuba? I am not sure. I know they are still doing everything out the his house though. |
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Posted: 5/25/2023 4:44:08 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I am not sure. I know they are still doing everything out the his house though. Looking at Angel's QRZ page, it seems he may be from NJ, or moved there as a child(?). Doing everything out of his house? Good way to keep costs down. |
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Posted: 5/25/2023 5:14:45 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looking at Angel's QRZ page, it seems he may be from NJ, or moved there as a child(?). Doing everything out of his house? Good way to keep costs down. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I am not sure. I know they are still doing everything out the his house though. Looking at Angel's QRZ page, it seems he may be from NJ, or moved there as a child(?). Doing everything out of his house? Good way to keep costs down. Especially in FL. Commercial/light industrial is not cheap down there. I have been looking. |
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Posted: 5/25/2023 6:40:10 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looking at Angel's QRZ page, it seems he may be from NJ, or moved there as a child(?). Doing everything out of his house? Good way to keep costs down. and explains the small production batches. If you want it faster then it will cost more for the needed expansion. You won’t get the same price point. It’s a boost to the hobbyist to keep the prices low. |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 2:38:54 PM EDT
[#29]
I emailed them and told them to put my name on the list for the new MercuryAT+
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Posted: 5/26/2023 6:22:29 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I emailed them and told them to put my name on the list for the new MercuryAT+ Did they respond? |
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Posted: 5/27/2023 3:17:23 PM EDT
[#31]
No list for the LUX tuner.
Hi, When ready and available we will sell it through our web store and not in a list…Thank You See you on the Air!!! Angel Ruiz N2PTB |
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Posted: 5/27/2023 4:12:11 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No list for the LUX tuner. 
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Posted: 5/27/2023 8:52:15 PM EDT
[#33]
Same reply I got. |
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Posted: 6/3/2023 1:18:15 AM EDT
[#34]
That Mercury shows it'll run 1200W on a 120V 20A circuit. The ACOM 1200S states that at less then 200V supply it drops to 500W output. And the two are priced about the same.
Probably won't be able to have much else on that 120V circuit if running the 1200W out, but at least it's an option. Although I guess when you start talking about costs of KW+ amps and their requisite tuners, a couple hundred bucks to drop a new circuit isn't even a concern. |
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Posted: 6/3/2023 7:48:30 AM EDT
[#35]
You are right, but it depends where the new circuit is going.
When all my equipment was on the second floor there was no easy, economical way to put 240 up there. But I was very happy with my KPA500. When everything moved to a rack in the basement it was trivial to add a 240 circuit. Well, almost trivial. With the service at the far end of the basement from the rack I had to drill a lot of floor joists to run the cable. But other than that, easy peasy. |
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Posted: 6/3/2023 7:57:59 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That Mercury shows it'll run 1200W on a 120V 20A circuit. The ACOM 1200S states that at less then 200V supply it drops to 500W output. And the two are priced about the same. Probably won't be able to have much else on that 120V circuit if running the 1200W out, but at least it's an option. Although I guess when you start talking about costs of KW+ amps and their requisite tuners, a couple hundred bucks to drop a new circuit isn't even a concern. Let's compare apples to apples. DXE has the 1000w Acom 1200S for $4199 (this may include shipping) The 1500w Mercury LUX is $4399 + shipping The 1200W Mercury IIIs is $2799 + shipping So, if you want a 1200w amp, the Mercury IIIs is $1400 less than the Acom 1200S. For $200 and shipping costs above the 1000w Acom 1200S, you can get a 1500w Mercury LUX. Edited to change the Acom wattage to 1000. |
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Posted: 6/3/2023 9:34:37 AM EDT
[#37]
A couple of other things to consider...
The Acom 1200S is a 1KW amp (the model number is a bit deceiving). But remember, there's only 1.8dB difference between 1KW and 1.5KW. Most important: you could have an Acom 1200S sitting on your desk in a week, as opposed to a year for the Lux. |
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Posted: 6/3/2023 1:41:25 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A couple of other things to consider... The Acom 1200S is a 1KW amp (the model number is a bit deceiving). But remember, there's only 1.8dB difference between 1KW and 1.5KW. Most important: you could have an Acom 1200S sitting on your desk in a week, as opposed to a year for the Lux. Oddly, DXE lists it as 1.2kw in the overview: https://www.dxengineering.com/parts/aom-1200s#overview Only when you click for more details does it claim 1000w. |
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Posted: 6/3/2023 7:48:14 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Let's compare apples to apples. DXE has the 1000w Acom 1200S for $4199 (this may include shipping) The 1500w Mercury LUX is $4399 + shipping The 1200W Mercury IIIs is $2799 + shipping So, if you want a 1200w amp, the Mercury IIIs is $1400 less than the Acom 1200S. For $200 and shipping costs above the 1000w Acom 1200S, you can get a 1500w Mercury LUX. Edited to change the Acom wattage to 1000. Well hell. Now you got me thinking about a Mercury IIIs and matching Mercury AT. When I was on the web page I saw the discontinued part under the IIIs but didn't realize that was just for the parts kit model. So $3600 for the whole shebang. And only have a 1db difference from the 1500W model. But my other hobby, scuba diving, is calling for a drysuit and a sidemount setup in the more nearer future. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 6:32:37 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well hell. Now you got me thinking about a Mercury IIIs and matching Mercury AT. When I was on the web page I saw the discontinued part under the IIIs but didn't realize that was just for the parts kit model. So $3600 for the whole shebang. And only have a 1db difference from the 1500W model. But my other hobby, scuba diving, is calling for a drysuit and a sidemount setup in the more nearer future. The bad news is that there are no Mercury amps "in stock"; they are all built to order. The good news is that you can order a Mercury IIIs today, which really means being put on the waiting list. It costs $0 to get onto the waiting list. The waiting list is so big that it takes the better part of a year before your turn will come up. When it does, if you want to go forward they require a $1200 deposit and then they will build and test your amp. This takes several weeks. When your amp is ready, they will ask for the rest of the $ and ship the amp to you. So, you have about a year for your wallet to recover from the scuba purchases before you would have to shell out for the amp. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 11:00:58 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A couple of other things to consider... The Acom 1200S is a 1KW amp (the model number is a bit deceiving). But remember, there's only 1.8dB difference between 1KW and 1.5KW. Most important: you could have an Acom 1200S sitting on your desk in a week, as opposed to a year for the Lux. Yea, I could have bought an Acom at an estate sale last year but was already on the Merc3 list. I really wasn’t in to another tube amp. I just don’t have faith in long term production of tubes. I have an 811H and I’ll sell it off to a local club member when I am ready. It’s working so far though. One reason why I didn’t feel compelled to buy the Acom right in front of me. An Alpha or Elecraft and maybe I would have jumped. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 11:09:55 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yea, I could have bought an Acom at an estate sale last year but was already on the Merc3 list. I really wasn’t in to another tube amp. I just don’t have faith in long term production of tubes. I have an 811H and I’ll sell it off to a local club member when I am ready. It’s working so far though. One reason why I didn’t feel compelled to buy the Acom right in front of me. An Alpha or Elecraft and maybe I would have jumped. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 11:46:06 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not sure if you are talking about a different Acom, but the 1200s is a solid-state amp. yea I think the one they had was Svetlana tubes. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 12:53:14 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No list for the LUX tuner.
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Posted: 6/12/2023 5:46:27 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: MercuryAT is on sale for $739 Maybe the LuxAT is not too far off. I keep searching for a MFJ-998 deal but no luck so maybe that's a sign to wait. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No list for the LUX tuner. MFJ-998 is $639.95 at HRO. That's only a tad more than I paid in 2021. The MFJ seems to work reasonably well, but I do struggle with it sometimes when using higher power. That may be entirely due to my limited competence and experience, I'm not sure. When the matching tuner for the LUX shows up, I will have a difficult time not buying one unless there is something about the specifications or price that I find unacceptable. I think that the Mercury products have excellent build and design quality, so it might be nicer to use than the MFJ. |
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Posted: 6/19/2023 9:01:27 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The bad news is that there are no Mercury amps "in stock"; they are all built to order. The good news is that you can order a Mercury IIIs today, which really means being put on the waiting list. It costs $0 to get onto the waiting list. The waiting list is so big that it takes the better part of a year before your turn will come up. When it does, if you want to go forward they require a $1200 deposit and then they will build and test your amp. This takes several weeks. When your amp is ready, they will ask for the rest of the $ and ship the amp to you. So, you have about a year for your wallet to recover from the scuba purchases before you would have to shell out for the amp. Not helping.
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