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Posted: 10/26/2021 5:50:41 PM EDT
I'm going to buy the kit to add the third function to the Ansung loader on my Kubota L3901. I want to buy a grapple or some sort of articulated bucket.
The purpose will be to clear and remove brush on my property. My typical vegetation is pines, sweet gum, blackberries, and random overgrown areas. I would like to use this in clear some new roads and clean up around my pond, and pile the debris to be burned. What is your preferred grapple/bucket? Is the Everything Attachments product the gold standard? Should I go back to my dealer and buy a Land Pride? Looking for a quality tool, but I would like to be cost conscious if possible. Help me spend money! |
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[#1]
55 inch ea root rake is what you seek. Had one for 3 years and can't say enough good stuff about it and the company
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[#3]
Quoted: 55 inch ea root rake is what you seek. Had one for 3 years and can't say enough good stuff about it and the company View Quote +1, but I've had mine a little over two years. For clearing brush and grabbing piles of pliable debris, it's an outstanding tool. ETA: I use mine on a Kubota B2650. |
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I have and would definitely go with Everything Attachments. Mine is solid and I have beat the snot out of it.
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[#5]
Everything Attachments here also. 66 wicked long bottom tine and double lid.
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[#6]
Any first hand dealings with Eterra?
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[#7]
EE is what I see recommended on the homesteading and permaculture groups.
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[#9]
Quoted: If you ever think you'll need to pick up something heavy, choose a smaller grapple. For every lb of grapple = one lb. less of FEL lift. For big tractors, this is less of a concern. The smaller the tractor, the bigger the issue. Your L3901 has the LA525 FEL so that means you have about 1200 lbs to play with. I originally wanted a 60" grapple; when I got to the supplier however (Skid Steer Attachment Depot, Hsv), they were out of 60's and only had 48", 72" and 84". I knew I didn't want the 72" (weight) so I got the 48". It also helped that it was on sale for $700 or so. It will lift and move heavy loads like this: https://i.imgur.com/by4gi2I.jpg But also brush and misc stuff as well. This is from a Red Oak that fell on my property a month or so ago. That brush pile is probably double that size now. Every bit of it was picked up by the tractor and moved to the pile. So the 48" is just fine for handling brush as well. https://i.imgur.com/WlAJydy.jpg The bottom line: In the over five years I've owned this grapple, I have never regretted it's 48" width. There's been tons of times where it wouldn't have worked - at all - if it had been any wider and heavier. At the time, I really really wanted the EA Wicked, but it was over three times the cost and I couldn't justify it. BTW, if you do decide on the EA Wicked and order now, you should have it by next spring. Good luck! View Quote Thanks for the recommendation. I also really like EA's stuff and I think they're a great company. They're relatively local to me, as well. But I can't justify paying over $5K for a grapple to put on an $8K skid steer. The one you got, how thick is the steel they use? Does it look to be pretty decently welded? Have you had any issues with tines bending or welds breaking? |
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[#10]
I have an L3800 and an MTL grapple on her.
I use it beyond the tractors capability regularly (moved literally tons of rock and veritable mountains of trees and brush) The grapple seems to be indestructible. It's bit heavier than EA's lightest, but it is stout. https://www.mtlattachments.com/attachments/mtl-48-skid-steer-root-grapple-bucket-attachment ETA: it even does dainty work... like taking the trash cans down the drive |
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I bought this recently, works great as a grapple but also digging out stumps and rocks. It being in the center I don't worry about it tweaking the loader as much either. I have it on a JD 5300.
https://primeattach.com/products/stump-bucket-grapple/#video-module |
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Quoted: Thanks for the recommendation. I also really like EA's stuff and I think they're a great company. They're relatively local to me, as well. But I can't justify paying over $5K for a grapple to put on an $8K skid steer. The one you got, how thick is the steel they use? Does it look to be pretty decently welded? Have you had any issues with tines bending or welds breaking? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: If you ever think you'll need to pick up something heavy, choose a smaller grapple. For every lb of grapple = one lb. less of FEL lift. For big tractors, this is less of a concern. The smaller the tractor, the bigger the issue. Your L3901 has the LA525 FEL so that means you have about 1200 lbs to play with. I originally wanted a 60" grapple; when I got to the supplier however (Skid Steer Attachment Depot, Hsv), they were out of 60's and only had 48", 72" and 84". I knew I didn't want the 72" (weight) so I got the 48". It also helped that it was on sale for $700 or so. It will lift and move heavy loads like this: https://i.imgur.com/by4gi2I.jpg But also brush and misc stuff as well. This is from a Red Oak that fell on my property a month or so ago. That brush pile is probably double that size now. Every bit of it was picked up by the tractor and moved to the pile. So the 48" is just fine for handling brush as well. https://i.imgur.com/WlAJydy.jpg The bottom line: In the over five years I've owned this grapple, I have never regretted it's 48" width. There's been tons of times where it wouldn't have worked - at all - if it had been any wider and heavier. At the time, I really really wanted the EA Wicked, but it was over three times the cost and I couldn't justify it. BTW, if you do decide on the EA Wicked and order now, you should have it by next spring. Good luck! Thanks for the recommendation. I also really like EA's stuff and I think they're a great company. They're relatively local to me, as well. But I can't justify paying over $5K for a grapple to put on an $8K skid steer. The one you got, how thick is the steel they use? Does it look to be pretty decently welded? Have you had any issues with tines bending or welds breaking? To whit: As delivered; note - unlike I did when I bought it - the underbite between the upper and lower jaws: Fixed it: The other problem was the lousyly designed upper cylinder mount: Fix: No pics of it nicely painted - sorry! |
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I have an Armstrong that I bought with the tractor from the kubota dealer. I’ve beat on it pretty good. It’s TOUGH. It handles brush, trees, and rocks well. Back dragging with the top times down make great seed rows too.. Attached File
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[#14]
Quoted: Funny you should mention that: I've made two mods to my grapple, I didn't like the "underbite" of the upper jaw and the other a failure of design. To whit: As delivered; note - unlike I did when I bought it - the underbite between the upper and lower jaws: https://i.imgur.com/VPM4Y2P.jpg Fixed it: https://i.imgur.com/DheGqw9.jpg https://i.imgur.com/kVu3G2i.jpg The other problem was the lousyly designed upper cylinder mount: https://i.imgur.com/1QYFWUR.jpg https://i.imgur.com/XKeF0DC.jpg Fix: https://i.imgur.com/5C3sAAq.jpg https://i.imgur.com/E5DUZDH.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Wk3n47C.jpg No pics of it nicely painted - sorry! View Quote I recognize those pictures from when you did your write up on extending the underbite. Thanks! |
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You have approx 1000 lbs of lift use it wisely.
The ea wicked 55 is 238lbs wet. It's more expensive but it's stout and my L2501 can't break it. |
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Quoted: If you ever think you'll need to pick up something heavy, choose a smaller grapple. For every lb of grapple = one lb. less of FEL lift. For big tractors, this is less of a concern. The smaller the tractor, the bigger the issue. Your L3901 has the LA525 FEL so that means you have about 1200 lbs to play with. I originally wanted a 60" grapple; when I got to the supplier however (Skid Steer Attachment Depot, Hsv), they were out of 60's and only had 48", 72" and 84". I knew I didn't want the 72" (weight) so I got the 48". It also helped that it was on sale for $700 or so. It will lift and move heavy loads like this: https://i.imgur.com/by4gi2I.jpg But also brush and misc stuff as well. This is from a Red Oak that fell on my property a month or so ago. That brush pile is probably double that size now. Every bit of it was picked up by the tractor and moved to the pile. So the 48" is just fine for handling brush as well. https://i.imgur.com/WlAJydy.jpg The bottom line: In the over five years I've owned this grapple, I have never regretted it's 48" width. There's been tons of times where it wouldn't have worked - at all - if it had been any wider and heavier. At the time, I really really wanted the EA Wicked, but it was over three times the cost and I couldn't justify it. BTW, if you do decide on the EA Wicked and order now, you should have it by next spring. Good luck! View Quote This thread has helped a lot. Thank you to everyone that contributed. I do not want to wait the 6 months lead time for the EA grapple. Now that I've seen what's out there for less (sometimes half) the price I think I'm looking another direction. The suggestion to get a 48 inch grapple instead of 60 or 72 has changed my direction entirely. The lower weight and tighter maneuverability has swayed me. I'm looking very hard at MTL and Skid Steer Attachment Depot. They seem to sell the same grapple with different stickers for about the same price. I'm going to call both today to confirm shipping to my door. Once again, ARF.com has been a huge help. Thank you!! |
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I'm new to tractoring (tractor is still on order, actually), but did a bunch of grapple research recently so thought I'd share my learnings and decision if it helps...
I have an L4701 on order. Looked hard at EA (everyone seems to love them, other than the wait times). I decided I didn't want to wait that long, and also don't expect to need something as burly as they make...considered the Land Pride grapples as well. Similar to mentioned here, I went with a smaller grapple (55") over the wider for weight considerations, and it's cheaper -- the tine width may also change based on grapple width (it did on mine, as the 55" and 60" versions have the same # of tines). Based on all I've read, it will do all that I need, and make the tractor more nimble with it on while working in the woods. I ordered the pinnacle root grapple from Homestead Implements. If they hit their expected ship date, it will be about 8 weeks from order to delivery. A bit cheaper than EA, and I like that it can stand up on its own for storage. It's 302 lbs, so heavier than the EA, but still a lot lighter than many of the options out there. Obviously I don't have it/haven't used it yet, so we'll see how my decision turned out, but thought I'd share/throw another option out there to look at. |
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I ordered a 48" single cyl. grapple from MTL and a set of pallet forks. The grapple is the same one pictured above holding a tree trunk. I also ordered a third function kit from Summit Hydraulics. I ended up with MTL because shipping was lower than Skid Steer Attachments. Their products appear to be the same thing with a different sticker on top.
We'll see what arrives next week... |
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Quoted: I ordered a 48" single cyl. grapple from MTL and a set of pallet forks. The grapple is the same one pictured above holding a tree trunk. I also ordered a third function kit from Summit Hydraulics. I ended up with MTL because shipping was lower than Skid Steer Attachments. Their products appear to be the same thing with a different sticker on top. We'll see what arrives next week... View Quote Nice. That's the exact combo I've been using. Summit are good folks too. |
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Quoted: The suggestion to get a 48 inch grapple instead of 60 or 72 has changed my direction entirely. View Quote I agree. I'm looking for one for my new skid steer, and had not even considered that 48" ones were made. It has definitely caused me to reconsider the entire question, and I have come to the same conclusion. Thanks, Merlin! |
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Quoted: I ordered a 48" single cyl. grapple from MTL and a set of pallet forks. The grapple is the same one pictured above holding a tree trunk. I also ordered a third function kit from Summit Hydraulics. I ended up with MTL because shipping was lower than Skid Steer Attachments. Their products appear to be the same thing with a different sticker on top. We'll see what arrives next week... View Quote https://www.mtlattachments.com/attachments/mtl-48-skid-steer-root-grapple-bucket-attachment Read the fine print: "1/2" Pioneer style AG Couplers" Call and check, if you haven't already and ensure they fit your 3rd function connectors. Most grapples and 3rd function FEL implements come with the 1/2" Flat Face connectors. These are typically seen on virtually every skid steer out there. The Skid Steer Attachment Depot versions come with the 1/2" FF connectors. MTLs other grapples come with either connectors, so I *assume* you can call them and they'll put the correct ones if they haven't already. What size connectors do I have? Click "Connector Profile" for .pdf |
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Quoted: I agree. I'm looking for one for my new skid steer, and had not even considered that 48" ones were made. It has definitely caused me to reconsider the entire question, and I have come to the same conclusion. Thanks, Merlin! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The suggestion to get a 48 inch grapple instead of 60 or 72 has changed my direction entirely. I agree. I'm looking for one for my new skid steer, and had not even considered that 48" ones were made. It has definitely caused me to reconsider the entire question, and I have come to the same conclusion. Thanks, Merlin! |
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Quoted: If this is the one you got: https://www.mtlattachments.com/attachments/mtl-48-skid-steer-root-grapple-bucket-attachment Read the fine print: "1/2" Pioneer style AG Couplers" Call and check, if you haven't already and ensure they fit your 3rd function connectors. Most grapples and 3rd function FEL implements come with the 1/2" Flat Face connectors. These are typically seen on virtually every skid steer out there. The Skid Steer Attachment Depot versions come with the 1/2" FF connectors. MTLs other grapples come with either connectors, so I *assume* you can call them and they'll put the correct ones if they haven't already. What size connectors do I have? Click "Connector Profile" for .pdf View Quote I called them and they gave me instructions on what to put in my order request to be sure I got the right connectors. Yes, the Summit kit has Pioneer AG couplers, and they are going to swap the flat face for the Pioneer. Thanks for the heads up, but I did check that before I placed my order. |
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Quoted: Funny you should mention that: I've made two mods to my grapple, I didn't like the "underbite" of the upper jaw and the other a failure of design. To whit: As delivered; note - unlike I did when I bought it - the underbite between the upper and lower jaws: https://i.imgur.com/VPM4Y2P.jpg Fixed it: https://i.imgur.com/DheGqw9.jpg https://i.imgur.com/kVu3G2i.jpg The other problem was the lousyly designed upper cylinder mount: https://i.imgur.com/1QYFWUR.jpg https://i.imgur.com/XKeF0DC.jpg Fix: https://i.imgur.com/5C3sAAq.jpg https://i.imgur.com/E5DUZDH.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Wk3n47C.jpg No pics of it nicely painted - sorry! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you ever think you'll need to pick up something heavy, choose a smaller grapple. For every lb of grapple = one lb. less of FEL lift. For big tractors, this is less of a concern. The smaller the tractor, the bigger the issue. Your L3901 has the LA525 FEL so that means you have about 1200 lbs to play with. I originally wanted a 60" grapple; when I got to the supplier however (Skid Steer Attachment Depot, Hsv), they were out of 60's and only had 48", 72" and 84". I knew I didn't want the 72" (weight) so I got the 48". It also helped that it was on sale for $700 or so. It will lift and move heavy loads like this: https://i.imgur.com/by4gi2I.jpg But also brush and misc stuff as well. This is from a Red Oak that fell on my property a month or so ago. That brush pile is probably double that size now. Every bit of it was picked up by the tractor and moved to the pile. So the 48" is just fine for handling brush as well. https://i.imgur.com/WlAJydy.jpg The bottom line: In the over five years I've owned this grapple, I have never regretted it's 48" width. There's been tons of times where it wouldn't have worked - at all - if it had been any wider and heavier. At the time, I really really wanted the EA Wicked, but it was over three times the cost and I couldn't justify it. BTW, if you do decide on the EA Wicked and order now, you should have it by next spring. Good luck! Thanks for the recommendation. I also really like EA's stuff and I think they're a great company. They're relatively local to me, as well. But I can't justify paying over $5K for a grapple to put on an $8K skid steer. The one you got, how thick is the steel they use? Does it look to be pretty decently welded? Have you had any issues with tines bending or welds breaking? To whit: As delivered; note - unlike I did when I bought it - the underbite between the upper and lower jaws: https://i.imgur.com/VPM4Y2P.jpg Fixed it: https://i.imgur.com/DheGqw9.jpg https://i.imgur.com/kVu3G2i.jpg The other problem was the lousyly designed upper cylinder mount: https://i.imgur.com/1QYFWUR.jpg https://i.imgur.com/XKeF0DC.jpg Fix: https://i.imgur.com/5C3sAAq.jpg https://i.imgur.com/E5DUZDH.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Wk3n47C.jpg No pics of it nicely painted - sorry! I'm totally stealing your idea. My grapple also has the same underbite that yours did and it's a PITA more often than not. |
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Quoted: If you ever think you'll need to pick up something heavy, choose a smaller grapple. For every lb of grapple = one lb. less of FEL lift. For big tractors, this is less of a concern. The smaller the tractor, the bigger the issue. Your L3901 has the LA525 FEL so that means you have about 1200 lbs to play with. I originally wanted a 60" grapple; when I got to the supplier however (Skid Steer Attachment Depot, Hsv), they were out of 60's and only had 48", 72" and 84". I knew I didn't want the 72" (weight) so I got the 48". It also helped that it was on sale for $700 or so. It will lift and move heavy loads like this: https://i.imgur.com/by4gi2I.jpg But also brush and misc stuff as well. This is from a Red Oak that fell on my property a month or so ago. That brush pile is probably double that size now. Every bit of it was picked up by the tractor and moved to the pile. So the 48" is just fine for handling brush as well. https://i.imgur.com/WlAJydy.jpg The bottom line: In the over five years I've owned this grapple, I have never regretted it's 48" width. There's been tons of times where it wouldn't have worked - at all - if it had been any wider and heavier. At the time, I really really wanted the EA Wicked, but it was over three times the cost and I couldn't justify it. BTW, if you do decide on the EA Wicked and order now, you should have it by next spring. Good luck! View Quote only down side of smaller grapple is you can't carry as much stuff like rocks or firewood pcs. Always a trade off. I would add that if OP is going to use his grapple in the woods for any kind of log moving get one that can grab the log by the end in addition to by the side. I have seen some grapple that have one top jaw and 2 bottom jaws that prevent grabbing by the end. |
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I have absolutely abused my EA grapple. They are very well made
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Quoted: I'm totally stealing your idea. My grapple also has the same underbite that yours did and it's a PITA more often than not. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you ever think you'll need to pick up something heavy, choose a smaller grapple. For every lb of grapple = one lb. less of FEL lift. For big tractors, this is less of a concern. The smaller the tractor, the bigger the issue. Your L3901 has the LA525 FEL so that means you have about 1200 lbs to play with. I originally wanted a 60" grapple; when I got to the supplier however (Skid Steer Attachment Depot, Hsv), they were out of 60's and only had 48", 72" and 84". I knew I didn't want the 72" (weight) so I got the 48". It also helped that it was on sale for $700 or so. It will lift and move heavy loads like this: https://i.imgur.com/by4gi2I.jpg But also brush and misc stuff as well. This is from a Red Oak that fell on my property a month or so ago. That brush pile is probably double that size now. Every bit of it was picked up by the tractor and moved to the pile. So the 48" is just fine for handling brush as well. https://i.imgur.com/WlAJydy.jpg The bottom line: In the over five years I've owned this grapple, I have never regretted it's 48" width. There's been tons of times where it wouldn't have worked - at all - if it had been any wider and heavier. At the time, I really really wanted the EA Wicked, but it was over three times the cost and I couldn't justify it. BTW, if you do decide on the EA Wicked and order now, you should have it by next spring. Good luck! Thanks for the recommendation. I also really like EA's stuff and I think they're a great company. They're relatively local to me, as well. But I can't justify paying over $5K for a grapple to put on an $8K skid steer. The one you got, how thick is the steel they use? Does it look to be pretty decently welded? Have you had any issues with tines bending or welds breaking? To whit: As delivered; note - unlike I did when I bought it - the underbite between the upper and lower jaws: https://i.imgur.com/VPM4Y2P.jpg Fixed it: https://i.imgur.com/DheGqw9.jpg https://i.imgur.com/kVu3G2i.jpg The other problem was the lousyly designed upper cylinder mount: https://i.imgur.com/1QYFWUR.jpg https://i.imgur.com/XKeF0DC.jpg Fix: https://i.imgur.com/5C3sAAq.jpg https://i.imgur.com/E5DUZDH.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Wk3n47C.jpg No pics of it nicely painted - sorry! I'm totally stealing your idea. My grapple also has the same underbite that yours did and it's a PITA more often than not. https://www.jflf.org/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=METAL |
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Quoted: [snip] Mast grapple bucket. This thing is built like a damn tank. TN60A with wheel weights (200lbs a side) and about a 800lb ballast box behind it, even then a full scoop plus the bucket will take the back tires off the ground. View Quote Having weight at and behind the rear wheels of FEL-tractor simply cannot be overstated. As I've often stated over on TBN (before they kicked me off, LGB!): If your 3ph can lift your FEL counterweight - it's not heavy enough. Tongue in cheek obviously, but hopefully gets the point across. |
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[#31]
Quoted: Good point about weight at the other end of the tractor. IN most cases the limiting factor in FEL lift capacity is not the FEL, but the weight at and behind the rear wheels. Having weight at and behind the rear wheels of FEL-tractor simply cannot be overstated. As I've often stated over on TBN (before they kicked me off, LGB!): If your 3ph can lift your FEL counterweight - it's not heavy enough. Tongue in cheek obviously, but hopefully gets the point across. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: [snip] Mast grapple bucket. This thing is built like a damn tank. TN60A with wheel weights (200lbs a side) and about a 800lb ballast box behind it, even then a full scoop plus the bucket will take the back tires off the ground. Having weight at and behind the rear wheels of FEL-tractor simply cannot be overstated. As I've often stated over on TBN (before they kicked me off, LGB!): If your 3ph can lift your FEL counterweight - it's not heavy enough. Tongue in cheek obviously, but hopefully gets the point across. We dedicated that tractor to moving manure now. So it’s going to get loaded tires on top of the wheel weights and counter weight. We could certainly use a bigger weight box. It’s just a tiny pallet forks.com class 2 box. The 3pt hitch can lift over 1500lbs. But between wheel weights, the counter weight and loaded tires, we’ll max out the lifting capacity of the tractor before anything else. We’re basically right there anyways. |
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[#32]
I have an EE on my Kubota B2601. It's awesome. They save lot's of time and body aches.
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