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Posted: 10/20/2019 9:25:38 PM EDT
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Short answer yes...and on the dogs too
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Posted: 10/20/2019 9:27:21 PM EDT
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I can say Amox is Amox, whether or not a fish is on the bottle.
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Posted: 10/20/2019 9:34:04 PM EDT
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We aren’t allowed to discuss anything that could be considered remotely illegal or frowned upon by anyone, anywhere, anytime. For example, they shut down a thread about diesel Truck owners getting their epa bullshit “re-flashed and deleted”
But if you were to take the time to learn about it, “fish meds” are usually the same chemicals, made by the same labs as any other, meds. You might be able to find some old threads or posts on other forums. |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 9:51:53 PM EDT
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Definitely doing diligence, medicine has always been an interest in mine and decently conversant in it. Most lawyers are people who wanted to go to med school but couldn't get in.
Had a decent idea on it all already, just curious on experience and will leave it at that then. |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 9:52:45 PM EDT
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We aren’t allowed to discuss anything that could be considered remotely illegal or frowned upon by anyone, anywhere, anytime. |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 10:11:41 PM EDT
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Many times with success.
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Posted: 10/20/2019 10:17:22 PM EDT
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Many times with success. |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 10:24:53 PM EDT
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My wife is in the medical field. She rolls her eyes, but confirms that the Amoxicillin and other AB's I purchase for our goldfish in an EOTWAWKI scenario are exactly the same pills, made by the same manufacturers as the ones she gives patients.
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Posted: 10/20/2019 11:20:58 PM EDT
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When my goldfish came down with strep & could not miss work,I put him on a 10 day course of amox. He was feelin better within 2 days.
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Posted: 10/20/2019 11:35:21 PM EDT
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Yeah they are sold for birds too, just not for mammals without a prescription.
I won’t get specific but I have a relative who is retired doctor. It came up in conversation one day, my kids had a pet rat that needed antibiotics for an issue. I told him I wasn’t going to pay for a vet so I did the math on dosage and bought some bird antibiotics. He confirmed what I did was exactly the medically correct thing to do. I always keep that in mind for emergencies. |
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Posted: 10/21/2019 1:24:16 AM EDT
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For the dog, yes. Dog got better and still alive years later.
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Posted: 10/21/2019 9:36:22 AM EDT
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One of my larger goldfishes gets sinus infections a couple times a year. The Doxycycline works really good on "Goldie"- usually give him a loading dose of two 100mg capsules the first day, then 1 per day for 5-7 days after and it always works.
My human doctor gave me some Doxy same mg one time, the pills looked and were marked identical. |
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Posted: 10/21/2019 9:43:42 AM EDT
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Yes. Make sure you know what you're doing.
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Posted: 10/21/2019 11:07:43 AM EDT
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When dosing goldfish, make sure that you take dosing instructions from a medical professional and use as directed. DO NOT stop a course of antibiotics in the middle because your goldfish feels better.
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Posted: 10/21/2019 6:42:43 PM EDT
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Yes. They worked just like the "other' capsules.
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Posted: 10/23/2019 2:48:19 PM EDT
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My wife is in the medical field. She rolls her eyes, but confirms that the Amoxicillin and other AB's I purchase for our goldfish in an EOTWAWKI scenario are exactly the same pills, made by the same manufacturers as the ones she gives patients. |
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Posted: 10/23/2019 3:03:37 PM EDT
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The fish pills are often labeled the exact same way as their prescription based counter parts. IOW both sets often look exactly the same - stamped and shaped the same, etc. |
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Posted: 10/23/2019 3:57:40 PM EDT
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Yes. As with above posters, I've used them for both myself and the dog, as well as a ferret.
Fish and bird meds aren't shoddy like some livestock meds, because these animals are VERY fragile. Their medication uses the same compounds, and the same quality, as that marketed for humans. |
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Posted: 10/23/2019 4:11:30 PM EDT
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Many times with success. |
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Posted: 10/24/2019 8:08:04 AM EDT
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On some the bottle are marked with USP drug classification, which my pharmacist wife tells me was the last thing she was looking for to approve it for our "goldfish"
edit: she has some fancy $600 app on her phone and years of training for dosages and correct use, otherwise I probably wouldn't do it. |
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Posted: 10/24/2019 8:18:55 AM EDT
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Yup. I've successfully used fish azithromycin on many occasions. I've also gave it to friends and family with success. I recommend to buy cheap and stack deep.
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Posted: 10/24/2019 9:13:27 AM EDT
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Yup. I've successfully used fish azithromycin on many occasions. I've also gave it to friends and family with success. I recommend to buy cheap and stack deep. |
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Posted: 10/24/2019 9:16:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have fish. Where to buy cheap? https://www.payless-petproducts.com/azith250.html |
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Posted: 10/24/2019 11:03:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/24/2019 11:31:31 PM EDT
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Used to be a place near me that had amazing deals on the real deal products. Occasionally my fish would get sick and need meds.
I still have some Amox and PennVK Aquaticpharmacy is gone. This place looks to be nearly identical. https://fishmoxfishflex.com/collections/amoxicillin-fish-antibiotics When your fish and feathered friends are I'll. Make sure you are following a proper dosing guide. |
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Posted: 10/24/2019 11:52:16 PM EDT
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Used to be a place near me that had amazing deals on the real deal products. Occasionally my fish would get sick and need meds. I still have some Amox and PennVK Aquaticpharmacy is gone. This place looks to be nearly identical. https://fishmoxfishflex.com/collections/amoxicillin-fish-antibiotics When your fish and feathered friends are I'll. Make sure you are following a proper dosing guide. I heard Aquaticpharmacy moved and changed their name to Kraft Drug, but I'm not 100% sure about that. Their logo and page look very similar to the old Aquaticpharmacy. Kraft Drug |
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Posted: 10/24/2019 11:58:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Thomas Labs antibiotics at fishmoxfishflex website are GTG. I heard Aquaticpharmacy moved and changed their name to Kraft Drug, but I'm not 100% sure about that. Their logo and page look very similar to the old Aquaticpharmacy. Kraft Drug ETA. Even their sale prices for quantity are the same! |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 8:10:26 AM EDT
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I'm 99% sure that's aquatic pharmacy. ETA. Even their sale prices for quantity are the same! Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: The Thomas Labs antibiotics at fishmoxfishflex website are GTG. I heard Aquaticpharmacy moved and changed their name to Kraft Drug, but I'm not 100% sure about that. Their logo and page look very similar to the old Aquaticpharmacy. Kraft Drug ETA. Even their sale prices for quantity are the same! |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 11:17:16 AM EDT
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Would antibiotic shelf-life be better preserved if these were sealed in food vacuum sealers or just left in their original, unopened containers?
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Posted: 10/25/2019 11:22:24 AM EDT
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Would antibiotic shelf-life be better preserved if these were sealed in food vacuum sealers or just left in their original, unopened containers? A buddy here gave us some regular people type antibiotics back in 09'ish that we kept in our fridge. I used them for years up till around a year or so ago when I ran out of them. We keep some antibiotics in the fridge, some in deep storage and some in the medical kits and our packs in case of bug out. |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 11:31:42 AM EDT
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I'm 99% sure that's aquatic pharmacy. ETA. Even their sale prices for quantity are the same! Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: The Thomas Labs antibiotics at fishmoxfishflex website are GTG. I heard Aquaticpharmacy moved and changed their name to Kraft Drug, but I'm not 100% sure about that. Their logo and page look very similar to the old Aquaticpharmacy. Kraft Drug ETA. Even their sale prices for quantity are the same! |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 11:34:05 AM EDT
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My goldfish have been successfully cured of both persistent sinus infections and urinary tract infections with "Fish Mox" and "Fish Mox Forte" meds.
They are getting harder to find though, it used to be the large mass retailers allowing third-party sales all had them. Now it's basically ebay. |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 11:37:39 AM EDT
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Would antibiotic shelf-life be better preserved if these were sealed in food vacuum sealers or just left in their original, unopened containers? Also, read the army report on old and expired meds. Generally if they stay dry and at room temp they don't go bad over human lifetime and only lose a little effectiveness. |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 12:18:12 PM EDT
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Would antibiotic shelf-life be better preserved if these were sealed in food vacuum sealers or just left in their original, unopened containers? Aluminized Mylar films have exceptionally reduced permeability to oxygen and moisture. Versus the materials often used to package meds. Consider sealing your bottled meds in this material with O2 and moisture absorbers and freeze or refrigerate, for long term stroage. |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 12:25:10 PM EDT
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There is a so called 'reliable pharmacy' that sells doxy...
Doxycycline Hydrochloride Generic Brand for Vibramycin Manufactured by : Cipla 30 Capsules - US$ 5.41 Cipla is a MAJOR mfgr of pharmaceuticals in India, where much of our meds originate. |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 2:54:09 PM EDT
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Leave drugs in the original packaging, especially if it's blister packs (the best storage form). The main risk is contamination, anytime you open a container with pills in it and then close it they've exchanged air with the environment and picked up whatever was there.
Refrigerating is usually not necessary and can be counterproductive if you create condensation inside the packaging, which can alter the chemical properties or physically damage the pills. If you do refrigerate/freeze, when it comes time to use them you'll want to remove the container from the refrigerator and leave it sealed as it thaws slowly at ambient temp. Most ABs do not degrade naturally and are safe/effective indefinitely as long as you control for contamination, damage, and environmental factors like exposure to temp swings or sunlight. |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 6:07:34 PM EDT
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Leave drugs in the original packaging, especially if it's blister packs (the best storage form). The main risk is contamination, anytime you open a container with pills in it and then close it they've exchanged air with the environment and picked up whatever was there. Refrigerating is usually not necessary and can be counterproductive if you create condensation inside the packaging, which can alter the chemical properties or physically damage the pills. If you do refrigerate/freeze, when it comes time to use them you'll want to remove the container from the refrigerator and leave it sealed as it thaws slowly at ambient temp. Most ABs do not degrade naturally and are safe/effective indefinitely as long as you control for contamination, damage, and environmental factors like exposure to temp swings or sunlight. The big exception is tetracycline-family compounds (doxycycline, etc), which DO break down over time into toxic compounds; always respect the expiration date on those and toss anything past it. Here is the doxy study. More Doxy shelf-life info. More extension info on various antibiotics from the Mayo clinic. |
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Posted: 10/26/2019 12:31:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Leave drugs in the original packaging, especially if it's blister packs (the best storage form). The main risk is contamination, anytime you open a container with pills in it and then close it they've exchanged air with the environment and picked up whatever was there. Refrigerating is usually not necessary and can be counterproductive if you create condensation inside the packaging, which can alter the chemical properties or physically damage the pills. If you do refrigerate/freeze, when it comes time to use them you'll want to remove the container from the refrigerator and leave it sealed as it thaws slowly at ambient temp. Most ABs do not degrade naturally and are safe/effective indefinitely as long as you control for contamination, damage, and environmental factors like exposure to temp swings or sunlight. The big exception is tetracycline-family compounds (doxycycline, etc), which DO break down over time into toxic compounds; always respect the expiration date on those and toss anything past it. Wrong.... |
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Posted: 10/26/2019 1:14:17 AM EDT
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I leave the antibiotics in their sealed bottles then place that in a mylar bag with an oxygen absorber. Seal it up and keep it in a controlled temperature/humidity environment.
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Posted: 10/26/2019 10:38:03 AM EDT
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So will my 03 vintage Cipro still be good, sealed in original container? My fish wants to know.
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Posted: 10/26/2019 10:40:23 AM EDT
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So will my 03 vintage Cipro still be good, sealed in original container? My fish wants to know. |
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Posted: 10/26/2019 11:01:03 AM EDT
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The big exception is tetracycline-family compounds (doxycycline, etc), which DO break down over time into toxic compounds; always respect the expiration date on those and toss anything past it. And it's not just the analytical "I heard this" or "I read an old chart that said". I can personally attest to taking Tetracycline that was over 5 years out of date. This was years and years ago and no adverse health has come of it. |
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Posted: 10/26/2019 11:28:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Thomas Labs antibiotics at fishmoxfishflex website are GTG. I heard Aquaticpharmacy moved and changed their name to Kraft Drug, but I'm not 100% sure about that. Their logo and page look very similar to the old Aquaticpharmacy. Kraft Drug Doxy used to be around $12 for 100 count 100mg circa 2008 or so. Now $50 |
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Posted: 10/26/2019 3:08:34 PM EDT
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Well cool, good to learn my info was out-of-date and things have improved. I'll amend the post.
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Posted: 10/26/2019 9:33:33 PM EDT
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I have been doing price comparisons between FishMoxFishFlex, Kraft Drug, Chewy, and Country Side Pets. Kraft has the cheapest and the widest selection with some not available on the other sites. Kraft also has generic Viagra, do fish get erections???
There is also one anti-biotic it has that has been banned in the use of poultry in the US and approved by the FDA for pets, not sure of its use in humans. |
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Posted: 11/4/2019 9:42:50 PM EDT
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We had a big, really big goldfish at my house with a sinus infection and amox had him swimming much better in about 3 days. We were worried as there was now way that fish was going to fit down the toilet. This was almost five years ago and he is still swimming.
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Posted: 11/5/2019 12:02:07 AM EDT
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Kraft is now selling fish viagra. Apparently it helps with fish blood flow.
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Posted: 11/5/2019 11:21:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because they are the same. ETA: My fish has had a sinus infection. Just ordered Thomas Lab's Fish Mox Forte 500mg Amoxicillin (Forte part bumps it up from 250mg to 500mg per capsule). 100 capsules were $28 IIRC from Chewy.com. Fish reports sinus infection getting better. |
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Posted: 11/10/2019 2:52:22 AM EDT
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Tagging this for later
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Posted: 11/16/2019 9:49:30 AM EDT
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So will my 03 vintage Cipro still be good, sealed in original container? My fish wants to know. use it in very extreme cases. It takes weeks to get the good bacteria back in your system. That said I have a bottle in my refrigerator from 2012 and would not be without a med like that. Dysentery can kill your ass. @Rio762 Edit for spelling |
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