Digital Guard Channel - Wednesday Night Net 4/24 0000Z/2000ET / NEW BAND 20M 14067.5 KHZ - Page 20

Digital Guard Channel - Wednesday Night Net 4/24 0000Z/2000ET / NEW BAND 20M 14067.5 KHZ (Page 20 of 36)

GreenDragon Team Member Joined Aug 2002 Posts 4882 EE 100% (1) IL, USA	Posted: 8/3/2022 6:19:44 PM EDT [#1] I can NC tonight. Plan on 7120.

Nmbmxer Member Joined Feb 2005 Posts 2971 EE 100% (16) VA, USA	Posted: 8/3/2022 7:10:02 PM EDT [#2] Quote History Originally Posted By GreenDragon: I can NC tonight. Plan on 7120. View Quote Thanks for volunteering. Hoping I'll be able to catch the net, depends on if we can get home in time.
	Silent Brigade, 1/20/20: Dangerous wankers to a one. 3rd rate BB

GreenDragon Team Member Joined Aug 2002 Posts 4885 EE 100% (1) IL, USA	Posted: 8/3/2022 8:42:56 PM EDT [#3] One I/O, one with a report, and NCS.

Nmbmxer Member Joined Feb 2005 Posts 2972 EE 100% (16) VA, USA	Posted: 8/3/2022 9:14:28 PM EDT [#4] Net time coincided with a tstorm here, thanks for picking up NCS.
	Silent Brigade, 1/20/20: Dangerous wankers to a one. 3rd rate BB

seek2 Member Joined Mar 2011 Posts 14096 EE 100% (1) AZ, USA	Posted: 8/10/2022 3:17:29 PM EDT [#5] I should be present to NC tonight, however we've been having extensive thunderstorms for the past week, many of them pretty electrical, so we'll see if it's actually safe for me to TX at net time.
	Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.

robmkivseries70 Member Joined Oct 2009 Posts 7016 EE 100% (1) USA	Posted: 8/10/2022 6:26:40 PM EDT [#6] Tuned up on 20M. 73, Rob

seek2 Member Joined Mar 2011 Posts 14098 EE 100% (1) AZ, USA	Posted: 8/10/2022 6:48:26 PM EDT [#7] I'm dealing with active lightning strikes at < 1 mile according the the strike alarm. We'll see where I'm at by net time, and this point I'm QRT until the lightning is far enough away.
	Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.

GreenDragon Team Member Joined Aug 2002 Posts 4895 EE 100% (1) IL, USA	Posted: 8/10/2022 7:05:08 PM EDT [#8] I can fill in if needed.

seek2 Member Joined Mar 2011 Posts 14099 EE 100% (1) AZ, USA	Posted: 8/10/2022 7:13:36 PM EDT [#9] Quote History Originally Posted By GreenDragon: I can fill in if needed. View Quote Seeming likely. I have the alarm on and that cool lightning site aa777888-2 linked a while ago and it's pretty heavy around my QTH. Not as bad as it was an hour ago but still pretty bad as the map will show.
	Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.

weaponeer1911 Member Joined Oct 2012 Posts 715 EE 0% (0) TX, USA	Posted: 8/10/2022 7:13:41 PM EDT [#10] T-storms in my area tonight. Lightning, but unfortunately not much rain, which we really need. I'll try to get in if I can safely hook up my antennas.

GreenDragon Team Member Joined Aug 2002 Posts 4896 EE 100% (1) IL, USA	Posted: 8/10/2022 7:36:53 PM EDT [#11] Sending out on 7120.

cobullseye Joined Jul 2007 Posts 179 EE 100% (1) CO, USA	Posted: 8/10/2022 8:23:52 PM EDT [#12] Turns out my transmit time out was set to short. That is why we do this is to practice. Got it extended in the radio settings, will be better next week.

seek2 Member Joined Mar 2011 Posts 14100 EE 100% (1) AZ, USA	Posted: 8/10/2022 8:31:16 PM EDT [#13] Thanks for doing the net, GreenDragon. Still having random bolts here. Fortunately we're getting real rain every day and the forest is loving it.
	Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.

GreenDragon

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Posts 4897
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IL, USA

Posted: 8/10/2022 8:42:28 PM EDT

[#14]

Quote History

Originally Posted By cobullseye:
Turns out my transmit time out was set to short. That is why we do this is to practice. Got it extended in the radio settings, will be better next week.

View Quote

You're signal wasn't very strong, but it was a pretty solid copy and then it dropped. I figured that the band changed. Glad you got it figured out.

GreenDragon Team Member Joined Aug 2002 Posts 4898 EE 100% (1) IL, USA	Posted: 8/10/2022 8:43:27 PM EDT [#15] Quote History Originally Posted By seek2: Thanks for doing the net, GreenDragon. Still having random bolts here. Fortunately we're getting real rain every day and the forest is loving it. View Quote Glad to do it. 4 checkins plus NC.

seek2 Member Joined Mar 2011 Posts 14126 EE 100% (1) AZ, USA	Posted: 8/17/2022 2:34:24 PM EDT [#16] I should be present to NC tonight if it's safe to do so. It's actively thunderstorming here right now and it's not even noon yet, so it's iffy. Yesterday we had quite the electrical storm.
	Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.

seek2 Member Joined Mar 2011 Posts 14133 EE 100% (1) AZ, USA	Posted: 8/17/2022 6:56:32 PM EDT [#17] Storms in area but the thunder so far is distant and no readings on the strike detector within 15 miles so far. Fingers crossed. First notice will go out at 2300Z as usual.
	Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.

seek2 Member Joined Mar 2011 Posts 14134 EE 100% (1) AZ, USA	Posted: 8/17/2022 7:04:08 PM EDT [#18] ... first reminder out without a glitch, still nothing on the strike detector. This could happen.
	Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.

robmkivseries70 Member Joined Oct 2009 Posts 7034 EE 100% (1) USA	Posted: 8/17/2022 7:10:30 PM EDT [#19] @seek2 On which band are you doing the notices? There is a major geomagnetic storm in progress and I wanted to check propagation. 73, Rob

seek2 Member Joined Mar 2011 Posts 14136 EE 100% (1) AZ, USA	Posted: 8/17/2022 7:12:19 PM EDT [#20] Quote History Originally Posted By robmkivseries70: @seek2 On which band are you doing the notices? There is a major geomagnetic storm in progress and I wanted to check propagation. 73, Rob View Quote @robmkivseries70 40M, 7120 KHz per usual.
	Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.

robmkivseries70 Member Joined Oct 2009 Posts 7035 EE 100% (1) USA	Posted: 8/17/2022 7:25:16 PM EDT [#21] Thanks, I must have had the rig turned down, you are there twice when I looked at the FLDIGI screen. 73, Rob

seek2 Member Joined Mar 2011 Posts 14137 EE 100% (1) AZ, USA	Posted: 8/17/2022 7:26:02 PM EDT [#22] Quote History Originally Posted By robmkivseries70: Thanks, I must have had the rig turned down, you are there twice when I looked at the FLDIGI screen. 73, Rob View Quote Thanks for the report. On my end the band is super super quiet.
	Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.

seek2 Member Joined Mar 2011 Posts 14139 EE 100% (1) AZ, USA	Posted: 8/17/2022 7:59:43 PM EDT [#23] I can see y'all talking about not hearing my warnings even if you can't hear me. Do we need an alternate NC?
	Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.

GreenDragon Team Member Joined Aug 2002 Posts 4916 EE 100% (1) IL, USA	Posted: 8/17/2022 8:01:09 PM EDT [#24] I hear you now on the preamble

GreenDragon Team Member Joined Aug 2002 Posts 4917 EE 100% (1) IL, USA	Posted: 8/17/2022 8:02:26 PM EDT [#25] Correction. I got the first couple of lines then it dropped

Nmbmxer Member Joined Feb 2005 Posts 2977 EE 100% (16) VA, USA	Posted: 8/17/2022 8:03:44 PM EDT [#26] I'm just going to go for an I/O as this is what I copy: Weqome &o;Nhe O+ivia digital n}. EU pse check in uCing fol owing foqbMtA ""...@\9LLSIG$cLLSIGN 0RUpKN ."Gw$[>,H(nnel to clear thnSTX, it iPOn>t neI$5y_to wait for net UcDqrY [o confi5m everLEkAVl. U n{ri]gSthe neM, fv you DeOamB"sage relaye, d View Quote
	Silent Brigade, 1/20/20: Dangerous wankers to a one. 3rd rate BB

seek2 Member Joined Mar 2011 Posts 14140 EE 100% (1) AZ, USA	Posted: 8/17/2022 8:03:55 PM EDT [#27] We'll see how it goes, I can transfer to someone else after the first set of calls if not everyone hears me.
	Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.

seek2 Member Joined Mar 2011 Posts 14141 EE 100% (1) AZ, USA	Posted: 8/17/2022 8:30:54 PM EDT [#28] Five stations + NC tonight. Really awful propagation, all but one station was at or near ghost print.
	Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.

GreenDragon Team Member Joined Aug 2002 Posts 4918 EE 100% (1) IL, USA	Posted: 8/17/2022 8:43:48 PM EDT [#29] I heard all stations 100% except NC. NC was 0% copy on decode and Waterfall, would bounce up to 100% at 15dB for a sentence or two, and then drop back down to 0%

robmkivseries70 Member Joined Oct 2009 Posts 7036 EE 100% (1) USA	Posted: 8/17/2022 11:36:33 PM EDT [#30] Agreed, being in the middle of the country has an advantage. Did anybody check 20M for activity? 73, Rob

GreenDragon Team Member Joined Aug 2002 Posts 4921 EE 100% (1) IL, USA	Posted: 8/18/2022 7:18:26 AM EDT [#31] I hunted a couple of POTAs on 20m before net and picked up the Navajo Codetalker SES on 20m around 2030 central. Immediately after net, I sent out an HB on 7078 JS8 and seemed to get out fine.

weaponeer1911

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TX, USA

Posted: 8/18/2022 8:29:13 AM EDT

[#32]

I could hear most check-ins, but it was rough and not 100% print. Net Control was only about S-3 here and in the noise from some local scattered T-storms (finally.) Too bad we only got a few drops of rain out of them.

I usually have another 2 meter FM simplex net going on in my area at the same time as this net. Usually I can do both at the same time, but last night it was just a little too rough to copy.

Nmbmxer Member Joined Feb 2005 Posts 2978 EE 100% (16) VA, USA	Posted: 8/18/2022 10:24:47 AM EDT [#33] Next time prop sucks we should try one of the narrower Olivia modes and see if we can quantify the difference. I understand that narrower is better, not sure I understand the affect of the number of tones, fewer is slower but better snr?
	Silent Brigade, 1/20/20: Dangerous wankers to a one. 3rd rate BB

seek2

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Joined Mar 2011
Posts 14143
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AZ, USA

Posted: 8/18/2022 12:59:08 PM EDT

[#34]

There's more ECC on the higher tone count, so the SNR goes up with the number of tones.

The data rates go down, though, I think because it needs more samples to determine the bin the tone is in.

We've played with it in the past. The reality is the SNR improvements are pretty minor relative to the noise
(500/16 is -14dB decode, 500/64 is -19dB decode.) Ultimately I think when Olivia isn't working there's just
not a good enough path for much of anything to work.

The high SNR modes start to get really slow, like FT8/WSPR level slow.

Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.

seek2 Member Joined Mar 2011 Posts 14164 EE 100% (1) AZ, USA	Posted: 8/24/2022 1:59:52 PM EDT [#35] We'll need a volunteer this week's net control as I'm tied up with work (and I'm having thunderstorms every single day now, which doesn't help.) Next week my schedule should go back to normal for a month or more.
	Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.

Nmbmxer Member Joined Feb 2005 Posts 2983 EE 100% (16) VA, USA	Posted: 8/24/2022 5:02:29 PM EDT [#36] I can't do it, traveling for work in Missouri / Kansas. Might be able to remote in to my shack for an in/out of time (and wx at home) allows.
	Silent Brigade, 1/20/20: Dangerous wankers to a one. 3rd rate BB

GreenDragon Team Member Joined Aug 2002 Posts 4943 EE 100% (1) IL, USA	Posted: 8/24/2022 6:50:41 PM EDT [#37] I can do it. I'll be on 7120. Probably won't get a warning out until 30 minutes prior. 7120

weaponeer1911 Member Joined Oct 2012 Posts 718 EE 0% (0) TX, USA	Posted: 8/24/2022 7:52:23 PM EDT [#38] And I won't be able to make it tonight. I have a conflict with another net/exercise where I need the same equipment. Be back next week.

USMC2671 Joined Nov 2008 Posts 4883 EE 100% (2) VA, USA	Posted: 8/24/2022 8:39:19 PM EDT [#39] I was able to receive everyone during comments.

GreenDragon Team Member Joined Aug 2002 Posts 4944 EE 100% (1) IL, USA	Posted: 8/24/2022 8:48:04 PM EDT [#40] Great net tonight. 7 check ins plus NC for 8. Strong signals and low noise.....except for the guy talking.

robmkivseries70 Member Joined Oct 2009 Posts 7047 EE 100% (1) USA	Posted: 8/24/2022 9:03:57 PM EDT [#41] The band is in good shape tonight, the interfering station may have been in another region/ Micronesia/ etc. 73, Rob

seek2 Member Joined Mar 2011 Posts 14166 EE 100% (1) AZ, USA	Posted: 8/24/2022 9:23:50 PM EDT [#42] Quote History Originally Posted By GreenDragon: Great net tonight. 7 check ins plus NC for 8. Strong signals and low noise.....except for the guy talking. View Quote Wow, that's a record for recent nets! Thanks for NCing, GreenDragon!
	Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.

GreenDragon Team Member Joined Aug 2002 Posts 4945 EE 100% (1) IL, USA	Posted: 8/24/2022 9:26:17 PM EDT [#43] Sure thing, happy to do it. I wish that you'd send a little rain our way, I'd even take some thunderstorms.

seek2 Member Joined Mar 2011 Posts 14189 EE 100% (1) AZ, USA	Posted: 8/31/2022 1:05:26 PM EDT [#44] I will be present to NC today -- no storms are forecast and I'm done working evenings.
	Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.

weaponeer1911 Member Joined Oct 2012 Posts 719 EE 0% (0) TX, USA	Posted: 8/31/2022 5:15:13 PM EDT [#45] I'm going to have to miss again tonight. We have another drill/practice session using winlink peer-to-peer tonight, getting ready for a big state-wide ARES/RACES digital exercise next month.

seek2 Member Joined Mar 2011 Posts 14194 EE 100% (1) AZ, USA	Posted: 8/31/2022 7:01:55 PM EDT [Last Edit: seek2] [#46] First reminder out at 2300Z. ETA: 2315Z out as well. ETA #2: And 2330Z, too. Copying testing and traffic from two other stations, one can't hear me. ETA #3 copied a fellow AZ station as well!
	Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.

GreenDragon Team Member Joined Aug 2002 Posts 4960 EE 100% (1) IL, USA	Posted: 8/31/2022 7:48:46 PM EDT [#47] I could hear what i believe to be your 2345Z warning, but I wasn't able to pick up any activity on the decode panel

seek2 Member Joined Mar 2011 Posts 14195 EE 100% (1) AZ, USA	Posted: 8/31/2022 7:50:37 PM EDT [#48] Quote History Originally Posted By GreenDragon: I could hear what i believe to be your 2345Z warning, but I wasn't able to pick up any activity on the decode panel View Quote I'm seeing your tests OK. I wonder if we need a different NC just because on one is hearing me?
	Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.

GreenDragon Team Member Joined Aug 2002 Posts 4961 EE 100% (1) IL, USA	Posted: 8/31/2022 7:52:15 PM EDT [#49] I can if you want. Not sure that I'll do any better. 40m arf phone net was very regional last night.

seek2 Member Joined Mar 2011 Posts 14196 EE 100% (1) AZ, USA	Posted: 8/31/2022 7:55:42 PM EDT [#50] Quote History Originally Posted By GreenDragon: I can if you want. Not sure that I'll do any better. 40m arf phone net was very regional last night. View Quote Well I'm hearing you and someone on the east coast is as well, so you might be the better bet for NC.
	Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.

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