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Posted: 10/25/2022 2:40:41 PM EDT
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I’ve stored Gerry cans of diesel for a couple years but I used pri-d fuel stabilizer as well as an algicide. I have four seasons so you may need something different.
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Posted: 10/25/2022 3:04:54 PM EDT
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I have (4) 55 gallons drums filled. Diesel is still good and I filled them right when the covid panic came. I put fuel stabilizer and anti algae stuff in them. They are stored in a higher heat environment. I just have a tarp over them. No issues.
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Posted: 10/25/2022 3:23:14 PM EDT
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Thanks for the replies.
I've found some drums that held new motor oil. Is drip draining them and swishing around some gasoline good enough cleaning to hold diesel? I'd filter it on the way out. This would be running a modern RAM Cummins engine. |
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Posted: 10/25/2022 6:53:47 PM EDT
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Drip draining a new drum is good enough for diesel. If you are storing for years in a vapor tight 55 gallon drum, just use a biocide treatment and store in the shade.
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Posted: 10/26/2022 9:57:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Drip draining a new drum is good enough for diesel. If you are storing for years in a vapor tight 55 gallon drum, just use a biocide treatment and store in the shade. Especially since it had motor oil (a lubricant) in there. Just like when I get new Euro gas cans, we always fill them with diesel first. |
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Posted: 10/26/2022 10:19:44 AM EDT
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I keep two drums of diesel and two drums of non-E 89 gasoline in the barn year-round. Only one gas drum is translucent but I keep them out of the direct sun. Sometimes we go through a drum in a few months, sometimes it lasts over a year, but I like to keep at least one full always. Only the tractor and SxS use diesel and they're incredibly fuel-efficient. This means that the drums could theoretically sit for two years — I have yet to have any issues with either. I bet the diesel would keep much longer if needed. I use dieselkleen silver in the summer and white in the winter.
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Posted: 10/27/2022 8:53:11 AM EDT
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Evidently algae growth is now a major problem with the "newer" diesel.
Had quite a lot of issues with this recently in the plastic fuel tank on my John Deere tractor. Had to get the fuel pump rebuilt, had to replace the fuel filter/hand pump primer assembly, change some fuel lines, etc. Drained and flushed and cleaned tank multiple times. Added an inline filter that started catching a lot of the gunk before it got to the main fuel/water filter and pump. Changed that about a dozen times as it would start to clog and you could tell the engine was struggling. Shut the tractor down, changed filters, primed again and kept going. Added some special stuff to kill the algae, filled tank to overflowing so as not to take any chances and started again. 5-6 more inline filters later and it's running like normal. Given the prospect of having to use "old" gas and diesel in a SHTF situation, it's important to stock up on these things. Bought about a dozen more of the inline filters, hose clamps, roll of fuel line hose, added some more fuel/water filters, lots of cans of ether. I'm NOT a mechanic, I just try tracing down issues to specific systems and swapping parts. Between all the "changes" they have made in the various fuels, along with the "changes" they made in battery technology, I would say in a true TEOTWAWKI situation I could see normal vehicular transport becoming a major problem inside of 5-7 years. What's your thoughts on that? |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 12:06:50 AM EDT
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What size and kind of fuel line do you cache?
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Posted: 11/4/2022 12:58:20 AM EDT
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Treat it with some diesel fuel biocide and keep it in an air tight container, it will last years. I just finished up some diesel from 2011 that's been stored in 5 gallon NATO cans (in a non-climate controlled pole barn) with no issues. If storing in 55 gallons drum you can run a filter with your transfer pump for added protection.
5 gallon cans are easier to handle but take up more room, a 55 gallon drum of fuel is going to a bit over 400 lbs, movable by hand but I'd prefer to have at least a dolly for moving them around. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 6:33:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What size and kind of fuel line do you cache? Caveat- I'm definitely not a mechanic! I just took a piece of the fuel line to Napa and said "I need a roll this size and clamps." It seemed to be the same size as the fuel line I have coming out of one of my diesel tanks to a filter then to an old China Diesel gensets. Looked similar to fuel line I used doing similar work in my backhoe also. Fuel issues due to age, degradation of the fuel, etc. are going to be a problem post SHTF, I figured some spares like this would help me do work arounds and repairs if/when that's ever needed. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 9:30:46 AM EDT
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The only diesel-powered machine I have is a small mini excavator. I usually keep the tank topped off, and 10 gallons of kero diesel mix to top off with prior to winter, and during winter. I keep 3 gallons of just diesel for summer use. If I use a can, I go fill it up. That little bit, plus a full tank on the machine would let me run it for a while. It has a small fuel tank on it but gets better than 1/2 gallon per hour at full throttle. I have several oil filters, and one spare fuel filter on hand.
I don't have much need to keep more diesel on hand than that. I do store a fair amount of non-ethanol gas and try to rotate it annually. I quit using snake oil years ago and just get the non-ethanol. I have used two plus year-old gas in all my small engines and powersports with zero issues. I use regular but older scepter plastic gas cans or similar and have for over a decade. I would love to invest and replace with some jerry cans from rover parts which is not that far away from me, but I have yet to justify the cost of buying 10 of those cans when I have had decent luck with regular ones I have had for years. I rarely transport it anywhere and if I do need gas, I am usually bringing nothing bigger than a 2.5 gallon can. The only time I move around my 5-gallon cans is when I am using the gas or bringing them to the gas station for refill. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 9:31:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Caveat- I'm definitely not a mechanic! I just took a piece of the fuel line to Napa and said "I need a roll this size and clamps." It seemed to be the same size as the fuel line I have coming out of one of my diesel tanks to a filter then to an old China Diesel gensets. Looked similar to fuel line I used doing similar work in my backhoe also. Fuel issues due to age, degradation of the fuel, etc. are going to be a problem post SHTF, I figured some spares like this would help me do work arounds and repairs if/when that's ever needed. Spares are a good thing to have. I have a bunch of different size gas lines on hand. I would rather have it, then not be able to get it when I need it. |
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Posted: 11/5/2022 9:37:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Spares are a good thing to have. I have a bunch of different size gas lines on hand. I would rather have it, then not be able to get it when I need it. Definitely. Good time to look at tires and replace if need be and $$ able to as well. Last one I replaced on a tractor they hadn't gone up too bad. But they last a long time and it's not like you can fashion a tractor tire at home on your rubber lathe 
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Posted: 11/17/2022 12:09:31 AM EDT
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I just ran my motor home hard on 2+ yr old diesel with no issue at all.
Just an FYI |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 4:07:59 PM EDT
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Locally clear kerosene is $4.06 per gallon while dyed diesel is $4.79 per gallon. If I burned more diesel I’d probably mix kerosene in regularly to save money. First time I’ve ever seen kerosene cheaper than diesel.
I keep 8-10 gallons of kerosene on hand as a backup and to winterize my summer diesel since I don’t use much diesel normally. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 5:25:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Locally clear kerosene is $4.06 per gallon while dyed diesel is $4.79 per gallon. If I burned more diesel I’d probably mix kerosene in regularly to save money. First time I’ve ever seen kerosene cheaper than diesel. I keep 8-10 gallons of kerosene on hand as a backup and to winterize my summer diesel since I don’t use much diesel normally. I also mix the little I use in my mini excavator for winter. |
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Posted: 11/21/2022 11:13:23 PM EDT
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Picked up a couple semi saddle tanks for fuel storage. Used the hangers to mount them on pallet racks. Can pick them up with tractor loader if needed. Used one of the holes for a gravity drain so I don't need a pump.
Found them on FB pretty cheap, 100 bucks for the pair with mounts. |
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Posted: 11/21/2022 11:29:49 PM EDT
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Quoted: Looking to put up a few 100 gal of diesel as a ‘get out of the city’ plan. I live in a very dry environment, and it’s 100+ F all summer. Mild winters. What’s the best way to store it? I was thinking a few 55 gal drums so that I could still move it around and load it into my truck. Is it better to cycle it through every few months or just treat it and keep for longer? Thanks! If it's sealed from the atmosphere, it should stay good more or less forever. You could call your local fuel distributor and price out a couple of barrels already sealed and with any additive packages you want. |
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Posted: 12/4/2022 2:18:07 PM EDT
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I had diesel stored in metal Jerry cans for 3 years in my shop.
I put Pri-D and Biocide in, no mold, algae, nothing, tractor and truck are running just fine. Wish I had a good spot to put a 55 gallon drum. |
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