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Posted: 5/15/2021 10:02:13 PM EDT
Recently replaced the throttle on my boat from Morse MT-2 to a Uflex B310B. Got everything hooked up and reinstalled, and noticed it seems very hard to shift into forward. The boat never shifted particularly well. I believe the shifter was sloppy and it was in forward gear even in the neutral position. When shifting to R, it would pretty much slam into R.
I have not started the motor yet and wonder if it would shift poorly due to motor being off. The drive is a Volvo Penta AQ280. I did verify in N that the propeller spins both ways freely. In F it spins F, and in R it spins in R. So that all looks good. Just not |
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How is the shift cable itself? Look at it closely between where it exits the transom assembly
and the upper itself. It is exposed to the water/elements and if it's cracked water causes corrosion inside the cable making for hard shifts. Marine drives always shift easier when the engine is running for different reasons depending on the drive (cone clutch vs. clutch dog). |
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I will take a closer look at the cable. It probably just needs to be replaced.
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Well this is fun
Any opinions if it's preferred to pull the cable from the helm forward or from the drive aft? |
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The cable was worse than expected. The sleeve part broke off the the little barrel is now stuck in the drive. Yikes
ETA--got it. Damn tough work. The old cable was pretty badly corroded on the drive side and was in terrible adjustment. I am hoping to start the engine today and expect things to drive much smoother |
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The boat runs! It's been out of commission since 1/1/2021. All new paint and significant recoring and structural work on the topsides (minus the deck). New electrical systems, steering and shift/throttle, electric trim tab conversion, new coupler and wiring on the trailer. So many more projects I am sure I can't think of at the moment.
5 second clip of first time running--> https://imgur.com/jWrgKhb I have a seadek sheet that I need to cut and install on the helm and floor in the cabin. Then I'll reinstall the glass. Hang the antenna, wire the radio, and just a few other odds and ends. Hoping to launch by next weekend. |
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Follow the Sea Dek instructions and prep the surface/deck properly. I've installed a few kits (properly) and have seen some customer installed kits (improperly) and mine are still GTG. Theirs are peeling up at the edges. |
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The throttle cable should be adjusted so it "pushes" the linkage against the
curb idle screw ever so slightly when the control handle in in the idle position. This is called pre-load and it only needs just enough to make it happen. Too much and it will be hard to shift. Could also be an intermittant vacuum leak but most likely cable adjustment. Good on the sea trial! ETA - What kind of RPM's were you getting at wide open throttle, planed out? |
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Originally Posted By KB7DX: The throttle cable should be adjusted so it "pushes" the linkage against the curb idle screw ever so slightly when the control handle in in the idle position. This is called pre-load and it only needs just enough to make it happen. Too much and it will be hard to shift. Could also be an intermittant vacuum leak but most likely cable adjustment. Good on the sea trial! ETA - What kind of RPM's were you getting at wide open throttle, planed out? View Quote I did not open up the throttle fully today but on previous sea trials we have done ~4500 RPM at 33ish knots (measured in knots by GPS). This is off the central coast of California, conditions are never ideal and opportunities to max things out are rare, unless you really want to take your boat fully airborne. This boat is a late 70s model that was made specifically to service the urchin fishery. There is typically nice smooth weather to cross the channel in the morning, and wind comes up in the afternoon to make it a bouncy, rough downhill slog- especially for the urchin fisherman fully laden with their catch. It's a solid glass 20' hull and small mid-cabin glass over 1/2" ply, I'm guessing it weighs around 4k empty of fuel and holds 80+ gallons. This particular boat was built for the curator of a marine museum who used it to rescue sea mammals at the Channel islands. The second owners used it as a surf taxi to visit all the best surf locations. I'm the third owner and just want to use it . |
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Had another fun day out. I put a little preload on the throttle cable and things smoothed out in the near-idle spectrum. Everything went well at the ramp despite many boaters in line etc. My first boat was a 20' sailboat that I launched off a crane in some of the sportiest sailing conditions on the planet. Launching a power boat off a trailer in a busy harbor in moderate conditions still induces some stress. I really don't want to end up immortalized on qualified captain or something.
With pretty flat weather, I had a chance to dial up the throttle. The best I got was about 4100rpm and ~29 knots. There is probably very slight room for improvement there but once again this boat and motor are quite old, and conditions rarely permit such ostentatious displays of speed. My propellor is kinda old and junky, it must be made of painted aluminum. I'd probably do best to improve that with a higher quality option. |
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Think I might have answered my own question with some thorough googling.
I'm ordering parts: 839195 853862 853861 I will pull the drive and steering this weekend and see what I'm working with. Fingers crossed the splines and parts come apart nicely and are in good condition and I am back up and running for spring halibut! |
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#4 are the bushings and #13 is the seal. The steering fork will hang down a bit
maybe 1/16-1/8 inch and won't be flush up against the transom shield (Mounting collar Volvo terms). Good luck. I hate those drives. ETA - Have a look at #17 the water neck and make sure it isn't corroded badly. Most of them do. Also, while it's apart, you may want to replace the seals on the lower pivot point as the cooling water runs through it. If the seals leak, the sea pump will suck air and you will have a high speed overheat. |
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I will take a look when it's opened up. Cooling water on this system actually comes in through a sea strainer mounted in the hull bottom. I'm not sure if there is a block off plate on the water neck or how it might be closed but I'll definitely need to make sure it's still solid.
ETA-I've looked into repowering this boat with an outboard. My buddy recently got a Suzuki 200 for 32k. I figure for half that I can upgrade to a 383 and duoprop outdrive when the time comes. I'll make it work for now, there is still plenty cosmetic and mechanical stuff to tend |
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I held off on removing the drive and glad I did because the bushings have been order for over a week with no ETA. Hopefully they come soon, we've been under gale and small craft warnings for a couple weeks now on the Pacific coast. I'd like to get out soon to fish halibut and rockfish. Salmon is looking good too.
In other embarrassing news, I ran the motor in the driveway for about 30 seconds or so with the flush valve closed. I decided to replace the impeller again because I really don't want to be caught miles offshore if the impeller lets go, and really don't want to ever try to change it on the water. The boat has a flush deck design which means if waves come over the bow or stern they'll drain out scuppers rather than pool in the bilge. Unfortunately that makes the deck very high and the impeller is very low in the engine compartment. It's a real gymnastic endeavor. |
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