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Posted: 9/28/2021 6:43:15 PM EDT
Was fishing the other morning and black walnuts were raining down.
Haven't fooled with them in decades, but picked up a few. ( I did use some mushy black husks to stain a muzzleloader stock in 1986  Used to drive over them to husk them. Tried something different. Half a bucket of water, and a paint paddle.  Attached File Attached FileNothing happened other than one occasionally shot out like a ping pong ball. But after 3, or 4, or 5 minutes, paddle started biting. Couple minutes more.  Attached FilePoured thru screen, picked out nuts.  Attached FileMy fingers still stained. Wear old clothes. Set nuts on wire to dry.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 9/28/2021 8:37:47 PM EDT
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@Dave15
That's actually pretty neat! As kids, we used to practice pitching accuracy using those things until I learned what they were later in life. |
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Posted: 9/28/2021 8:42:15 PM EDT
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OP is in the wrong part of the country for a sure-fire, get-rich scheme . . .
https://black-walnuts.com/discover-harvesting-and-hulling/hulling-and-buying-locations/ |
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Posted: 9/28/2021 8:50:54 PM EDT
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That's the easy part.
MANY hours wasted trying to get pieces bigger than a micron out of those damn things. |
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Posted: 9/29/2021 5:19:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the easy part. MANY hours wasted trying to get pieces bigger than a micron out of those damn things. 50 years ago,we whacked them with a hammer, then ate shell and nut fragments. Tried an old Lee single stage press this time. Took a LOT more leaning on it than I expected. See how they are when they dry a bit more. |
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Posted: 9/29/2021 11:08:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP is in the wrong part of the country for a sure-fire, get-rich scheme . . . https://black-walnuts.com/discover-harvesting-and-hulling/hulling-and-buying-locations/ I made my first $ million picking up walnuts in grade school!! After I squandered that, I moved on to cutting cedars. Now that the $ million earned from cedars is gone I plan to move on to raccoon pelts. |
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Posted: 9/29/2021 12:46:58 PM EDT
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Anyone who picks up walnuts is bad at math in my opinion.
Back when gas was $4 a gallon I saw a man and his wife picking up a pickup bed full of walnuts about 8 miles from town. They probably had 600 pounds after hulling so $78 at $13 per hundred. I bet they spent 6 hours and $10 in gas just getting them to town to sell them. So $68 for 12 man hours of work or $5.67 an hour. Literally anything besides picking up cans along the highway pays better than that! |
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Posted: 9/29/2021 1:40:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Literally anything besides picking up cans along the highway pays better than that! I guess you've never cut cedars for money?!?! |
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Posted: 9/29/2021 2:13:26 PM EDT
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OP, what do you plan to do with them?
Grandpa had a few black walnut tree's on the farm. My aunt's and uncles all absolutely hated them(of course, the trees were right next to the house and driveway). I grabbed some of the walnuts last time I was down there and have been thinking about trying to plant them for my homestead. Everyone is telling me I'm crazy, but I kinda think it would be a fun reminder of my childhood. Of course, I'm not planting them anywhere near my house. So, I've gotta figure out how to plant these. I think they have to go through a cold cycle. |
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Posted: 9/29/2021 5:05:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone who picks up walnuts is bad at math in my opinion . . . I've actually never gathered walnuts for cash, but I've observed the behavior. I talked with one family who made it a family tradition. They would spend a couple of weekends gathering nuts and then use the few hundred dollars they earned to fund their Christmas presents. I guess the tradition was more valuable than their time. |
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Posted: 9/29/2021 5:06:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP, what do you plan to do with them? . Have the wife slip some into her double chocolate chip cookies, so I can tell myself they're healthy! ETA Plus, partly nostalgia for me. Most folks I did this stuff with 50 years ago are gone. 
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Posted: 9/29/2021 6:56:02 PM EDT
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Need to let then sit a couple of days, then place in a cement mixer to remove husks and wash. Then place on roof to dry. Then spend all winter cracking and removing the meat from the shell.
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Posted: 9/29/2021 9:32:15 PM EDT
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My boy makes some pretty good folding money every year picking walnuts. He’s got a good little business going. He’s been doing it for 4 years and has a lot of places to pick. Average’s about $16 an hour
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Posted: 10/1/2021 7:06:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My boy makes some pretty good folding money every year picking walnuts. He’s got a good little business going. He’s been doing it for 4 years and has a lot of places to pick. Average’s about $16 an hourhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/230179/F67E41D8-E133-4C6E-92E0-56FA3E82A4CF_jpe-2111338.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/230179/CC10550E-36F7-45A1-A349-1FE230430B8E_jpe-2111341.JPG Can we get more pics of that operation? Curious what the elevator feeds in to. Thanks @sigpros |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 8:01:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My boy makes some pretty good folding money every year picking walnuts. He’s got a good little business going. He’s been doing it for 4 years and has a lot of places to pick. Average’s about $16 an hourhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/230179/F67E41D8-E133-4C6E-92E0-56FA3E82A4CF_jpe-2111338.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/230179/CC10550E-36F7-45A1-A349-1FE230430B8E_jpe-2111341.JPG That photo has got to be staged, his hands aren't solid black!! |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 5:05:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That photo has got to be staged, his hands aren't solid black!! LOL, day after I worked them in pics, I walk into.work, grab a cup.of coffee, and Co.worker asks, " Your butt itch?"
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Posted: 10/1/2021 5:23:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone who picks up walnuts is bad at math in my opinion. Back when gas was $4 a gallon I saw a man and his wife picking up a pickup bed full of walnuts about 8 miles from town. They probably had 600 pounds after hulling so $78 at $13 per hundred. I bet they spent 6 hours and $10 in gas just getting them to town to sell them. So $68 for 12 man hours of work or $5.67 an hour. Literally anything besides picking up cans along the highway pays better than that! My kids used to collect them our place and a few of the neighbors. They'd get $50-60 for a couple weekend's work; righteous bucks when you're 14 and that new video game release is callin' your name. And they learned the difference between earning money and having none. |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 9:45:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can we get more pics of that operation? Curious what the elevator feeds in to. Thanks @sigpros When he starts selling them I’ll get ya some pics. Hammonds walnuts are in Stockton mo and they set these hulling stations up all over the area. They pay a family to run it (lots of kids do it for a FFA project) we show up and hull the walnuts and the people pay us. Hammondssends a semi around and picks up the walnuts. Hammonds sells something like 95% of all the black walnuts people buy. That conveyor feeds into a drum that has chains tha knock the hulls off while the drum spins. The nuts come out still in the shell and go into the onion type sacks. They weigh them and cut a check. Looks like prices went up $20 a hundred pounds this year. My boy picked up over 2800 pounds last year |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 9:47:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That photo has got to be staged, his hands aren't solid black!! He uses a roller to pick them up. He has been brainstorming a machine to pick them up like a mini combine. Trying to figure out how to make something out of an old riding mower with a snow blower. |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 9:49:45 PM EDT
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 Attached FileWell the pic flipped but here is him with the roller picking them up at a local park. The city guys love him doing it so they don’t hit him with the mower |
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Posted: 10/2/2021 6:42:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He uses a roller to pick them up. He has been brainstorming a machine to pick them up like a mini combine. Trying to figure out how to make something out of an old riding mower with a snow blower. Driving range golf ball picker-upper attachment. Saw one in use awhile back. Had a full , small mesh cage on it, guy was running it WHILE folks were Teeing off on him, lol. |
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Posted: 10/3/2021 9:46:27 PM EDT
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Sorry guys didn’t get any pics but he picked up 430 pounds today
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Posted: 10/4/2021 7:53:20 AM EDT
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So what are they paying per 100# now?
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Posted: 10/4/2021 8:10:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: . . . Hammonds walnuts are in Stockton mo and they set these hulling stations up all over the area. They pay a family to run it (lots of kids do it for a FFA project) we show up and hull the walnuts and the people pay us. Hammondssends a semi around and picks up the walnuts. Hammonds sells something like 95% of all the black walnuts people buy . . . When I worked for Rural Missouri (magazie), I did a feature story on Hammonds. I confess, since I grew up in the city, the whole annual tradition of black walnut harvest was new to me at the time. I was really impressed by their operation. They have something like 900-1,000 hulling stations scattered around the United States (mostly limited to a few midwestern states and a few states out East). And yes, they are the 900-pound gorilla of black walnuts. Nearly all of the U.S. supply (if not the world's) passes through Stockton, Missouri. As part of that story I wrote, I visited the production facility. I don't recall exactly how the machine works that removes the nuts from the shell, but it was basically some kind of crusher, combined with a separator/sorter. The final stage was a line of women in hair nets watching as the processed nuts passed by on a conveyor belt. Those ladies only job was to pick out pieces of shells that made it past the sorter. One thing I found really interesting is that there is very little actual use for black walnuts. Nobody eats them raw. IIRC, they are used for just two things: baking into cakes/cookies/breads and including in ice cream. The hulls are used as an industrial abrasive. BTW, when a big tornado hit Stockton, Missouri, a few years ago, it took out Hammond's hull storage facility. The hulls were worthless as an industrial abrasive at that point because they were contaminated with debris. The electric co-ops took the bad hulls and burned them in a small power plant they used to operate in Chamois, turning the waste into electricity. |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 7:41:36 PM EDT
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$20/100 pounds. Highest price I’ve ever seen. Slow going up here. The hulling station said we were only the second people in all week. They did 60,000 pounds last year
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Posted: 10/4/2021 7:43:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When I worked for Rural Missouri (magazie), I did a feature story on Hammonds. I confess, since I grew up in the city, the whole annual tradition of black walnut harvest was new to me at the time. I was really impressed by their operation. They have something like 900-1,000 hulling stations scattered around the United States (mostly limited to a few midwestern states and a few states out East). And yes, they are the 900-pound gorilla of black walnuts. Nearly all of the U.S. supply (if not the world's) passes through Stockton, Missouri. As part of that story I wrote, I visited the production facility. I don't recall exactly how the machine works that removes the nuts from the shell, but it was basically some kind of crusher, combined with a separator/sorter. The final stage was a line of women in hair nets watching as the processed nuts passed by on a conveyor belt. Those ladies only job was to pick out pieces of shells that made it past the sorter. One thing I found really interesting is that there is very little actual use for black walnuts. Nobody eats them raw. IIRC, they are used for just two things: baking into cakes/cookies/breads and including in ice cream. The hulls are used as an industrial abrasive. BTW, when a big tornado hit Stockton, Missouri, a few years ago, it took out Hammond's hull storage facility. The hulls were worthless as an industrial abrasive at that point because they were contaminated with debris. The electric co-ops took the bad hulls and burned them in a small power plant they used to operate in Chamois, turning the waste into electricity. I’ve been to Stockton a bunch. Used to hunt out that way. I have never been to the plant. It’s kind of turning into a fall thing for my son and I just like deer season. He has a bunch of places to hit this week he’s hoping to make $500 he has an old Ford tractor he wants to buy |
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Posted: 10/5/2021 7:39:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: $20/100 pounds. Highest price I’ve ever seen. Slow going up here. The hulling station said we were only the second people in all week. They did 60,000 pounds last year Ahhh, you post said "up $20/#", so I was thinking, up $20 from what original price?! They had a commercial on the local Mid MO network news this morning that also said $20. |
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Posted: 10/5/2021 7:42:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve been to Stockton a bunch. Used to hunt out that way. I have never been to the plant. It’s kind of turning into a fall thing for my son and I just like deer season. He has a bunch of places to hit this week he’s hoping to make $500 he has an old Ford tractor he wants to buy Kick ass. The payoff will make your back aches worth it! |
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Posted: 10/8/2021 9:35:13 PM EDT
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815 pounds tonight. The guy at the hulking station said the biggest load ever was 1200 pounds. Well the boy has a goal now. He wants the title of the biggest load
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Posted: 10/9/2021 6:45:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 815 pounds tonight. The guy at the hulking station said the biggest load ever was 1200 pounds. Well the boy has a goal now. He wants the title of the biggest load https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/230179/F912F5A2-48BC-4365-BCEB-015E791E01C4_jpe-2123179.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/230179/D42F97EB-F515-430B-A1CD-F55DD1731FB4_jpe-2123180.JPG LOL, that's probably over my career total! Question: Anyone else notice some trees have smaller walnuts? Both hill and nut. HUGE tree near me has tons of nuts, but all about 25-30% smaller than average. Same with the trees nearby. 1/4 mile away trees have normal sized ones. Small ones harder to crack and yield less too. |
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Posted: 10/10/2021 8:30:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Driving range golf ball picker-upper attachment. Saw one in use awhile back. Had a full , small mesh cage on it, guy was running it WHILE folks were Teeing off on him, lol. Small, relatively inexpensive  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/10/2021 10:01:31 AM EDT
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That would work pretty good. Maybe get one section and mount in the front of a riding mower
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Posted: 10/11/2021 2:17:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone who picks up walnuts is bad at math in my opinion. Back when gas was $4 a gallon I saw a man and his wife picking up a pickup bed full of walnuts about 8 miles from town. They probably had 600 pounds after hulling so $78 at $13 per hundred. I bet they spent 6 hours and $10 in gas just getting them to town to sell them. So $68 for 12 man hours of work or $5.67 an hour. Literally anything besides picking up cans along the highway pays better than that! Yes. It's not worth the money. But if you have to pick them up out of your yard anyway, you get a decent dinner out at least.
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Posted: 10/11/2021 2:18:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP, what do you plan to do with them? Grandpa had a few black walnut tree's on the farm. My aunt's and uncles all absolutely hated them(of course, the trees were right next to the house and driveway). I grabbed some of the walnuts last time I was down there and have been thinking about trying to plant them for my homestead. Everyone is telling me I'm crazy, but I kinda think it would be a fun reminder of my childhood. Of course, I'm not planting them anywhere near my house. So, I've gotta figure out how to plant these. I think they have to go through a cold cycle. Throw them on the ground. They will germinate. Or dig a shallow hole, four inches deep or so, and shove the walnut in it. Do a few in case a squirrel gets a couple. The germination rate on black walnuts is insanely high. Ask me how I know.  |
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Posted: 10/11/2021 2:22:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can we get more pics of that operation? Curious what the elevator feeds in to. Thanks @sigpros I also have photos of the huller working, and the inside. It's a bunch of chains that beat back and forth. If @sigpros doesn't get photos, I'll see if I can find mine, but I think they're on another computer. |
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Posted: 10/11/2021 2:23:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ahhh, you post said "up $20/#", so I was thinking, up $20 from what original price?! They had a commercial on the local Mid MO network news this morning that also said $20. I think it was $15 here last year. But my trees did not bear this year. I doubt there are even enough for squirrels to eat, so we will be buying corn this winter I guess. 
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Posted: 10/11/2021 2:25:48 PM EDT
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I do something a little different with black walnuts. Each year around June, I go and collect soft green ones and make nocino.
     Here is one of this years batch almost 4 months later. Normally ready around christmas for a tasty spicy digestif 
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Posted: 10/11/2021 3:50:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it was $15 here last year. But my trees did not bear this year. I doubt there are even enough for squirrels to eat, so we will be buying corn this winter I guess. That's interesting. I'm in Hardin Co, KY. The two walnut trees in my back yard are absolutely loaded. |
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Posted: 10/11/2021 8:30:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Throw them on the ground. They will germinate. Or dig a shallow hole, four inches deep or so, and shove the walnut in it. Do a few in case a squirrel gets a couple. The germination rate on black walnuts is insanely high. Ask me how I know. How do you know?  Plant them in the hull? Or just the nut? I've generally ignored them because animals get to the walnuts first, and I never saw very many. I picked up about 50 this year. I'm only seeing one, maybe two walnut trees. I'd love to get more started. |
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Posted: 10/12/2021 7:57:42 AM EDT
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A gal I work with helps her twin 10 year old nephews pick walnuts every year. So far this year she said that they have hauled in a 950# load and a 1160# load. The boy's goal is enough money to buy a pair of calves they can show at the local fair.
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Posted: 10/13/2021 7:09:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's interesting. I'm in Hardin Co, KY. The two walnut trees in my back yard are absolutely loaded. I have found (and my mom and dad said also) that Black Walnut trees are individuals. Not all bear every year. Not all bear good nuts. Some bear good nuts some years, and the next year they are watery, and the old timers around me never were able to correlate it with weather, and that was with 100 years of experience. I have read the science about that, but not sure the science always yields a better tasting nut. I dunno. Not dissing science at all, since that's kinda what I do, but just sayin. I have one tree in my yard that bore heavily this year, and the others did not. Last year I picked up a trailer load out from under one big old tree, and all the others were loaded too. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 7:10:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How do you know? Plant them in the hull? Or just the nut? I've generally ignored them because animals get to the walnuts first, and I never saw very many. I picked up about 50 this year. I'm only seeing one, maybe two walnut trees. I'd love to get more started. I've dumped them out on the ground thinking I'd be okay and had a forest. If you have a lot of squirrels, bury extra. The hull doesn't matter in my experience.  You do want to make sure you pick up and plant nuts from a tree that bears good tasting nuts. The size of the hull does not always mean smaller nuts, or smaller meats. Sometimes it's just a thin hull. Sometimes that's tree dependent. Sometimes I think it's weather. ETA: I'm not sure where you're located. I suppose the uber-high germination rate could be due to my location. 63" of annual rainfall, and decent humidity. I just realized you may not have that. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 7:15:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I do something a little different with black walnuts. Each year around June, I go and collect soft green ones and make nocino. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/349595/image000001-2126255.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/349595/image000002-2126254.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/349595/image000004-2126253.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/349595/image000006-2126252.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/349595/image000009-2126251.jpg Here is one of this years batch almost 4 months later. Normally ready around christmas for a tasty spicy digestif https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/349595/20211011_142453-2126257.jpg So it's black walnut vodka? That green hull has got to make an interesting flavor. I'd like to try that. I don't do vodka as a rule but I might, for this. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 7:24:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So it's black walnut vodka? That green hull has got to make an interesting flavor. I'd like to try that. I don't do vodka as a rule but I might, for this. Little crazier than that. Young walnuts. Have to be harvested mid June before the inner nut starts to really form. Vanilla bean Cinnamon Cloves Cardamom Lemon or orange peel Sugar And whatever herbs and spices you like It just taste like winter to me. It's warming and flavorful. Super enjoyable to just sip after dinner |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 7:47:26 PM EDT
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Got three of them in my yard. Two inside the dog pen (good sized dog pen). Provide lots of shade for the dogs all summer. In a bad mast year there are usually lots of walnuts inside the pen. Funny to watch the squirrels come up from the woods, sit there in the grass watching to make sure the dogs are asleep and getting a big walnut to take out to eat. Funny you ask? For some reason the will go through the fence to get into the pen. Once they grab the nut the run up the fence wire and go over the top to get out of the pen. The damn nut is about the size of their head but they act like it's so big it won't fit through the fence.
Sometimes the dogs wake up. Sometimes the squirrel gets to a walnut tree and escapes, sort of. Every now and then they don't get to a tree in time. My dogs have never been hunting dogs so they don't eat them. They just kill them and leave them in the dirt till I come out, pick the dead squirrel up and toss it in the trash. My dad liked them. He would always pick some up, take them home, crack them open and dig out the nuts so his mom (and then later my mom) could bake him a cake with black walnuts in it. As kids we'd use bricks to bust the hulls off them and then set them aside to dry. I stained a bench with "real" black walnut stain when I was a kid. Soaked the hulls in a small bucket of water for several days and let the water get darker and darker. Then I wiped a few coats of the "stain" over the wood till it was dark enough to suit me. My mom still has that bench. She puts her feet up on it when she sits in her rocker by the wood stove in the living room. I made it in 1970. My mom, what can I say. |
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Posted: 10/25/2021 7:29:01 PM EDT
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only a few more days until the traditional day to filter off and bottle the noccino. It always smells incredible and you get to siphon off a taste or two
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Posted: 10/26/2021 7:55:35 PM EDT
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wait.... People buy these? I have dozens of black walnut trees in my yard and around my land.. I would gladly let someone come pick my yard, I just mulch them with my mower and replace the blades and spindles on my mower every fall lol...
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Posted: 10/26/2021 8:44:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: only a few more days until the traditional day to filter off and bottle the noccino. It always smells incredible and you get to siphon off a taste or two I really want to try this. Black Walnut hull--that acrid, sharp scent, is my favorite smell in the world, partly because of the associations of growing up with these trees, and with my parents spending so much time every year cracking and picking out the nutmeats. It was a tradition, and if you ever want to know whether you're loved, all you have to get for Christmas is a full quart jar of the nuts. My mom was very good at getting them out in large pieces. SOMETIMES even whole (though that was rare). She knew just how long to let them lay before cracking. You don't want to wait too long or the water content gets off. Anyway, the last ten years of my life (up until she died) I got a quart jar of walnuts for Christmas from my mom. Each of four children got one. It was priceless to me because of the time and love put into it. And I don't like fudge, but Mom's Sour Cream Black Walnut fudge is my favorite candy. I haven't had it in a few years, and I need to make it before I forget how. So yeah...I love that smell for a lot of reasons.
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Posted: 10/26/2021 8:45:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: wait.... People buy these? I have dozens of black walnut trees in my yard and around my land.. I would gladly let someone come pick my yard, I just mulch them with my mower and replace the blades and spindles on my mower every fall lol... Price a tiny bag of black walnut kernels in the grocery store and you will begin to understand.
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Posted: 10/27/2021 7:49:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Price a tiny bag of black walnut kernels in the grocery store and you will begin to understand. So........ I’m rich? |
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Posted: 10/27/2021 7:59:12 PM EDT
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Stupid squirrels... I got some survey flags today to mark where I had planted the walnuts. I had put 4 to 6 in each hole. Looks like the squirrels found them all. I just kicked dirt back in the hole. Hopefully I'll find out they missed a few next year. Stupid squirrels...
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