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I looked into this at my last house since we had a large wooded property in the back. I just didn't go through with it. I did read up on it quite a bit. Keep us posted I'd like to track your progress as it sounds like a cool project.
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My daughter got a bag of Lion's Mane for Christmas that she has fruiting now.
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I got some free Ponderosa logs in various sizes; they good for anything in the mushroom department?
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I've always wanted to start a mushroom farm in my garage. They're like eggs to me - I could eat them every day.
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I bought and planted some Morel spawn this fall and did up a small area in the edge of the woods. Maybe 20 sq ft.
I have thought about growing mushrooms. I have 20 acres of hardwoods. What put me off was all info I looked at said use Oak for logs. I don't have any Oak available. Lots Hickory and Sugar Maple tho. Does OP grow for his own use or sale? I'd grow for small amount of personal use but would primarily grow for sale. So any wisdom on growing for sale would be of interest. |
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Quoted: I bought and planted some Morel spawn this fall and did up a small area in the edge of the woods. Maybe 20 sq ft. I have thought about growing mushrooms. I have 20 acres of hardwoods. What put me off was all info I looked at said use Oak for logs. I don't have any Oak available. Lots Hickory and Sugar Maple tho. Does OP grow for his own use or sale? I'd grow for small amount of personal use but would primarily grow for sale. So any wisdom on growing for sale would be of interest. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: I bought and planted some Morel spawn this fall and did up a small area in the edge of the woods. Maybe 20 sq ft. I have thought about growing mushrooms. I have 20 acres of hardwoods. What put me off was all info I looked at said use Oak for logs. I don't have any Oak available. Lots Hickory and Sugar Maple tho. Does OP grow for his own use or sale? I'd grow for small amount of personal use but would primarily grow for sale. So any wisdom on growing for sale would be of interest. Plenty of wood species will work fine. Here's an example of wood for Shitake. If I buy plugs I get them from here Grows on: Hardwood logs outdoors: oak, pecan, walnut, alder, sweet gum, maple, ironwood, hophorn beam, cherry, sycamore, tulip poplar, eucalyptus, chestnut, ash, birch, bitternut, willow. Avoid for shiitake: conifers, fruit trees, elm, hackberry, sassafras, soft maples (red and striped), dogwood, black locust, beech, hickory I grow for myself and if/when I have extra we share/barter with friends. So any wisdom on growing for sale would be of interest. Go to your local farmers market and see what's available and how much it sales for. If it were me I'd offer to grow for someone whos currently selling and let them deal with the retail. I have the space and the trees to put in a real farm here but I'm not interested in an active mushroom farm where you are having to force fruiting etc. |
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Saturday the 16ths inoculation day was canceled, I had 2000 plugs get contaminated. I ordered 1k wide range shitake and 1k brown oysters to be rush delivered before saturday. I'll try and get some pics of the inoculation.
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Quoted: I bought and planted some Morel spawn this fall and did up a small area in the edge of the woods. Maybe 20 sq ft. I have thought about growing mushrooms. I have 20 acres of hardwoods. What put me off was all info I looked at said use Oak for logs. I don't have any Oak available. Lots Hickory and Sugar Maple tho. Does OP grow for his own use or sale? I'd grow for small amount of personal use but would primarily grow for sale. So any wisdom on growing for sale would be of interest. View Quote I have successfully propagated big blondes from spore slurry and strategic sites, but even so the quantity and reliability just isn't there. Maybe you will fair better. Consider chanterelles too, I've had better luck with them. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I got some free Ponderosa logs in various sizes; they good for anything in the mushroom department? not many choice edibles grow on pine. This. Most of the great ones grow on deciduous woods, but this of course isn't sufficient in and of itself for determining toxicity and species identification, liability exclaimer etc. I can only think of one speculative possibility for your pine option off the top of my head: a variant of chicken of the forest. (Not maitake/hen of the woods). There are variants growing on hardwoods and soft woods, but some people do react to the ones grown from conifers. Laetiporus conifericola We grow shiitake and pohu oysters here, and forage for numerous others. Hoping to scale up the endeavor this year and add lion's mane to the mix, and some reishi. |
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OK, to me this is a new thing. I have no experience. It seems fairly easy and something that I can control, unlike foraging for some and never knowing what I will get.
Do you guys have deer damage? I have woods behind me and access to logs and shade. I will read up on this.... |
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Quoted: OK, to me this is a new thing. I have no experience. It seems fairly easy and something that I can control, unlike foraging for some and never knowing what I will get. Do you guys have deer damage? I have woods behind me and access to logs and shade. I will read up on this.... View Quote I have heards of deer go through my property. They never touch a thing as far as mushrooms go. Everything else is fair game! With mushrooms, you have a day of two of hard work - cutting the logs, inoculating, etc - after that it’s just harvesting. |
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This thread really interests me.
Tag for info. I’ve always been scared of wild mushrooms. Never once picked any, ID’s them and eaten them. They grow in our cow manure like crazy every year. I don’t even know if they are the “good kind”. |
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Two guys, 2k plugs and ~4 hours nets us 20 logs of shitake and 20 logs of brown oyster. Pics tomorrow.
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Quoted: OK, to me this is a new thing. I have no experience. It seems fairly easy and something that I can control, unlike foraging for some and never knowing what I will get. Do you guys have deer damage? I have woods behind me and access to logs and shade. I will read up on this.... View Quote Deer leave ours alone, but occassionally you'll get little black slugs putting holes through. There's definitely a harvest window before they get bugged out. Squirrels are known to stash mushrooms in trees but I've never seen one loot the innoculated logs before. |
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Those are massive. Do you use a crane to lift them for forced innoculation?
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Quoted: Here’s a shot of the logs full of plugs and a shot of the total haul for the day. I’ll split these with my buddy who helped. Another 10 Shitakes and 10 brown oysters for the garden. I still have a hundred or so plugs of each left over too. https://i.imgur.com/hcwnNw9.jpg https://i.imgur.com/36lxU0w.jpg View Quote One thing I noted, and will make it a habit from here on out - with new logs, prior to inoculation I power wash the logs off. It seems to cut down on some of the polypore mushroom infestation further down the line. |
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Ahh my bad eyes then. I thought I was seeing 10"+ diameters.
We had a hell of a dry spell last summer and found that dunking logs in the brook over night made a difference. Granted, my brother and I are noobies at this. Just about to enter our third year of the mycology experiments. |
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Quoted: I have heards of deer go through my property. They never touch a thing as far as mushrooms go. Everything else is fair game! With mushrooms, you have a day of two of hard work - cutting the logs, inoculating, etc - after that it’s just harvesting. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: OK, to me this is a new thing. I have no experience. It seems fairly easy and something that I can control, unlike foraging for some and never knowing what I will get. Do you guys have deer damage? I have woods behind me and access to logs and shade. I will read up on this.... I have heards of deer go through my property. They never touch a thing as far as mushrooms go. Everything else is fair game! With mushrooms, you have a day of two of hard work - cutting the logs, inoculating, etc - after that it’s just harvesting. Waiting is hard work... |
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What about sycamore? Good for anything? I'll have to start stealing the neighbors' trees if this also won't work, lol.
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Do you seal the ends of the logs with wax also?
I tried this a few years ago with some fresh cut red oak, and got zero germination from the plugs. I live in a "holler" with lots of ferns, moss etc, so they should have done well. I was wondering if I ruined it by leaving the log ends exposed. |
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I do not seal the ends of my shitake logs and they do fine. I've read not to use fresh cut logs... they need to "age" 7 weeks because there is some natural anti-fungal in the green logs that needs to age out.
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Quoted: I do not seal the ends of my shitake logs and they do fine. I've read not to use fresh cut logs... they need to "age" 7 weeks because there is some natural anti-fungal in the green logs that needs to age out. View Quote and my dude says you need to get them before that because you start to run the risk of wild inoculation. |
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Quoted: Do you seal the ends of the logs with wax also? I tried this a few years ago with some fresh cut red oak, and got zero germination from the plugs. I live in a "holler" with lots of ferns, moss etc, so they should have done well. I was wondering if I ruined it by leaving the log ends exposed. View Quote I always seal mine up. |
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View Quote Very nice! It was 30 degrees here today. I don’t think I’ll see any shiitakes for a few more weeks. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Do you seal the ends of the logs with wax also? I tried this a few years ago with some fresh cut red oak, and got zero germination from the plugs. I live in a "holler" with lots of ferns, moss etc, so they should have done well. I was wondering if I ruined it by leaving the log ends exposed. I always seal mine up. same. |
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Quoted: What about sycamore? Good for anything? I'll have to start stealing the neighbors' trees if this also won't work, lol. View Quote The chart at this link is pretty good guidance: https://www.fieldforest.net/category/growing-outdoors#logs |
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I don't really cultivate intensively, but I encourage some wine caps that started showing up under and around my deck after a load of mulch a couple years ago.
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Quoted: The chart at this link is pretty good guidance: https://www.fieldforest.net/category/growing-outdoors#logs View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: What about sycamore? Good for anything? I'll have to start stealing the neighbors' trees if this also won't work, lol. The chart at this link is pretty good guidance: https://www.fieldforest.net/category/growing-outdoors#logs Boo. Well, I guess I just need to steal some limbs from a neighbor's oak... |
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