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Posted: 1/21/2009 10:30:10 AM EDT
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I bought a mossy 500 at a police auction about 30 years ago for $20. It was a real beater at the time. I cut the long 28" barrel down to 20" and used it for years to hunt with and for home protection. When Ebay popped up, it was easy to find stocks, bbls scope mounts and such at cheap prices. I got a 18" slug bbl, a 22" multi choke barrel and even a black powder barrel off of ebay cheap. Not to mention stocks and such. That one gun has killed, game birds, turkeys and deer and sits in my closet with an 18" bbl. I even carried it in the trunk at times when I was working various security jobs.
It is well worn and beat to shit but still works. In fact my son killed a deer with it this past fall. |
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Posted: 1/21/2009 11:43:29 AM EDT
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If you shop around you can find some good buys on used shotgons. I have picked up several over the years costing from $125 to $225. The latest project shotgun will be a M37 Ithatica (spelling
 ). None of my shotguns have a barrel longer than 24 inches. A couple are set up as tactical riot guns. Some are just 5 shot with bead sight on the barrel. I think its a must to have at least one in your home for protection. I like a side saddle for a few extra rounds to have with your shotgun. Better to have and not need than to need and not have. I have 3 double barrel, 5 pumps, and 1 auto just to cover all the bases. 
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Posted: 1/21/2009 1:50:35 PM EDT
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my favorite shotgun . a mossberg12 guage 500 with a 20 inch vent rib barrel and accu chokes . I have used this gun a bunch as you can see the blue wore off the slide and tube area . I thought about getting a specific home defense shotgun but this one just seems to hit what I point it at . mr gobbler in the picture caught a head full of number 4 copper coated 3inch mag bbs at 45 yds . when hunting season is over the plug comes out and it rest under the bed . you might consider something like this as it gives you the option to use different chokes for hunting , it never hurts to have options. http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f247/jwb47/turkey1.jpg I really liked the thought of that 20" Accu-Choke barrel. Looks like it could really do everything. |
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Posted: 1/21/2009 2:00:38 PM EDT
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I got a nice 870 express i'll do ya good deal on..
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Posted: 1/21/2009 2:15:41 PM EDT
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In pump guns I personally prefer the Winchester (FN now) smoother action imo. Im a 1300 guy myself, turning my slug gun into a hi speed/low drag scattergun at the moment. Since "they" are turning this into a pic show off your shotgun thread 
I bought this 20 ga 1300 for my 4yo daughter the other day i'll have it housegunerized by the time she gets big enough to handle it / moves out 
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h54/acman145acp/004-19.jpg Mine.....
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h54/acman145acp/fnshotty.jpg http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h54/acman145acp/shotgun.jpg Heres mine with fresh krylon from last night.
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Posted: 1/21/2009 3:15:06 PM EDT
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In pump guns I personally prefer the Winchester (FN now) smoother action imo. Im a 1300 guy myself, turning my slug gun into a hi speed/low drag scattergun at the moment. Since "they" are turning this into a pic show off your shotgun thread
I bought this 20 ga 1300 for my 4yo daughter the other day i'll have it housegunerized by the time she gets big enough to handle it / moves out
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h54/acman145acp/004-19.jpg Mine.....
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h54/acman145acp/fnshotty.jpg http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h54/acman145acp/shotgun.jpg Heres mine with fresh krylon from last night.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/nf9648/DSC01425.jpg Looks good man. 
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Posted: 1/21/2009 6:21:43 PM EDT
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I'm curious - why are SHTF rifles autoloaders, but SHTF shotguns are pumps? If you don't spending a few extra bucks, you could buy a shotgun that was both auto and pump. My Benelli M3 Super 90 on the bottom: 
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Posted: 1/22/2009 6:35:24 PM EDT
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I'm curious - why are SHTF rifles autoloaders, but SHTF shotguns are pumps? I think the "general" thought is autoladers were more prone to malfunctions when it comes to scaterguns..... I've had a Benelli SBE for around 8 years. It has never hiccoughed once. A number of the estancias in Argentina stock them for high volume dove shoots due to their reliability and ease of cleaning. It's full of #1 buckshot at the moment in my bedroom. |
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Posted: 1/23/2009 3:52:43 AM EDT
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sorry for the lousy pics, i only have the camera on my cell phone but... i actully agree with what TJ and JBlitzen both said, the safety arguement isn't really a big deal at all, and it's still easy to manipulate after adding a pistol grip stock. though for a homedefense shotgun, i leave mine loaded but not chambered. it's one step easier than tap, rack, bang, and i never have to worry about forgetting to remove the safety... i currently have a pair of these(two is 1, and all that), i paid iirc $225 and $245 respectivelly, and i know dealer at the time was $219. the 6pos stocks, stock shell hollders, and light mounts, are ati brand(they're ok but damn sure not knox stock and surefire quality) sidesaddle's are tacstar brand and work very well. i plan to swap out the cheapy garrity brand light for somethinga little better at some point. the sling is idf carbine inspired and made of a u.s.g.i. general purpose strap with the buckles cut off and paracord simple, cheap, and damn rugged... http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g65/jasonkirby/1110080845.jpg i also had a 3rd but it was blued, not parkerised like the oneabove, and her twin. i sold it to a friend, he liked the way mine were set up so much that he built the one i sold him just the same. i believe this is a pic of it... http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g65/jasonkirby/Picture001-1.jpg here is a pic of my first mossberg pump, though it usually wore a butler creek metal frame side folding stock and rode in my trunk... http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g65/jasonkirby/shotgun.jpg i also sold this one to another friend, it now looks much the same as the 20" 7+1 persuader... i copied and posted this directly from the mossberg site, don't know if it'll tell you anything you'd like to know or not but here it is and it includes the m.s.r.p. SPECIAL PURPOSE SHOTGUN - 500® PERSUADER®/CRUISER® - 6 SHOT 6 SHOT 50411 12 3" INCLUDES PISTOL GRIP KIT 6 18 1/2" BEAD CYLINDER BORE 39 1/2" 14 1/2" 1 1/2" 2 1/8" BLUE SYNTHETIC (BLACK) 6 3/4 LBS $404.00 6 SHOT CRUISER 50440 12 3" HEAT SHIELD INSTALLED, PISTOL GRIP ONLY 6 18 1/2" BEAD CYLINDER BORE 28 3/4" - - - BLUE SYNTHETIC (BLACK) 5 3/4 LBS $404.00 6 SHOT CRUISER 50450 20 3" PISTOL GRIP ONLY 6 18 1/2" BEAD CYLINDER BORE 28" - - - BLUE SYNTHETIC (BLACK) 5 1/2 LBS $389.00 6 SHOT 50452 20 3" INCLUDES PISTOL GRIP KIT 6 18 1/2" BEAD CYLINDER BORE 38 1/2" 14" 1 1/2" 2 1/2" BLUE SYNTHETIC (BLACK) 6 1/2 LBS $404.00 6 SHOT CRUISER 50455 .410 3" PISTOL GRIP ONLY 6 18 1/2" BEAD CYLINDER BORE 29 1/2" - - - BLUE SYNTHETIC (BLACK) 5 1/2 LBS $389.00 SPECIAL PURPOSE SHOTGUN - 500® PERSUADER®/CRUISER® - 8 SHOT 8 SHOT 50577 12 3" BEAD SIGHT 8 20" BEAD CYLINDER BORE 41" 14 1/2" 1 1/2" 2 1/8" BLUE SYNTHETIC (BLACK) 7 LBS $389.00 8 SHOT 50579 12 3" INCLUDES PISTOL GRIP KIT 8 20" BEAD CYLINDER BORE 41" 14 1/2" 1 1/2" 2 1/8" BLUE SYNTHETIC (BLACK) 7 LBS $404.00 8 SHOT CRUISER 50580 12 3" HEAT SHIELD INSTALLED, PISTOL GRIP ONLY 8 20" BEAD CYLINDER BORE 30 1/4" - - - BLUE SYNTHETIC (BLACK) 6 LBS $404.00 and just to add some more shotgun porn here's a NEF single barrel i cut down to 18.25" and tricked out for a cheapy truck gun, after getting my pickup. ended up selling this to yet another friend, as a birthday present for his father... http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g65/jasonkirby/shotgun1.jpg any of this help answer your quastions? is there anything i can help you with, or any other questions i may be able to answer for you? Where are you guys getting the side saddle shell holders? Thanks, Merlin |
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Posted: 1/23/2009 1:35:50 PM EDT
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merlin, both of mine are tacstar brand, not the highest speed lowest drag most enpensive unit on the market i'm sure but i have head really good luck and use out of mine and am very happy with them. i purchased my first shell holder at a gun show, the second i think i remember picking up from here, at galati international, and cheapterthandirt.com has carried the tacstar brand in the past but i believe now carries the cheaper(in price and probabally quality) leapers brand... a quick google search of the terms "tacstar, or any other manufacturer you wish to go with", and "sidesaddle", accompanied by your personal "make of shotgun", should produce results, then just figure out wich sites have the best prices and reputation and you're set... hope this helps!.. K. |
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Posted: 1/23/2009 4:57:03 PM EDT
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Kar, yes it does, thanks!
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Posted: 1/23/2009 5:01:35 PM EDT
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I'm curious - why are SHTF rifles autoloaders, but SHTF shotguns are pumps? I think the "general" thought is autoladers were more prone to malfunctions when it comes to scaterguns..... I've had a Benelli SBE for around 8 years. It has never hiccoughed once. A number of the estancias in Argentina stock them for high volume dove shoots due to their reliability and ease of cleaning. It's full of #1 buckshot at the moment in my bedroom. So you disagree that’s the reason lots of people chose a pump for defence? That’s about the only reason I’ve ever really heard given……. eta well maybe price among some but not for the gun nuts I never said I didn’t like auto shotguns got enough to prove diffrent 
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Posted: 1/24/2009 7:17:59 PM EDT
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I've followed this thread since the start. I'm primarily a Mossberg 500 fan. However, I was in a small outdoor/fishing/hunting/gun shop today and saw a Browning BPS with a 7 shot extended tube. It has the bottom eject just like the old Ithaca 37's. I didn't measure it but I'd say it was 18.5 -20 inches. It had the tang mounted safety like the Mossbergs.
The only thing thought should be changed was that it only had a silver bead for a sight. I'd love to have something like that with a ghost ring rear sight and a tritium front sight. They wanted $440 for it which seems pretty fair for a Browning. Any thoughts on this for home defense and where I might find sights that would work on it. John PS: Saw a Benelli Nova with ghost ring sights at Gander Mountain for $399 but it was only a 4 round tube. I understand being a foreign-made shotgun that you can't put an extended tube on it. |
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Posted: 1/25/2009 9:12:21 PM EDT
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If you have a mossberg with a plastic safety, they are prone to break. When it does, you will lose small parts and jam up the gun. I think Brownells sell a metal replacement. I found out about this when mine broke, before I lost it in an unfortunate financial accident.
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Posted: 1/26/2009 4:23:26 AM EDT
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Remington 870 Express with a Choate magazine extension for me. No folding or pistol grip stocks for this old Fudd. Just doesn't point as well for me as a traditional shotgun stock. Also, given the low magazine capacity of a shotgun the ability to butt stroke someone is a plus.
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Posted: 1/26/2009 11:13:20 AM EDT
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Not trying to bag on one or the other but I shoot shotguns alot and both my mossbergs have had failures involving the ejector screw letting go and having to beat the guns open in the field (835 and a 500) a drop of locktite fixes the problem but with 870's i have never had a issue. I do not own ether mossy now
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Posted: 1/26/2009 11:48:35 AM EDT
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Not trying to bag on one or the other but I shoot shotguns alot and both my mossbergs have had failures involving the ejector screw letting go and having to beat the guns open in the field (835 and a 500) a drop of locktite fixes the problem but with 870's i have never had a issue. I do not own ether mossy now Now that you mention it I have seen that exact problem happen as well. A friend bought a brand new in the box Model 500 and the ejector screw broke off the first time he used it. He took it back to the shop and exchanged it for an 870. |
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