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30-cal ammo cans are wonderful little containers. Airtight so they can store things like gold, silver, and cash indefinitely.
There are lots of places in a house to hide stuff that a burglar will not find unless they are really dedicated to the task and have a lot of time or insider info. The rafters of your house. If you have a messy garage, put it near the bottom in a big pile of junk (just don't forget it's there!). Under the house is a great option, too, especially if you have a small crawl space, not many folks are going to break into a house and go for the crawl space. If you're decent with texturing and paint, you can take a piece out of a wall, put the goods inside the wall and seal it back up. No one's going to find it there, of course, you'd have to tear up the wall to get to it. Heck, you could even dig a nice deep hole in the yard. Small fireproof safes are a good option if you're worried about house fires (but even most of those are only going to last 30 minutes in a blaze). I had a grandmother who hid several thousand dollars in the cushions of her couch. Not a bright place to hide it, if you ask me, if I were a burglar and had a few minutes, I'd definitely tear into the furniture with a knife, it's too obvious... Just need to get creative. Much of the time, something small that's well hidden is much safer from threats than anything in a safe bolted to the floor. The two big questions you need to ask are: 1) how safe does it need to be and 2) how quickly will I eventually need to get to it? The answers to that will guide what you do. |
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For those that keep liquid cash on hand, how do you store it? The reason Im asking is because I want to do this but am worried someone will break in and steal it or there will be a fire. Only other option is a fireproof safe right? The thing is the safe could get stolen too. Do they make very small fireproof safes so that I can hide it better? Let me know what you do. in my fire lined 700lbs gun safe that is bolted to the floor. Been putting $100 a pay check for about the past 3 years. J- TomJefferson's post is very important. You just admitted to having over $15,000 in your home safe on the internet. [rest of it redacted] Well that was a downright creepy lesson that should have been delivered in private, instead of broadcast. Two wrongs certainly don 't make it right. |
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Quoted: In-slab safe is my favorite. http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/public/3BwM1jU3qZuZ_QeS3X96P6NHPQW8FCOpeXQHXe3VZyJ1_qnVcEBG927S4ate1n6u-GQej-9ZLDQtA_7ms425EX8ejKU3UIC6w1-vNM_0c92EcrORZWJj_e-NyU8j––vDamzc9sq8q4Kz5UmhBtoLtViaWA_9QqbR1gdQJ9af8rERSJkONPOtdgZofK0NnoPgMbON0B71rPN1Sqf-jIm9lagS Let them beat on the obvious firearms safe. Put a bit of cash in there and let them think they found the treasure. I like the idea of the caches inside the house like inside doors and false outlets, but am quite concerned that a house fire would take those goods. The problem with what most have posted here is that, well, most have posted it. In other words, thieves know to look there. A decent thief reading this thread would pop open ever single outlet (which isn't hard to do if you don't care about breaking stuff) and dump out every bit of flour and tupperware in the house. The trick is to find places that are too hard to get to and/or not commonly posted on internet forums |
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http://www.tulving.com/bullion/CanadianMapleLeaf2008tube20.jpg + http://www.thegreenhead.com/imgs/hidden-wall-safe-electrical-outlet-1.jpg That receptacle safe has very bad reviews. It stands out and doesn't match the other receptacles in your house either. For $5 you can make your own as illustrated earlier in the thread. |
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For those that keep liquid cash on hand, how do you store it? The reason Im asking is because I want to do this but am worried someone will break in and steal it or there will be a fire. Only other option is a fireproof safe right? The thing is the safe could get stolen too. Do they make very small fireproof safes so that I can hide it better? Let me know what you do. in my fire lined 700lbs gun safe that is bolted to the floor. Been putting $100 a pay check for about the past 3 years. J- TomJefferson's post is very important. You just admitted to having over $15,000 in your home safe on the internet. [rest of it redacted] Well that was a downright creepy lesson that should have been delivered in private, instead of broadcast. Two wrongs certainly don 't make it right. If I delivered it in private, how would anyone else learn from it??? The person it was aimed at doesn't mind and chose to leave it out in public, so you and the other guy who called me a Dick should keep your judgments to yourself. |
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I keep a case of Vodka in the secure ammo storage - liquid cash.
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a fire has to be insanely hot to mess up a good floor safe......when working to help a buddy clean up from a fire......when we got to the basement.....he started laughing.....the floor safe contents were unharmed....inclusive of about $10k in cash and a few gold and silver bars.
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A new take on a classic... What about inside the matress of a sleeper sofa? I've never seen or heard of someone looking there... Under cousins yes in backings yes but never in folding matress itself.
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I guess the best way would be to think like a criminal and think about where you would look for cash and then hide it somewhere good. I think you'll have to be creative. And also I think that having multiple locations is optimal that way he doesnt find the mother load of cash.
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For those that keep liquid cash on hand, how do you store it? The reason Im asking is because I want to do this but am worried someone will break in and steal it or there will be a fire. Only other option is a fireproof safe right? The thing is the safe could get stolen too. Do they make very small fireproof safes so that I can hide it better? Let me know what you do. in my fire lined 700lbs gun safe that is bolted to the floor. Been putting $100 a pay check for about the past 3 years. J- TomJefferson's post is very important. You just admitted to having over $15,000 in your home safe on the internet. [rest of it redacted] Well that was a downright creepy lesson that should have been delivered in private, instead of broadcast. Two wrongs certainly don 't make it right. If I delivered it in private, how would anyone else learn from it??? The person it was aimed at doesn't mind and chose to leave it out in public, so you and the other guy who called me a Dick should keep your judgments to yourself. sure sure, your motives are pure and make a lovely overcloak. /and for the record, I didn't call you anything. |
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For those that keep liquid cash on hand, how do you store it? The reason Im asking is because I want to do this but am worried someone will break in and steal it or there will be a fire. Only other option is a fireproof safe right? The thing is the safe could get stolen too. Do they make very small fireproof safes so that I can hide it better? Let me know what you do. in my fire lined 700lbs gun safe that is bolted to the floor. Been putting $100 a pay check for about the past 3 years. J- TomJefferson's post is very important. You just admitted to having over $15,000 in your home safe on the internet. [rest of it redacted] Well that was a downright creepy lesson that should have been delivered in private, instead of broadcast. Two wrongs certainly don 't make it right. If I delivered it in private, how would anyone else learn from it??? The person it was aimed at doesn't mind and chose to leave it out in public, so you and the other guy who called me a Dick should keep your judgments to yourself. sure sure, your motives are pure and make a lovely overcloak. /and for the record, I didn't call you anything. So now you are saying my motives are malicious?? |
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When we built the house the plumber built in a false cleanout access for the main soil pipe before the floor was poured. He just did it as a bonus. It is easily opened with the 1" square drive tool designed for it and a pita if you don't have the tool. Just a 4" brass floor plug along with the rest of the plumbing at the service entrance.
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For those that keep liquid cash on hand, how do you store it? The reason Im asking is because I want to do this but am worried someone will break in and steal it or there will be a fire. Only other option is a fireproof safe right? The thing is the safe could get stolen too. Do they make very small fireproof safes so that I can hide it better? Let me know what you do. in my fire lined 700lbs gun safe that is bolted to the floor. Been putting $100 a pay check for about the past 3 years. J- TomJefferson's post is very important. You just admitted to having over $15,000 $7800.00 in your home safe on the internet. You made yourself a target for someone in MI. Simple searching shows that you are 38 years old, 6 foot tall and 215lbs, you are very busy with your job (police detective) so you probably aren't home much and sometimes you get called into work at night, you live in Ypsilanti, you drive an 04 Kia Sedone. Wow, I actually just got your name, address, and phone number too, all from a Google search of your username here. As soon as you see this I will edit all of it out of my post. I think you should edit your post as well, you can't be too careful. Even if someone's username isn't linked to their true name, it's not that hard to find out who you are or where you live. An example is using online purchasing. Someone could buy something that you are selling to get your address, or try to sell you something. Maybe they see you talking about a specific firearm and PM you with an offer for one at a great price. They could also pay off someone that you did business with in the past. You really have to be careful with what you admit to online. Not to split hairs, as I understand what you are saying but I fixed your op for ya, LMAO J- |
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Before I had a safe I kept my AR in a tennis racket soft case hanging on a coat rack, I got burgled and they passed it by, now I have a safe.
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I've heard of people also putting things in coat pockets in large closets. I have never put money away like that but I've lost stuff temporarily in coat pockets like that and finding them next season. (favorite pocket knife).
I've also heard of hanging smaller firearms on stout hangers and putting clothing over the top of it. It might work. I know my step father's shotgun made it through a house burglary in the corner of a closet my mom had packed waaaay overful. So full you had to really shove clothes back to pull an item out. Apparently it was too much for the thieves. Lost the rest of the guns out of a standard cheap pine and glass gun cabinet.......Arisaka bring back from his WW2 Naval service in the Pacific, 1930's winchester rifles (not carbines). |
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The thing to remember about any hiding or security place, its all about time. Any safe can be opened if one has enough time.
Unless a burglar is either high as a kite or thinks he has some reason to believe there's no way anyone saw him break in, he will try to hold his time to pretty close to police response times. Now that being said, he can do an amazing amount of hunting and finding in that ten to fifteen minutes. Most commons are in underwear drawers (behind the drawers for things taped), between bed mattresses or under the bed (simple throw it off look and look for holes or cuts into them), under tables (just chuck it over look and look for taped things), and especially in freezers a favorite hiding spot of pot smokers, which brings up fake cans which is another favorite hiding spot of druggies. Insulation pieces in say a closet with an attic door is like a big sign that says, "BINGO!" When figuring your hiding/safe times think rip and tear, not don't break and replace. That burglars going to rip things out and anything worth a quick knock over and fast look while walking by, "Why not?". Order of priority for them is drugs, cash, and then guns or pawn material. Time is what its all about and a better policy than a good safe or a good hiding place is deterrence. We often talk of dogs and alarms so I won't go there. Just as important if not more is not holding to a predictable schedule. Now, of course, we can't all manage to have someone home all the time but we can vary discretionary travel and make our places look like someone is there when we do leave. Christmas light timers, loud TVs, lights, having two cars alternation leaving one in the drive, you guys know all of these. What I can add is as you drive look at the houses you pass. Note the one's you can instantly go, "They're not home" just by looking. Don't be that guy. Next, get to know your neighbors. Advise them of your routines and get them use to looking after your place. Tell them when you leave and when you get back. Its a simple call and have them call you when something is different, anything. Thank them, even if its that's strange car is my sisters. This is the day of cells. If they can't reach you, advise them to call the police. Of all the people I have known who have been robbed, I'd say 80% were people who knew of them, not necessarily know them but know someone who knows them. Do with that information as you may but I find a Popeye approach, "I am who I am" and crazy Tj has a gun and damn sure will shoot you combined with he's tight as hell with his neighbors to work better than the "Hermit" in the city. If you are lucky enough to live in an area that crime is reported, use it regularly and tighten security as your risk increases. I practice all of these and then some. In 20 years almost all of my neighbors have been hit at least once. I haven't. I do it all from gun rep to three barking dogs and from security lights to making my place always look occupied. This last advice is the hardest for some people. Don't be the asshole. He's the one with the big target on his back that says "Rob Me". You don't have to be a push over just don't be mean and leave revenge to God. A polite man telling someone they're going to blow their friggen head off scares people way more than angry Joe. Tj |
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Living down in Miami taught me to always keep cash on hand.
I use a 1500 pound fire proof Ft. Knox safe. It is bolted to the slab,and to the wall studs. |
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Living down in Miami taught me to always keep cash on hand.
I use a 1500 pound fire proof Ft. Knox safe. It is bolted to the slab,and to the wall studs. |
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For those that keep liquid cash on hand, how do you store it? The reason Im asking is because I want to do this but am worried someone will break in and steal it or there will be a fire. Only other option is a fireproof safe right? The thing is the safe could get stolen too. Do they make very small fireproof safes so that I can hide it better? Let me know what you do. in my fire lined 700lbs gun safe that is bolted to the floor. Been putting $100 a pay check for about the past 3 years. J- TomJefferson's post is very important. You just admitted to having over $15,000 $7800.00 in your home safe on the internet. You made yourself a target for someone in MI. Simple searching shows that you are 38 years old, 6 foot tall and 215lbs, you are very busy with your job (police detective) so you probably aren't home much and sometimes you get called into work at night, you live in Ypsilanti, you drive an 04 Kia Sedone. Wow, I actually just got your name, address, and phone number too, all from a Google search of your username here. As soon as you see this I will edit all of it out of my post. I think you should edit your post as well, you can't be too careful. Even if someone's username isn't linked to their true name, it's not that hard to find out who you are or where you live. An example is using online purchasing. Someone could buy something that you are selling to get your address, or try to sell you something. Maybe they see you talking about a specific firearm and PM you with an offer for one at a great price. They could also pay off someone that you did business with in the past. You really have to be careful with what you admit to online. Not to split hairs, as I understand what you are saying but I fixed your op for ya, LMAO J- $100 X 52weeks = $5,200 X 3 years = $15,600 You didn't specify that you were paid every other week. It doesn't matter how much is there, it matters how much a thief thinks is there. |
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This isn't exactly what you are looking for but what about a safety deposit box? We keep some cash and guns in an 850lb gun safe at the house, but keep more "liquid" cash along with a few other things in a good sized safety deposit box at the local credit union. Costs about $75/year.
I know..its not really on hand. But I thought about it and decided the odds of an armed intruder breaking in and either somehow getting into the safe, or worse making my wife or myself open it if caught off guard, were much higher than the odds of the cu for some reason closing out of the blue or not letting me into my box. Not to mention the risk of fire and how well my "fire rated" safe would hold up. |
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For those that keep liquid cash on hand, how do you store it? The reason Im asking is because I want to do this but am worried someone will break in and steal it or there will be a fire. Only other option is a fireproof safe right? The thing is the safe could get stolen too. Do they make very small fireproof safes so that I can hide it better? Let me know what you do. in my fire lined 700lbs gun safe that is bolted to the floor. Been putting $100 a pay check for about the past 3 years. J- TomJefferson's post is very important. You just admitted to having over $15,000 $7800.00 in your home safe on the internet. You made yourself a target for someone in MI. Simple searching shows that you are 38 years old, 6 foot tall and 215lbs, you are very busy with your job (police detective) so you probably aren't home much and sometimes you get called into work at night, you live in Ypsilanti, you drive an 04 Kia Sedone. Wow, I actually just got your name, address, and phone number too, all from a Google search of your username here. As soon as you see this I will edit all of it out of my post. I think you should edit your post as well, you can't be too careful. Even if someone's username isn't linked to their true name, it's not that hard to find out who you are or where you live. An example is using online purchasing. Someone could buy something that you are selling to get your address, or try to sell you something. Maybe they see you talking about a specific firearm and PM you with an offer for one at a great price. They could also pay off someone that you did business with in the past. You really have to be careful with what you admit to online. Not to split hairs, as I understand what you are saying but I fixed your op for ya, LMAO J- $100 X 52weeks = $5,200 X 3 years = $15,600 You didn't specify that you were paid every other week. It doesn't matter how much is there, it matters how much a thief thinks is there. I put away 100 per pay check 52 week in a year, 26 pay periods a year, 2600 per yearx 3 years=7800. And thanks to you they think I have 15000.00, ooooooohhhhh i'm doomed, LMAO just kidding with ya. J- |
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For those that keep liquid cash on hand, how do you store it? The reason Im asking is because I want to do this but am worried someone will break in and steal it or there will be a fire. Only other option is a fireproof safe right? The thing is the safe could get stolen too. Do they make very small fireproof safes so that I can hide it better? Let me know what you do. in my fire lined 700lbs gun safe that is bolted to the floor. Been putting $100 a pay check for about the past 3 years. J- TomJefferson's post is very important. You just admitted to having over $15,000 $7800.00 in your home safe on the internet. You made yourself a target for someone in MI. Simple searching shows that you are 38 years old, 6 foot tall and 215lbs, you are very busy with your job (police detective) so you probably aren't home much and sometimes you get called into work at night, you live in Ypsilanti, you drive an 04 Kia Sedone. Wow, I actually just got your name, address, and phone number too, all from a Google search of your username here. As soon as you see this I will edit all of it out of my post. I think you should edit your post as well, you can't be too careful. Even if someone's username isn't linked to their true name, it's not that hard to find out who you are or where you live. An example is using online purchasing. Someone could buy something that you are selling to get your address, or try to sell you something. Maybe they see you talking about a specific firearm and PM you with an offer for one at a great price. They could also pay off someone that you did business with in the past. You really have to be careful with what you admit to online. Not to split hairs, as I understand what you are saying but I fixed your op for ya, LMAO J- $100 X 52weeks = $5,200 X 3 years = $15,600 You didn't specify that you were paid every other week. It doesn't matter how much is there, it matters how much a thief thinks is there. I put away 100 per pay check 52 week in a year, 26 pay periods a year, 2600 per yearx 3 years=7800. And thanks to you they think I have 15000.00, ooooooohhhhh i'm doomed, LMAO just kidding with ya. J- I believe on average most people get paid weekly, that's where I made the assumption which lead to the bigger number |
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Quoted: This isn't exactly what you are looking for but what about a safety deposit box? We keep some cash and guns in an 850lb gun safe at the house, but keep more "liquid" cash along with a few other things in a good sized safety deposit box at the local credit union. Costs about $75/year. I know..its not really on hand. But I thought about it and decided the odds of an armed intruder breaking in and either somehow getting into the safe, or worse making my wife or myself open it if caught off guard, were much higher than the odds of the cu for some reason closing out of the blue or not letting me into my box. Not to mention the risk of fire and how well my "fire rated" safe would hold up. CU is closed every weekend.... |
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This isn't exactly what you are looking for but what about a safety deposit box? We keep some cash and guns in an 850lb gun safe at the house, but keep more "liquid" cash along with a few other things in a good sized safety deposit box at the local credit union. Costs about $75/year. I know..its not really on hand. But I thought about it and decided the odds of an armed intruder breaking in and either somehow getting into the safe, or worse making my wife or myself open it if caught off guard, were much higher than the odds of the cu for some reason closing out of the blue or not letting me into my box. Not to mention the risk of fire and how well my "fire rated" safe would hold up. CU is closed every weekend.... There are many banks nowadays opened on the weekend, even Sunday. AFAIK, a safety deposit box is pretty safe from theft or fire. |
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Huh honestly I dont know of anyone that gets paid weekly, maybe it is a regional thing? J- Could be. Some people I know who work for big companies get paid mponthly. other than that, it's always weekly as far as I know. I'm not sure if I would like every other week |
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