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Ups finally delivered the hammock. Having a day off I went ahead and strung it up. The set up was fast and easy. It didnt take long to get comfy and before I knew it I had napped 3 hours.
First impressions. No more tents for me.It was crazy comfortable. With the way the wind rocked the hammock it felt similiar to floating in water. It was about 50° and sunny and I could see where you would want an underquilt in cooler weather. All in all Im pleased. When I get the chance Ill go overnight in it. Eta. For some reason Im having trouble posting a pic |
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I've got a Hennesy; only used it a few times for napping during our mid-day shutdown on the LZ. That wind starts blowing and the helicopters land.
It has an integrated bug fly and a separate rain fly. |
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Ups finally delivered the hammock. Having a day off I went ahead and strung it up. The set up was fast and easy. It didnt take long to get comfy and before I knew it I had napped 3 hours. First impressions. No more tents for me.It was crazy comfortable. With the way the wind rocked the hammock it felt similiar to floating in water. It was about 50 and sunny and I could see where you would want an underquilt in cooler weather. All in all Im pleased. When I get the chance Ill go overnight in it. Eta. For some reason Im having trouble posting a pic View Quote For more info, Google "hammock forum". |
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The downside to a pad is that they slip and slide. If you're going to go this route I highly recommend a double layer with a sleeve. The pad slides in the sleeve stays put.
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I discovered hammock camping last summer and love it. took no time to get used to it.
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I've got a Kammok Roo I bought before hanging out on Hammock Forums. It's...Ok, but I plan on moving up to a Dutch Chameleon soon.
As for quilts, I got a set of Loco Libre Super Saver 20 deg quilts that are very, very comfy. |
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I've been slowly upgrading my hammock camping gear as the time has gone on. Went from a sleeping bag top and a pad bottom to a HG Burrow 30 Econ TQ and a Jarbridge UQ. Next step is to upgrade my Tarp and get a bit lighter. I've found Paria outdoors has a nice lightweight tarp i'm going to try. My old Hennessey Hex Tarp is just way too heavy. The Paria tarp is supposed to be 11 oz lighter(the entire setup is 16 oz) at only cost $80. While it's not cuben tarp light, it's not cuben tarp pricey either. After that, i'm going to grab a netted Dutchware hammock, as I found i like the 11ft hammocks better than the shorter Skeeter Beeter Pro.
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FO or NO FO: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072BXHBTF/ref=sspa_mw_detail_4?psc=1 I'm completely new to hammocking. Going in May. Single or double? I'm sleeping alone that night. Can a double actually support two people? |
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It says it supports 600# but I can't imagine trying to share a hammock.
Looks decent enough if a little short. I prefer a 11' hammock but I'm on the taller end. I'd be curious what the straps are made of. Nylon stretches and you'll end up on the ground. Polypro doesn't. I like wide and long so that's what I'd go for. Don't forget an underquilt so you don't freeze your ass off. |
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I quite like my XLC, but I need to get a tarp. It’s hard for me to sleep outside of near total darkness, which presents a problem when the moon is out and it’s bright as blazes through the bug net. It’s stinkin’ comfortable and easy to pack though, almost makes me regret buying a tent before I got it.
Regarding double hammocks, they can indeed support the weight, but that doesn’t mean you’ll be comfortable sleeping that close to someone all night. I take my tent when my girlfriend and I go, but the hammock when I’m with a buddy. |
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Arf: FO or NO FO: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072BXHBTF/ref=sspa_mw_detail_4?psc=1 I'm completely new to hammocking. Going in May. Single or double? I'm sleeping alone that night. Can a double actually support two people? View Quote How tall are you? I am 6' and always look for longer hammocks, that just-under 10' may be a problem. Nice thing about May camping (at least in Jersey) is the that you don:to need a bug net. |
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That price is almost disposable, so I am thinking fo for it. How tall are you? I am 6' and always look for longer hammocks, that just-under 10' may be a problem. Nice thing about May camping (at least in Jersey) is the that you don:to need a bug net. View Quote |
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Looks like I'm buying a hammock then. Now if my friends actually come through on the canoe trip...
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I've gotten a couple more afternoon hammock naps under my belt. Because of my height I started having an issue of knee hyper extension. It just made my knees ache. I solved most of it with adjusting strap heights and tension on the hammock. I also got a blowup camping pillow from amazon and I put it up under my knees. That did the trick. I've been looking at quilts but I think I'll spend a few nights in it first before I lay out the cash for those. So far so good.
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Quoted: For an extra $3, i'd go with the double. The reason being that the wider the hammock, the flatter the lay you can get. You actually sleep on an diagonal like this: https://i0.wp.com/scoutingmagazine.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/HammockSleepDiagonal.jpg?ssl=1 So that way, you have more material where your feet/head will be(which helps when you are above 6 ft. You might need to find a longer hammock in the future, but i would think you will probably be ok with the wide model. And no, i wouldn't try to sleep two people in a hammock. Not overnight at least. For an afternoon nap or something? Maybe. Just getting in and out for bathroom trips at 3am would be a mess. View Quote I have a friend who is like 5'11 and 300#, who sleeps in a "mid size" hammock with a bug net, he looks like a sausage. Deffinitely go with the biggest model you can swing. |
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I'm 5'4 and sleep in a hennessey Safari deluxe. Its like an apartment. I have a friend who is like 5'11 and 300#, who sleeps in a "mid size" hammock with a bug net, he looks like a sausage. Deffinitely go with the biggest model you can swing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: For an extra $3, i'd go with the double. The reason being that the wider the hammock, the flatter the lay you can get. You actually sleep on an diagonal like this: https://i0.wp.com/scoutingmagazine.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/HammockSleepDiagonal.jpg?ssl=1 So that way, you have more material where your feet/head will be(which helps when you are above 6 ft. You might need to find a longer hammock in the future, but i would think you will probably be ok with the wide model. And no, i wouldn't try to sleep two people in a hammock. Not overnight at least. For an afternoon nap or something? Maybe. Just getting in and out for bathroom trips at 3am would be a mess. I have a friend who is like 5'11 and 300#, who sleeps in a "mid size" hammock with a bug net, he looks like a sausage. Deffinitely go with the biggest model you can swing. |
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I rode my scooter up to Utah and slept in the snow in my hammock. Toasty warm all night.
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I'm 5'7" and I have an 11 and 10 foot Hennessy Hammocks. I kind of like the shorter one better. That foot side zipper is awful far away once I'm in the 11 footer. I did run a piece of glow in the dark paracord from the zipper to the ridge line to help, but I've still slept better in the short one. View Quote I've never seen a hendo side zip in person, how confident are you in the zipper? The side zips I have tested seemed like there is a lot of pressure on the zipper when entering and exiting. Whats your feeling on them if you dont mind? |
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Mine is a bottom entry. I have a paranoia of broken zippers. I've never seen a hendo side zip in person, how confident are you in the zipper? The side zips I have tested seemed like there is a lot of pressure on the zipper when entering and exiting. Whats your feeling on them if you dont mind? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm 5'7" and I have an 11 and 10 foot Hennessy Hammocks. I kind of like the shorter one better. That foot side zipper is awful far away once I'm in the 11 footer. I did run a piece of glow in the dark paracord from the zipper to the ridge line to help, but I've still slept better in the short one. I've never seen a hendo side zip in person, how confident are you in the zipper? The side zips I have tested seemed like there is a lot of pressure on the zipper when entering and exiting. Whats your feeling on them if you dont mind? |
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FYI, Outdoor Vitals just released a 15° synthetic top quit that with a coupon code ships for under a bill.
Not affiliated, hell I won't even provide you with a link :-) This is my first purchase from them, will report back results. |
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Quoted: For an extra $3, i'd go with the double. The reason being that the wider the hammock, the flatter the lay you can get. You actually sleep on an diagonal like this: https://i0.wp.com/scoutingmagazine.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/HammockSleepDiagonal.jpg?ssl=1 So that way, you have more material where your feet/head will be(which helps when you are above 6 ft. You might need to find a longer hammock in the future, but i would think you will probably be ok with the wide model. And no, i wouldn't try to sleep two people in a hammock. Not overnight at least. For an afternoon nap or something? Maybe. Just getting in and out for bathroom trips at 3am would be a mess. View Quote I ended up back in my Clark with Z-Liner. What I really want is a down underquilt made like the Z-Liner so that it Velcro's to the edges and stays put better than the stupid bungee cord suspension systems do. Nobody makes it and I can't sew for shit. |
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FYI, Outdoor Vitals just released a 15° synthetic top quit that with a coupon code ships for under a bill. Not affiliated, hell I won't even provide you with a link :-) This is my first purchase from them, will report back results. View Quote |
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I won't ever need something that low. Have you thought of making your own gear? I've seen some really badass DIY gear on the hammockforums. View Quote Honestly at the price points for gear these days I don't know that there is much benefit to roll-your-own, at least at my level of activity and amount of free time. $150 got me an R 5.1 sleeping pad at REI, coupled with the "cheep" ENO under quilt and this top quilt I expect to be good at most any temperature I would venture out in. |
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got a couple of IMs so I will just share the details here.
The quilt is on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B078X19156/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1520362360&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=topquilt&dpPl=1&dpID=510aPi-h3%2BL&ref=plSrch (I am leaving cold because the ARF referrer fuckery tends to break Amazon links for me). I used the coupon code TQS15OFF for a 35% discount. If that stopped working try LOFTTEK5 for a 25% discount. HTH, WTF |
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Wouldn't the hammock have to come with the soft side of the velcro sewn in? While it's not an UQ, I can say that the Hennessy Super Shelter is set up so that the undercover and underpad don't move a lot if at all. I ended up sleeping on the net of the hammock at some point while the SS was still perfectly aligned. My Bear Taco: https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/800tS5.jpg View Quote |
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got a couple of IMs so I will just share the details here. The quilt is on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B078X19156/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1520362360&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=topquilt&dpPl=1&dpID=510aPi-h3%2BL&ref=plSrch (I am leaving cold because the ARF referrer fuckery tends to break Amazon links for me). I used the coupon code TQS15OFF for a 35% discount. If that stopped working try LOFTTEK5 for a 25% discount. HTH, WTF View Quote |
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Is 2lbs 11 oz. Good or bad on weight as compared to other top quilts? Im new to this and was just curious what everybody thought? View Quote However with the discount code the damn thing is a complete steal. If I didn't already have 2 quilts plus a down bag, I'd have broken the sound barrier grabbing that. |
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Quoted: That's pretty decent. Not phenomenal but good, probably really just represents the loss of the hood, zippers, and extra back material. However with the discount code the damn thing is a complete steal. If I didn't already have 2 quilts plus a down bag, I'd have broken the sound barrier grabbing that. View Quote |
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Well. I fo'd on it. Just for everyone's info. Its about 20oz heavier. Than quilts like Loco libre, HG incubator, and EE's top quilt. But all those are $250 to $350 TQ. So Ill just work out more and save me some money.lol Why Tan Fox thanks for posting the deal. View Quote |
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Looks like I'm buying a hammock then. Now if my friends actually come through on the canoe trip... View Quote My first was a $25 cheapo from Academy. I could porch nap in it better than the wife's Eno that she loved. (I hated the Eno). Tarp was a blue Walmart 10x12. Underquilts are pricey, but well worth the expense. I was able to start with a pad. It was a green foam pad. It, with a 2x4 foot rectangle of Reflectix insulation and a top quilt kept me warm into the low 40's. My top quilt is just a down mummy bag flipped over and used as a TQ. Add a real TQ and a homemade fleece TC liner and I was comfy to the low 20's. An adjustable "structural" ridgeline was one of the best investments I made. Adjust it to get the perfect amount of sag in the hammock, then lock it down. That one thing gained me the most sleep (beside good insulation) My latest evolution in hammocking is an 11' Dutchware hammock, whoopies/treehuggers/tarp build by a freind from Hammock Forums (Squidbilly). Insulation is the already mentioned inverted down bag, the homemade fleece TC liner (with extra insulated footbox). Bottom insulation is either my old army pad or an underquilt the wife made. Note: if I use the army pad, i lay a small cotton camp towel between me and the pad to soak any sweat that might accumulate there. |
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I've gotten a couple more afternoon hammock naps under my belt. Because of my height I started having an issue of knee hyper extension. It just made my knees ache. I solved most of it with adjusting strap heights and tension on the hammock. I also got a blowup camping pillow from amazon and I put it up under my knees. That did the trick. I've been looking at quilts but I think I'll spend a few nights in it first before I lay out the cash for those. So far so good. View Quote |
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I received the Outdoor Vitals 15° top quilt. The delivery came in several days early. When I was unpacking everything I found a hand written note saying that they had complimentary upgraded my order to two day shipping. Nice. Everything looked nice and well made. I ordered the larger size. Im 6'4" and it is plenty big for me (I can pull it over my head). As mentioned before at this price point it's a bargain.
So with new quilt I thought what the hell It's time for my first overnight hang. I rigged an underquilt out of an old sleeping bag. I set up on the back porch without a tarp. I settled in to bed wearing a beanie,shorts and a tshirt.Except for the occasional draft from turning over or the beanie coming off of my ear. I was plenty warm( it got down to 37°).I slept solid until about 4am.After that the wind got up to about 15 mph and I could feel the bottom side of the hammock cooling down, but I never got cold. But in between the swaying of the hammock in the wind and the pack of coyotes howling in the distance I slept poorly from 4- 6am. All in all I'm impressed with the Outdoor vitals top quilt.And I'm pleased I finally got the first overnight hang under my belt. Edited to say. Right out of the box it took the quilt about 30 min to loft up. Also the footbox on the OV top quilt had plenty of room. |
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I received the Outdoor Vitals 15° top quilt. The delivery came in several days early. When I was unpacking everything I found a hand written note saying that they had complimentary upgraded my order to two day shipping. Nice. Everything looked nice and well made. I ordered the larger size. Im 6'4" and it is plenty big for me (I can pull it over my head). As mentioned before at this price point it's a bargain. So with new quilt I thought what the hell It's time for my first overnight hang. I rigged an underquilt out of an old sleeping bag. I set up on the back porch without a tarp. I settled in to bed wearing a beanie,shorts and a tshirt.Except for the occasional draft from turning over or the beanie coming off of my ear. I was plenty warm( it got down to 37°).I slept solid until about 4am.After that the wind got up to about 15 mph and I could feel the bottom side of the hammock cooling down, but I never got cold. But in between the swaying of the hammock in the wind and the pack of coyotes howling in the distance I slept poorly from 4- 6am. All in all I'm impressed with the Outdoor vitals top quilt.And I'm pleased I finally got the first overnight hang under my belt. View Quote |
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If I’m honest, I always have a tough night the first night in a hammock unless I am physically exhausted. It’s such a different mode of sleep that it’s tough to just plop down and go to bed. Unless it’s afternoon. For some reason I can’t stay awake in one in the afternoon. Go figure.
A big help to me is just to take some sleep aid before bed the first night. Then I sleep pretty soundly unless there is a major issue. Another trick is to boil up some water and put it in a nalgene container. Put that in a sock and put that inside with you between the legs. It really helps keep the cold at bay overnight. |
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That was also my biggest sleep robber and was solved with a blow up pillow, a structual ridge line set just right and diagonal lay in a longer hammock. View Quote One of the things I like about using a wide & long camp pad is it helps me keep some form for a diagonal lay, and allows me to roll from back to side if I want. Conversely, I don’t get the point of the mummy pods as they force a straight lay and that seems to be uncomfortable for a night's sleep. |
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Regarding the OV top quilt, it has a ton of loft and is lighter and packs much smaller than the Coleman mummy bag I was draping over myself. I am excited to take it out this weekend, though I think the over-nights are only about 35°.
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I have been looking into structural ridgelines but haven't set one up yet. My understanding is that it allows you to set and keep a constant "slack" in the hammock regardless of how tight or loose the suspension may be; is that right? One of the things I like about using a wide & long camp pad is it helps me keep some form for a diagonal lay, and allows me to roll from back to side if I want. Conversely, I don’t get the point of the mummy pods as they force a straight lay and that seems to be uncomfortable for a night's sleep. View Quote I setup a ridgeline on my Clark for this reason. It's much easier to put up the hammock if I don't have to fuss with the suspension lines trying to get the sag just right. It also opens a wider selection of trees since I don't have to reach 4' above my head if they are a little further apart than the ideal. |
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Quoted: Exactly. It sets the length between the ends of the hammock so that a specific amount of sag is there no matter where the suspension lines are placed on the trees (within reason). Keep in mind that closer the suspension lines get to horizontal the force on the ridge line and exerted on the tree goes up exponentially. I setup a ridgeline on my Clark for this reason. It's much easier to put up the hammock if I don't have to fuss with the suspension lines trying to get the sag just right. It also opens a wider selection of trees since I don't have to reach 4' above my head if they are a little further apart than the ideal. View Quote |
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By intoducing the sag into the hammock does it help you lay flatter? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Exactly. It sets the length between the ends of the hammock so that a specific amount of sag is there no matter where the suspension lines are placed on the trees (within reason). Keep in mind that closer the suspension lines get to horizontal the force on the ridge line and exerted on the tree goes up exponentially. I setup a ridgeline on my Clark for this reason. It's much easier to put up the hammock if I don't have to fuss with the suspension lines trying to get the sag just right. It also opens a wider selection of trees since I don't have to reach 4' above my head if they are a little further apart than the ideal. Attached File |
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By intoducing the sag into the hammock does it help you lay flatter? View Quote |
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Quoted: In general yes. For the Clark it’s not designed for a heavy asymmetrical lay. You can do a slight diagonal lay in it but not like Black Bird. However the whole thing just feels better at the proper sag angle. It doesn’t squeeze in on your shoulders, the fabric isn’t as stressed and doesn’t push on your calves so much. Also the zippers work correctly for the netting with the proper sag. View Quote |
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Quoted: My whole family is in Hennessys for less than a Clark. View Quote I also got a Tentsile with last years dividend from REI so it cost me $50 out of pocket. I freaking LOVE that thing for car camping expeditions. It's expensive too, but it's comfortable and fun to use. Takes all kinds. |
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Quoted: Yeah, I didn't like Hennesy, and I loved sleeping in the Warbonnet Blackbird but as mentioned I can't get insulation to stay put on it so I wake up in the wee hours freezing somewhere. Clark works well for me and I stay warm and sleep well through the nights. Thus that's what I keep using. Got it when they had a sale going on, so it wasn't the painful current list price. I also got a Tentsile with last years dividend from REI so it cost me $50 out of pocket. I freaking LOVE that thing for car camping expeditions. It's expensive too, but it's comfortable and fun to use. Takes all kinds. View Quote |
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I was just a little envious. View Quote Anyway. A lot of money got tossed just to find I should have stuck with what was working for me. |
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Hammocked this past weekend.
Gear: Outer Limits single hammock, Bear Butt tarp & "atlas"-like straps, Outdoor Vitals 15° over quilt, ENO Ember2 under quilt, REI Flash pad Overnight low: 12.7° Details: I used an extra atlas strap (NHO brand) as a make shift structural ridgeline, which helped get a good sag despite the rather long distance between trees. It was my first time using a tarp and I wasn't sure how to best string it up; in the end I looped the quick adjusters through the grommets and tied to trees and tent pegs with a clove hitch. No precipitation expected but I rigged the tarp to break the wind. I slept in thin UA-knock offs from Costco, wool socks, and a cotton hooded sweatshirt... and I slept like a baby! Toasty (mostly) all night long. Cons/changes: my ass cheaks got a little cold, the pad seemed to deflate a little and my butt definitely had the highest PSI of the lay, creating an uninsulated cold spot. I will try with more sag, more air in the pad, and double-wide hammock so I can get a better diagonal lay. I may also revert to (or maybe just double up) and use my foam pad (which is bulkier than and doesn't have the R value of the REI pad, but I won't have to worry about cold spots). "Shoulder wings" may have helped a little but rolling on my side solved the butt problem and got my shoulders warmer. But those hiccups were minor and I have great confidence in my gear to make it comfortably through a very cold night. |
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