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Posted: 11/11/2022 2:47:15 PM EDT
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My upper box package was delivered to the house. It's safe inside now thanks to my sweet wife...now asking what I bought this close to Christmas that she doesn't know about...
So, flowers and wine on the shopping list for the ride home! Let my FFL know as well as they both shipped #-Day Select, so the rifle should land today as well. Order number 1053978 Second barrel is a 22-250 |
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3950 received with 22-250 spare barrel.
I spoke with LT twice over the past few days and they do not have any plans currently to offer barrels for sale individually. I would assume that a decent percentage of buyers might be second guessing their spare barrel choice or perhaps do not want the second barrel, which could facilitate our own internal swap meet. Thoughts on how to make that happen without violating site rules of no sales outside the EE? |
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Quoted: 3950 received with 22-250 spare barrel. I spoke with LT twice over the past few days and they do not have any plans currently to offer barrels for sale individually. I would assume that a decent percentage of buyers might be second guessing their spare barrel choice or perhaps do not want the second barrel, which could facilitate our own internal swap meet. Thoughts on how to make that happen without violating site rules of no sales outside the EE? View Quote Post in the SWAG thread. "Trade or IM me" |
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That’s disappointing news. I don’t understand their thinking of making barrel swap rifles without ever really offering sparrels.
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I don’t see why they wouldn’t spin up a couple hundred of each caliber once they get done filling the full rifle orders. I think they said “currently” on purpose. I was really hoping they offered different caliber and lengths for the tOBR, a 6.8 in 12” specifically, but that didn’t happen either, so I bought a few extra barrels and cut them down to 14” & 12” myself. At least the other caliber barrels for this rifle do indeed exist and I bet that it won’t be too difficult to find someone trading or selling the ones you want.
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Quoted: That’s disappointing news. I don’t understand their thinking of making barrel swap rifles without ever really offering sparrels. View Quote Welcome to the tOBR owners club est 2012. We tried to warn you to buy if you’re happy with the rifle as it is because future support may never happen. |
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Quoted: Welcome to the tOBR owners club est 2012. We tried to warn you to buy if you’re happy with the rifle as it is because future support may never happen. View Quote The potential of this happening is why I went with 6.5 CM and .308. Hopefully down the road it opens up to sparells, but after seeing all the tOBR guys complain about the lack of them doesn’t have me holding my breath. |
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^^^Yeah the 308 I feel like is going to be very popular on second market for anyone that didn’t get one. Hard to beat 308 for a hunting round in the US.
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Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/215811/A7E82AE3-3F2F-48C2-B8B5-8950C9897B86-2644041.jpg First impression: The rifle was much lighter than I expected. tOBR owner, so I expected the rail system to lock up tight and be easily removed, which are both true. My experience with high dollar bolt guns is very minimal, having shot a few from time to time but not having the education needed to comment on the action other than to subjectively say that it seems very smooth. The folding stock mechanism locks up very tight; I was worried about this particular attribute but it exceeded my expectation. The trigger has zero creep and a surprisingly light pull to break. The stock is what it is - I think we all would have preferred that LT designed their own kick ass precision stock to compliment this nicely designed rifle, however it functions just fine. I landed on the medium height riser. If there is a better alternative that meets my needs then I’ll end up replacing it, however, my desire for this rifle was to fill the role of a long range hunting rifle to replace my super heavy N6. When trekking through crappy terrain all day and setting up for a quick shot, I don’t need a Rube Goldberg design with all kinds of wizbang BS; keep it simple. If I do keep this stock, I’ll use some adhesive spray and stick a piece of leather to it. I’ve seen some disdain for the grip, but I happen to like the A-PEG a lot. It takes my hand and methodically places my thumb and trigger finger into a comfortable firing position. I implement the Magpul MOE+ on my work AR’s but all of my factory LaRue rifles still have the A-PEG and I won’t change them. Fit and finish is excellent as should be expected from LaRue, for those that plan to keep it in the house and take more pictures than shots. Friday I’ll be headed to Lampasas to sight it in and hopefully draw first blood. Cheers. View Quote Good stuff |
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Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/215811/A7E82AE3-3F2F-48C2-B8B5-8950C9897B86-2644041.jpg First impression: The rifle was much lighter than I expected. tOBR owner, so I expected the rail system to lock up tight and be easily removed, which are both true. My experience with high dollar bolt guns is very minimal, having shot a few from time to time but not having the education needed to comment on the action other than to subjectively say that it seems very smooth. The folding stock mechanism locks up very tight; I was worried about this particular attribute but it exceeded my expectation. The trigger has zero creep and a surprisingly light pull to break. The stock is what it is - I think we all would have preferred that LT designed their own kick ass precision stock to compliment this nicely designed rifle, however it functions just fine. I landed on the medium height riser. If there is a better alternative that meets my needs then I’ll end up replacing it, however, my desire for this rifle was to fill the role of a long range hunting rifle to replace my super heavy N6. When trekking through crappy terrain all day and setting up for a quick shot, I don’t need a Rube Goldberg design with all kinds of wizbang BS; keep it simple. If I do keep this stock, I’ll use some adhesive spray and stick a piece of leather to it. I’ve seen some disdain for the grip, but I happen to like the A-PEG a lot. It takes my hand and methodically places my thumb and trigger finger into a comfortable firing position. I implement the Magpul MOE+ on my work AR’s but all of my factory LaRue rifles still have the A-PEG and I won’t change them. Fit and finish is excellent as should be expected from LaRue, for those that plan to keep it in the house and take more pictures than shots. Friday I’ll be headed to Lampasas to sight it in and hopefully draw first blood. Cheers. View Quote Your post made it on to Mark’s Instagram. |
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Wanna grab a measurement of your scope objective and the distance between the rail and the scope for me?
I want the lowest gap I can get before ordering my mount. |
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Lol so this is why none of those guys that won a siete years ago posted anything. Never shot it. I’d check periodically out of curiosity to see what happened to those siete rifles LT gave away a few years back. Anyone see others sold on gunbroker or somewhere else?
Also, I wonder how many parts are the same with the final production siete. Think you can pop it in the newer chassis? Left cold https://www.gunbroker.com/item/964121013 Attached File |
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Quoted: Lol so this is why none of those guys that won a siete years ago posted anything. Never shot it. I’d check periodically out of curiosity to see what happened to those siete rifles LT gave away a few years back. Anyone see others sold on gunbroker or somewhere else? Also, I wonder how many parts are the same with the final production siete. Think you can pop it in the newer chassis? Left cold https://www.gunbroker.com/item/964121013 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/136152/E1A3F8A1-169C-4DC8-9291-F96E0F3420A2_jpe-2653884.JPG View Quote Fuck that guy. Be nice to get them in the hands of people who can actually take them legally to their gun range. Ass. |
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Quoted: Lol so this is why none of those guys that won a siete years ago posted anything. Never shot it. I’d check periodically out of curiosity to see what happened to those siete rifles LT gave away a few years back. Anyone see others sold on gunbroker or somewhere else? Also, I wonder how many parts are the same with the final production siete. Think you can pop it in the newer chassis? Left cold https://www.gunbroker.com/item/964121013 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/136152/E1A3F8A1-169C-4DC8-9291-F96E0F3420A2_jpe-2653884.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Lol so this is why none of those guys that won a siete years ago posted anything. Never shot it. I’d check periodically out of curiosity to see what happened to those siete rifles LT gave away a few years back. Anyone see others sold on gunbroker or somewhere else? Also, I wonder how many parts are the same with the final production siete. Think you can pop it in the newer chassis? Left cold https://www.gunbroker.com/item/964121013 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/136152/E1A3F8A1-169C-4DC8-9291-F96E0F3420A2_jpe-2653884.JPG interesting main part of chassis is completely diff i wonder if shop is orig owner or orig owner traded it for something else, given the hubbub that was swirling around for those few at the time. Quoted: Fuck that guy. Be nice to get them in the hands of people who can actually take them legally to their gun range. Ass. no doubt |
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It is very interesting. It’s always been a head scratcher that a handful were given away by LT and literally no one put any information about the siete out.
There was one wife of a dude who posted in this forum years ago. It was some cryptic stuff but no real info. Not sure if the person actually had one anyway. |
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I’m headed to the ranch tomorrow to break in and test a 6.5 & 22-250 barrel.
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Thank you for taking time to post your results!
Did the siete come with a test target group? If so how was that and which calibers? |
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Quoted: Thank you for taking time to post your results! Did the siete come with a test target group? If so how was that and which calibers? View Quote I don’t think so unless it’s in the plastic sleeve with the other targets. My second barrel was the 22-250. I’ll try to get some groups with that one tomorrow. |
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looks like it prefers the heavier bullets or it is tightening up as you shoot it, but so far out of the box so far i see nothing better than my tobr/obr will do. it will be interesting to see what they do when broken in.
i would have expected to see the suppressor tighten up the groups a little too as that seems to happen with mine but maybe that is a semi auto thing? |
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Quoted: looks like it prefers the heavier bullets or it is tightening up as you shoot it, but so far out of the box so far i see nothing better than my tobr/obr will do. it will be interesting to see what they do when broken in. i would have expected to see the suppressor tighten up the groups a little too as that seems to happen with mine but maybe that is a semi auto thing? View Quote Keep in mind that you’re looking at targets shot by an amateur done quickly and resting on a bag of corn and shooting through some pretty strong winds. I’m not who Mark LaRue would choose to post some of the first, or maybe the first, publicly visible groupings with his first precision bolt gun, but my post was primarily to show that if a self admitted terrible, inexperienced target shooter can pull off MOA and better groups with ease, then there are two takeaways current and potential buyers can assume: Your average shooter will have a very nice target or deer rifle that can shoot way better than they can, and they have a rifle that they can develop their own skills with if they wish. The rifle is capable of way better in experienced hands and they should feel confident in their purchase knowing this. |
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bobweaver - thanks for posting. Just nice to finally get a data point. I'm someone who ended up not getting a Siete when LaRue notified me. Wasn't crazy about the stock and was kind of hoping they'd come in under $2000 (or at least $2,500). But the biggest factor holding me back is there was no real data about the overall accuracy (or anything else for that matter). Yes, my LaRue uppers have all been shooters, but I'm really not interested in a bolt gun if it can't shoot .75 MOA or better. And once delivery started and I didn't see anyone posting groups I kind of assumed the worst. Glad you're happy with the rifle and I suspect once you get a little more trigger time behind it, and put 1-200 rounds through the barrel those groups will become even tighter.
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Mark stated in a instagram post that no test targets will be provided with the Siete....apparently he did not want to have to make a bunch of i outshot the shootist dillos.
personally i like the test targets as then i have a benchmark as to how the gun is breaking in, guess ill just have to make my own.lol |
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Mine is not liking any of the 140s I’ve put through it. Might get some <140gr loads to try.
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Quoted: Pics? Details on the ammo? View Quote I’ve run Hornady Black, Hornady ELD Match, Winchester Match, FGMM, all 140s. Tightest groups are around 1” for both 3 and 5-rd groups. Think I’ll pick up some Hornady 147 ELD Match to try next. Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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I’m going to try ammo in the 120’s next.
Maybe you just need a bag of corn. |
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Quoted: I’ve run Hornady Black, Hornady ELD Match, Winchester Match, FGMM, all 140s. Tightest groups are around 1” for both 3 and 5-rd groups. Think I’ll pick up some Hornady 147 ELD Match to try next. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/158486/EC8E2691-C2C3-46E8-A627-0203F9CDC80A_jpe-2675437.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/158486/66D1C278-9408-4C44-9257-B95315393385_jpe-2675439.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/158486/B56CDCC8-AF9B-43A0-90CB-B2FDFD87702E_jpe-2675440.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/158486/01D7DC48-69F6-47C1-8CF1-8C64DF726589_jpe-2675442.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/158486/D9A67EBA-1458-48E5-801D-CFF0A2F0B4DE_jpe-2675446.JPG View Quote Thanks for sharing. In the groups with the outliers, the shots appear to shift left. Could be from a loose scope, parallax, those OK winds or an unstable position. |
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Headed to ranch to shoot the 22-250 barrel. Will report back in a couple hours.
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Quoted: LaRue Enhanced Siete 22-250 first shots. Swapped over to the 22-250 today and set up on some corn bags again. The barrel changes are super quick and easy. I tried a vise and the field expedient method mentioned in the manual; both take less than a minute. The 22-250 is what had me really excited during the checkout process, so I had some high hopes for today and my goodness the Siete did not let me down! If you read my post on the first shots with the 6.5 then you know I didn’t do the barrel break in process. ML saw it and gave me a so from one bird dog lover to another, I did your break in process on the 22-250. I used previous targets still up from the 6.5 groupings to see if I was even on paper, then dug out a new target for the remaining 10 rounds I had left in the box. I never zeroed the scope after shooting the 6.5 so POI is not POA, which was center of each target. Shots 1-3 and 4-10 are the first two targets in the picture and the third target is a ten shot group. The one bad shot was number 9 and I wanted a real 10 shot group for this review. It apparently really likes this Remington ammo and I’m glad because I bought a bunch. My next trip I’ll take it out to 400 yards in 100 yard increments and see how it performs. I needed a very accurate rifle to neck shoot Axis deer and I do believe I found it. Happy in the Hill Country. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/215811/A08B98C7-2F85-4CCE-B2CD-65D92EDAA957-2678062.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/215811/B0718A09-4B84-4146-A78D-EDA460034DB1-2678060.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/215811/677F0735-0E8F-4FE7-AB3C-9FBA27213346-2678061.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/215811/92E36473-B05B-4747-B9DA-C933ABA4A9DE-2678650.jpg View Quote That last 10shot group is absolutely excellent! |
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Quoted: That last 10shot group is absolutely excellent! View Quote Screwed it up with shot number 9, but there’s no doubt that barrel can shoot. Been trying to figure out what I’m going to do optic wise. Plan was to zero the 6.5 and set stops, then zero the 22-250 and record clicks so I can use the optic for both calibers. Now I want to buy all the other calibers and am thinking I’ll need a minimum of three optics in quick detach mounts. |
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Final account balance hit the credit card this morning. Hope to see the new rifle next week.
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Quoted: Now I want to buy all the other calibers and am thinking I’ll need a minimum of three optics in quick detach mounts. View Quote Have you considered getting an optic like a RZR Gen 3, TT 5-25? You get quick zero turrets and great glass, and despite their cost, you’d be money ahead vs extra mounts /scopes. |
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Quoted: Have you considered getting an optic like a RZR Gen 3, TT 5-25? You get quick zero turrets and great glass, and despite their cost, you’d be money ahead vs extra mounts /scopes. View Quote @SuperJlarge I have very little experience and knowledge in the precision shooting arena. This is my first precision bolt gun, and I also don’t know crap about higher end magnified scopes. I’m currently reading a lot about MOA & MIL reticles and how to use them, as well as how the zero stop turrets etc work. I have had great success using multiple optics in QD mounts on a single firearm for work over the years and that’s why I’m thinking the same way about this particular rifle, but please write more about the optic you’re referencing. Does it allow for multiple zero settings? |
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