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Posted: 3/15/2022 4:17:23 PM EDT
I know that Colt has done away with roll marks, which is what I really wanted, but, oh well, that ship has sailed.
The pic on the vendors website is terrible and I can't make out the markings on the receivers. Just wondering if anyone can post of pic their current production 6920. COLT M4 CARBINE 5.56MM 16" Colt's Manufacturing, CR6920, Semi-automatic, 223 Rem/556NATO, 16.1" Barrel, Black, Magpul Backup Flip Sight, Matte, 10Rd, 1 Magazine $1,249.99 Ended up going with an ARMS UNLIMITED Colt LE6920 OEM2 Rifle - No Furniture Link UPDATED TO PUT RIFLE PICS IN OP: Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File ADDED CENTURIAN C4 RAIL, MBUS Pro Sights and SSA trigger Attached File Attached File |
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Depending on what is in stock where, some still have M4 Carbine markings, while others are marked Carbine. Ask before buying
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View Quote Yikes. That looks crappy. |
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It looks terrible. It's not a roll mark anymore. It's lasered. Have seen better looking engraved 80s than current Colts
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Just found a line on a Colt LE6920 OEM Rifle - No Furniture for $775. As long as no pistol grip or FS are on the carbine I can get it transferred to me. Once made Cali legal, then I can add the PG and FS.
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Quoted: Yikes. That looks crappy. As of current, Colt has changed rifles to a CR(not talking serial prefix’s). ie CR6920. All of the rifles that fall into that “CR” including the 20” CR6700a4 will have that “CARBINE” The current OEM rifles have been shipping with the “M4 Carbine” marks, although it seems like the most current ones have been engraved rather than stamped. Some of the old LE6920s (LE or CR serial prefix) can still be had NOS but most are going to be 2nd hand sellers and the price has crept up on them over the current CR rifles. Your other option may be to get a current US property marked socom. May or may not be Cali legal with the name. |
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Quoted: As of current, Colt has changed rifles to a CR(not talking serial prefix’s). ie CR6920. All of the rifles that fall into that “CR” including the 20” CR6700a4 will have that “CARBINE” The current OEM rifles have been shipping with the “M4 Carbine” marks, although it seems like the most current ones have been engraved rather than stamped. Some of the old LE6920s (LE or CR serial prefix) can still be had NOS but most are going to be 2nd hand sellers and the price has crept up on them over the current CR rifles. Your other option may be to get a current US property marked socom. May or may not be Cali legal with the name. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Yikes. That looks crappy. As of current, Colt has changed rifles to a CR(not talking serial prefix’s). ie CR6920. All of the rifles that fall into that “CR” including the 20” CR6700a4 will have that “CARBINE” The current OEM rifles have been shipping with the “M4 Carbine” marks, although it seems like the most current ones have been engraved rather than stamped. Some of the old LE6920s (LE or CR serial prefix) can still be had NOS but most are going to be 2nd hand sellers and the price has crept up on them over the current CR rifles. Your other option may be to get a current US property marked socom. May or may not be Cali legal with the name. I believe that those are legal, which I may consider, but I haven't really searched. I would just love to own at least ONE complete COLT rifle in my life. I found one: Colt M4A1 SOCOM Carbine - US Govt Property Marked, Price: $1,899.00 DESCRIPTION: Designed specifically for lightweight mobility, speed of target acquisition, and potent firepower capability - the Colt M4A1 Carbine delivers for our military service members, now it can deliver for you too! The same exact rifle that is issued to US service members with "Property of US Govt M4A1" markings, in a semi-auto configuration. Featuring a true 14.5" SOCOM barrel with an A2 flash hider that is pinned and welded to achieve a 16.1" length. Knights Armament RAS quad rail, ambidextrous safety selector, Matech back up iron sight, and an H2 buffer. Are these roll marked? |
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Quoted: Both rifles purchased within the last 6 months. COLT CR6920 https://i.imgur.com/j29z2qX.jpg COLT LE6920 SOCOM https://i.imgur.com/9TKFfxK.jpg View Quote Well, between those two, I’d take the SOCOM marked lower. Thank you for those pics. That really helps me out a lot. To be honest, I kinda like the markings on the SOCOM lower. |
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FWIW, the earlier socoms are actually stamped roll marks not engraved. Markings are the same as above just stamped instead of engraved.
They can be found 2nd hand new but most likely bringing a premium. |
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Carbine is the new marking on everything according my my Colt guy.
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Quoted: Carbine is the new marking on everything according my my Colt guy. View Quote |
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Quoted: Nope. Your Colt guy is incorrect. Some recently produced guns ("CR" serial prefix, engraved markings, with selector lever stops) say "M4 CARBINE." See post above yours for an example. These started showing up lately after all of the "CR" prefix guns that were marked "CARBINE" flooded the market over the last 2 years. It was widely believed that they would only say "CARBINE" from now on, but low and behold, we are seeing "M4 CARBINE" again. Why? It's Colt. Nothing has ever made sense with their markings and changes over the years. View Quote Yeah some older receivers that didn’t have stuff built on them are/were in the system supposedly are being used up. His comment is all the new ones won’t have it as they are consolidating it all to carbine and everything lasered. He works for Colt, we shall see what ends up happening. Never know with them sometimes. |
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Quoted: Here's the one I got from AU as an OEM2 a couple of months back. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/515689/PXL_20220316_003353837_2_jpg-2314821.JPG View Quote Hmmm, not as bad as just CARBINE. Actually, I really dig the engraved M4 Carbine lower because it actually says Colt on the receiver. Attached File Attached File Attached File rollmark: Attached File |
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Quoted: Yeah some older receivers that didn’t have stuff built on them are/were in the system supposedly are being used up. His comment is all the new ones won’t have it as they are consolidating it all to carbine and everything lasered. He works for Colt, we shall see what ends up happening. Never know with them sometimes. View Quote It was early speculation that Colt was using up old receivers when these current OEMs hit the market and they may possibly have been. There are now engraved “M4 CARBINE” lowers with selector stops showing up though. There is also 20” a4’s with “AR-15A4” engraved with selector stops showing up after the “CARBINE” marked CR6700a4 hit the market. This is telling me Colt is indeed using other markings on current manufactured lowers and they are not old stock that was in the system. I’d ask your friend what he thinks or heard about this. |
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In my mind the "Carbine" marked lowers are great for building an A1 or A2 version carbine since SP1 and AR15A2 marked lowers are rare and expensive. M4 Carbine "usually" infers a flat top upper. So, I see a use for these.
ETA: Now if they would just offer them in Colt grey as well, that would be the cherry on top! |
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Quoted: In my mind the "Carbine" marked lowers are great for building an A1 or A2 version carbine since View Quote I agree with this. I have a 727 style upper I built and have it on a M4 Carbine lower. It was about my best option at the time when I did it. The new CARBINE lower would be a much better choice and I most likely swap it out for one at some point. |
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Scored an M4 CARBINE marked lower with logo and “COLT” name. FINALLY! I now have a real deal COLT rifle!
It’s not a rollmark, but I will take it. Attached File |
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Here is the lower on my 2021 CR6940...laser engraved
Attached File My 2019 AR6720, 2018 AR15A4, 2021 AR15A4. Note laser engraved AR15A4 in 2021 Attached File A member of one of my social media groups has this AR15A4 LE Lightweight Carbine that is laser engraved. It was purchased several years ago. Attached File |
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I am digging the 2019 roll marks and the engraved markings on the last pic. Those engraved markings are nice and sharp!
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Quoted: I am digging the 2019 roll marks and the engraved markings on the last pic. Those engraved markings are nice and sharp! View Quote I have to agree that laser engraving is clear and sharp. Alphanumeric characters are uniform width and depth. Some of my roll marked rifles/carbines look pretty bad. |
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Quoted: A member of one of my social media groups has this AR15A4 LE Lightweight Carbine that is laser engraved. It was purchased several years ago. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/336740/266739846_10219951631156320_497504135366-2319359.JPG View Quote That’s the first I have seen an engraved 6720 lower. Colt really does do some things that make you say WTF though. What was the point of doing laser engraved 6720 lowers if there was a bunch of stamped ones laying around the AU eventually closed out? |
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Clyde armory sells OEM-1/2’s that come roll marked M4 Carbine with CR prefix’d serials.
They are helpful, and will answer any questions about their current items in stock. Ive purchased one from them and its a solid rifle. Comes in as an “other” so the lower is pistol eligible. |
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Quoted: Clyde armory sells OEM-1/2’s that come roll marked M4 Carbine with CR prefix’d serials. They are helpful, and will answer any questions about their current items in stock. Ive purchased one from them and its a solid rifle. Comes in as an “other” so the lower is pistol eligible. View Quote That’s not how it works with pistol eligibility. As far as I know, no Colt OEM is pistol eligible. |
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Quoted: Still not how it works. View Quote As it does not have a stock, it cannot be marked as a “long gun” as it would require a stock to meet the criteria of “to be fired from the shoulder.” Since it cannot be fired from the shoulder as sold without a stock, it would be correct to transfer it as “other.” At least that was how it was explained to me when I tried to purchase one out of state. FFL refused to sell it as a long gun and as such I couldn’t buy it without shipping it home to a FFL in my home state. |
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Quoted: As it does not have a stock, it cannot be marked as a “long gun” as it would require a stock to meet the criteria of “to be fired from the shoulder.” Since it cannot be fired from the shoulder as sold without a stock, it would be correct to transfer it as “other.”. View Quote I agree with this. It was originally stated that because it was transferred as “other” it made it pistol eligible. The 4473 and how it’s transferred doesn’t determine if it is legally eligible to be a pistol or not. |
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Quoted: I agree with this. It was originally stated that because it was transferred as “other” it made it pistol eligible. The 4473 and how it’s transferred doesn’t determine if it is legally eligible to be a pistol or not. View Quote As manufactured, distributed, and sold at retail it was never a "long gun" and was only ever a "firearm." As such I do not see any legal reason it could not be made into a pistol. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I agree with this. It was originally stated that because it was transferred as “other” it made it pistol eligible. The 4473 and how it’s transferred doesn’t determine if it is legally eligible to be a pistol or not. As manufactured It has been brought up and debated many times before. Unless something has changed these are manufactured and reported as rifles from Colt. Believe what you want, do what you want, I couldn’t care less what you do with it. |
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Quoted: It has been brought up and debated many times before. Unless something has changed these are manufactured and reported as rifles from Colt. Believe what you want, do what you want, I couldn’t care less what you do with it. View Quote Honestly, it makes no difference to me. I own too many NFA ARs to mess with pistols. I have zero use or interest in an AR pistol. I was just thinking out loud. |
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The more I look at this lower the more that I dig it. Would be nice if Colt standardized their laser engraving, or whatever they did here, to mimic this consistent spacing and font.
Attached File Much cleaner than what I am gonna receive. These markings look inconsistent. Attached File |
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You are correct you can go pistol to rifle on a lower but not the other way.
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Also once the pistol is over 26 inches , it's just considered a "firearm" and comes out of the pistol definition.
so the OEM 1s cannot be cut down under 26 inches and and be made true pistols ,but they could be SBR'd with an approved form 1. |
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Quoted: Also once the pistol is over 26 inches , it's just considered a "firearm" and comes out of the pistol definition. so the OEM 1s cannot be cut down under 26 inches and and be made true pistols ,but they could be SBR'd with an approved form 1. View Quote Incorrect. A pistol, a rifle, and a “firearm” are three different things. A “firearm” does not meet the definition of a pistol or a rifle. There is no federal law prohibiting short barrel “firearms”, only short barrel RIFLES and Shotguns (which also have to have a stock.) It cannot be a short barreled rifle if is was never a rifle to begin with. There is no minimum barrel length on a “firearm.” The 6920 OEMs may in fact be considered rifles for some unknown reason to me, but there is no such thing a s a short barrel “firearm “, or at least no federal low prohibiting one. |
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Quoted: A member of one of my social media groups has this AR15A4 LE Lightweight Carbine that is laser engraved. It was purchased several years ago. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/336740/266739846_10219951631156320_497504135366-2319359.JPG View Quote FYI, 3462 is my rifle and it was purchased in late 2012. |
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Just received my OEM2 upper. I’m very pleased with what I got. CAGE marked barrel and upper, “R” stamped under barrel, M4 marking over gas tube hole, “C” stamped carrier, and bolt marked with MPC (super faint) along with a white dot dabbed on it. Ill post pics manana.
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Pics of the lower:
Attached File Attached File I am quite pleased what came in. The only thing that was disappointing was that the buffer tube is only a four position tube. I didn’t know Colt was still using these. |
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Has anyone recently gotten a 6920 OEM1? I’d like to know if they’re still coming marked “M4 CARBINE”. Considering picking up a few more if they come that way.
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Just wanted to add some additional pics:
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Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File The MPC marking is there but super faint. |
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Looks good. The lower you got is my favorite out of all them as it has selector stops and the engraving is much nicer than their old rollmarks.
A 6920 is still at the top of the heap when it comes to build quality IMnsHO. |
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Quoted: Looks good. The lower you got is my favorite out of all them as it has selector stops and the engraving is much nicer than their old rollmarks. A 6920 is still at the top of the heap when it comes to build quality IMnsHO. View Quote Yeah, I really dig this lower and the markings look super clean to me. And, just look at the deep and lustrous finish of the upper and lower. LOL. All in all, I am super pleased. I'm on the same page as you regarding what a great value the 6920. Whenever anyone asks me what they should get, I tell them to get a 6920. Yeah, I know that a carbine gas system on a 16" barrel isn't the most optimal set-up, but the quality of the components and the rifle's proven track record is hard to beat based on what you pay. I was wanting to swap out the barrel for a SOCOM, but those things are hard to find and spendy. |
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16” carbine is only less optimal than a 16” mid if you’re gonna use a .078” gas port like they used to do in the ‘90s.
Ported correctly, like Colt always has done, there is no advantage. That 6920 barrel shoots softer than most 16” mids. Try em side by side. |
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