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Posted: 4/7/2021 9:45:56 PM EDT
So I’m selling a new Larue FDE heavy and I have a buyer who I have agreed to sell to, but here is where I need advice.
So I’ve hardly sold anything on here and the only thing I’ve done is PayPal FF. The buyer is hesitant to do FF because he says he has no recourse if I don’t send the rife . I’m somewhat hesitant to do anything else because I’m very unfamiliar with it. Can someone give me advice on the best options? He is in another state so I can’t do a face to face. |
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Tell the buyer he can pay using goods and services but let him know that he also has the pay the 3% fee. Tell him absolutely no comments whatsoever. If he is not willing to do this then move on to the next buyer. It is important when selling items that you specifically state the terms of the payment and or payment options.
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Thanks for the advice.
If we use goods and services, can he claim he did not receive the item and get his money back even if I sent it to him? I guess what I’m saying is that I’m definitely going to send it with insurance and signature required, but if he uses goods and services then can he claim he didn’t receive the item and then leave me without a gun and money? |
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Using PayPal for a firearm is a violation of their terms. If either of you have an issue with the transaction I doubt PayPal would be of any assistance and would likely suspend your accounts.
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Okay well other than USPS money order is there any other methods that would be recommended?
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Quoted: Thanks for the advice. If we use goods and services, can he claim he did not receive the item and get his money back even if I sent it to him? I guess what I’m saying is that I’m definitely going to send it with insurance and signature required, but if he uses goods and services then can he claim he didn’t receive the item and then leave me without a gun and money? View Quote If pp finds out you sold a gun, you could be out the money no matter what. USPS MO. Eta... I replied before getting through all the replies. |
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@ouborat7
I’ll never use PayPal to include FF for a high dollar item. People can do a charge back after you ship and completely screw you as the seller. You’ll be out the money and the item. For expensive items I’ve done a wire transfer or you can use Zelle. I’d also recommend only dealing with people who can provide positive feedback from some account somewhere. |
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Quoted: Thanks for the advice. If we use goods and services, can he claim he did not receive the item and get his money back even if I sent it to him? I guess what I’m saying is that I’m definitely going to send it with insurance and signature required, but if he uses goods and services then can he claim he didn’t receive the item and then leave me without a gun and money? View Quote You’ll be sending it to his dealer, not directly to him, so if there’s a signature required they’ll be the one signing for it. He can’t really say he didn’t receive it if his dealer signed for it and logged it into their bound book. |
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I've recently started using Zelle, my bank offers it for free.
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What is his feedback like? You can tell a lot if he has extensive feedback. I've done deals on here where I've shipped first to someone with a ton of feedback as a buyer and they paid me after they receiver it then left me quality feedback.
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Unfortunately he has zero feedback as he just created an account.
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id only use paypal FF with zero comments or a money order/cashiers check unless the guy has great feedback over 50 then id be possibly more flexible--i have many transactions and have only been screwed over once as a buyer and it was because i used zell and the seller swore that the ammo he sent was twice as much as he actually sent..even doing the math on his shipping weight showed him that was impossible zell left zero way to get any recourse .
overall the EE has been great for me. |
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You are sending the rifle to a third party FFL. They will sign for it. Just take PayPal goods and services. Use the rifle serial number as the item number.
Good luck. |
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Quoted: USPS money order, no ship until you get it View Quote This^ As others have said, using PayPal for firearm related purchases is a violation of their terms and your account will get locked...good luck getting your account/ money back. Unscrupulous buyers can do a charge back on FF as mentioned. I would not deal with a new member with zero feedback unless they agreed to my terms...USPS MO or Cashier's check. Item doesn't ship until MO cashed / check clears +2 weeks. I've had several high dollar transactions on here and all have gone smooth if the terms are clear. |
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Quoted: And even then I wait 2 weeks. They can be bogus also. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: USPS money order, no ship until you get it And even then I wait 2 weeks. They can be bogus also. You can cash USPS MO's at USPS. Actually my counter lady loves it when I walk in with a fist full of MO's- it's less cash for her to count at the end of the day. |
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So I checked with his FFL who he wants me to ship to.
His FFL sent me his FFL information and it’s legit. The guy is also a LEO and he sent me his credentials. Does that make the deal more secure? Thanks for all the help. |
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I'd be pretty comfortable with it.
But remember, the part about no gun words in the description is CRITICAL. |
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Quoted: This^ As others have said, using PayPal for firearm related purchases is a violation of their terms and your account will get locked...good luck getting your account/ money back. Unscrupulous buyers can do a charge back on FF as mentioned. I would not deal with a new member with zero feedback unless they agreed to my terms...USPS MO or Cashier's check. Item doesn't ship until MO cashed / check clears +2 weeks. I've had several high dollar transactions on here and all have gone smooth if the terms are clear. View Quote I also follow this method and have never had an issue. When ever a buyer has had “time” issues or will only pay via x method they are schetchy and I move on. I definitely would not use pp with anyone I don’t know. Hth |
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Thanks for the advice guys. My mailbox was full so apologies to anyone trying to PM me.
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Zelle is available at most banks, sign up through your mobile banking app. It's by far the easiest and what I use mainly.
Venmo is pretty easy, but a part of paypal but for some reason seems less risky than using PP. Privacy can be an issue, your contacts can see your transactions sometimes and the comments. Good for a laugh. Can probably lock this part down, but IDC what my contacts see. Crypto is solid. Cashapp is another but I haven't bothered to try it. None of these provide any protections for the buyer though. No way I'd use paypal, they can lock your funds, too many incidents of people getting screwed. I use it for postage so getting mine locked isn't worth the potential for hassle, not to mention holding money hostage. |
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Quoted: You can cash USPS MO's at USPS. Actually my counter lady loves it when I walk in with a fist full of MO's- it's less cash for her to count at the end of the day. View Quote My PO refuses to cash a MO over $100. Under that amount is a maybe. “I don’t have that much cash” is what they are told to say. If someone buys a large MO directly ahead of me, the supervisor takes the cash out of the drawer before the next customer is served. Grr You can deposit a USPS MO at your bank. |
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Quoted: USPS money order, no ship until you get it View Quote To make sure that the money order is legit, you can go to the post office as soon as you get it, and buy a new money order for the same amount paying for it with your money order. That way, even they send you fake ones, your are good. I read that on here as advice before. Ive never tried to do that for what will probably be a 2k+ worth of money orders... |
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Quoted: To make sure that the money order is legit, you can go to the post office as soon as you get it, and buy a new money order for the same amount paying for it with your money order. That way, even they send you fake ones, your are good. I read that on here as advice before. Ive never tried to do that for what will probably be a 2k+ worth of money orders... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: USPS money order, no ship until you get it To make sure that the money order is legit, you can go to the post office as soon as you get it, and buy a new money order for the same amount paying for it with your money order. That way, even they send you fake ones, your are good. I read that on here as advice before. Ive never tried to do that for what will probably be a 2k+ worth of money orders... Might be an interesting option w/ a large one. Convert it to a new one or ones and then go deposit them. Or make them into however many it would be at $100 or less and then cash them one at a time. |
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I found another option called guntab. Anyone here used guntab?
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I got some USPS MOs, plural, to buy a scope a few weeks ago.
Had to get multiple because there is a $1k limit. And, I had to give them my ID. |
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Lol he wants your rifle .I wouldn’t us PayPal for anything over $400 .have him send you a cashiers check from a known bank . I did that with my Repr and the bank teller called and verified it and let me know it was good . Your the seller . Your terms
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Just my humble opinion, but with a rifle like that...you can afford to be choosy and set terms. I wouldn’t mess around with weird conditions and such, as you can easily move on to the next buyer.
In addition to all the good advice you have already gotten, I would add a way to “show good faith” if there is a concern is utilize your LGS (for a fee) as a third party. Ship through them. Show that they already have merchandise. |
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Using PayPal for gun transactions is a terrible plan for everyone involved. Abort.
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Yeah I think that deal is basically not going to work out based on not coming to an agreement in payment method.
Thanks for the advice. |
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Quoted: To make sure that the money order is legit, you can go to the post office as soon as you get it, and buy a new money order for the same amount paying for it with your money order. That way, even they send you fake ones, your are good. I read that on here as advice before. Ive never tried to do that for what will probably be a 2k+ worth of money orders... View Quote If they sent you a fake one that you used to buy another money order with. USPS will get their $$$ back from you. Hint, they may know where you live. |
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Quoted: Lol he wants your rifle .I wouldn’t us PayPal for anything over $400 .have him send you a cashiers check from a known bank . I did that with my Repr and the bank teller called and verified it and let me know it was good . Your the seller . Your terms View Quote Link to the ad would be nice, but I can't find one. |
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Quoted: Larue FDE Limited Edition View Quote Am I reading your ad right, $900 for the .260 barrel? |
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Quoted: Am I reading your ad right, $900 for the .260 barrel? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Yes that’s right. It has the $99 Larue Tranquilo break installed from the factory. It’s still in the plastic wrapper and I have not opened it. Brand new. |
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Quoted: Yes that’s right. It has the $99 Larue Tranquilo break installed from the factory. It’s still in the plastic wrapper and I have not opened it. Brand new. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Yes that’s right. It has the $99 Larue Tranquilo break installed from the factory. It’s still in the plastic wrapper and I have not opened it. Brand new. IM sent. |
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Quoted: IM sent. View Quote I updated and dropped all my prices. Thanks for kindly pointing out that I had that mispriced. I was looking at wrong information when I figured the price of the barrel. I’ve decided to just add it as a $300 additional price to what I’m asking on the rifle. Not sure if I will sell the barrel separately unless the rifle first sells. |
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I will no longer sell to anyone on the EE if they are less than a few years here, with some posting or other feedback score.
Certainly not a big ticket item. |
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Quoted: I will no longer sell to anyone on the EE if they are less than a few years here, with some posting or other feedback score. Certainly not a big ticket item. View Quote I am with you on this one...The only transactions that ever went bad for me was for a sling and some mags, both with people with good feedback... |
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Quoted: Using PayPal for a firearm is a violation of their terms. If either of you have an issue with the transaction I doubt PayPal would be of any assistance and would likely suspend your accounts. View Quote Right here. If this buyer is hesitant at all, it seems like a bad deal from the start. You have positive feedback on here and you're selling an expensive firearm. I would be leary, personally with that kind of dialogue before a sale. I had the same reservations when I made my first couple of higher-end purchases for glass and rifles on ARF, but never voiced them to the seller. I did some old-fashioned internet research on the seller. The EE runs on trust and of course feedback. I would wait until someone more confident in the transaction comes along if the buyer is still nervous and hesitant. Say there is a hiccup with shipping or something else completely out of your hands and he gets nervous and squirrelly...You don't want PayPal to lock your account because of some unforeseen circumstance. You'll be out the $ and a great limited edition rifle. Assure him it's OK and you're not here to screw him or tell him to pund salt and wait for another buyer. |
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The rifle is sold pending funds and I took y’all’s advice and am getting a cashier check and waiting for the funds to clear.
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Quoted: I updated and dropped all my prices. Thanks for kindly pointing out that I had that mispriced. I was looking at wrong information when I figured the price of the barrel. I’ve decided to just add it as a $300 additional price to what I’m asking on the rifle. Not sure if I will sell the barrel separately unless the rifle first sells. View Quote I’m selling the .260 barrel separately now. I was previously sent the link to the .260 stealth barrel showing it costs $400 new and after that I dropped the price to $300 with the rifle. I just called Larue because I wanted to make sure that the barrel I have was the same as the stealth barrel since I have never owned a stealth barrel and I’m going to sell it separately. When I talked to Larue, the guy told me the stealth barrel is NOT the same barrel because the one I have has a PST switch like the PredatOBR barrels do. I confirmed by looking on my barrel that it is a 260 barrel and it does have the PST switch. Therefore I think my barrel is worth significantly more than what the stealth barrels are worth so I’m going to have to update the price. The equivalent 7.62 PredatOBR barrel with the wrench and Larue brake costs $850+shipping new. There is currently no option to buy this barrel I’m selling and it’s brand new in the wrapper with the brand new wrench and Larue factory installed muzzle break. That’s why I had originally priced it at $900 shipped since I thought that is what Larue charges and since they don’t offer this barrel for sale I thought that would be a fair price.l in the current market. Anyways, I feel like I need to clarify this since I’m going to update my pricing. I think I will price this at $700 shipped which is approximately $200 less that what Larue charges for the equivalent 7.62 barrel, wrench, muzzle brake, and shipping. Considering Larue doesn’t currently sell this barrel I don’t feel this price is unfair. But I will lower the price as needed until the barrel sells. I’m a motivated seller and will listen to offers. |
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