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Posted: 9/7/2020 6:20:45 PM EDT
Brownells Colt lowers with a brace added getting over $1500.
Once sold for as little as about $180. I am sitting on a few of them. Fighting back selling them. High demand for them since they are the only Colt lower that is pistol eligible. Add a nice 10.3 or 11.5 Colt upper and beat the SBR hassle with a brace. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/877866664 |
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The world is chock full of retarded people.
Nothing new. Aa for "only lowers pistol eligible".... not the case. AU sold a shit ton of stripped/virgin Colt lowers. Eta pic: Attached File Commando stripped/virgin lowers as well. |
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AU does and did sell lowers.
Can you prove by paperwork they were stripped or pistol eligible lowers from Colt. That is the key. AND what customers want. The Brownells ones have box and paperwork proof. Others do not. For the AU lowers you have no 100% proof absent getting a SN letter from Colt. |
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Quoted: AU does and did sell lowers. Can you prove by paperwork they were stripped lowers from Colt. That is the key. AND what customers want. The Brownells ones have box and paperwork proof. Others do not. For the AU lowers you have no 100% proof absent getting a SN letter from Colt. View Quote |
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Quoted: AU does and did sell lowers. Can you prove by paperwork they were stripped lowers from Colt. That is the key. AND what customers want. The Brownells ones have box and paperwork proof. Others do not. For the AU lowers you have no 100% proof. View Quote Single telephone call to Colt confirmed, left the factory as virgin receivers. And yes, I've got a few of the Brownells labeled as SPARES as well, much more convenient from a seller's standpoint. But then again, I am not in the business of "customers". To each their own. Eta: as for AU selling virgin/stripped lowers, my understanding is that that ship has sailed. |
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Quoted: AU does and did sell lowers. Can you prove by paperwork they were stripped or pistol eligible lowers from Colt. That is the key. AND what customers want. The Brownells ones have box and paperwork proof. Others do not. For the AU lowers you have no 100% proof absent getting a SN letter from Colt. View Quote Prove the ones from Brownell'swere then also ... And prove to who ? |
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Quoted: What does that mean , prove by paperwork that brand new stripped lowers are exactly that ? Prove the ones from Brownell'swere then also ... And prove to who ? View Quote The Brownells/Colt lowers were sold/labeled as SPARES. Virgin, confirmed by Brownells and Colt. It's a major selling point for those who gouge the nitwits that are paying these fuckey prices for a $220 lower. |
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Quoted: Brownells Colt lowers with a brace added getting over $1500. Once sold for as little as about $180. I am sitting on a few of them. Fighting back selling them. High demand for them since they are the only Colt lower that is pistol eligible. Add a nice 10.3 or 11.5 Colt upper and beat the SBR hassle with a brace. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/877866664 View Quote I have one and I would not sell it for $1500. 2k minimum and I still would not sell at this time. As far as I know these are the only documented pistol legal Colt lowers. They came from Brownells in the factory box marked Model SP633784 Complete Lower Receiver Semi-Auto SPARES. I can see someone who wants to build a legal Colt pistol easily paying 2k. Some states do not allow SBR's and some just don't want the hassle. I see some posting AU sold them but they don't have a box and paper trail like the Brownells. A phone call to Colt does not cut it unless they send you documentation. It has to be in writing. |
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Seriously ... what're you gonna walk around with a receipt and / or the box to 'prove' it ... ?
By the time you'd need to prove shit it they'd already have you gun and you'd need more than either of those items to get it back . Both Brownells and AU sold new Colt lowers - AU's were stripped and Brownells were 1 second short of being a rifle ... |
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Quoted: Seriously ... what're you gonna walk around with a receipt and / or the box to 'prove' it ... ? By the time you'd need to prove shit it they'd already have you gun and you'd need more than either of those items to get it back . Both Brownells and AU sold new Colt lowers - AU's were stripped and Brownells were 1 second short of being a rifle ... View Quote You are missing the point. They buyer is paying big money for the concrete proof the lower they build into a pistol is legal. Second is the solid collector/investment value of that lower along with it's original box. This is a very safe bet that will only change if Colt decides to sell replacement lowers again or the NFA laws change and neither is very likely. What is being missed is that these lowers only ORIGINALLY sold for under $250 but the original price has nothing to do with current value. No one is ripping off anybody. You can't get these lowers anymore and there are far far more people that want them than there is supply. Who wouldn't buy a 68 L88 Corvette today for the original price of 6K? Talk about price gouging those cars sell today north of half a mil. It's the same thing. |
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Whatever blows your skirts up.
Send me $3k PP/Friends and I'll shit a couple up. As far as "documentation".....when the manufacturer tells me what it left their factory as, it is a confirmed fact. Regardless of who sold what and how it was transferred. Next, seller's will be asking $1500 for the lowers with an add on, $500 for the box. (I mean, "documentation".) Shit is only worth what one is willing to pay for it. $220 sounded right for me. To each their own. |
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I think that seller is tied into charlie's custom clones somehow. Hence the price gouge.
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Quoted: Not a isolated auction. Not a panic price. Retarded yes. Very conflicted about selling some. Not because I think it is taking advantage of buyers but because I love them and they are new in boxes. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The world is chock full of retarded people. Nothing new. Not a isolated auction. Not a panic price. Retarded yes. Very conflicted about selling some. Not because I think it is taking advantage of buyers but because I love them and they are new in boxes. I made the mistake of mentioning to my wife how much they are selling for. She immediately said....."Why don't you sell yours?" |
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Quoted: I made the mistake of mentioning to my wife how much they are selling for. She immediately said....."Why don't you sell yours?" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The world is chock full of retarded people. Nothing new. Not a isolated auction. Not a panic price. Retarded yes. Very conflicted about selling some. Not because I think it is taking advantage of buyers but because I love them and they are new in boxes. I made the mistake of mentioning to my wife how much they are selling for. She immediately said....."Why don't you sell yours?" Yup, you gotta be careful. Have to show they are safe investments but not so much that you get "great, lets sell them and remodel the kitchen". LOL |
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Quoted: Yup, you gotta be careful. Have to show they are safe investments but not so much that you get "great, lets sell them and remodel the kitchen". LOL View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The world is chock full of retarded people. Nothing new. Not a isolated auction. Not a panic price. Retarded yes. Very conflicted about selling some. Not because I think it is taking advantage of buyers but because I love them and they are new in boxes. I made the mistake of mentioning to my wife how much they are selling for. She immediately said....."Why don't you sell yours?" Yup, you gotta be careful. Have to show they are safe investments but not so much that you get "great, lets sell them and remodel the kitchen". LOL Too true..... She already got the kitchen remodel, she said we could pay for half of the WNFR Tickets (Rodeo usually in Las Vegas, this year in Arlington, TX) |
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I am glad I have both the Brownell's and AU Colt lowers. The Brownell's has a Colt 6945 upper and the AU has Colt 6933 upper on it for now.
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Quoted: This may be a stupid question, I got mine at Brownells, but what is AU? https://i.imgur.com/CtBkQ5k.jpg View Quote AU= Arms Unlimited. Out of Las Vegas. They sell a lot of unique direct from the Colt factory stuff. |
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Quoted: The world is chock full of retarded people. Nothing new. Aa for "only lowers pistol eligible".... not the case. AU sold a shit ton of stripped/virgin Colt lowers. Eta pic: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/416992/Screenshot_20200907-172714_Gallery_jpg-1581809.JPG Commando stripped/virgin lowers as well. View Quote I have one just like that, but it came as part of a 6720. |
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Quoted: I should have bought more. IMO, it's crazy to spend that kind of money when $200 and a little bit of time will get you a stamp. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I should've bought one or two, but I didn't need any. IMO, it's crazy to spend that kind of money when $200 and a little bit of time will get you a stamp. Not that I'd pay $1,500 for one, but there are some people, like me, who don't want a stamp even if it were free. |
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View Quote Kind of alike but not the same. AU sold some of them as legit stripped, pistol eligible lowers. IIRC, they had the ones from the 6720, AR15a2 marked 6520, piston carbine, 9mm with stripped upper, and the elusive Commando. May have been a few others. I remember seeing them at the time, I only wish I would have bought a few of each one. |
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Wow, low production number sought after things are valuable, whoda thunk it?
Lots of things in the firearm world are like that, people can laugh and say THEY wouldn't pay that kind of money but some others will. Just look at MG's and prices today and what they were prior to 86. Or a Singer 1911A1, 6 figures for a pristine example of a firearm that was low production number and extremely sought after. Hell, I look for GI .45's and even I can't justify that but someone else can. More power to them. |
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Quoted: I have one and I would not sell it for $1500. 2k minimum and I still would not sell at this time. As far as I know these are the only documented pistol legal Colt lowers. They came from Brownells in the factory box marked Model SP633784 Complete Lower Receiver Semi-Auto SPARES. I can see someone who wants to build a legal Colt pistol easily paying 2k. Some states do not allow SBR's and some just don't want the hassle. I see some posting AU sold them but they don't have a box and paper trail like the Brownells. A phone call to Colt does not cut it unless they send you documentation. It has to be in writing. View Quote I‘m with yeah, I have a few I wouldn’t sell either wish I would have bought a few more. MSRP was $350 after discounts people were paying around $200/$250. I paid $315 with there 10% off coupon & I was happy with that. Attached File |
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Quoted: I‘m with yeah, I have a few I wouldn’t sell either wish I would have bought a few more. MSRP was $350 after discounts people were paying around $200/$250. I paid $315 with there 10% off coupon & I was happy with that. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/236598/4F3D9E5E-6691-4A11-BABD-C39F6E1220AF_jpe-1589484.JPG View Quote me too! with discounts i got them for about $180 shipped. sale price plus 10% discount plus free shipping plus 7-11% AJ discount. i see no down side to hanging on to them. not for sale. but would trade if i found a nice SP1. |
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Quoted: Brownells Colt lowers with a brace added getting over $1500. High demand for them since they are the only Colt lower that is pistol eligible. Add a nice 10.3 or 11.5 Colt upper and beat the SBR hassle with a brace. View Quote I have a friend who sold 4 for $2,5000 on GB. Market comes and goes. See here: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/876664072 Here's one for $1,950. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/879099040 Someone commented upon price gouging. This is all free market. We can look in bewilderment, but have you tried to price ammo recently? |
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Quoted: I have a friend who sold 4 for $2,5000 on GB. Market comes and goes. See here: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/876664072 Here's one for $1,950. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/879099040 Someone commented upon price gouging. This is all free market. We can look in bewilderment, but have you tried to price ammo recently? View Quote H O L Y S H I T!! |
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Quoted: The world is chock full of retarded people. Nothing new. Aa for "only lowers pistol eligible".... not the case. AU sold a shit ton of stripped/virgin Colt lowers. Eta pic: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/416992/Screenshot_20200907-172714_Gallery_jpg-1581809.JPG Commando stripped/virgin lowers as well. View Quote Yeah, not so sure what AU sells. Some were virgin lowers, many were stripped rifles. I made the mistake of buying an “SBR lower” from them, to have my dealer tell me you cannot buy an SBR lower, as an SBR needs to be a rifle. Well, they had stripped the upper off to sell. They sell a lot of parts and lowers which may or may not have come from Colt as lowers. The only one s I trust as the ones with the lower box |
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Quoted: Yeah, not so sure what AU sells. Some were virgin lowers, many were stripped rifles. I made the mistake of buying an “SBR lower” from them, to have my dealer tell me you cannot buy an SBR lower, as an SBR needs to be a rifle. Well, they had stripped the upper off to sell. They sell a lot of parts and lowers which may or may not have come from Colt as lowers. The only one s I trust as the ones with the lower box View Quote yup, buyers like the box proof. easy fast proof and a traceable history. others......... call to Colt. doable but not perfect. Colt letter, ideal. I even keep a copy of the 4473. Colt to Brownells to dealer to me. Sellers assurance, nope! If someone offered me $2500 I could not pass that up. I love my stash but that is a price that is too hard to resist. |
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This thread is sucks and should be deleted ...
The 'information' being spewed here is going to confuse people wanting to learn something or reference for years ... Most of what's posted here is purely related to the climate at the moment and some of you's basing what you're typing on feelings and braggery of this particular Colt piece . Anyone reading this and researching / looking for legit information on what's what when it comes to stripped Colt lowers please do yourself a favor and keep researching and reading . I'll say nothing more in this thread . |
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Quoted: This thread is sucks and should be deleted ... The 'information' being spewed here is going to confuse people wanting to learn something or reference for years ... Most of what's posted here is purely related to the climate at the moment and some of you's basing what you're typing on feelings and braggery of this particular Colt piece . Anyone reading this and researching / looking for legit information on what's what when it comes to stripped Colt lowers please do yourself a favor and keep researching and reading . I'll say nothing more in this thread . View Quote LOL Things to learn? Learn this......... Colt products are very collectable. Discontinued Colt products often get insanely high prices. These lowers are discontinued as far as Colt selling any more SPARE lowers. That is the knowledge you need to be taking from this discussion. New AR buyers.......... Buy a Colt over a budget AR. Quality of much lower priced ARs could be better but the collectability is not. |
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I bought one, but damn, I wish I would have kept the box to prove it. I’d sell it for $1500 in a heartbeat.
Does Colt provide verifications? |
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Not an expert here; but if you build a virgin receiver into a pistol and convert it into a rifle; it can not be converted back to a pistol without a stamp? Once a rifle always a rifle? I'm sure this has been covered on ARF somewhere.
So on that premise, even if you confirm a lower was a virgin from the factory (whether it be a letter from the factory or the highly collectable "spares" box); you would need provenance from the seller ensuring it was never assembled into a rifle. It's always a buyers risk, and they will have to use their best judgement when dealing with a seller. Didn't Brownell's sell the complete lowers and striped lowers? I wonder how the complete lowers are listed as being ship from Colt as ? Best wishes to everyone who commented here. I'm just trying to decide what to do with that "Commando" lower now. |
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If first built as a rifle, always a rifle.
If first built as a pistol it can go back and forth but if going to a rifle you need to make sure barrel length is legal. |
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Quoted: Not an expert here; but if you build a virgin receiver into a pistol and convert it into a rifle; it can not be converted back to a pistol without a stamp? Once a rifle always a rifle? I'm sure this has been covered on ARF somewhere. So on that premise, even if you confirm a lower was a virgin from the factory (whether it be a letter from the factory or the highly collectable "spares" box); you would need provenance from the seller ensuring it was never assembled into a rifle. It's always a buyers risk, and they will have to use their best judgement when dealing with a seller. Didn't Brownell's sell the complete lowers and striped lowers? I wonder how the complete lowers are listed as being ship from Colt as ? Best wishes to everyone who commented here. I'm just trying to decide what to do with that "Commando" lower now. View Quote No! You can change a pistol into rifle and back into a pistol all you want. That " once a rifle always a rifle" is only when it starts out Life as a rifle. |
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Quoted: This thread is sucks and should be deleted ... The 'information' being spewed here is going to confuse people wanting to learn something or reference for years ... Most of what's posted here is purely related to the climate at the moment and some of you's basing what you're typing on feelings and braggery of this particular Colt piece . Anyone reading this and researching / looking for legit information on what's what when it comes to stripped Colt lowers please do yourself a favor and keep researching and reading . I'll say nothing more in this thread . View Quote not sure what your point is. |
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Wha!?!?!?!
I have 8 of them just sitting lmao. Very tempted to sell (but probably wont) |
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Quoted: Wow, low production number sought after things are valuable, whoda thunk it? Lots of things in the firearm world are like that, people can laugh and say THEY wouldn't pay that kind of money but some others will. Just look at MG's and prices today and what they were prior to 86. Or a Singer 1911A1, 6 figures for a pristine example of a firearm that was low production number and extremely sought after. Hell, I look for GI .45's and even I can't justify that but someone else can. More power to them. View Quote I remember getting a couple for like $179 at peak low price & discount lol |
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Quoted: Not an expert here; but if you build a virgin receiver into a pistol and convert it into a rifle; it can not be converted back to a pistol without a stamp? Once a rifle always a rifle? I'm sure this has been covered on ARF somewhere. So on that premise, even if you confirm a lower was a virgin from the factory (whether it be a letter from the factory or the highly collectable "spares" box); you would need provenance from the seller ensuring it was never assembled into a rifle. It's always a buyers risk, and they will have to use their best judgement when dealing with a seller. Didn't Brownell's sell the complete lowers and striped lowers? I wonder how the complete lowers are listed as being ship from Colt as ? Best wishes to everyone who commented here. I'm just trying to decide what to do with that "Commando" lower now. View Quote This is not correct. I believe once it leaves the FACTORY as a rifle it is always ONLY a rifle. If it leaves as a lower only or "other" then it can be whatever, depending. Can go back and forth. |
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I bet a whole 6920 will sell for $2000 soon
Got a few of them myself |
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Quoted: This is not correct. I believe once it leaves the FACTORY as a rifle it is always ONLY a rifle. If it leaves as a lower only or "other" then it can be whatever, depending. Can go back and forth. View Quote Someone with a little more knowledge may correct but as far as I understand it can only go back and forth IF it was first built as a pistol. Obviously a rifle that left the factory was first built as a rifle and can’t ever be a pistol. If the end user of the lower only or “other” first put it into a rifle configuration, by law it can’t ever be a pistol. If built as a pistol first, it can go back and forth as long as barrel length is 16”+ for the rifle. |
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Quoted: Someone with a little more knowledge may correct but as far as I understand it can only go back and forth IF it was first built as a pistol. Obviously a rifle that left the factory was first built as a rifle and can’t ever be a pistol. If the end user of the lower only or “other” first put it into a rifle configuration, by law it can’t ever be a pistol. If built as a pistol first, it can go back and forth as long as barrel length is 16”+ for the rifle. View Quote ^^^ this But the build is in the hands of the owner, once he buys a virgin lower. He can build a pistol, and the firearm will still have been transfered to him as a lower for ATF paper trail. Now, take a picture of your pistol build after buying the lower, and you are correct, you can now make a rifle and go back again. It is a crazy area of gun law. As long as you are receiving the item as a lower from the FFL, the paper trail ends. |
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