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Posted: 2/14/2020 3:59:45 PM EDT
Got my BRN-180M lower, going to mate it with my ARAK 21 upper. Still deciding on what options are available for folding stocks
Those that have the BRN-180/BRN-180M Lower, what folding stocks do have on your lowers or what is available. Pics would be most helpful. |
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I’m running the sig mcx minimalist and it’s really too short.I think I’ll be switching over to one of the lage options.
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This Sig Adapter is great to adapt any current off the shelf buffer tubes/stocks.
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View Quote Looking to see what stocks interface with a pic rail other than MPX stocks and PSA triangle braces. |
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Get one of the Lage manufacturing 5 degree drop folders and mount it to your stock of choice. Clears the ejection port on a right side fold.
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Here is a Lage stock on a regular lower, but the same setup could be used on a BRN lower.
Attached File Picture is a setup I helped an SOT friend pick out. |
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Quoted: Here is a Lage stock on a regular lower, but the same setup could be used on a BRN lower. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/40084/10095_jpeg-1346775.JPG Picture is a setup I helped an SOT friend setup. View Quote Was hoping there was an adjustable stock option (think ACR or SCAR type stock). I did see the MCX adjustable folding stock and it is expensive and ugly as sin. |
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Quoted: Not bad. Not a bad KISS option at all. Was hoping there was an adjustable stock option (think ACR or SCAR type stock). I did see the MCX adjustable folding stock and it is expensive and ugly as sin. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Here is a Lage stock on a regular lower, but the same setup could be used on a BRN lower. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/40084/10095_jpeg-1346775.JPG Picture is a setup I helped an SOT friend setup. Was hoping there was an adjustable stock option (think ACR or SCAR type stock). I did see the MCX adjustable folding stock and it is expensive and ugly as sin. We both went with similar setups. Both with the 5 degree folder so that the stock would clear the ejection port and allow the gun to fired from the folded position in an emergency. |
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Black Collar Arms stock link
Attached File TheTruthAboutGuns.com did a review of the BRN-180S and had it on there along with a few others link I'll probably stick with the FS1913A. |
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Quoted: Here is a Lage stock on a regular lower, but the same setup could be used on a BRN lower. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/40084/10095_jpeg-1346775.JPG Picture is a setup I helped an SOT friend pick out. View Quote @Bye_Felicia What stock adapter are you using to make that work with the lower? Thanks. |
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Quoted: @Bye_Felicia What stock adapter are you using to make that work with the lower? Thanks. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Here is a Lage stock on a regular lower, but the same setup could be used on a BRN lower. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/40084/10095_jpeg-1346775.JPG Picture is a setup I helped an SOT friend pick out. @Bye_Felicia What stock adapter are you using to make that work with the lower? Thanks. StormWerkz http://stormwerkz.com/accessories/ar-thread-receiver-block/ The block, an end plate and the Lage 5 degree 'K' stock. |
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Quoted: StormWerkz http://stormwerkz.com/accessories/ar-thread-receiver-block/ The block, an end plate and the Lage 5 degree 'K' stock. View Quote Thank you. |
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Quoted: StormWerkz http://stormwerkz.com/accessories/ar-thread-receiver-block/ The block, an end plate and the Lage 5 degree 'K' stock. View Quote @Bye_Felicia I just received the recv'r block from stormwerkz but can figure out how to index it so that the stock sits correctly. Any tricks to get this thing lined up and solid? |
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Quoted: @Bye_Felicia I just received the recv'r block from stormwerkz but can figure out how to index it so that the stock sits correctly. Any tricks to get this thing lined up and solid? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: StormWerkz http://stormwerkz.com/accessories/ar-thread-receiver-block/ The block, an end plate and the Lage 5 degree 'K' stock. @Bye_Felicia I just received the recv'r block from stormwerkz but can figure out how to index it so that the stock sits correctly. Any tricks to get this thing lined up and solid? @pdm The Storm werks insert has two threaded and two non threaded holes. Screw it in to flush or just below flush so that the threaded holes are to the sides (Or perpendicular to the axis of the grip). The end Plate next needs to go on, this should give you enough gap for the alignment bar on the hinge to clear. screw the hinge to the storm werk insert. As it get tights it will pull it all together and it won't move. Once you are happy with how everything lines up, disassemble it all and use blue locktite to make sure nothing moves. I can take pictures if the above doesn't work. But I have to go to the shop to get them. |
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Quoted: @pdm The Storm werks insert has two threaded and two non threaded holes. Screw it in to flush or just below flush so that the threaded holes are to the sides (Or perpendicular to the axis of the grip). The end Plate next needs to go on, this should give you enough gap for the alignment bar on the hinge to clear. screw the hinge to the storm werk insert. As it get tights it will pull it all together and it won't move. Once you are happy with how everything lines up, disassemble it all and use blue locktite to make sure nothing moves. I can take pictures if the above doesn't work. But I have to go to the shop to get them. View Quote Perfect! Thanks for taking the time to answer. One final...did you use 2 end plates.....one to hold the push pin spring in and one to align the stock? Edit: just remembered you used the Lage stock. Thanks again. |
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I just purchased the BRN-180 lower from Brownells that has a Picatinny rail instead of a buffer tube hole. I want to mount a double star galil tubular stock with a left side folding adapter. stormwerkz makes good side folding adapters but I can't find an adapter that interfaces with the double star 2 screw lock and picatinny rail. anyone have any suggestions??
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Quoted: I just purchased the BRN-180 lower from Brownells that has a Picatinny rail instead of a buffer tube hole. I want to mount a double star galil tubular stock with a left side folding adapter. stormwerkz makes good side folding adapters but I can't find an adapter that interfaces with the double star 2 screw lock and picatinny rail. anyone have any suggestions?? View Quote i own a number of stormwerkz products. most are great. but their folding assy is a piece of junk compared to others out there. it is aluminum, gritty, poorly designed and takes excessive force to close/fold. the force and exact leverage needed to operate is the main issue. the one i own is not defective. they just suck. in general, aluminum is a poor material to use for a folding assy. steel needs to be used for a smooth nice fold and lockup. sig got it right with their design. damn thing is smooth, easy to close and best yet, opens with no effort and locks closed tight. @brownells @brownells_ar15 please consider your upcoming folding assy to be used on BRN-180 stk to be made of steel. |
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the black collar model does not appeal to me at all.
the design lines of it are harshly sharp and look wrong. |
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I chose to use the SIG SAUER Minimalist Mini folding stock on my BRN-180. The Minimalist Plus could be a good option for those with a slightly longer reach.
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Has anyone taken the BRN 180 products through a carbine class and does anyone make a grease gun style collapsible stock for it?
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Quoted: Has anyone taken the BRN 180 products through a carbine class and does anyone make a grease gun style collapsible stock for it? View Quote Unfortunately the closest thing i have seen is from a manufacturer that doesn't exist anymore. Loki Collapsible Stock |
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Quoted: Has anyone taken the BRN 180 products through a carbine class and does anyone make a grease gun style collapsible stock for it? View Quote SIG SAUER Telescoping/Collapsible stock |
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Quoted: Quoted: Has anyone taken the BRN 180 products through a carbine class and does anyone make a grease gun style collapsible stock for it? SIG SAUER Telescoping/Collapsible stock Does this work on the BRN-180 upper? The standard MCX upper has depressions on both sides of the upper to make room for this stock. |
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Quoted: Magpul zhokov, with or without the strong arm brace. https://iili.io/dvYacv.md.png https://iili.io/dvY09p.md.png https://iili.io/dvYcSR.md.png https://iili.io/dvY1AN.md.png https://iili.io/dvYYKJ.png View Quote folds to the wrong side. much better options. |
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Quoted: Magpul zhokov, with or without the strong arm brace. https://iili.io/dvYacv.md.png https://iili.io/dvY09p.md.png https://iili.io/dvYcSR.md.png https://iili.io/dvY1AN.md.png https://iili.io/dvYYKJ.png View Quote i like that the folding stock tucks in under the charging handle, saves on storage space, more compact stowage. never mind the purists, they wouldn't have thought of going with the Zhukov in the first place. good job. |
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Quoted: i like that the folding stock tucks in under the charging handle, saves on storage space, more compact stowage. never mind the purists, they wouldn't have thought of going with the Zhukov in the first place. good job. View Quote Purist? The weapon can't be reliably fired with the stock closed. |
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Quoted: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/359239/266A6D48-60ED-45E5-B5BE-C332292FCA76_jpe-1582580.JPG Do it like this. View Quote Have you run that hard as in a 4-500 rd session? I've tried those types of stocks over the year and they seem to wear my face and cheekbone out. Just wondering what your experience with that stock is? I like the look and the minimalist aspect but also want to shoot hard with it. |
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Quoted: Have you run that hard as in a 4-500 rd session? I've tried those types of stocks over the year and they seem to wear my face and cheekbone out. Just wondering what your experience with that stock is? I like the look and the minimalist aspect but also want to shoot hard with it. View Quote Just put about 50 rounds thru it to test it out. |
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Quoted: folds to the wrong side. much better options. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Plenty of guns fold to the right. Thats actually the way prefer it. Quoted: Purist? The weapon can't be reliably fired with the stock closed. The brace can be slid down a fraction of an inch if you really want to add more clearance to shoot with it folded. Or flip it upside down and it'll fold the other way. But I don't think its an important feature. Folding "stock" is for transportation and storage. There's actually clearance as it is. Empty cases can make it out of the ejection port. Have you shot one like this and found it that its not reliable? |
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Quoted: Plenty of guns fold to the right. Thats actually the way prefer it. The brace can be slid down a fraction of an inch if you really want to add more clearance to shoot with it folded. Or flip it upside down and it'll fold the other way. But I don't think its an important feature. Folding "stock" is for transportation and storage. There's actually clearance as it is. Empty cases can make it out of the ejection port. Have you shot one like this and found it that its not reliable? View Quote from the looks and picture i see it not being able to function folded. test it and post a video. like i said, so many other better options out there. |
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Quoted: from the looks and picture i see it not being able to function folded. test it and post a video. like i said, so many other better options out there. View Quote So you have zero experience and you're spouting off at the mouth? Maybe the camera angle makes it look worse than it is. You're the one making the claim that it will be unreliable for some use case I don't even care about. You go make a video. |
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Quoted: Plenty of guns fold to the right. Thats actually the way prefer it. The brace can be slid down a fraction of an inch if you really want to add more clearance to shoot with it folded. Or flip it upside down and it'll fold the other way. But I don't think its an important feature. Folding "stock" is for transportation and storage. There's actually clearance as it is. Empty cases can make it out of the ejection port. Have you shot one like this and found it that its not reliable? View Quote My position is that if the weapon has a folding stock I want to be able to employ it when folded, if needed. While that type of use would be "in-extremis" I'd certainly want the weapon to function as designed and at 100%. I have not shot the BRN with a stock that when folded is in the vicinity of the ejection port. Have you? If so, results? You mentioned flipping the stock mount upside down. Does it function properly in that config, just folding to the L? |
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I've shot my BRN with a right folder, folded. Using the Lage 5 degree hinge the stock clears well and no issues with ejection or function. Even with the dustcover starting closed.
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Quoted: So you have zero experience and you're spouting off at the mouth? Maybe the camera angle makes it look worse than it is. You're the one making the claim that it will be unreliable for some use case I don't even care about. You go make a video. View Quote I know dog poop stinks. No reason to pick up some and smell it. |
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