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Posted: 5/3/2022 2:41:53 PM EDT
just bought a handgun at a local gunshop and they registered the weapon at DEEP?    thought it wasnt law to register ? is it new
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Link Posted: 5/3/2022 3:03:59 PM EDT
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12'ers man
Link Posted: 5/3/2022 3:54:25 PM EDT
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sorry misunderstood  what was said to me
Link Posted: 5/3/2022 5:19:53 PM EDT
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what shop is this so we all can avoid it.
Link Posted: 5/3/2022 8:21:38 PM EDT
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Connecticut does have a firearm registry. Older entries are known to contain a number of issues. You can figure some of those out just by looking at the annymized version that was released under FOIL.

Unlike some states (like New York) where all handguns are either registered or contraband (effectively), Connecticut's registry is mostly based on transfer records (i.e. submitted DPS-3 forms that go to DESPP-SLFU and the Buyer's CLEO in addition to the buyer and seller). Those records have been computerized for years. LE in Connecticut have access to information regarding permits and guns associated with an individual. The database can also be used to track a serial number/gun to an individual. Some records on the database also originate from AW Certificates of possession, MG registrations, and potentially voluntary registrations (I am unsure what the process is for that, but the CSL publishes a retention schedule for that information).

Many people will casually refer to the DPS-3 form as a registration form-though technically is a sale/transfer record. (When the AWB was passed, some people erroniously thought that they didn't need to obtain a certificate of possession because they already had a DPS-3. They were wrong.)

As bad as registration is, I personally like the DPS-3 forms. It provides a provenance for where the gun came from, in the event that the origin ever came under question. The reality is that CSP and my town already know that I'm involved with guns due to permit records. They would also already know about the NFA paperwork.

There is no prohibition against a state registry, even a computerized one. Some states have that, but Connecticut does not.  (The federal prohibition applies against ATF creating a computer database other than the NFRTR).
Link Posted: 5/3/2022 8:59:51 PM EDT
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Curious about this part.
Does this mean a random Patrol Officer can run a license plate on a vehicle, get permit information since it's linked with DMV and then pull a list of firearms that an individual owns, all while using computer located in their cruiser?
Link Posted: 5/4/2022 8:56:37 AM EDT
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Curious about this part.
Does this mean a random Patrol Officer can run a license plate on a vehicle, get permit information since it's linked with DMV and then pull a list of firearms that an individual owns, all while using computer located in their cruiser?
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LE in Connecticut have access to information regarding permits and guns associated with an individual


Curious about this part.
Does this mean a random Patrol Officer can run a license plate on a vehicle, get permit information since it's linked with DMV and then pull a list of firearms that an individual owns, all while using computer located in their cruiser?


With the new system yes. Otherwise the dispatch can tell them
Link Posted: 5/4/2022 8:57:12 AM EDT
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It's defacto registration
Link Posted: 5/4/2022 12:42:26 PM EDT
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It is not DEEP (Department of Energy and Environmental Protection) that receives the DPS-3-C from firearm sales and transfers, it is DESPP (Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection). More specifically the Special Licensing and Firearms Unit of DESPP. While the DPS-3-C form is a "Sale or Transfer of All Firearms" form, SLFU take that information (and information from other forms/sources) and in puts it into a state weapons registry that law enforcement has access to. So yes, CT does in fact have a form of firearm registration. And that registration information is incomplete and has errors/mistakes. Nothing currently prohibits CT or other states from maintaining a register of firearms if they so choose. Generally when people say its illegal to maintain a registration of firearms they are actually talking about 18 USC §926(a)(3) that applies to the federal government:
No such rule or regulation prescribed after the date of the enactment of the Firearms Owners' Protection Act may require that records required to be maintained under this chapter or any portion of the contents of such records, be recorded at or transferred to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State or any political subdivision thereof, nor that any system of registration of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions or dispositions be established. Nothing in this section expands or restricts the Secretary's 1 authority to inquire into the disposition of any firearm in the course of a criminal investigation.

But in reality the feds do keep their own records (or registration) on certain firearms, namely NFA/tax stamp items.
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