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Posted: 4/6/2021 10:11:07 AM EDT
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Quoted: Still being new to Mo I have no idea how it works. I got my DL and licensed my car July last year. How I know when to pay How much of pay. When does my sticker expire? Really at a lose right now You should have gotten a letter in the mail from the county assessor already this year asking for you to update your cars, boats, motorcycles, trailers, etc. You list the VIN numbers for anything you owned on January 1, 2021. In October or November, you'll get a bill for those. Depending on what county you are in, you can probably log in and see what they have on file. If you sell that vehicle by Dec 31, then next year you just line through that VIN and it's somebody else's problem. Keep in mind the county assessor and the state DOR don't always share info about vehicle sales.....you're on the hook for all the paperwork. As far as your registration sticker/tag, look at the plate for when it expires. There are 1 and 2 yr stickers, but it depends on when the safety & emissions checks are due (i.e. if they are next year, then you can't get a 2yr sticker.) When you go to renew, you'll have to prove you paid personal property tax. Since you haven't been in the state long enough to pay, you'll need to get a "certificate of no tax due" from your county assessor, or most offices can pull that from the assessors website. For as cheap as they are, license plates are a pain in the @$$ in this state!!! |
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Posted: 4/6/2021 10:16:34 AM EDT
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Quoted: Still being new to Mo I have no idea how it works. I got my DL and licensed my car July last year. The form they use to assess value is sent out early in the year, and you pay tax on any personal property that you owned on January 1. You should have already gotten the form in the mail, and sent it in. How I know when to pay The bill they send (usually in December) will have a due date on it. How much of pay. https://stc.mo.gov/information/how-property-tax-bills-are-calculated/ https://stc.mo.gov/frequently-asked-questions/ When does my sticker expire? Look at your license plate, and you'll see the month it expires. Look at the sticker in the middle, and you'll see what year it expires. |
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Posted: 4/6/2021 10:19:05 AM EDT
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Here's an example, though the sticker is in a different spot.
The plate tells you that it expires in July, and the sticker tells you that it expired in 1997.  DeLorean posted while I was typing. I didn't dupe on purpose. 
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Posted: 4/6/2021 12:50:26 PM EDT
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I called he assessors office. The bill was mailed in November. Not getting mail is pretty normal.
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Posted: 4/6/2021 1:51:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I called he assessors office. The bill was mailed in November. Not getting mail is pretty normal. I never get mine either. Enjoy arguing over the fine they give you for not paying although you never got it. I went yesterday and the fucking collectors office was already closed at 2 pm 
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Posted: 4/6/2021 5:32:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I called he assessors office. The bill was mailed in November. Not getting mail is pretty normal. If you registered it for the first time in July 2020, that vehicle was not owned by you in the state of MO on Jan 1, 2020. Therefore you don't owe anything on it for 2020. You will owe taxes on it on 2021.............even if you sell or total it on Jan 2 (personal property tax is not prorated by the day like real estate taxes.) |
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Posted: 4/6/2021 7:03:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I never get mine either. Enjoy arguing over the fine they give you for not paying although you never got it. I went yesterday and the fucking collectors office was already closed at 2 pm Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I called he assessors office. The bill was mailed in November. Not getting mail is pretty normal. I never get mine either. Enjoy arguing over the fine they give you for not paying although you never got it. I went yesterday and the fucking collectors office was already closed at 2 pm Update. Went again today. Same thing. Gave the assessment side an earful. Mind you, minimum of 10 people sitting in the back fucking off. Went to the Annex and was in and out. They wouldn't waive my late fees either, even though I was unemployed due to the lockdowns last year. They gave no fucks. Fucking assholes. This was in Clay County. |
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Posted: 4/6/2021 10:37:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Update. Went again today. Same thing. Gave the assessment side an earful. Mind you, minimum of 10 people sitting in the back fucking off. Went to the Annex and was in and out. They wouldn't waive my late fees either, even though I was unemployed due to the lockdowns last year. They gave no fucks. Fucking assholes. This was in Clay County. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I called he assessors office. The bill was mailed in November. Not getting mail is pretty normal. I never get mine either. Enjoy arguing over the fine they give you for not paying although you never got it. I went yesterday and the fucking collectors office was already closed at 2 pm Update. Went again today. Same thing. Gave the assessment side an earful. Mind you, minimum of 10 people sitting in the back fucking off. Went to the Annex and was in and out. They wouldn't waive my late fees either, even though I was unemployed due to the lockdowns last year. They gave no fucks. Fucking assholes. This was in Clay County. The annex is the only one I will go to. Clay county jacked my assessments up this year A LOT. I am filing an appeal. |
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Posted: 4/6/2021 11:44:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The annex is the only one I will go to. Clay county jacked my assessments up this year A LOT. I am filing an appeal. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I called he assessors office. The bill was mailed in November. Not getting mail is pretty normal. I never get mine either. Enjoy arguing over the fine they give you for not paying although you never got it. I went yesterday and the fucking collectors office was already closed at 2 pm Update. Went again today. Same thing. Gave the assessment side an earful. Mind you, minimum of 10 people sitting in the back fucking off. Went to the Annex and was in and out. They wouldn't waive my late fees either, even though I was unemployed due to the lockdowns last year. They gave no fucks. Fucking assholes. This was in Clay County. The annex is the only one I will go to. Clay county jacked my assessments up this year A LOT. I am filing an appeal. Clay never mailed me anything and I have to go in as well. |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 3:53:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The annex is the only one I will go to. Clay county jacked my assessments up this year A LOT. I am filing an appeal. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I called he assessors office. The bill was mailed in November. Not getting mail is pretty normal. I never get mine either. Enjoy arguing over the fine they give you for not paying although you never got it. I went yesterday and the fucking collectors office was already closed at 2 pm Update. Went again today. Same thing. Gave the assessment side an earful. Mind you, minimum of 10 people sitting in the back fucking off. Went to the Annex and was in and out. They wouldn't waive my late fees either, even though I was unemployed due to the lockdowns last year. They gave no fucks. Fucking assholes. This was in Clay County. The annex is the only one I will go to. Clay county jacked my assessments up this year A LOT. I am filing an appeal. I went yesterday and the line was about 15 people deep. No line today. About the same time. I usually have good luck there, I hear a lot of bad stuff about it too. ymmv. No line either day on Liberty, but as you saw the collector side was closed. |
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Posted: 4/8/2021 6:43:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The annex is the only one I will go to. Clay county jacked my assessments up this year A LOT. I am filing an appeal. I called my county and asked if they wanted to buy my house, since they said the value went up so much this year! |
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Posted: 4/9/2021 2:07:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I called my county and asked if they wanted to buy my house, since they said the value went up so much this year! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The annex is the only one I will go to. Clay county jacked my assessments up this year A LOT. I am filing an appeal. I called my county and asked if they wanted to buy my house, since they said the value went up so much this year! Yes, I would sell the assessor my house at what they value it at now. Ridiculous. |
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Posted: 5/3/2021 9:00:52 AM EDT
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wow, it seems like they tax everything.
Is it really that bad? I lived in the St Louis area while attending a college in the mid 90's, I worked for an auto parts store so I was familiar with the car inspections and with city/county income taxes but since I was a student my car was registered in Oregon which was my home of record at the time. so I read through the link provided above, is it really as bad as it seems? I know the cost of living in central MO would be less than where I am in CO, but the taxes could potentially make that a moot issue. |
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Posted: 5/3/2021 9:08:45 AM EDT
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Educate you on personal property tax?
Simple, it's theft. |
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Posted: 5/3/2021 9:21:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Educate you on personal property tax? Simple, it's theft. exactly, I do not like the premise that property ownership is actually renting from the .gov, hence what concerns me about picking up and moving to MO full time, I am leaving CO in the next 18 months or so, and we purchased land in MO, but all the personal property taxes give me one big pause as to MO being our landing place. We will keep the property, for a get away place to camp and explore the Lake If we just owned a couple crap vehicles and a singlewide, it looks like we could get by, lol |
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Posted: 5/3/2021 9:35:18 AM EDT
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A lot of people on the east side of the state used to register cars, trailers, boats, etc with family or friends in IL. But now that IL has gotten so crazy on registration, it's cheaper to pay the tax in MO (which can be tax deductible.) Our registration and title fees are nothing compared to other states. The titling process can be a PIA, but a $52 permanent plate plus $8 a year in personal property tax, is a lot better than $120/yr in IL on a dinky little utility trailer.
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Posted: 5/3/2021 10:56:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A lot of people on the east side of the state used to register cars, trailers, boats, etc with family or friends in IL. But now that IL has gotten so crazy on registration, it's cheaper to pay the tax in MO (which can be tax deductible.) Our registration and title fees are nothing compared to other states. The titling process can be a PIA, but a $52 permanent plate plus $8 a year in personal property tax, is a lot better than $120/yr in IL on a dinky little utility trailer. That doesn't sound too bad, right now I am paying: 2018 RAV4 $375 yr 2019 Tacoma $460 yr 2021 Travel Trailer $500 yr for licensing, taxes and fees |
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Posted: 5/3/2021 11:38:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That doesn't sound too bad, right now I am paying: 2018 RAV4 $375 yr 2019 Tacoma $460 yr 2021 Travel Trailer $500 yr for licensing, taxes and fees That's usually how it is; if they don't collect it one way, they'll get it somewhere else. Western Illinois people like to buy gas in St. Louis, because Illinois fuel tax is higher. |
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Posted: 5/3/2021 5:01:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's usually how it is; if they don't collect it one way, they'll get it somewhere else. Western Illinois people like to buy gas in St. Louis, because Illinois fuel tax is higher. That's a Fact. I lived in Illinois 60+ years an hardly ever bought gas there. |
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Posted: 5/3/2021 7:21:33 PM EDT
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When we moved to Missouri the license plates for two vehicles, a 10' enclosed trailer and boat trailer came to $160. One car plate in Ill-noise, where we moved from was $150...they just upped that fee and it will cost you $200 for a license plate in Ill-noise now!
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Posted: 5/3/2021 11:19:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Educate you on personal property tax? Simple, it's theft. Damn right it is. This man knows what’s what. |
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Posted: 5/4/2021 12:05:01 AM EDT
[#22]
It's the penalty you pay for owning something.
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Posted: 5/4/2021 3:35:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: wow, it seems like they tax everything. Is it really that bad? I lived in the St Louis area while attending a college in the mid 90's, I worked for an auto parts store so I was familiar with the car inspections and with city/county income taxes but since I was a student my car was registered in Oregon which was my home of record at the time. so I read through the link provided above, is it really as bad as it seems? I know the cost of living in central MO would be less than where I am in CO, but the taxes could potentially make that a moot issue. I love MO and grew up here. But having moved back recently, I now realize it's going the wrong way. Sales taxes hovering around 10%, income taxes above 5%, effective property taxes seem to be around 1-2%. Food prices are middling. Home prices are outrageous. Wages are bad and technical jobs are few. Honestly, if my family were not here I would not stay. My effective pay is significantly lower than it was in TX, GA, SC, and NC. |
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Posted: 5/5/2021 2:12:24 PM EDT
[#24]
I agree the sales taxes are ridiculous in some places.
My little rinky dink town is 7.875% Plus the CID districts like Bass Pro is in Springfield. It's damn near 10% It's not as bad as Texas or the 10% I paid in a rinky dink town out on the Kansas prairie, but Texas doesn't have an income tax either! I honestly don't think Missouri's property taxes are that bad. I agree they shouldn't exist, but they are nowhere near what folks on the coasts pay. Some homes are $20,000 a year! |
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Posted: 5/5/2021 7:45:35 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree the sales taxes are ridiculous in some places. My little rinky dink town is 7.875% Plus the CID districts like Bass Pro is in Springfield. It's damn near 10% It's not as bad as Texas or the 10% I paid in a rinky dink town out on the Kansas prairie, but Texas doesn't have an income tax either! I honestly don't think Missouri's property taxes are that bad. I agree they shouldn't exist, but they are nowhere near what folks on the coasts pay. Some homes are $20,000 a year! Property tax in Texas hovered around 3% where I lived. Definitely nutters. But I could also buy beachfront condos for the same price as a 3bd home on 6 acres in Jefferson County. So actual tax bill wasn't very different, and you had the gulf in your backyard. |
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Posted: 5/6/2021 7:07:13 AM EDT
[#26]
I always tell the clerks that I am here to pay my annual extortion bill when I pay property taxes.
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Posted: 5/6/2021 8:37:27 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I always tell the clerks that I am here to pay my annual extortion bill when I pay property taxes. Sweet! 
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Posted: 5/7/2021 5:02:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I always tell the clerks that I am here to pay my annual extortion bill when I pay property taxes. I always say I'm going to pay on change. Haven't yet, but I get closer every year. |
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Posted: 5/12/2021 9:57:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's the penalty you pay for owning something. If the state is charging you rent on it, you don't actually own it. |
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Posted: 5/12/2021 3:53:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If the state is charging you rent on it, you don't actually own it. Most excellent ColleenTheDestroyer...hit the nail on the head! And just to add insult to injury I will never understand how this country got to the point where even when you pay your house off...miss some property tax bills, you lose your house. 'The American Dream?' Don't think so...not anymore. |
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Posted: 5/29/2021 2:29:28 AM EDT
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Update on my Missouri personal extortion.
$276 Tax in car $27 for license plate sticker. $303 total. I am from Illinois and we have no such nonsense extortions. $151 for a license plate renewal So for the privilege of living in Missouri I am paying $152 more. Damn I know sales and house taxes are much cheaper but DAMN And no I am not going back to Illinois. Saving my $$ and going to buy some land near Bennett Springs and put a mobile home on it |
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Posted: 5/29/2021 8:37:39 AM EDT
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You probably saved that much on gas though.
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Posted: 6/1/2021 4:41:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You probably saved that much on gas though. And that makes paying rent to the state on things you think you own all OK doesn't it? |
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Posted: 6/1/2021 6:40:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And that makes paying rent to the state on things you think you own all OK doesn't it? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You probably saved that much on gas though.  You're trying to justify one tax as being better than another tax? |
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Posted: 6/1/2021 7:33:14 PM EDT
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Quoted: And that makes paying rent to the state on things you think you own all OK doesn't it? Gotta agree with 'ColleenTheDestroyer' on this one. We already pay the sales/licensing/processing taxes/fees on these items when we initially purchase them. Don't need to add 'permission to use' fees also! |
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Posted: 6/1/2021 10:50:45 PM EDT
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But how is that better than a user fee on the fuel that makes the car run? That's like saying that it's wrong to tax a pen, but taxing ink is okay.
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Posted: 6/2/2021 9:30:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But how is that better than a user fee on the fuel that makes the car run? That's like saying that it's wrong to tax a pen, but taxing ink is okay. I will never agree on ANY overtaxation no matter what the government attaches it to. Illinois gas is about 55 cents and on up a gallon more than Missouri's gasoline, depending on where you live. And their property tax and licensing fees are outrageous; they are the Midwest's California. BUT nonetheless even Ill-noise does not specifically tax an item each year that you have paid for and licensed. That is the rub and the point of my conversation. I strongly believe Missouri needs to end the personal property tax. The problem lies in the fact that they will collect the needed revenue elsewhere. But maybe, just maybe, it will be an opportunity for Missouri citizens to take a long hard look at what government services are really necessary and the needed funding. It would be a strenuous, at best, revamping process for Missouri. The other side of the coin is that a Missouri citizen has some degree of control over the personal property tax by what he or she purchases. But that positive side can quickly go away once Missouri starts upping taxation on licensing, property tax, fees, etc. Then the personal property tax becomes an extra burden on tax payers. I still say, eliminate it. |
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Posted: 6/2/2021 6:03:39 PM EDT
[#38]
I agree with a lot of what you said, but not with just ending it. That gives no thought to the replacement, and I sincerely doubt that anything they come up with would be cheaper.
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Posted: 6/3/2021 2:17:46 PM EDT
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States are going to get their money one way or another. I know in some states, they do not have personal property tax, but you pay a whole lot more each and every time you renew your plates. They get you one way or the other.
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