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Posted: 11/4/2019 10:55:55 PM EDT
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What kind of night vision thermal imaging device are you using?
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Posted: 11/4/2019 11:17:03 PM EDT
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What kind of night vision thermal imaging device are you using? aurora 8010 flir |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 6:30:02 AM EDT
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It’s on my list for the future. It’s just hard to justify the cost, but do want.
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Posted: 11/5/2019 8:17:21 AM EDT
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I’ve got a handheld Pulsar but I mostly use it for scouting.
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Posted: 11/5/2019 9:47:49 AM EDT
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I’ve got a handheld Pulsar but I mostly use it for scouting. 
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Posted: 11/5/2019 5:02:27 PM EDT
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Just a lowly set of PVS-7B's. I've got a buddy with a REAP-IR. I ever win the lottery, I'll be picking one up.
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Posted: 11/5/2019 8:47:17 PM EDT
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Just a lowly set of PVS-7B's. I've got a buddy with a REAP-IR. I ever win the lottery, I'll be picking one up. Yeah that thermal is pretty crazy, Nothings hiding from you with that. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 10:49:39 PM EDT
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I have an AB micro helmet set up. I've tried to poke coyotes with it a couple times but it just doesn't give me a lot of range. Really need an IR for detection and a better illuminator for shooting under the NV.
So mostly it gets used for shooting rats in the barn
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Posted: 11/6/2019 7:04:33 AM EDT
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Honestly unless it’s a moonlit night, We all need a good IR most of the time
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Posted: 11/6/2019 10:17:38 AM EDT
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Last night was pretty good. Snow will help.
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Posted: 11/6/2019 10:41:32 AM EDT
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Last night was pretty good. Snow will help. |
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Posted: 11/6/2019 12:14:20 PM EDT
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I have an AB micro helmet set up. I've tried to poke coyotes with it a couple times but it just doesn't give me a lot of range. Really need an IR for detection and a better illuminator for shooting under the NV. So mostly it gets used for shooting rats in the barn |
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Posted: 11/6/2019 12:38:05 PM EDT
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I have an AB micro helmet set up. I've tried to poke coyotes with it a couple times but it just doesn't give me a lot of range. Really need an IR for detection and a better illuminator for shooting under the NV. So mostly it gets used for shooting rats in the barn 
I could have murdered bunnies last night. God they were everywhere. I have a S&W MP22 set up with an IR laser and can for shooting pests. The IR illuminator on my monocular may not be useful for much, but it sure makes indistinguishable bunny shaped dark spots into distinguishable sets of eyes out to 40-50 yards. Mostly I was just walking around trying to spot any deer milling about so I didn't shoot anything. |
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Posted: 11/6/2019 1:01:04 PM EDT
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I could have murdered bunnies last night. God they were everywhere. I have a S&W MP22 set up with an IR laser and can for shooting pests. The IR illuminator on my monocular may not be useful for much, but it sure makes indistinguishable bunny shaped dark spots into distinguishable sets of eyes out to 40-50 yards. Mostly I was just walking around trying to spot any deer milling about so I didn't shoot anything. |
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Posted: 11/6/2019 3:52:22 PM EDT
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I just have an atn x-sight. It works OK for what it is, and a good ir light gives me good vision out to 150yds.
Better than being blind, but it is heavy. |
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Posted: 11/6/2019 8:58:23 PM EDT
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It’s on my list for the future. It’s just hard to justify the cost, but do want. Have funds, but just can't justify cost. Unless shtf, but then it's too late to purchase, much less train with. |
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Posted: 11/6/2019 9:55:45 PM EDT
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Have a GP PVS-14, I’ll be upgrading to WP DTNVG’s next year at some point. So far I’ve smoke 14 coyotes under NODs, mainly just have fun shooting steel and messing around in the woods and on the SxS. |
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Posted: 11/6/2019 10:04:31 PM EDT
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Have a GP PVS-14, I’ll be upgrading to WP DTNVG’s next year at some point. So far I’ve smoke 14 coyotes under NODs, mainly just have fun shooting steel and messing around in the woods and on the SxS. What county are you hunting for the coyotes? I’ve got some pretty decent areas in Waushara county that I hunt. I want to get out a few times this year before gun hunting (These are not areas I deer hunt), they always seem to be pretty vocal andactive this time of year...until gun hunting they become a little bit more difficult. |
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Posted: 11/6/2019 10:19:24 PM EDT
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@USSRangerSM
Oconto and Marinette. |
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Posted: 11/6/2019 10:20:53 PM EDT
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@USSRangerSM Oconto and Marinette. |
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Posted: 11/6/2019 11:20:57 PM EDT
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I just have an atn x-sight. It works OK for what it is, and a good ir light gives me good vision out to 150yds. Better than being blind, but it is heavy. |
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Posted: 11/7/2019 1:14:25 AM EDT
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Buddy has a pulsar I think trail 50?
Videos he has sent me are amazing! Said around 5-6k if I remember right? Recently played with a flir pts 233? It was amazing! I was just in the store but looked at rifle on wall I had handled prior, grip and for end still hotter than the rest of rifle. Followed a guys foot steps around store then went outside and played around. It was around $2,200 and I want one bad now! |
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Posted: 11/7/2019 8:20:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bought one of these when Cabelas was closing out the bargain cave. I'm really not happy with it. I only tested it inside the house, but it just doesn't perform well enough for field use. |
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Posted: 11/7/2019 9:57:21 AM EDT
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Just a lowly set of PVS-7B's. I've got a buddy with a REAP-IR. I ever win the lottery, I'll be picking one up. |
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Posted: 11/7/2019 12:50:17 PM EDT
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For those of you looking for a better IR illuminator (and laser for that matter) there is a thread in the NV forum that discusses the Perst brand of lasers. They have an excellent laser based illuminator and high powered adjustable power laser that is on par with the US manufactured PEQ restricted lasers. I have a feeling that once the FDA gets wind of them, they'll ban them from import and you'll lose your chance to get them. If I didn't already have an older PEQ2 that already has that same ability, I jump on one of these in a heartbeat.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/Perst-3-lasers-/18-495277/ |
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Posted: 11/7/2019 1:02:51 PM EDT
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For those of you looking for a better IR illuminator (and laser for that matter) there is a thread in the NV forum that discusses the Perst brand of lasers. They have an excellent laser based illuminator and high powered adjustable power laser that is on par with the US manufactured PEQ restricted lasers. I have a feeling that once the FDA gets wind of them, they'll ban them from import and you'll lose your chance to get them. If I didn't already have an older PEQ2 that already has that same ability, I jump on one of these in a heartbeat. https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/Perst-3-lasers-/18-495277/ |
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Posted: 11/7/2019 1:47:52 PM EDT
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I'd love to be in the game but at the moment it's just not quite economically viable
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Posted: 11/7/2019 3:29:58 PM EDT
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Awesome, thank you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For those of you looking for a better IR illuminator (and laser for that matter) there is a thread in the NV forum that discusses the Perst brand of lasers. They have an excellent laser based illuminator and high powered adjustable power laser that is on par with the US manufactured PEQ restricted lasers. I have a feeling that once the FDA gets wind of them, they'll ban them from import and you'll lose your chance to get them. If I didn't already have an older PEQ2 that already has that same ability, I jump on one of these in a heartbeat. https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/Perst-3-lasers-/18-495277/ |
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Posted: 11/7/2019 3:56:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Perst-3 or Perst-3+ is the one that really piques my interest. That would be the one that I'd buy that I think is most similar to a PEQ in capability, and I really like the PEQ2. Up until this point I was planning on buying a Holosun LS321R, but the Perst is lightyears more performance for the price difference. |
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Posted: 11/7/2019 9:05:33 PM EDT
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Yeah I watched a couple videos linked in that thread. The Perst-3 would definitely expand my horizons and capability. I don't need a super bright green laser for anything, just a slaved visible for daytime zeroing, so saving a couple hundred bucks on that version is probably what I'll do. Up until this point I was planning on buying a Holosun LS321R, but the Perst is lightyears more performance for the price difference. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: The Perst-3 or Perst-3+ is the one that really piques my interest. That would be the one that I'd buy that I think is most similar to a PEQ in capability, and I really like the PEQ2. Up until this point I was planning on buying a Holosun LS321R, but the Perst is lightyears more performance for the price difference. I kind a struggle with the fact they are from Russia. I’m not hearing anything bad about Ivan...But still if I’m gonna spend that amount of money I want Something from this country(At least bought from a company here, That will take care of warranty here)...IDK |
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Posted: 11/8/2019 12:38:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I really like the way the laser can be use basically for an IR light for a long distance by adjusting the dot all the way out. I kind a struggle with the fact they are from Russia. I'm not hearing anything bad about Ivan...But still if I'm gonna spend that amount of money I want Something from this country(At least bought from a company here, That will take care of warranty here)...IDK |
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Posted: 11/8/2019 3:47:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/8/2019 3:49:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat looks fun!!
Where was this at? |
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Posted: 11/8/2019 9:07:07 PM EDT
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I am working on getting into the game.
Leaning toward a pvs14 first, then a thermal scope for coyotes. Maybe get a flir breetch instead of a pvs14, but I feel like I would still want night vision anyways. |
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Posted: 11/8/2019 9:13:13 PM EDT
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I am working on getting into the game. Leaning toward a pvs14 first, then a thermal scope for coyotes. Maybe get a flir breetch instead of a pvs14, but I feel like I would still want night vision anyways. I tried using a thermal scope on the gun for scanning , That is a PIA. I am using the night vision for the kill, And thermal Handheld unit for spotting. (I am not saying you shouldn’t get a thermal scope )
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Posted: 11/8/2019 10:00:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The most important part for Coyote hunting in my opinion, Is having thermal to scan with. I tried using a thermal scope on the gun for scanning , That is a PIA. I am using the night vision for the kill, And thermal Handheld unit for spotting. (I am not saying you shouldn't get a thermal scope )Then a clip on NV. Being glued to a rifle to scan sucks during the day, it's got to be even worse at night. |
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Posted: 11/8/2019 10:09:37 PM EDT
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The most important part for Coyote hunting in my opinion, Is having thermal to scan with. I tried using a thermal scope on the gun for scanning , That is a PIA. I am using the night vision for the kill, And thermal Handheld unit for spotting. (I am not saying you shouldn't get a thermal scope )Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am working on getting into the game. Leaning toward a pvs14 first, then a thermal scope for coyotes. Maybe get a flir breetch instead of a pvs14, but I feel like I would still want night vision anyways. I tried using a thermal scope on the gun for scanning , That is a PIA. I am using the night vision for the kill, And thermal Handheld unit for spotting. (I am not saying you shouldn't get a thermal scope )Also I believe using an IR laser for coyotes is illegal in WI correct? I'll have to have a separate rifle set up for IR laser training and shooting. |
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Posted: 11/8/2019 10:17:33 PM EDT
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Are you using a scope or red dot with your NV setup? Helmet mounted? Also I believe using an IR laser for coyotes is illegal in WI correct? I'll have to have a separate rifle set up for IR laser training and shooting. Or they could use the helmet and the laser Sometimes I use it on the helmet for just walking around But most of the time when I coyote hunt, my rifle has the Aurora 8010 day/night scope with a Flir 320 to scan with edit: I honestly do not know the law for that...Maybe I should
(But I you can use light for the kill shot, And I just figure it’s a light for the kill shot) |
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Posted: 11/8/2019 10:34:48 PM EDT
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PVS 7a for about 20 years now. IR laser on a G17 and AR.
Riding my ebike at night i roll up on all kinds of night visions. I don't patrol around the farm at night with headlights, they been busted out on my farm truck forever now... I picked up some serious "industrial" IR illumination for my rides on those moonless nights. My goggles were built in 85, still going strong with a few small flaws, but the clarity is spoiled on me after viewing modern gear. I had coyote hunters out with all kinds of night vision and thermal. Flew a drone over my place that had IR imaging and thermal looking for a cave entrance, that was super cool and some of the thermal hardware was not that out of line/crazy on price. I'm wavering on replacing/upgrading my 7's tubes or selling the 7 and putting the money on getting a new 14. |
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Posted: 11/8/2019 11:43:11 PM EDT
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Are you using a scope or red dot with your NV setup? Helmet mounted? Also I believe using an IR laser for coyotes is illegal in WI correct? I'll have to have a separate rifle set up for IR laser training and shooting. Scan detect with thermal Switch to NV and laser/illumination make the shot. |
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Posted: 11/9/2019 5:35:44 AM EDT
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PVS 7a for about 20 years now. IR laser on a G17 and AR. Riding my ebike at night i roll up on all kinds of night visions. I don't patrol around the farm at night with headlights, they been busted out on my farm truck forever now... I picked up some serious "industrial" IR illumination for my rides on those moonless nights. My goggles were built in 85, still going strong with a few small flaws, but the clarity is spoiled on me after viewing modern gear. I had coyote hunters out with all kinds of night vision and thermal. Flew a drone over my place that had IR imaging and thermal looking for a cave entrance, that was super cool and some of the thermal hardware was not that out of line/crazy on price. I'm wavering on replacing/upgrading my 7's tubes or selling the 7 and putting the money on getting a new 14. I have given serious thought to a drone with the thermal imaging, I think those are so cool and I would have a lot of fun with one of those. |
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Posted: 11/9/2019 7:12:34 AM EDT
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You're not allowed to scan/spot with light, only use light for the point of kill. Lasers and ir illumination is fine, to make the shot. Scan detect with thermal Switch to NV and laser/illumination make the shot. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are you using a scope or red dot with your NV setup? Helmet mounted? Also I believe using an IR laser for coyotes is illegal in WI correct? I'll have to have a separate rifle set up for IR laser training and shooting. Scan detect with thermal Switch to NV and laser/illumination make the shot. Just want to be 100% sure |
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Posted: 11/9/2019 9:49:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistorySo is this just another case of the hunting regs saying supressors and SBRs are illegal, but in reality there is no law against them?
Just want to be 100% sure |
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Posted: 11/11/2019 1:49:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That looks fun!! Where was this at? |
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Posted: 11/11/2019 7:25:16 PM EDT
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So is this just another case of the hunting regs saying supressors and SBRs are illegal, but in reality there is no law against them? Just want to be 100% sure Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are you using a scope or red dot with your NV setup? Helmet mounted? Also I believe using an IR laser for coyotes is illegal in WI correct? I'll have to have a separate rifle set up for IR laser training and shooting. Scan detect with thermal Switch to NV and laser/illumination make the shot. Just want to be 100% sure There's nothing in the regs I saw about thermal or laser aiming devices. |
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Posted: 11/11/2019 8:42:32 PM EDT
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They consider IR illumination to be "a light" no different from a spot light. I don't think it matters whether it's an IRLED or a laser illuminator. There's nothing in the regs I saw about thermal or laser aiming devices. |
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Posted: 11/11/2019 9:13:46 PM EDT
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That is the interpretation I that Ive have had from the local warden, IR is a no go Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They consider IR illumination to be "a light" no different from a spot light. I don't think it matters whether it's an IRLED or a laser illuminator. There's nothing in the regs I saw about thermal or laser aiming devices. |
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Posted: 11/11/2019 10:11:43 PM EDT
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For scanning or spotting. Illuminating at the point of kill is ok, whether with visible light or IR light. 
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Posted: 11/11/2019 10:53:50 PM EDT
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They consider IR illumination to be "a light" no different from a spot light. I don't think it matters whether it's an IRLED or a laser illuminator. There's nothing in the regs I saw about thermal or laser aiming devices. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are you using a scope or red dot with your NV setup? Helmet mounted? Also I believe using an IR laser for coyotes is illegal in WI correct? I'll have to have a separate rifle set up for IR laser training and shooting. Scan detect with thermal Switch to NV and laser/illumination make the shot. Just want to be 100% sure There's nothing in the regs I saw about thermal or laser aiming devices.  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/3/2019 1:52:58 PM EDT
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For scanning or spotting. Illuminating at the point of kill is ok, whether with visible light or IR light. I'm in the thermal game...I have two Trail XQ38s. One of these days I should mount one on a rifle 
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