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Posted: 10/15/2021 1:23:38 AM EDT
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You'll get extremes anywhere away from the coasts. The differences will be the degree & nature of them (ie. Dry v. humid Summers & rain v. snowy Winters). Also consider what kind of lifestyles these different regions offer. Coastal & lake communities always seem to attract crowds & the price is relatively higher.
Bear in mind that politics is also shifting in a number of formerly red states (eg. MT, ID, AK) as progressive locusts swarm into them s/p wasting their previous host. Gun laws tend to be a good barometer in this regard, but not 100%. Another indicator is population density & distribution. Big, politically overpowering urban centers always ruin otherwise great states. |
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Posted: 10/15/2021 6:46:50 PM EDT
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I don't know how accurate this site is, but here is an overview of retirement tax friendliness: https://smartasset.com/retirement/retirement-taxes
Alaska and Wyoming are very tax friendly according to them. I lived in Alaska for 5 years, tended bar at Chilkoots. I've had enough snow and the winters are too long for me, but other than that I love it there. |
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Posted: 10/16/2021 2:31:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know how accurate this site is, but here is an overview of retirement tax friendliness: https://smartasset.com/retirement/retirement-taxes Alaska and Wyoming are very tax friendly according to them. I lived in Alaska for 5 years, tended bar at Chilkoots. I've had enough snow and the winters are too long for me, but other than that I love it there. I spent close to 20 years up in Anchorage and LOVE the place, but with age and those snowy long and dark winters, it beats you down. Also, the cost of living is very high, but if you have access to the Army/Air Force commissaries, that’s a huge help!! “I” was thinking about Florida myself, but New York and New Jersey are now flooding down there, so within a few short years, it will be a Purple State, on its way to being a solid Blue State. I have to rethink a strategy myself, but I don’t see myself moving out of Washington for several more years. |
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Posted: 10/16/2021 5:56:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I spent close to 20 years up in Anchorage and LOVE the place, but with age and those snowy long and dark winters, it beats you down. Also, the cost of living is very high, but if you have access to the Army/Air Force commissaries, that’s a huge help!! Heh, I saw Howie Mandell do his bit at PJs on Comedy nights before he became famous. PJs used to have a late night commercial on TV with Granny saying something like : "PJs is not only a strip joint, but a class strip joint!" |
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Posted: 10/16/2021 9:47:49 PM EDT
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I retire in 5 years. Me and the wife have decided on East Tennessee. After living in Wa. State all my life it is time to get away. We plan to fly into Nashville next year and drive to the Johnson city, Kingsport area. I just want to set on my porch and relax, and be able to shoot off my back deck. We looked at TX, AZ and ID. But decided to go East.
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Posted: 10/17/2021 9:04:24 PM EDT
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I want to live offshore, Id be happy paying slip fees around Ocean Shores, Port Orchard, or Bellingham with the flexibility to sail to the aleutians or south pacific whenever I feel the urge. If I get stuck living inland, I'll be looking hard at properties with a few acres around Colville Natl Forest.
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Posted: 10/17/2021 10:42:39 PM EDT
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I looked into SD last year when we were thinking of full time RVing. That would be my first choice as far as taxes, ease of residency, and gun friendly.
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Posted: 10/18/2021 9:11:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I want to live offshore, Id be happy paying slip fees around Ocean Shores, Port Orchard, or Bellingham with the flexibility to sail to the aleutians or south pacific whenever I feel the urge. If I get stuck living inland, I'll be looking hard at properties with a few acres around Colville Natl Forest. You are staying? Wow |
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Posted: 10/21/2021 2:52:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are staying? Wow Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I want to live offshore, Id be happy paying slip fees around Ocean Shores, Port Orchard, or Bellingham with the flexibility to sail to the aleutians or south pacific whenever I feel the urge. If I get stuck living inland, I'll be looking hard at properties with a few acres around Colville Natl Forest. You are staying? Wow Moving to DC in a few months, but Id definitely come back. The cities might suck, but the rest of the state is an outdoorsman's paradise. My goals...  Living on a Self-Sufficient Sailboat for 10 Years + FULL TOUR |
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Posted: 10/21/2021 3:00:42 PM EDT
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Thread relevant to my interests. Ive got another 10-15yrs till retirement if I make it that long.
Was thinking idaho but they'll be blue by then. Im thinking one of the dakotas, but by then everything will be different so..... |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 1:23:12 PM EDT
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The older I get, the less interested I am in dealing with the cold and snow in places like Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming for significant portions of the year. Somewhere in the desert southwest might be better.
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Posted: 10/23/2021 6:38:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You'll get extremes anywhere away from the coasts. The differences will be the degree & nature of them (ie. Dry v. humid Summers & rain v. snowy Winters). Also consider what kind of lifestyles these different regions offer. Coastal & lake communities always seem to attract crowds & the price is relatively higher. Bear in mind that politics is also shifting in a number of formerly red states (eg. MT, ID, AK) as progressive locusts swarm into them s/p wasting their previous host. Gun laws tend to be a good barometer in this regard, but not 100%. Another indicator is population density & distribution. Big, politically overpowering urban centers always ruin otherwise great states. As for Idaho, they voted 61% Trump in 2016 and 67% Trump in 2020. They have passed more pro gun legislation in the last 5 years than in the previous 25. I have a retirement property there and without exception every new out of state transplant I have met has been pro gun conservative. |
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Posted: 10/24/2021 12:16:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As for Idaho, they voted 61% Trump in 2016 and 67% Trump in 2020. They have passed more pro gun legislation in the last 5 years than in the previous 25. I have a retirement property there and without exception every new out of state transplant I have met has been pro gun conservative. Idaho news has reported time and time again the majority of those moving to ID are conservative. It's also a fact the ID voted more conservative in 2020 than 2016. Yep, there are liberals in Boise and around the colleges, but ID isn't going blue anytime soon. |
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Posted: 10/24/2021 12:07:25 PM EDT
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Moving to South Dakota next year.
Can't wait! |
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Posted: 11/9/2021 2:24:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You'll get extremes anywhere away from the coasts. The differences will be the degree & nature of them (ie. Dry v. humid Summers & rain v. snowy Winters). Also consider what kind of lifestyles these different regions offer. Coastal & lake communities always seem to attract crowds & the price is relatively higher. Bear in mind that politics is also shifting in a number of formerly red states (eg. MT, ID, AK) as progressive locusts swarm into them s/p wasting their previous host. Gun laws tend to be a good barometer in this regard, but not 100%. Another indicator is population density & distribution. Big, politically overpowering urban centers always ruin otherwise great states. You'd be wrong about Idaho, it was more red than any other year before last year. Op, all of your choices sound pretty dead on, you just need to figure out where works best for you guys. |
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Posted: 11/14/2021 5:30:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Idaho news has reported time and time again the majority of those moving to ID are conservative. It's also a fact the ID voted more conservative in 2020 than 2016. Yep, there are liberals in Boise and around the colleges, but ID isn't going blue anytime soon. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: As for Idaho, they voted 61% Trump in 2016 and 67% Trump in 2020. They have passed more pro gun legislation in the last 5 years than in the previous 25. I have a retirement property there and without exception every new out of state transplant I have met has been pro gun conservative. Idaho news has reported time and time again the majority of those moving to ID are conservative. It's also a fact the ID voted more conservative in 2020 than 2016. Yep, there are liberals in Boise and around the colleges, but ID isn't going blue anytime soon. My family has a 5 acres spot in Idaho ( I will only say its a few mins N/E of Silverwood) ;) 3 more years, and I will be there upgrading the cabin, and shop, or just inside the Montana line somewhere around Stevensville. I want to be about 8 hours or less back to my current location for family care if anything were to happen. I have always loved Montana, and my time there, but Idaho is also a very Strong candidate. |
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Posted: 11/14/2021 7:02:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I spent close to 20 years up in Anchorage and LOVE the place, but with age and those snowy long and dark winters, it beats you down. Also, the cost of living is very high, but if you have access to the Army/Air Force commissaries, that’s a huge help!! “I” was thinking about Florida myself, but New York and New Jersey are now flooding down there, so within a few short years, it will be a Purple State, on its way to being a solid Blue State. I have to rethink a strategy myself, but I don’t see myself moving out of Washington for several more years. Red people are moving to Florida, not blue people. DeSantis himself said that the # of registered Republicans is now equal to or greater than the # of registered Democrats in Florida. People aren’t moving to FL for more government. They’re moving there because of DeSantis. |
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Posted: 11/14/2021 10:05:56 PM EDT
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Joe Biden got a higher percentage of the overall vote in Idaho in 2020 than Hillary Clinton did in 2016.
Idaho has seemed like it has been shifting slightly leftward for decades, mostly because of Ada and Kootenai counties. At this point I don’t think that the grass is much greener on the that side. But it’s on my list of longer term considerations. |
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Posted: 11/14/2021 10:40:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My family has a 5 acres spot in Idaho ( I will only say its a few mins N/E of Silverwood) ;) 3 more years, and I will be there upgrading the cabin, and shop, or just inside the Montana line somewhere around Stevensville. I want to be about 8 hours or less back to my current location for family care if anything were to happen. I have always loved Montana, and my time there, but Idaho is also a very Strong candidate. Moving to Hamilton in a month. |
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Posted: 11/15/2021 1:13:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My family has a 5 acres spot in Idaho ( I will only say its a few mins N/E of Silverwood) ;) 3 more years, and I will be there upgrading the cabin, and shop, or just inside the Montana line somewhere around Stevensville. I want to be about 8 hours or less back to my current location for family care if anything were to happen. I have always loved Montana, and my time there, but Idaho is also a very Strong candidate. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: As for Idaho, they voted 61% Trump in 2016 and 67% Trump in 2020. They have passed more pro gun legislation in the last 5 years than in the previous 25. I have a retirement property there and without exception every new out of state transplant I have met has been pro gun conservative. Idaho news has reported time and time again the majority of those moving to ID are conservative. It's also a fact the ID voted more conservative in 2020 than 2016. Yep, there are liberals in Boise and around the colleges, but ID isn't going blue anytime soon. My family has a 5 acres spot in Idaho ( I will only say its a few mins N/E of Silverwood) ;) 3 more years, and I will be there upgrading the cabin, and shop, or just inside the Montana line somewhere around Stevensville. I want to be about 8 hours or less back to my current location for family care if anything were to happen. I have always loved Montana, and my time there, but Idaho is also a very Strong candidate. You represent the majority of those moving to Idaho. Montana is awesome too, but like ID does have liberal areas around the colleges. |
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Posted: 11/15/2021 2:08:34 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Montana is awesome too, but like ID does have liberal areas around the colleges. It’s more than just around the colleges. |
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Posted: 11/15/2021 8:52:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s more than just around the colleges. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Montana is awesome too, but like ID does have liberal areas around the colleges. It’s more than just around the colleges. No kidding, I remember when Whitman County was as sold red as could be, hell it flipped so fast there was never any purple, it went straight to dark solid blue. Colleges are the breeding grounds and in essence ground zero for the change from red to blue. It seems every year we get more and more useless educated idiots, voting blue, not able to get a job because their degrees are useless, they go to work at some other liberal establishment slowly spreading their blue disease. |
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Posted: 11/17/2021 12:30:03 PM EDT
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Well, my buddy lives in Miami, he said the Liberals are flooding into Florida, from New York and New Jersey.
He is pretty worried, Florida turning Blue. Quote HistoryQuoted: Red people are moving to Florida, not blue people. DeSantis himself said that the # of registered Republicans is now equal to or greater than the # of registered Democrats in Florida. People aren’t moving to FL for more government. They’re moving there because of DeSantis. |
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Posted: 11/17/2021 2:33:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, my buddy lives in Miami, he said the Liberals are flooding into Florida, from New York and New Jersey. He is pretty worried, Florida turning Blue. Miami and Dade County has been blue forever. They should be worried if they start buying up small communities in central and northern Florida. |
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Posted: 11/17/2021 2:48:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Miami and Dade County has been blue forever. They should be worried if they start buying up small communities in central and northern Florida. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well, my buddy lives in Miami, he said the Liberals are flooding into Florida, from New York and New Jersey. He is pretty worried, Florida turning Blue. Miami and Dade County has been blue forever. They should be worried if they start buying up small communities in central and northern Florida. Yeah, it’s not like a handful of heavily populated and ever increasingly liberal counties has ever determined the political course of a state or anything. |
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Posted: 11/17/2021 9:24:02 PM EDT
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He has lived there for last 20 years.
He said this is Way different. They are FLOODING into the entire coastal part of Florida. Liberals. Housing is SKY Rocketing. Like I said this different and he is pretty worried. |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 12:06:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He has lived there for last 20 years. He said this is Way different. They are FLOODING into the entire coastal part of Florida. Liberals. Housing is SKY Rocketing. Like I said this different and he is pretty worried. I had Miami on my list before I got selected for the DC job, looking back I dont think I could have afforded a house in Miami. Even Homestead is expensive now, on par with Denver and Seattle. |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 7:18:42 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You'll get extremes anywhere away from the coasts. The differences will be the degree & nature of them (ie. Dry v. humid Summers & rain v. snowy Winters). Also consider what kind of lifestyles these different regions offer. Coastal & lake communities always seem to attract crowds & the price is relatively higher. Bear in mind that politics is also shifting in a number of formerly red states (eg. MT, ID, AK) as progressive locusts swarm into them s/p wasting their previous host. Gun laws tend to be a good barometer in this regard, but not 100%. Another indicator is population density & distribution. Big, politically overpowering urban centers always ruin otherwise great states. So many here just repeat what theve heard. Statistically Idaho has become more conservative. 2016 they voted 61% Trump 2020 they voted 67% Trump Idaho ain't turning blue anytime soon . Montana just voted in a Republican govenor and they have been leaning Dumocrat for decades because of muh farm subsidies. No one understands Alaska politics. |
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Posted: 12/4/2021 4:33:39 AM EDT
[#29]
Costa Rica
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Posted: 12/11/2021 9:21:17 AM EDT
[#30]
looks like it's going to happen sooner than I thought, we are currently looking at south central Iowa.....lots of grandkids and now great grand kids there.
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Posted: 1/1/2022 7:43:18 PM EDT
[#31]
Just got back from spending holidays in TX. Have been thinking of wintering there in the hill country and spending the hot months in N. Idaho. Friends and family in TX tell me the real estate prices in the hill country have gone insane.
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Posted: 1/2/2022 2:04:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just got back from spending holidays in TX. Have been thinking of wintering there in the hill country and spending the hot months in N. Idaho. Friends and family in TX tell me the real estate prices in the hill country have gone insane. Insane by tx standards is tool shed on a postage stamp lot money in w wa |
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Posted: 1/3/2022 6:42:08 PM EDT
[#33]
Finally heading to South Dakota this year, can't wait!
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Posted: 1/3/2022 7:21:01 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Finally heading to South Dakota this year, can't wait!   
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Posted: 1/4/2022 2:17:26 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Finally heading to South Dakota this year, can't wait! East or west river? |
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Posted: 1/5/2022 12:50:56 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Insane by tx standards is tool shed on a postage stamp lot money in w wa Good point. Guess I should see for myself. |
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Posted: 1/5/2022 9:59:21 PM EDT
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I made the move three years ago. From Orcas Island to the Memphis area.
 .Lower cost of living, no state income tax, next door neighbor has 80 acres with his own private runway/occasional rifle range. Very little snow! Life is good. |
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Posted: 1/5/2022 10:59:18 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: East or west river? Found an awesome spot, East River. |
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Posted: 1/6/2022 2:48:05 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Found an awesome spot, East River. Nice! I was just talking to an old work buddy how much I missed my place outside Yankton. Maybe someday... |
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Posted: 1/6/2022 12:31:19 PM EDT
[#40]
I don’t know if the cold states like ID/MT/WY work once you hit retirement age. It’s much harder to enjoy the outdoors in the cold. And I sure don’t want to move again when I’m even older…
I can see why people do the snowbird thing. |
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Posted: 1/6/2022 1:49:14 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, my buddy lives in Miami, he said the Liberals are flooding into Florida, from New York and New Jersey. He is pretty worried, Florida turning Blue. It hasn't happened, so far. https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/01/florida-is-turning-red.php Hoo-boy! The pandemic effect on FL voter registration has been.. jaw-dropping Since 3/31/20: +274,503 R -51,995 D 66/67 counties becoming redder R's overtake D's for first time in state history@karol @HotlineJosh @guypbenson @MZHemingway @ReyAnthonyFL @Bryce__L @FloridaGOP pic.twitter.com/b8qWzLT8Og — Tim (@TimDCpolitico) January 4, 2022 |
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Posted: 1/6/2022 3:20:31 PM EDT
[#42]
We need Florida to stay Red!
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Posted: 1/8/2022 7:01:06 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You'll get extremes anywhere away from the coasts. The differences will be the degree & nature of them (ie. Dry v. humid Summers & rain v. snowy Winters). Also consider what kind of lifestyles these different regions offer. Coastal & lake communities always seem to attract crowds & the price is relatively higher. Bear in mind that politics is also shifting in a number of formerly red states (eg. MT, ID, AK) as progressive locusts swarm into them s/p wasting their previous host. Gun laws tend to be a good barometer in this regard, but not 100%. Another indicator is population density & distribution. Big, politically overpowering urban centers always ruin otherwise great states. Please explain with references other than opinion what you think makes Idaho a "Formerly" red state. In 2016 Idaho voted Trump by 61%, in 2020 Idaho voted Trump by 67.5%. They have continued to improve gun rights and have passed lots of gun rights legislation as well. If you are simply going by the opinion that population growth automatically means turning blue you are mistaken at least where Idaho demographics are concerned. The numbers indicate Idaho is becoming more red not less. As for Montana and Alaska, they also seem to be going further right but they were never as conservative as Idaho. |
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Posted: 1/8/2022 8:52:27 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Joe Biden got a higher percentage of the overall vote in Idaho in 2020 than Hillary Clinton did in 2016. Idaho has seemed like it has been shifting slightly leftward for decades, mostly because of Ada and Kootenai counties. At this point I don’t think that the grass is much greener on the that side. But it’s on my list of longer term considerations. I'll take Idaho over Washington hands down any day. The words " seemed like" are emotional, not factual. Idaho is farther right by magnitudes over Washington and just a little bit of real research will prove it. |
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Posted: 1/8/2022 8:55:13 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just got back from spending holidays in TX. Have been thinking of wintering there in the hill country and spending the hot months in N. Idaho. Friends and family in TX tell me the real estate prices in the hill country have gone insane. So has Idaho land prices |
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Posted: 1/8/2022 9:41:33 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Please explain with references other than opinion what you think makes Idaho a "Formerly" red state. In 2016 Idaho voted Trump by 61%, in 2020 Idaho voted Trump by 67.5%. They have continued to improve gun rights and have passed lots of gun rights legislation as well. If you are simply going by the opinion that population growth automatically means turning blue you are mistaken at least where Idaho demographics are concerned. The numbers indicate Idaho is becoming more red not less. As for Montana and Alaska, they also seem to be going further right but they were never as conservative as Idaho. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You'll get extremes anywhere away from the coasts. The differences will be the degree & nature of them (ie. Dry v. humid Summers & rain v. snowy Winters). Also consider what kind of lifestyles these different regions offer. Coastal & lake communities always seem to attract crowds & the price is relatively higher. Bear in mind that politics is also shifting in a number of formerly red states (eg. MT, ID, AK) as progressive locusts swarm into them s/p wasting their previous host. Gun laws tend to be a good barometer in this regard, but not 100%. Another indicator is population density & distribution. Big, politically overpowering urban centers always ruin otherwise great states. Please explain with references other than opinion what you think makes Idaho a "Formerly" red state. In 2016 Idaho voted Trump by 61%, in 2020 Idaho voted Trump by 67.5%. They have continued to improve gun rights and have passed lots of gun rights legislation as well. If you are simply going by the opinion that population growth automatically means turning blue you are mistaken at least where Idaho demographics are concerned. The numbers indicate Idaho is becoming more red not less. As for Montana and Alaska, they also seem to be going further right but they were never as conservative as Idaho. Master_Blaster has continually ignored facts, nor does he ever provide any....... In Nov. 2013, 38.2% of registered voters identified as Republican, while registered Democrats made up 7.6% of voters. Almost six years later, Republicans now have 50.8% of total registered voters in Idaho, an increase of 12.6%. The number of registered Democrats this year is now at 12.7%, up by 5.1% from 2013. The number of registered Republicans in Idaho has grown by over 206,000 in the last six years and there are only about 52,000 more registered Democrats in Idaho. These changes show that the state's population growth is only leading to an increasingly Republican-leaning Idaho. https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/local/208/verify-no-people-who-move-to-idaho-arent-turning-the-state-liberal/277-c3110644-b43c-44af-9c06-af0f1ad44c12 |
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Posted: 1/8/2022 11:05:04 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll take Idaho over Washington hands down any day. The words " seemed like" are emotional, not factual. Idaho is farther right by magnitudes over Washington and just a little bit of real research will prove it. Way, way, way, way better climate too compared to dreary, soggy, miserable western WA too 
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Posted: 1/9/2022 3:42:25 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I made the move three years ago. From Orcas Island to the Memphis area. .Lower cost of living, no state income tax, next door neighbor has 80 acres with his own private runway/occasional rifle range. Very little snow! Life is good. That sounds like exactly what I'm looking for! |
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Posted: 1/11/2022 3:46:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Master_Blaster has continually ignored facts, nor does he ever provide any....... In Nov. 2013, 38.2% of registered voters identified as Republican, while registered Democrats made up 7.6% of voters. Almost six years later, Republicans now have 50.8% of total registered voters in Idaho, an increase of 12.6%. The number of registered Democrats this year is now at 12.7%, up by 5.1% from 2013. The number of registered Republicans in Idaho has grown by over 206,000 in the last six years and there are only about 52,000 more registered Democrats in Idaho. These changes show that the state's population growth is only leading to an increasingly Republican-leaning Idaho. https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/local/208/verify-no-people-who-move-to-idaho-arent-turning-the-state-liberal/277-c3110644-b43c-44af-9c06-af0f1ad44c12 Cite examples of my "continual" ignorance of facts... You seem to be taking my posts as some kind of affront. I don't want to see ID fall, but normalcy bias isn't a reason to ignore the potential liabilities of the relocation trend. What's the saying? Past performance is not necessarily indicative of future results. CA'ians are moving to ID, & I bet they aren't all conservatives. Indisputably, WA hasn't turned out better for it. Here's some 2019 data:  Idaho was the fastest-growing state in the nation with a population increase of 2.12% from 2019, according to 2020 Census data. The trend I've been speaking of is a warning. Hopefully a false one, but time will ultimately tell. The 1 really positive trend is the state gubernatorial election spread, which has trended further right over the years, which is great, but things can still change. I don't trust CA'ians to move to ID & not skew the state. Nope. Seen that story played out in WA & OR. They are not to be ignored, I don't care if they smile, or how "nice" they act to your face. That persistent lack of insight is always present in their voting habits. |
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Posted: 1/11/2022 4:58:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cite examples of my "continual" ignorance of facts... You seem to be taking my posts as some kind of affront. I don't want to see ID fall, but normalcy bias isn't a reason to ignore the potential liabilities of the relocation trend. What's the saying? Past performance is not necessarily indicative of future results. CA'ians are moving to ID, & I bet they aren't all conservatives. Indisputably, WA hasn't turn out better for it. Here's some 2019 data: https://i2.wp.com/www.oldharborins.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Copy-of-9_People-moving-to-Idaho.png?resize=564%2C411 Idaho was the fastest-growing state in the nation with a population increase of 2.12% from 2019, according to 2020 Census data. The trend I've been speaking of is a warning. Hopefully a false one, but time will ultimately tell. The 1 really positive trend is the state gubernatorial election spread, which has trended further right over the years, which is great, but things can still change. I don't trust CA'ians to move to ID & not skew the state. Nope. Seen that story played out in WA & OR. They are not to be ignored, I don't care if they smile, or how "nice" they act to your face. That persistent lack of insight is always present in their voting habits. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Master_Blaster has continually ignored facts, nor does he ever provide any....... In Nov. 2013, 38.2% of registered voters identified as Republican, while registered Democrats made up 7.6% of voters. Almost six years later, Republicans now have 50.8% of total registered voters in Idaho, an increase of 12.6%. The number of registered Democrats this year is now at 12.7%, up by 5.1% from 2013. The number of registered Republicans in Idaho has grown by over 206,000 in the last six years and there are only about 52,000 more registered Democrats in Idaho. These changes show that the state's population growth is only leading to an increasingly Republican-leaning Idaho. https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/local/208/verify-no-people-who-move-to-idaho-arent-turning-the-state-liberal/277-c3110644-b43c-44af-9c06-af0f1ad44c12 Cite examples of my "continual" ignorance of facts... You seem to be taking my posts as some kind of affront. I don't want to see ID fall, but normalcy bias isn't a reason to ignore the potential liabilities of the relocation trend. What's the saying? Past performance is not necessarily indicative of future results. CA'ians are moving to ID, & I bet they aren't all conservatives. Indisputably, WA hasn't turn out better for it. Here's some 2019 data: https://i2.wp.com/www.oldharborins.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Copy-of-9_People-moving-to-Idaho.png?resize=564%2C411 Idaho was the fastest-growing state in the nation with a population increase of 2.12% from 2019, according to 2020 Census data. The trend I've been speaking of is a warning. Hopefully a false one, but time will ultimately tell. The 1 really positive trend is the state gubernatorial election spread, which has trended further right over the years, which is great, but things can still change. I don't trust CA'ians to move to ID & not skew the state. Nope. Seen that story played out in WA & OR. They are not to be ignored, I don't care if they smile, or how "nice" they act to your face. That persistent lack of insight is always present in their voting habits. Not one of your links provides a breakdown between conservatives vs liberals moving to Idaho. Your suppositions have no basis in fact. Mine do 
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