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Posted: 5/4/2022 10:50:44 AM EDT
So what did I miss 2 local auction companies are not selling guns at their spring auctions this year(like they always have) I talked to the one and the said thanks to the new Biden laws

What's this all about anyone have a clue?
Link Posted: 5/4/2022 11:18:25 AM EDT
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all kinds of gun auctions going on in Iowa.  No idea what is up with the two companies you spoke to.

http://www.hawkeyetrader.com/auctions/auctions/categoryevents/7-Ammunition/Guns/Sporting%20Goods.html
Link Posted: 5/4/2022 10:19:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By IAShooters:
all kinds of gun auctions going on in Iowa.  No idea what is up with the two companies you spoke to.

http://www.hawkeyetrader.com/auctions/auctions/categoryevents/7-Ammunition/Guns/Sporting%20Goods.html
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The first one on that list is the ones I just talked to lol no guns/ammo on their 2022 sportsman's auction they always had a local FFL do the transfer in the past.
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 1:03:59 AM EDT
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Probably enforcing the current laws on the books. But Auction houses seem to never follow. No transfers can be made at the auction they have to be done at the place of business. Even if the person has a buyers permit or carry license. And just because a gun is old and taken apart and junk the receiver still has to be transferred. I have seen this at lots of auctions that sold a gun as parts/junk without transferring. It has to meet the atf's wording to what they say is a destroyed receiver as to the cuts and how many of them.

I know several ffls that were told to stop doing these types of transfers and that the atf were going to start enforcing these rules and were going to start stings to catch them. So maybe the word is out.  
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 7:44:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tommee-boy-72:
Probably enforcing the current laws on the books. But Auction houses seem to never follow. No transfers can be made at the auction they have to be done at the place of business. Even if the person has a buyers permit or carry license. And just because a gun is old and taken apart and junk the receiver still has to be transferred. I have seen this at lots of auctions that sold a gun as parts/junk without transferring. It has to meet the atf's wording to what they say is a destroyed receiver as to the cuts and how many of them.

I know several ffls that were told to stop doing these types of transfers and that the atf were going to start enforcing these rules and were going to start stings to catch them. So maybe the word is out.  
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I've never heard an ffl has to transfer a firearm at the place of business that makes no sense when you figure how many transfers they do at a gun show
Link Posted: 5/12/2022 10:48:41 PM EDT
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At a gun show they are their guns. Not at an auction. So it has to be done at the place of business. Straight from a ATF's agents mouth.
Link Posted: 5/17/2022 12:03:37 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Iowaredneck:


I've never heard an ffl has to transfer a firearm at the place of business that makes no sense when you figure how many transfers they do at a gun show
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um that's how the "American Guns" guy lost his license
he would fly to people's places and buy or sell/deliver guns not at the place of business.
on the 4473 there is an area that states if you are at a gun show to show where the sale happened
Link Posted: 5/17/2022 8:43:23 AM EDT
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I've never heard an ffl has to transfer a firearm at the place of business that makes no sense when you figure how many transfers they do at a gun show
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Originally Posted By Iowaredneck:
Originally Posted By tommee-boy-72:
Probably enforcing the current laws on the books. But Auction houses seem to never follow. No transfers can be made at the auction they have to be done at the place of business. Even if the person has a buyers permit or carry license. And just because a gun is old and taken apart and junk the receiver still has to be transferred. I have seen this at lots of auctions that sold a gun as parts/junk without transferring. It has to meet the atf's wording to what they say is a destroyed receiver as to the cuts and how many of them.

I know several ffls that were told to stop doing these types of transfers and that the atf were going to start enforcing these rules and were going to start stings to catch them. So maybe the word is out.  


I've never heard an ffl has to transfer a firearm at the place of business that makes no sense when you figure how many transfers they do at a gun show

I was looking to buy a Contender from a local guy a few years ago. He has an unrelated business in Mason City, said if I bought the gun we'd have to go to Algona, because that's where hos FFL was based, transfers had to be made at the licensed premises OR a gunshow.
Link Posted: 5/17/2022 8:46:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By bhouse1545:


um that's how the "American Guns" guy lost his license
he would fly to people's places and buy or sell/deliver guns not at the place of business.
on the 4473 there is an area that states if you are at a gun show to show where the sale happened
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Originally Posted By Iowaredneck:


I've never heard an ffl has to transfer a firearm at the place of business that makes no sense when you figure how many transfers they do at a gun show


um that's how the "American Guns" guy lost his license
he would fly to people's places and buy or sell/deliver guns not at the place of business.
on the 4473 there is an area that states if you are at a gun show to show where the sale happened

Not exactly. American Guns guy had already lost his license and was still selling, then taking buyers elsewhere to fill out the paperwork.

IIRC he lost his license over paperwork errors. Then they popped him for dealing without a license over the above.
Link Posted: 5/20/2022 5:21:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By shack357:

Not exactly. American Guns guy had already lost his license and was still selling, then taking buyers elsewhere to fill out the paperwork.

IIRC he lost his license over paperwork errors. Then they popped him for dealing without a license over the above.
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Yeah what a cluster
Link Posted: 5/30/2022 12:15:35 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/30/2022 1:21:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By booger-hooker:
American Guns...is that the show that showcased how cute the daughter was by what she was wearing?  If I remember right her mom seemed to enjoy showing off her "enhanced" frontal chest area as well.  (.)(.)

The son seemed to be an aspiring firearms engraver on the show and had done some nice work on some revolvers.
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