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Posted: 4/16/2023 2:05:16 PM EDT
If accurate, would be FUCKING awesome!
 What on Earth is Taking Judge Benitez So Long? |
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Posted: 4/16/2023 3:22:15 PM EDT
[#1]
I want to see FJI and FBF in tears.
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Posted: 4/16/2023 5:40:04 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I want to see FJI and FBF in tears. They should be doing the BOHICA boogie in a prison cell. |
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Posted: 4/16/2023 5:51:24 PM EDT
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From his mouth to God's ear--
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Posted: 4/16/2023 10:48:49 PM EDT
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That would make arguing for a hold on the law a bit easier I would think.
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Posted: 4/17/2023 12:37:28 AM EDT
[#5]
This would be glorious!!
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Posted: 4/17/2023 12:47:12 AM EDT
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Sorry but maybe I don't understand why a SoCal district judge - who has no bearing over WA law - would care to wait for a WA law to be signed before he rules on a case in his district.
At this point I think Kirk is trolling for clicks. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 2:38:12 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry but maybe I don't understand why a SoCal district judge - who has no bearing over WA law - would care to wait for a WA law to be signed before he rules on a case in his district. At this point I think Kirk is trolling for clicks. We’re all 9th circuit… if they are forced to admit the AWB is illegal it effects all states in it. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 5:41:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We’re all 9th circuit… if they are forced to admit the AWB is illegal it effects all states in it. Only if it's appealed, though, so the CA ruling itself does nothing for WA, only an appeal of that ruling would |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 9:40:03 AM EDT
[#9]
This would be a very interesting move to set case law in Washington AND greatly help an injunction to be granted.
If our idiot governor signs this law into the books and one hour later Benitez publishes his ruling. The law firms bringing suit would cite Benitez’s US District Court ruling as established case law for granting a temporary injunction. Might be an interesting gun-news week! |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 10:07:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We’re all 9th circuit… if they are forced to admit the AWB is illegal it effects all states in it. He is not a 9th circuit judge he is a southern California district judge |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 11:08:19 AM EDT
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His ruling will set precedence. Rumor is our mag ban judge whos sitting on her hands right now is waiting to see what happens.
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Posted: 4/17/2023 12:32:09 PM EDT
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FJI & FBF, will ignore the ruling or try some BS saying that WA law is somehow different and does not apply.
Until Judges and Legislators are held accountable for violating rights we as a country as so screwed. They are quick hold a cop accountable for a split second decision but these asshats have weeks and months to make a decision and no consequences. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 4:36:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Only if it's appealed, though, so the CA ruling itself does nothing for WA, only an appeal of that ruling would Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We’re all 9th circuit… if they are forced to admit the AWB is illegal it effects all states in it. Only if it's appealed, though, so the CA ruling itself does nothing for WA, only an appeal of that ruling would CA can either appeal the ruling or submit to it. Which course do you think that state will take? |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 4:54:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: CA can either appeal the ruling or submit to it. Which course do you think that state will take? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: We’re all 9th circuit… if they are forced to admit the AWB is illegal it effects all states in it. Only if it's appealed, though, so the CA ruling itself does nothing for WA, only an appeal of that ruling would CA can either appeal the ruling or submit to it. Which course do you think that state will take? There's no doubt whatsoever that they will appeal, especially since the 9th Circuit is packed with gun grabbers who will search for ways to overturn Benitez. Just pointing out that it has no effect in WA until they do appeal, and the 9th issues a ruling. Until then it's just a California Southern District precedent so Benitez timing his ruling to our bill didn't make a lot of sense to me. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 8:45:09 PM EDT
[#15]
My cockles would be warm and hard for a month!
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Posted: 4/17/2023 8:45:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's no doubt whatsoever that they will appeal, especially since the 9th Circuit is packed with gun grabbers who will search for ways to overturn Benitez. Just pointing out that it has no effect in WA until they do appeal, and the 9th issues a ruling. Until then it's just a California Southern District precedent so Benitez timing his ruling to our bill didn't make a lot of sense to me. The 9th circuit includes WA too I thought. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 8:55:29 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The 9th circuit includes WA too I thought. Yes, WA falls into the 9th Circus. Judge Benitez ruling will only effect CA. If CA appeals his decision to the 9th Circus, then that will effect WA as well. Now if Judge Benitez’s decision isn’t appealed, even though it doesn’t technically effect us, it does give us precedence for the injunction that will be filled. This is how I understand all of this. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 9:15:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, WA falls into the 9th Circus. Judge Benitez ruling will only effect CA. If CA appeals his decision to the 9th Circus, then that will effect WA as well. Now if Judge Benitez’s decision isn’t appealed, even though it doesn’t technically effect us, it does give us precedence for the injunction that will be filled. This is how I understand all of this. It’s all so complicated! |
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Posted: 4/18/2023 12:05:10 AM EDT
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The WA legislation is a copy/paste of the CA laws. If they are ruled unconstitutional, it’s gives any challenges in WA a greater likelihood of an injunction and ultimate reversal.
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Posted: 4/18/2023 5:52:03 AM EDT
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I am not a lawyer or a legal scholar, but I know as a minimum, and most likely, we’re screwed for a couple of years at best since I have a gut feeling this whole process will end up back in the SCOTUS.
Without question, a ruling from the 9th Circuit would be a plus, but there will be no immediate action once dick breathe and butt munch have their way this week. Sadly, I have no escape plans from this State since my ass is too old now… That boat has left the harbor 8 years ago and I didn’t make my move to Florida back then, so I have ride this bitch to the end. Like many here, I seen this shit coming for the last 5 plus years, which didn’t make it any easier, especially over the last two years, but I am pretty much set with everything I need or want. Most of us older guys that are in their late 40s, and well over that, have/had the extra income to buy most of the stuff we wanted, but it sucks for the mid 20s and above guys who are just starting out in life. I clearly remember that when I was in my early 20s, when I had to sell whatever I had to buy something else… Being a young married Army Sergeant, at that time, money was tight. Sadly, some young married Army Sergeant today is now dicked by the Governor of this state. I have faith in my fellow “lying dog-faced pony Soldiers,” as Biden once said, will help each other out, especially our “Group” and “Batt” brothers as they rotate in and out of Bragg and Benning. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 2:23:15 AM EDT
[#21]
Well F* inslee F* ferguson, and F# any Senator or House Rep who voted this forward. I pretty much have everything I need or want.. but I'm pissed for my kids's kids.
I'm wondering if itslee is going to sign tomorrow as Kirk predicts, since it is the anniversary of the Columbine shooting. I truly hope Benitez sends his ruling right after the signing as predicted! |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 3:12:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well F* inslee F* ferguson, and F# any Senator or House Rep who voted this forward. I pretty much have everything I need or want.. but I'm pissed for my kids's kids. I'm wondering if itslee is going to sign tomorrow as Kirk predicts, since it is the anniversary of the Columbine shooting. I truly hope Benitez sends his ruling right after the signing as predicted! Let me help you out......... Fuck Jay Inslee. Fuck Bob Ferguson. I don't know why you are scared to say it. The revolution is coming. Get ready. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 3:40:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Most of us older guys that are in their late 40s, and well over that, have/had the extra income to buy most of the stuff we wanted, but it sucks for the mid 20s and above guys who are just starting out in life.  |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 4:37:08 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Let me help you out......... Fuck Jay Inslee. Fuck Bob Ferguson. I don't know why you are scared to say it. The revolution is coming. Get ready. Nothing about being scared. I just tend not to cuss. It was how I was raised and I'm not changing myself for them. I will follow and fight for my rights, hence spending my time trying to make posts to help the people who don't want to take the time, or don't know how to do things. I am thankful for people like Kirk from WA Gun Law taking the time to care and give awareness. I just wish it was enough. Man.. when I was kid growing up in CA.. I remember a few progun people talking about the AWB down there. I remember how they sounded paranoid (rightfully so in hindsight), buying AR15 lowers, etc. I imagine there are many people who are now opening eyes way too late.. I truly hope those people who are now realizing what is going on will vote these guys out. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 11:00:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I too feel bad for the newbies. Couple of guys I work with just starting outing out on the AR platform; I helped them get their kits and lowers. Ive got everything I need. They barely do. Sucks for them Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Most of us older guys that are in their late 40s, and well over that, have/had the extra income to buy most of the stuff we wanted, but it sucks for the mid 20s and above guys who are just starting out in life. This is their plan. Reduce the number of people with firearms. Then confiscate. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 8:47:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is their plan. Reduce the number of people with firearms. Then confiscate. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Most of us older guys that are in their late 40s, and well over that, have/had the extra income to buy most of the stuff we wanted, but it sucks for the mid 20s and above guys who are just starting out in life. This is their plan. Reduce the number of people with firearms. Then confiscate. This is how the UK did it. Made permitting and licensing expensive, time consuming and a generally confusing bureaucratic process till the number of gun owners was whittled down to a manageable number and then go for the nationwide bad. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 12:21:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is how the UK did it. Made permitting and licensing expensive, time consuming and a generally confusing bureaucratic process till the number of gun owners was whittled down to a manageable number and then go for the nationwide bad. Same story in Canada and Australia |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 12:30:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nothing about being scared. I just tend not to cuss. It was how I was raised and I'm not changing myself for them. I will follow and fight for my rights, hence spending my time trying to make posts to help the people who don't want to take the time, or don't know how to do things. I am thankful for people like Kirk from WA Gun Law taking the time to care and give awareness. I just wish it was enough. Man.. when I was kid growing up in CA.. I remember a few progun people talking about the AWB down there. I remember how they sounded paranoid (rightfully so in hindsight), buying AR15 lowers, etc. I imagine there are many people who are now opening eyes way too late.. I truly hope those people who are now realizing what is going on will vote these guys out. The first ban in CA was in 1989, not much has changed other than more weapons being banned and a roster of state approved weapons created. We put a lot of effort into fighting that and other gun control measures/bans. Other that for the short time in 2021 with Benitez's ruling, which was later overturned. There have been no substantial gun right victories in CA. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 12:40:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2023 8:48:38 PM EDT
[#30]
I also feel bad for the younger shooters. Somewhere there is a 17 year old like I was once, planning on buying an AR-15 (for me it was a Norinco AK with the underfolder bayonet) as soon as he turns eighteen who is losing his shit right now.
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Posted: 4/22/2023 11:10:13 AM EDT
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Fortunately for a lot of those 18yo just graduating this year, they can join the mil and get the fuck out if Wa. Make roots somewhere else.
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Posted: 4/22/2023 1:07:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fortunately for a lot of those 18yo just graduating this year, they can join the mil and get the fuck out if Wa. Make roots somewhere else. Go take diversity lessons and risk getting killed for our corrupt political class if you want to keep some of your God given rights. Some country we’ve managed to preserve 
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Posted: 4/22/2023 3:27:01 PM EDT
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Didn't WA raise the age limit last year?
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Posted: 4/22/2023 10:38:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I also feel bad for the younger shooters. Somewhere there is a 17 year old like I was once, planning on buying an AR-15 (for me it was a Norinco AK with the underfolder bayonet) as soon as he turns eighteen who is losing his shit right now. Then they should vote accordingly. |
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Posted: 4/24/2023 7:02:55 PM EDT
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I bought assorted firearms for my kids an grandkids, couple years ago. So atleast their gtg.
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Posted: 4/26/2023 11:44:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn't WA raise the age limit last year? Yes, you are correct. A 20 year old lost his shit now.. I did get my Norinco AK with a folding bayonet, just 10 years later than I planned. 
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