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Posted: 2/28/2021 8:39:28 PM EDT
[#1]
Oh no!!!
I have not heard of a commercial site needing a different type of road, access is access. Hopefully they had a good lawyer look at it before taking this step. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 8:41:09 PM EDT
[#2]
I don’t know if another place to shoot long range in the area.
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Posted: 2/28/2021 8:46:34 PM EDT
[#3]
Well shit. I know the property was on the market last year. I wonder if this is related?
I let my membership expire in December due to the ammo shortage and not being able to justify the cost with the limited shooting I was doing. It was a great range. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 8:48:07 PM EDT
[#4]
Wait, this is the Triple C in Cresson? I was thinking it was the Cawthon Cartridge Club (CCC) right down the road from me.
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Posted: 2/28/2021 8:50:32 PM EDT
[#5]
Yes this is the Cresson range.
Seriously a huge loss. There wasn't another range to my knowledge that comes close. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 8:51:31 PM EDT
[#6]
My son is taking it hard. We have years of memory’s out there. It’s where he learned to shoot and drive. Definitely a huge loss.
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Posted: 2/28/2021 8:52:09 PM EDT
[#7]
This is terrible. So many groups, clubs, and other training businesses used Triple C as the venue. With the Sandpit closing too last year, we've lost 2 good ranges in DFW
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Posted: 2/28/2021 8:52:29 PM EDT
[#8]
Just saw the email. That effing sucks. It was worth the drive for me from the coast just to shoot a mile and enjoy the area.
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Posted: 2/28/2021 8:59:30 PM EDT
[#9]
Terrible news. That place is nothing short of incredible. With gong ranges going out to 2000 yards. Where else can one do that 30 minutes away from the metroplex? The guys running it were super cool. I knew there were some recent land-item issues that made them close the 2000 yard range area. But I figured that was just that; and you could still do the 1000 yard area, along with the various bays.
This really sucks. All of our long-range loads and ammo; just became 200 yard guns and ammo. Man, those guys really poured their hearts into making that an amazing facility; I feel for them on a personal note on all of this as well - as this has to be a heartbreaker for them too. I don't quite understand how easement works in Texas. I was always under the impression easement was easement; and had to be given. Apparently not, based on the text of the update. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 9:06:48 PM EDT
[#10]
I also just read Jeremy's email, he will surely find another venue
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Posted: 2/28/2021 9:14:42 PM EDT
[#11]
Wow that sucks. We moved to the area about a year ago and being able to get to that range was one of the reasons why I wanted to buy a house where we did.
I guess it's ETTS or nothing now if you want to shoot longer range. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 9:21:23 PM EDT
[#12]
Damn it!
 If I win a big lottery (not likely) I'm going to build the best range in the world.
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Posted: 2/28/2021 9:27:07 PM EDT
[#13]
I am very sad for Jeremy and his crew on this. I’ve been doing work out there for a few years now and to see where he picked it up to where it is now is leaps and bounds above where it was and just about any range I’ve been to in Texas. I don’t know his whole situation or cannot comment on it but the guy has poured a ton of hard work into it and it’s a damn shame.
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Posted: 2/28/2021 9:30:21 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes this is the Cresson range. Seriously a huge loss. There wasn't another range to my knowledge that comes close. I’ve been to a lot and the only thing in Texas I’ve been to that is remotely close is all private gotta be a friend to shoot there. This is a huge loss all around. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 9:36:27 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn it! If I win a big lottery (not likely) I'm going to build the best range in the world. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 9:50:54 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can I retire and come be a groundskeeper? Sure, if you can stand all the debauchery that my friends and I commit.  |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 9:52:14 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sure, if you can stand all the debauchery that my friends and I commit. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 10:04:34 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Eh whatever. After 20 years of BS, I can handle a lot. Perfect attitude. You're hired. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 10:08:00 PM EDT
[#19]
Seems like the trust is affiliated with the Walsh family. Big money oil and gas also doing a 15,000 home master planned development west of Fort Worth. No idea who would have the say on approving something like the range's access road, but it seems a little odd that such a huge land owner would raise a fuss over something like this that had been going on for years.
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Posted: 2/28/2021 10:38:09 PM EDT
[#20]
This really sucks.
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Posted: 3/1/2021 1:12:49 AM EDT
[#21]
Saw this too. Never been but I was signed up for Bob Vogel's class there at the end of March.
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Posted: 3/1/2021 1:49:01 AM EDT
[#22]
Got the email earlier today. Really bummed me out. Best range I've ever been too. Great matches out there. So many fucking different types of competition..... just snuffed out.
Really sucks. |
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Posted: 3/1/2021 8:15:54 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems like the trust is affiliated with the Walsh family. Big money oil and gas also doing a 15,000 home master planned development west of Fort Worth. No idea who would have the say on approving something like the range's access road, but it seems a little odd that such a huge land owner would raise a fuss over something like this that had been going on for years. I’ve dealt with the guy that owns the land where that development is going and he was tough to deal with at times. You have to enter his property on the east side and drive a good ways to get to the SWD/comp station on the west side. I’ve seen him run crews down and throw them off the place for going over the posted speed limit. He used to have a house back towards the middle but it caught fire several years ago and the FD couldn’t get to it because a train was stopped at his gate and blocking the road crossing. |
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Posted: 3/1/2021 9:30:30 AM EDT
[#24]
I feel sorry for Jeremy, I have known him for years and he is a real stand up guy. He built a great range, and put on some real good matches there. I know in Texas most land locked properties are required easement so you can access them. Some times there is a fee, one time or yearly, it sounds like whoever runs the trust that owns the property does not want the range there. So if Jeremy fought this in court all it would do is make 2 lawyers richer.
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Posted: 3/1/2021 9:53:48 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve dealt with the guy that owns the land where that development is going and he was tough to deal with at times. You have to enter his property on the east side and drive a good ways to get to the SWD/comp station on the west side. I’ve seen him run crews down and throw them off the place for going over the posted speed limit. He used to have a house back towards the middle but it caught fire several years ago and the FD couldn’t get to it because a train was stopped at his gate and blocking the road crossing. There's no telling how many people a family/business that size could have calling the shots on different parts of the organization, but them not agreeing to work with Jeremy on the road/lease is a real downer. Putting one of the premier facilities in the state out of business. Really big loss. |
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Posted: 3/1/2021 11:56:42 AM EDT
[#26]
I never went to Triple C, but I had heard of it. I'm sorry for you guys who just lost your long range spot. I know the heartache; we lost Best of the West in Liberty Hill a few years ago. If I hit the stoplights right, it was a 30 minute drive from my house in north Austin. It's a real shame to lose such great ranges.
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Posted: 3/1/2021 12:21:41 PM EDT
[#27]
This range is another 30 minutes further for me but looks like a good alternative. I'll probably go visit and sign up for the family membership soon. http://www.ettsgunrange.com
Edit: I called and spoke to Sky. She was very helpful, and friendly. Sounds promising. Curious about anyones experience out there. |
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Posted: 3/1/2021 12:37:19 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This range is another 30 minutes further for me but looks like a good alternative. I'll probably go visit and sign up for the family membership soon. http://www.ettsgunrange.com Edit: I called and spoke to Sky. She was very helpful, and friendly. Sounds promising. Curious about anyones experience out there. I've only been once and it was their night shoot, so take with a grain of salt: The facilities are ok and the people are great. On the whole, not as good as Triple C was, but almost nowhere met that standard. I'd expect ETTS will become quite popular as it's (AFAIK), the only place that offers public access to practical shooting facilities in the area. I'd love to learn about others though. |
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Posted: 3/1/2021 12:51:16 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This range is another 30 minutes further for me but looks like a good alternative. I'll probably go visit and sign up for the family membership soon. http://www.ettsgunrange.com Edit: I called and spoke to Sky. She was very helpful, and friendly. Sounds promising. Curious about anyones experience out there. I toured the place a couple of years ago. Took 2 hours to get home... They required an annual membership to shoot long range at the time. I am not sure now. The website is not specific on that point. |
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Posted: 3/1/2021 2:01:39 PM EDT
[#30]
I drove all the way from Tyler to TripleC for a class.
I know alot of high-profile trainers who used that facility. Hopefully, ETTS will fill the void. |
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Posted: 3/1/2021 2:23:25 PM EDT
[#31]
ETTS is where I met Jeremy when he put on 3 Gun matches there. ETTS is not a bad place, they have a lot of good size Tac bays, but their longe range was nothing like Triple C.
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Posted: 3/1/2021 11:21:02 PM EDT
[#32]
CRAP.
TCCC was legitimately one of my favorite places. First place I shot at 1k yards. I was planning on starting competing in The Tactical Games there this year too  This blows 
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Posted: 3/2/2021 10:00:54 AM EDT
[#33]
I still haven't figure out how this works. In Texas, land-locked properties are required to have easement access. I don't know the law at all on this, but that property has commercial ranching and commerical oil-well access activity on it as well. Is that access shut-down now too?
Obviously Jeremy has tried; but has an actual lawyer on such things had a chance to review and provide guidance? Probably so - but I'm curious all the same how this works - I thought easement was easement. |
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Posted: 3/2/2021 10:07:14 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I still haven't figure out how this works. In Texas, land-locked properties are required to have easement access. I don't know the law at all on this, but that property has commercial ranching and commerical oil-well access activity on it as well. Is that access shut-down now too? Obviously Jeremy has tried; but has an actual lawyer on such things had a chance to review and provide guidance? Probably so - but I'm curious all the same how this works - I thought easement was easement. I thought we just read about Terlingua-area real estate scams where people are buying lots sight unseen, and there was no easement? Texas Realtors say there are only some rare situations where you can force an easement: https://www.texasrealestate.com/members/communications/texas-realtor-magazine/issues/november-2018/how-can-i-access-my-own-landlocked-property/ |
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Posted: 3/2/2021 12:12:17 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I still haven't figure out how this works. In Texas, land-locked properties are required to have easement access. I don't know the law at all on this, but that property has commercial ranching and commerical oil-well access activity on it as well. Is that access shut-down now too? Obviously Jeremy has tried; but has an actual lawyer on such things had a chance to review and provide guidance? Probably so - but I'm curious all the same how this works - I thought easement was easement. I think it was a bunch of excuses to shut down the range, so they can make more money building houses and such. |
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Posted: 3/2/2021 12:31:34 PM EDT
[#36]
That's possible, but it's a LONG way away from where their - or anyone's - current residential development stuff is. Different parts of outlying parts of the metroplex are heating up for single family housing development, but Cresson hasn't really started with that heat yet.
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Posted: 3/2/2021 12:49:13 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's possible, but it's a LONG way away from where their - or anyone's - current residential development stuff is. Different parts of outlying parts of the metroplex are heating up for single family housing development, but Cresson hasn't really started with that heat yet. True. But these huge tract of land take time to plan, to develop, to get permits,...With the gun range there, they can't start until the gun range is gone--my guess, anyway. |
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Posted: 3/2/2021 6:06:19 PM EDT
[#38]
This sucks.
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Posted: 3/2/2021 7:36:36 PM EDT
[#39]
I've shot lots of matches there and love the facility. This is really crappy news.
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Posted: 3/2/2021 10:24:01 PM EDT
[#40]
Triple C is 10 minutes from my home. I've known Jeremy for a long time and he is real stand-up great guy. I don't know all the circumstances but I'm still hopeful something can be worked out.
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Posted: 3/2/2021 10:31:27 PM EDT
[#41]
It was a great place for long range. Really convenient for me. Hopefully they can work this out or find another place to operate on.
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Posted: 3/2/2021 11:47:57 PM EDT
[#42]
I'm curious what happens to the literal tons of components of the range. The structures and berms aren't likely to move anywhere, but there are a lot of steel targets and misc shooting props out there. I hope Jeremy is able to find another location to set up a new range.
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Posted: 3/5/2021 4:02:42 PM EDT
[#43]
Texas Tactical is open again with a new owner
North of downtown Weatherford |
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Posted: 3/5/2021 4:55:39 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Texas Tactical is open again with a new owner North of downtown Weatherford Is it any good? Length? Nazis? |
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Posted: 3/5/2021 4:57:46 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is it any good? Length? Nazis? site says only 200 yards. |
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Posted: 3/5/2021 5:03:33 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: site says only 200 yards. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is it any good? Length? Nazis? site says only 200 yards. Foiled again Thanks |
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Posted: 3/6/2021 10:23:23 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: site says only 200 yards. Gross |
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Posted: 3/7/2021 9:05:35 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: site says only 200 yards. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is it any good? Length? Nazis? site says only 200 yards. There is a range on 281 south of I20 that goes to 500, or over on down 20 is Tac pro which goes to 1000 |
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Posted: 3/7/2021 9:54:46 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There is a range on 281 south of I20 that goes to 500, or over on down 20 is Tac pro which goes to 1000 Can we get some names on these? I'm on the look out for places to shoot now. |
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Posted: 3/7/2021 2:15:38 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can we get some names on these? I'm on the look out for places to shoot now. http://www.tacproshootingcenter.com/ On SH 108 between IH 20 and Stephenville |
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