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Posted: 3/29/2021 7:28:19 PM EDT
Missouri Sheriffs’ Association Working to Kill 2nd Amendment Preservation Act

By: Mike Maharrey|Published on: Mar 29, 2021|Categories: Police State, Right to Keep and Bear Arms, State Bills

JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. (March 29, 2021) – The Missouri Sheriffs’ Association is aggressively lobbying state senators to gut the recently House-passed Second Amendment Preservation Act, rendering it worthless in practice. Read on to learn the 4 ways they’re trying to make this happen.

Last month, the Missouri House passed House Bill 85 (HB85) by a wide margin. Sponsored by Jared Taylor (R) and titled the “Second Amendment Preservation Act,” the legislation would ban any public officer or employee of the state and its political subdivisions from enforcing all past, present or future “federal acts, laws, executive orders, administrative orders, court orders, rules, regulations, statutes, or ordinances” that infringe on the right to keep and bear arms. The bill includes a detailed definition of actions qualifying as “infringement” that would no longer be enforced in Missouri.

You can read more details about the legislation HERE.


But the Missouri Sheriffs’ Association (MSA) has aggressively lobbied state senators to oppose HB85, claiming that banning them from enforcing current federal gun control – and anything new from the Biden administration – will stop them from “catching criminals.” This is a typical law enforcement scare-tactic. In reality, these law enforcement lobby groups are really only concerned with preserving their “federal partnerships” and all of the federal grant money, asset forfeiture money, and power that go along with them.

MSA AMENDMENT

The MSA has proposed changes to the bill (download their recommended amendment here) that would ensure state and local cops will continue enforcing all federal gun control, including any new measures on the way from the Biden Administration.

1. Change all federal gun control to just future
The first change would limit the bill to ending enforcement of future federal gun control, ensuring that Missouri law enforcement agencies will continue helping in the enforcement of all the federal gun laws already on the books.

2. Legal Trick to Continue enforcement of everything
The MSA changes would also limit actions that infringe on the right to keep and bear arms to just those federal gun control measures “without a statutory basis.” But the feds claim every executive order, administrative order, rule and regulation has a statutory basis.

It is almost always unconstitutional, but the statutory basis exists nevertheless. Even Trump’s “bump stock” ban was based (erroneously) on a statutory basis. In effect, this language would establish a law that would block state and local enforcement of literally nothing.

   “This is a neat legal trick, and I’m sure it’s intentional,” Tenth Amendment Center executive director Michael Boldin said. “This line is an obvious attempt to make the entire thing worthless.”

3. “Law-abiding citizens”
Another change would further neuter the bill. As passed by the House, HB85 protects “law-abiding citizens” from federal actions that infringe on the right to keep and bear arms.  The legislation defines a “law-abiding citizen” as “a person who is not otherwise precluded under state law from possessing a firearm.”  The MSA wants to change that definition to “a person who is not otherwise committing a crime under state or federal law by possessing a firearm or firearm accessory.”

With this change, state and local police would enforce all federal gun control because any person violating federal law is, by definition, committing a crime under federal law. In practice, if Congress passed an assault rifle ban, any person in possession of an assault rifle would in violation of that federal law. If HB85 passes with this MSA change, state and local police would enforce that ban. Again, the change would make the entire legislation worthless.

4. Fake Legal Remedies for the People
The MSA also proposed changes to water down legal remedies included in HB85. The proposed MSA language takes the cause of action (right to sue) against a Missouri agency that enforces an infringing federal action – and replaces it with a cause of action against the president of the United States. This is totally irrelevant in a bill that dictates what Missouri officials can and cannot do, and would in no way punish state officials who violate the law.

WHAT THIS TELLS US

It is clear from these changes that the MSA has no desire to stop federal gun control. In fact, it appears they want to craft a bill that will empower state and local police to cooperate not only with the enforcement of all existing gun control but every federal gun law that comes down the pike in the future.

When the MSA lobbyists claim to care about the Second Amendment, they are lying. Period.

They are not behaving like people who actually want meaningful protections from a federal gun grab. All they seem to care about is protecting their turf and maintaining cash chow that comes from partnering up with the feds. If there is any doubt about this, read the change to the legislative findings in HB85 proposed by the MSA.

   “The general assembly supports all law enforcement activities that are necessary and proper to bring criminals to justice for terrorizing our citizenry. Absent the rule of law and law enforcement there would be only chaos and anarchy. The general assembly supports and encourages law enforcement to work with the federal government to fight crime by way of task forces to seize unlawful substances and property and to bring criminals to justice.” [Emphasis added}

This is federal bootlicking couched in “law and order” language. Meanwhile, the MSA is perfectly happy to toss the “rule of law” into the trash bin when it comes to the Second Amendment and its absolute limits on federal authority.

WHAT’S NEXT

Grassroots pressure will be crucial if we are to overcome these powerful law enforcement lobbyists. Missouri residents should take the following steps.

       Contact Missouri Senate President Pro Tem Dave Schatz and firmly but politely tell him we need the strongest Second Amendment Preservation Act possible as a response to Biden’s promise to infringe on our right to bear arms. You can find his contact information HERE.
       Contact your own state senator with the same message. You can find your state senator HERE.
       Contact your county sheriff and let them know that protecting constitutionally guaranteed rights is more important than partnering with federal enforcement priorities. They should support HB85 and oppose watering it down as MSA is trying to do.

Tags: 2nd Amendment Preservation Act, Federal Gun Control, HB85, Law Enforcement, Missouri, Missouri Sheriffs Association
Mike Maharrey

We need to push for the Senate version of SAPA. The one that isn't watered down. I don't know how to put pressure on the Sheriffs Asoc. If anybody has any Ideas about how to do this please share.
Link Posted: 4/3/2021 5:25:16 PM EDT
I contacted my Senator and ask her to support HB85 if it hits the floor of the Senate irregardless of all the whining and telling lies by the MSA and she replied that she fully supported HB85 and will vote for it if it hits the Senate floor.
Link Posted: 4/3/2021 11:59:17 PM EDT
I'm Watching this carefully...I and my wife are moving from NH to south central Missouri in June. NH is teetering on the precipice of becoming what every other state in the New England area has become. When we were fighting for Constitutional Carry a few years back, our biggest foes were law enforcement agents. They were told in so many words to pound sand.

We are moving to Mt. View in Howell county and if someone here would be so kind to let me know who I can contact there (my senator and/or representative) it would be appreciated....I might as well make a noise in my new home town/county before I get there.
Link Posted: 4/4/2021 10:51:47 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By dedmouse:
...if someone here would be so kind to let me know who I can contact there (my senator and/or representative) it would be appreciated.
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https://www.senate.mo.gov/legislookup/default.aspx

https://house.mo.gov/legislatorlookup.aspx
Link Posted: 4/4/2021 2:30:51 PM EDT
Thanks!
Link Posted: 4/5/2021 5:16:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RU98A:
I contacted my Senator and ask her to support HB85 if it hits the floor of the Senate irregardless of all the whining and telling lies by the MSA and she replied that she fully supported HB85 and will vote for it if it hits the Senate floor.
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Who's your Senator?
Link Posted: 4/5/2021 7:38:29 PM EDT
Karla Eslinger
Link Posted: 4/11/2021 7:21:13 AM EDT
FWIW . . .


Link Posted: 4/11/2021 4:54:23 PM EDT
This may be some more BS by the MSA. Not all law enforcement protect the gun rights of the MO citizen. Remember a few years ago when the MSHP gave the feds a list of every CCW holder in the state with the blessing of the Governor at that time and nothing was done about it except the law got changed.
Link Posted: 4/11/2021 6:08:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RU98A:
This may be some more BS by the MSA. Not all law enforcement protect the gun rights of the MO citizen. Remember a few years ago when the MSHP gave the feds a list of every CCW holder in the state with the blessing of the Governor at that time and nothing was done about it except the law got changed.
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Yes.
Link Posted: 4/12/2021 12:07:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RU98A:
This may be some more BS by the MSA. Not all law enforcement protect the gun rights of the MO citizen. Remember a few years ago when the MSHP gave the feds a list of every CCW holder in the state with the blessing of the Governor at that time and nothing was done about it except the law got changed.
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Wasn't that the DMV? That's when the CCW permit process was moved to the Sheriff's Offices...
Link Posted: 4/12/2021 7:16:58 AM EDT
If I remember correctly the DMV was keeping the records but the MSHP was the agency that gave the feds a cd with all the names and addresses of the MO CCW holders with the blessing of the Governor at that time. Then when all that came to light the law was changed so that the sheriffs office was to issue the CCW permits.
Link Posted: 4/12/2021 7:45:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By LawnGuy:


Wasn't that the DMV? That's when the CCW permit process was moved to the Sheriff's Offices...
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It was the Dept of Revenue that handled the CCW issuance process, which some call the DMV.

They gave it to the feds under the guise of investigating disability fraud.  It's BS because there's nothing in the law that disabled people can't have a CCW.
Link Posted: 4/12/2021 9:18:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By LawnGuy:


Wasn't that the DMV? That's when the CCW permit process was moved to the Sheriff's Offices...
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No it was the HP

https://www.columbiatribune.com/article/20130411/News/304119854
Link Posted: 4/12/2021 10:17:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By madmacs69:


No it was the HP

https://www.columbiatribune.com/article/20130411/News/304119854
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And the feds said they couldn't access the data so they destroyed it......yeah right.  One of the other articles said because it was password protected and when the senate asked what the password was, the guy revealed that it was simply "CCW".
Link Posted: 4/12/2021 11:24:15 AM EDT
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Old can of worms has now got opened again. Now MSA tell us again the lie that all law enforcement agencies in MO are here to protect the citizens of MO of their second amendment rights and that we don't need SAPA at all. Isn't the language that the individual officers are subject to the $50,000.00 fine and loss of POST certification removed from the bill and that the agency itself is subject to the fine if SAPA law is violated? Please correct me if I am wrong.
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Originally Posted By RU98A:
Isn't the language that the individual officers are subject to the $50,000.00 fine and loss of POST certification removed from the bill and that the agency itself is subject to the fine if SAPA law is violated? Please correct me if I am wrong.
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That's what I read too. They won't violate your rights, but if/when they do it's the fault of the department.
Link Posted: 4/13/2021 5:17:01 PM EDT
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That's what I read too. They won't violate your rights, but if/when they do it's the fault of the department.
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Originally Posted By 67Firebird:
Originally Posted By RU98A:
Isn't the language that the individual officers are subject to the $50,000.00 fine and loss of POST certification removed from the bill and that the agency itself is subject to the fine if SAPA law is violated? Please correct me if I am wrong.


That's what I read too. They won't violate your rights, but if/when they do it's the fault of the department.


It was originally individuals (should still be) but the sheriffs association managed to get it watered down to department.
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 12:40:37 AM EDT
Anyone tell me where Parsons stands on this?
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 11:33:50 AM EDT
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Anyone tell me where Parsons stands on this?
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I dont recall seeing any comment... which way is the wind blowing?
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 2:09:28 PM EDT
I haven't seen any comment either way from Parsons but remember he is a former sheriff and that gives me a bad feeling about his choice.
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 4:05:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mattgunguy:
Anyone tell me where Parsons stands on this?
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I suspect Gov. Parson (only one s) would just as soon this gets hung up in a Senate filibuster. That would save him from having to take a stand.
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