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Posted: 1/11/2021 9:31:04 PM EDT
[#1]
Phone number required?
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:29:46 PM EDT
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Not going to tack, the posts just get lost in the headers. Just keep it bumped.
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:59:00 PM EDT
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Quoted: I have created a group "arfcomtx" for texas members to go in case this place goes dark. This uses the encrypted app called "Telegram" Remember, nobody is vetted as of yet, and even though encrypted, don't consider it secure. Don't say anything dumb. https://t.me/joinchat/VJeTLuKCyrJBOoWz Wonderful. Another self-identifying group name. I will stick with the 2021 Rattlesnake Rally folks. I know you mean well, but think this stuff out. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:06:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wonderful. Another self-identifying group name. I will stick with the 2021 Rattlesnake Rally folks. I know you mean well, but think this stuff out. I'm no expert at this. Give me a good name! Say it, it shall be done |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:07:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Phone number required? Yes. When you sign up to telegram, you must enter your phone number |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:13:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm no expert at this. Give me a good name! Say it, it shall be done 2021 Rattlesnake Rally is what Virginia HTF is using. 2021 BBQ Poker Run, etc., would non- descript. Even 2020 might be better, indicating it is now defunct. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:18:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 2021 Rattlesnake Rally is what Virginia HTF is using. 2021 BBQ Poker Run, etc., would non- descript. Even 2020 might be better, indicating it is now defunct. The channel name is now 2020 BBQ Poker Run |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:40:59 PM EDT
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I don’t think “arfcom” means AR15.com to anyone but us. Probably not the best opsec but not terrible.
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:44:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t think “arfcom” means AR15.com to anyone but us. Probably not the best opsec but not terrible. First result on google is ar15.com Second result is Urban dictionary: TOP DEFINITION arfcom An internet slang term for the website AR15.com |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:48:39 PM EDT
[#10]
Well, okay then.
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:51:30 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, okay then. opsec is getting more and more important. Here is another pro-tip leave the cell phone home. I think they stingrayed the Capitol crowd. I think that is SOP now. |
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Posted: 1/12/2021 1:01:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: opsec is getting more and more important. Here is another pro-tip leave the cell phone home. I think they stingrayed the Capitol crowd. I think that is SOP now. Yep, that makes a lot of sense. |
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Posted: 1/12/2021 1:13:24 PM EDT
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"People no longer want to trade their privacy for free services"
I'm RIGHT THERE man. It's not free if they can bend you over any time they want.
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Posted: 1/12/2021 1:41:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The channel name is now 2020 BBQ Poker Run Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 2021 Rattlesnake Rally is what Virginia HTF is using. 2021 BBQ Poker Run, etc., would non- descript. Even 2020 might be better, indicating it is now defunct. The channel name is now 2020 BBQ Poker Run Sounds good. Maybe soon, it's time to have a burner phone or two. 
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Posted: 1/12/2021 11:47:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The channel name is now 2020 BBQ Poker Run No results. |
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Posted: 1/12/2021 11:55:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No results. It's set to private right now. The invite link is https://t.me/joinchat/VJeTLuKCyrJBOoWz |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 12:02:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. When you sign up to telegram, you must enter your phone number Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Phone number required? Yes. When you sign up to telegram, you must enter your phone number 867-5309 Going to look into this . No doubt we will need all the comms we can get. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 12:30:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI'm in and spouting off on random stuff. Thanks for setting this up! |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 12:46:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The channel name is now 2020 BBQ Poker Run Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 2021 Rattlesnake Rally is what Virginia HTF is using. 2021 BBQ Poker Run, etc., would non- descript. Even 2020 might be better, indicating it is now defunct. The channel name is now 2020 BBQ Poker Run Damn, was hoping for Imitation Crab Meat Enthusiasts Anonymous |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 12:54:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn, was hoping for Imitation Crab Meat Enthusiasts Anonymous 
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Posted: 1/13/2021 2:36:00 PM EDT
[#21]
J.R. Here
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Posted: 1/13/2021 2:40:31 PM EDT
[#22]
Also, for iOS users don’t forget to disable iOS call integration.
Settings > privacy and security > calls > iOS call integration |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 2:44:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also, for iOS users don’t forget to disable iOS call integration. Settings > privacy and security > calls > iOS call integration Done. thanks for the tip |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 3:03:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn, was hoping for Imitation Crab Meat Enthusiasts Anonymous Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: 2021 Rattlesnake Rally is what Virginia HTF is using. 2021 BBQ Poker Run, etc., would non- descript. Even 2020 might be better, indicating it is now defunct. The channel name is now 2020 BBQ Poker Run Damn, was hoping for Imitation Crab Meat Enthusiasts Anonymous Fair point |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 5:50:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: opsec is getting more and more important. Totally agree. At this point just trying to maintain a reasonable level of privacy takes some work. This is a good resource for those of you that want to brush up. https://inteltechniques.com/podcast.html |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 6:18:55 PM EDT
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We have a nice little group started. I have removed the link to the channel in the OP. If you would like access to the channel, please send me an IM for the new invite link.
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Posted: 1/14/2021 6:53:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/15/2021 3:44:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Phone number required? @bulldawg eesmith posted this in another thread: https://social.techjunkie.com/use-telegram-without-phone-number/ https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/-sign-up-for-my-newsletter-podcast-and-telegram-channel/75-2413212/ |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 3:56:03 AM EDT
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Quoted: Update 01/13 We have a nice little group started. I have removed the public link to the channel. If you would like access, please IM me and I'll share the link. I have created a group "2020 BBQ Poker Run" for Texas members to go in case this place goes dark. This uses the encrypted app called "Telegram" Remember, nobody is vetted as of yet, and even though encrypted, don't consider it secure. Don't say anything dumb. For those new to Telegram, here are some guidelines when signing up/using --- OPSEC CHECK --- --General Settings Never use real name. Never use real display pictures. Leave username blank; having a username makes you easier to identify and find. Nothing revealing in your bio. --Privacy Settings Phone number -> Nobody Last Seen & Online -> Nobody Profile Photo -> Everybody (you'll look suss without it) Forwarded Messages -> Nobody Calls -> Nobody Add to Groups -> Contacts --Security Set passcode. Set two factor authentication password. --Additional Phone Who can see it -> Nobody Who can find me via it -> Contacts (not the best but it's the best telegram will allow) --Additional Call Who can call -> Nobody Peer to Peer -> Nobody For iOS users, disable iOS call integration. Settings > privacy and security > calls > iOS call integration I have enabled auto-lock under the passcode lock settings... Encrypted messages are useless if the phone and app are unlocked if/when siezed. Same applies to Signal and other encrypted messaging apps. Keep them locked when not in use. I'm considering the account self-destruct option. If not using the app/account, why keep it around? I'm told you cannot be compelled to unlock the phone with a pin/something you know, but your fingerprint can be used to unlock devices... /Shrug I don't know but I just use a pin instead of easily used biometrics. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 6:16:23 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @bulldawg eesmith posted this in another thread: https://social.techjunkie.com/use-telegram-without-phone-number/ https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/-sign-up-for-my-newsletter-podcast-and-telegram-channel/75-2413212/ Time for a Breaking Bad phone, I guess. Do they still sell those at the Quikee Mart with 250 pre-paid minutes to Mexico? |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 7:48:56 PM EDT
[#31]
IM sent
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:22:02 PM EDT
[#32]
Anyone else having trouble with the invite link?
Also does anyone have the invite for the Discord that was created in another post? Can’t seem to find the original post. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:12:40 AM EDT
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One thing I will say, having been in IT for over a decade now, nothing is 100% secure. Maybe if you control the hardware, fully audited the source code, built the app from the source code, have similar security around the tools used to build the app, you might be getting into the realm of reasonably secure. We also don't know what kind of unreported zero day vulnerabilities the nation state hackers can exploit.
Also, encryption is not completely unbreakable. The security of encryption is not based on if it is unbreakable, but if it is unbreakable within a reasonable amount of time. Nation states that can afford to cluster 20000 servers to crack a single message could brute force it in a shorter amount of time. They could also know of back doors or weakness in the encryption algorithms that they keep as closely held secrets. But the more that these apps are used for everyday conversations, the more traffic it generates so that hackers don't know where they need to focus their efforts, like a needle in a hay stack. Moral of the story, many of these apps are pretty secure, but don't have a Titanic "this ship can not sink" attitude with them. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:11:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone else having trouble with the invite link? Also does anyone have the invite for the Discord that was created in another post? Can’t seem to find the original post. I may have missed it, but can anyone here vouch for you? We see a brand new unpaid member, under 20 posts, showing a Colorado location, posting in the Texas forum, wanting to join various private groups, when these private groups are being set up in attempts to establish alternate and relatively secure means of communication with known individuals... I hope you understand if people give you the silent treatment. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:48:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I may have missed it, but can anyone here vouch for you? We see a brand new unpaid member, under 20 posts, showing a Colorado location, posting in the Texas forum, wanting to join various private groups, when these private groups are being set up in attempts to establish alternate and relatively secure means of communication with known individuals... I hope you understand if people give you the silent treatment. No worries I understand the concern. No one here unfortunately, as I’m new here obviously. I was on Reddit until I got tired of supporting the website. I’ve been on Keybase since then with the 3D printing guys. I’ve just recently created an alternative community on there for here too, although only have a few members so far. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:32:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No worries I understand the concern. No one here unfortunately, as I’m new here obviously. I was on Reddit until I got tired of supporting the website. I’ve been on Keybase since then with the 3D printing guys. I’ve just recently created an alternative community on there for here too, although only have a few members so far. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I may have missed it, but can anyone here vouch for you? We see a brand new unpaid member, under 20 posts, showing a Colorado location, posting in the Texas forum, wanting to join various private groups, when these private groups are being set up in attempts to establish alternate and relatively secure means of communication with known individuals... I hope you understand if people give you the silent treatment. No worries I understand the concern. No one here unfortunately, as I’m new here obviously. I was on Reddit until I got tired of supporting the website. I’ve been on Keybase since then with the 3D printing guys. I’ve just recently created an alternative community on there for here too, although only have a few members so far. Keybase is unfriendly territory. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:54:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Keybase is unfriendly territory. Is there an issue with it? I haven’t had any issues or heard anything negative about it. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:58:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is there an issue with it? I haven’t had any issues or heard anything negative about it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Keybase is unfriendly territory. Is there an issue with it? I haven’t had any issues or heard anything negative about it. They changed their ToS specifically to nuke the Arfcom group. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 4:36:15 AM EDT
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@hondaciv
Requesting some assistance with telegram Pm sent Thanks |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:32:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @hondaciv Requesting some assistance with telegram Pm sent Thanks Replied |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:55:13 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They changed their ToS specifically to nuke the Arfcom group. Oh crap. Thanks for letting me know, since I was unaware of that. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:59:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Time for a Breaking Bad phone, I guess. Do they still sell those at the Quikee Mart with 250 pre-paid minutes to Mexico? If I had a pile of fun-money that wasn't already allocated, when the Google Pixel goes on sale, hit up Bestbuy or some place local, pay cash, then kick google out the door by installing GrapheneOS... Use free wifi someplace other than your work/home. - https://grapheneos.org/ Use cash/gift-cards to obtain SIM card. Be very conservative about application installation. Only what's necessary but include VPN with a kill-switch feature to keep your IP address on lock-down. Use browser based services to avoid adding potential vectors of compromise to your phone. Minimize your footprint. Don't install apps then use your known creds/identities or you might further comprise your privacy. Etc. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 5:05:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/19/2021 2:17:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:52:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/21/2021 1:39:44 PM EDT
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Message sent for link
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:30:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/23/2021 4:01:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Civ....What kinds of question you ask for vetting? Give the candidate hard questions...Like who killed AROCK?  
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Posted: 1/25/2021 12:47:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Civ....What kinds of question you ask for vetting? Give the candidate hard questions...Like who killed AROCK? I lol'd. I'm going to hell. 
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Posted: 1/25/2021 12:53:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Like who killed AROCK? Whoever it was, fuck him! |
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