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Posted: 11/26/2018 10:53:53 PM EDT
I am seriously considering writing my rep, along with Hans Hunt, whom I have met several times and is sympathetic to this cause.
I want to set up something like an electoral college for the state to prevent Cheyenne from screwing us. We all know Cheyenne is pretty much Colorado, as well as our Capital, and we aren't too many years away from them ruining the rest of the state. Laramie, Jackson, and Casper are part of the equation too, and I think it would behoove us to get something like this through before this wonderful state is ruined by Cheyenne. Thoughts? |
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I am seriously considering writing my rep, along with Hans Hunt, whom I have met several times and is sympathetic to this cause. I want to set up something like an electoral college for the state to prevent Cheyenne from screwing us. We all know Cheyenne is pretty much Colorado, as well as our Capital, and we aren't too many years away from them ruining the rest of the state. Laramie, Jackson, and Casper are part of the equation too, and I think it would behoove us to get something like this through before this wonderful state is ruined by Cheyenne. Thoughts? View Quote |
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Hey guys,
Sort of getting out of my lane here as I'm a Nevadan living the nightmare. Big obstacles your looking at are the decisions Sims v. Reynolds and specifically Baker v. Carr, but if you can figure out a way to make the nuetering of the mountain west costly to the tax base, or somehow lock up the legislature now in order to create some form of County requirement for changing the state constitution, however you may run into issues as stated above with the decisions from the US Supreme Court requiring states to count votes without weight. Keep in mind, it really has nothing to do with ideas, policy, anything you would hope a late stage democratic process would embrace. For us, talking about what made Nevada great was seen as weakness, it was a simple arms race, blue shirts versus red-we devolved from discussing what was best for Nevada to simply winning, vanquish the enemy and force them to terms. The blue shirts won this one, and trying to discuss or appeal to anything otherwise was a total waste of time. I'm just warning you, be ready to mobilize your vote, ideas and respectful dialogue is what made Nevada run well for 150 years. Complacent we continued to believe it would, we were wrong. Hashtags, bumper sticker slogans and groupthink, seeing your fellow citizen as an opponent who is less than you, sadly, it's the only thing that matters. Really, get dirty if you have to, voter ID, difficult polling places, things I'd never support in the past, force the fight? Anyway, sorry for my rant. I love Wyoming as I said-I'm going to stay and try, but hopefully our fight here will give you all ideas of how to win, and when I make my move to your beautiful free state the beers are on me. |
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My wife and I are both very conservative and recently moved to Cheyenne from CT. We're trying to help keep it from becoming another Denver and by default California.
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I hate to say it gents but the stupidity of other states is moving in person by person every day. Even in my little conservative little town I am seeing less American flags hanging even on our block year by year and more Bernie and other blue signs popping up on the houses. We even had about 30 people with signs yelling and wanting attention in Main Street protesting the Supreme Court decision it was pathetic. I am a young man at 32 but even I can see that the plane is going down and these fools will ride it right into the ground. I am down for trying anything we can to pull up and get back on track. But more and more I feel like ordering a drink and getting my family prepared because I think the next 10-20 years our beautiful state is going to be destroyed by the idiots coming from all directions. I will write to our representatives I will do whatever we need done but I even question if we have representation anymore with the events of the last decade. I guess time will tell, sorry about my crappy grammar and spelling and rant before heading to work. Keep your heads down and powder dry gentalmen we are in for interesting times.
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One thing you have it seems is the initiative, right now, to do something creative and have the backing of the people to do it.
Wyoming is an identity, Nevada had it but was overcome by greed and geography. When your political leadership is actively recruiting newcomers from specific political demographics with radio and television ads describing your state as "progressive and diverse", well, the results are in. Maybe the Wyoming way of life needs to be advertised, recruit industries friendly to your values, advertise in places under siege, I know a number of Colorado and Nevada people who are fighting hard and losing-looking for a place to draw a line and live where personal liberty and responsibility are protected. Maybe that will keep the numbers flowing in your direction. |
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Cheyenne may be close to Colorado geographically, but the OP is incorrect that Cheyenne will become like Colorado politically. Cheyenne is very conservative and votes that way. Laramie on the other hand.....
There are folks from Colorado moving to the Cheyenne area. More and more it seems, but many are conservative and getting away from Colorado liberals. |
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Cheyenne may be close to Colorado geographically, but the OP is incorrect that Cheyenne will become like Colorado politically. Cheyenne is very conservative and votes that way. Laramie on the other hand..... There are folks from Colorado moving to the Cheyenne area. More and more it seems, but many are conservative and getting away from Colorado liberals. View Quote I got out of the army in CO and hired out with UPRR in 2004, and lived in and around Cheyenne until may of 2007. I still visit friends frequently, most of which have lived in Cheyenne most of their lives, if not their entire lives. It was changing for the worse even when I moved away, and my friends admit that it is becoming little Colorado. The local politicians dream of being little FOCO, and would do everything, short of getting on their knees, to be part of the front range. The Greenies move here to commute, and not pay state taxes, while tripping over themselves to make Cheyenne a reasonable facsimile of Ft. Collins. Even if you are correct that we have a majority of conservative Greenies moving into Cheyenne, which I highly suspect, it doesn't matter because most of them have families. Even the most conservative gun nut can have a wife that doesn't like the smell of rancher Joe's feed lot that was there 50 years before her HOA subdivision. The wife is bored (nothing to do in Wyoming, wish we were back in the Front Range), joins the PTA, has coffee with other bored Greenie moms. They decide we need more culture, and petitions the school board to de-fund 4-H, to include shooting sports (ick!!! guns!!!) to fund more inclusive and diverse school activities. She will always fight to the end to make laws to protect her fiefdom and nest. Most people hate "Wyoming". They want urban amenities, they want stuff to do, restaurants, night life, and a little sprinkling of pretty views and outdoors once or twice a year. Look at any Cheyenne FB page. People begging for new restaurants, stores, artisan cake shops, microbreweries, etc. Women lamenting how they wish they could turn Cheyenne into FOCO. Guess what comes with all of that? People and comfort. Once you make a place more comfortable and attractive to urbanites, more and more people come. The more infrastructure, restaurants, and luxuries you have, the more population it will bring. Population always leads to more laws, less freedom, and eventually Socialism. The reason Wyoming is so free is because we have very few people here. Don't believe me? Take a look at any story from Tribune-Eagle, or Star Tribune (which just recently moved to Cheyenne and bacame another Tribune-Eagle) and read the posts. Typically, 60% of the comments are straight up Socialists bitching about how Wyoming is so backwards, the energy industry, diversifying industry, bringing in new business, killing coal, shooting wolves and bears are bad. It is to the point of absurdity. We see it in letters to the editor every week. Some transplant to Cheyenne or Casper making a stink about something they don't like about Wyoming's freedoms. Cheyenne, Casper, Laramie, and to a lesser extent, the pretty little mountain towns are going to ruin this state. What I am proposing is that those of us that see the writing on the wall do something about it. Talk to friends, write our legislators, try to get something like a state electoral college set up so these large towns cannot screw the rest of the state (much like Denver, Atlanta, DFW/Houston/Austin, SoCal, SLC, etc, etc, etc). I bet @Sparks556 @Guns762 and others will be on board. |
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I've got a pretty pessimistic view of anything politics anymore, especially local/state. I just don't see anything but the inevitable increase of bullshit.
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This is true, drafting a letter to our reps this week and will be sending it out. We should use this post to hit all the same spots what are the main topics we all wanna hit first?
I just wrote one based on the bump stock issue happening. I don't even own a bump stock but this is just one more cut on the rights of the people. The libs will never quit until we are all unprotected sheep so sad. |
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I'm becoming worried also. Not so much about Casper (yet) but definitely Cheyenne with all the CO transplants. I've seen it before with California - They trash it and then flee, then go right back to turning the place they moved to into the place they moved from. Locusts, man.
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I'm becoming worried also. Not so much about Casper (yet) but definitely Cheyenne with all the CO transplants. I've seen it before with California - They trash it and then flee, then go right back to turning the place they moved to into the place they moved from. Locusts, man. View Quote We need to get this rolling before it's too late. Maybe we could have a get together and come up with ideas. |
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Cheyenne and Casper are a bit of a ways from being a problem.
Jackson and Laramie are where more of a problem. Easy link to see voter number in different Wyo counties. https://www.politico.com/election-results/2018/wyoming/governor/ Left leaning sportsman and sportsman's groups are more of a problem and won Tester the Montanan Senate election. |
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Cheyenne and Casper are a bit of a ways from being a problem. Jackson and Laramie are where more of a problem. Easy link to see voter number in different Wyo counties. https://www.politico.com/election-results/2018/wyoming/governor/ Left leaning sportsman and sportsman's groups are more of a problem and won Tester the Montanan Senate election. View Quote Hunter (D) 7300 Cheney (R) 3800 Trauner (D) 6500 Gordon (R) 4700 And so on. My point? The supposed Leftist bastion of Wyoming is, roughly, 40% Conservative. Some other points to consider: -The Leftist majority here in Teton County is largely due to short term transients. They can vote as soon as they establish residency here. Frankly, I don't see much of a threat to Wyoming from a few thousand ski bums who may be here for a year or three. -Conservative heavy hitters, people with money, and influence, who are on OUR side, are well represented in Teton County. Foster Friess, Dick Cheney. -There are 23 Counties in Wyoming. There are roughly 20K people who are counted as "residents" of Teton County. Many of these people are second home owners and are not residents for voting purposes. Population of Wyoming is about 590K. The influence of Teton County in State elections, and in the bicameral Wyoming State Legislature, is NEVER decisive. The Leftist electeds here are always whining about how little they can expect to accomplish on a State level. So exactly what "problem" does Teton County pose? I would suggest that, if you are interested in heading off threats to the Wyoming way of life, you would do well to reinforce measures that strengthen the very real Conservative presence in this part of the State. |
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I don't really think Casper is part of the problem yet, as it still votes overwhelmingly red. It doesn't have nearly the same liberal feel that Laramie and Cheyenne do, but I do understand that could possibly change with further growth and influx of out of state liberals.
For now I think it helps balance out Cheyenne. I think it possibly being a problem is a long ways off, but you are correct the time to fight that possibility would be now not later. I too have concerns of the future in Wyoming, I don't want to see it become like Colorado. |
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Cheyenne and Casper are a bit of a ways from being a problem. Jackson and Laramie are where more of a problem. Easy link to see voter number in different Wyo counties. https://www.politico.com/election-results/2018/wyoming/governor/ Left leaning sportsman and sportsman's groups are more of a problem and won Tester the Montanan Senate election. View Quote At least some of Casper's growth has been from the energy sector employment, not usually a liberal voting block. |
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Cheyenne and Casper are a bit of a ways from being a problem. Jackson and Laramie are where more of a problem. Easy link to see voter number in different Wyo counties. https://www.politico.com/election-results/2018/wyoming/governor/ Left leaning sportsman and sportsman's groups are more of a problem and won Tester the Montanan Senate election. View Quote |
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Maybe, but I am willing to bet money on Cheyenne turning way blue and screwing the rest of the state like Denver does to CO. The reason won't be any Sportsman group, it'll just be plain old leftists moving into Cheyenne like locusts. View Quote |
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Quoted: I think you are right but it may be harder for them, being they have a long ways to go before Cheyenne/Laramie county gets anywhere near the population to dominate the state. View Quote It's not a far stretch to say it would be easy to start creeping into state politics for newcomers to Cheyenne. |
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Hate to say it guys... it started to happen 20 or so yrs ago and once any type of legal pot usage happens it's a quick downhill ride to a blue state.
In the early 90's you could buy a t shirt at the Eagle's Nest in Cheyenne that said "We have a cure for Aids in Wyoming, we shoot F@$&ing Fagots", a couple years ago I stop by the Pilot on the wes why to myt side of Laramie for fuel on my uncles in Med Bow and 2 females get out of car with county 6 plates and start making out, WTF... I'm heading back to Lander in a couple years to retire on the family ranch and have noticed a big change there over the past 15yrs or so, coffee shops, mtn bike shops, fancyish restaurants with vegan and gluten free menu options and Mr D's and Safeway have they options too. Best thing to do is be diligent when I comes to protecting the values and what Wyoming is and build a wall to limit the invasion. |
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Hate to say it guys... it started to happen 20 or so yrs ago and once any type of legal pot usage happens it's a quick downhill ride to a blue state.
In the early 90's you could buy a t shirt at the Eagle's Nest in Cheyenne that said "We have a cure for Aids in Wyoming, we shoot F@$&ing Fagots", a couple years ago I stop by the Pilot on the wes why to myt side of Laramie for fuel on my uncles in Med Bow and 2 females get out of car with county 6 plates and start making out, WTF... I'm heading back to Lander in a couple years to retire on the family ranch and have noticed a big change there over the past 15yrs or so, coffee shops, mtn bike shops, fancyish restaurants with vegan and gluten free menu options and Mr D's and Safeway have they options too. Best thing to do is be diligent when I comes to protecting the values and what Wyoming is and build a wall to limit the invasion. |
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It's not limited to just Cheyenne or the like, instead the state as a whole. Cheyenne, Cody, Jackson, Lander, Sheridan all have had an influx from Colorado, Cali or the like. I've run into tree huggers who moved from California because it became too crowded, then to Colorado but later left because it was too crowded and now are here.
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Flying out of Denver after a couple days in Fort Collins.
What a ruined place. Grew up on the front range in the 70's and 80's. So sad. Hope Wyoming doesn't go that way, but I can see these dipshits heading that way. |
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This is why we have to keep up on bills being voted on and how our elected officials are representing us. Complacency kills.
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For those of you concerned about Leftists hijacking Wyoming:
-Senate file 49: "Senate File 49 passed the House in a 33-26 vote Monday, which means now all that's needed is Gov. Mark Gordon's signature. The bill gives private schools across Wyoming the same exemptions from county zoning granted to public schools." Teton County government just got slapped down by the Wyoming Legislature. Apparently at the behest of Foster Friess, a conservative resident of this County. Something similar is about to happen at the State level to ensure that landowners here can subdivide their property for their children in spite of restrictive County regulations. |
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One segment of our population that for sure is our enemy is the local professors of the humanities. They are almost totally PHDs from some place else
who are 100% radical left. The board has no one else to choose from. One tenured prof of English here in Powell taught a course this spring semester based on a book called The Sixth Extinction. Basically how we are wiping out scores of species because global warming. Propaganda masquerading as an English credit paid for in some part by tax dollars. They are state employees. She was a friend of mine until I heard that. I told her my new mission in life was the destruction of the American university system. But I have no means of doing that other than running my mouth. |
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One segment of our population that for sure is our enemy is the local professors of the humanities. They are almost totally PHDs from some place else who are 100% radical left. The board has no one else to choose from. One tenured prof of English here in Powell taught a course this spring semester based on a book called The Sixth Extinction. Basically how we are wiping out scores of species because global warming. Propaganda masquerading as an English credit paid for in some part by tax dollars. They are state employees. She was a friend of mine until I heard that. I told her my new mission in life was the destruction of the American university system. But I have no means of doing that other than running my mouth. View Quote |
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