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Posted: 4/15/2018 11:43:33 AM EDT
[#1]
LOL on the dog's fleas.
I should be in, unless I have to wash my hair. Like the advance planning. Just put it on my calendar. |
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Posted: 4/15/2018 11:48:18 AM EDT
[#2]
I’m in!
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Posted: 4/15/2018 11:54:57 AM EDT
[#3]
@DonofKalifornia
@Gloftoe @TKLOL @Charliedontsurf @1fromtx @villageidiot @bishop3 @biggerhammer @rbread @FP2000H @bollox @HAMOCK |
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Posted: 4/15/2018 11:58:45 AM EDT
[#4]
I will be there even if I didn't have vacation time! For freedom I'm always will to give up some money and time.
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Posted: 4/15/2018 12:46:06 PM EDT
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Hah, that far exceeds the limitations of my time machine. Assuming I'm still alive and kicking I'll put it on my calendar.
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Posted: 4/15/2018 3:09:29 PM EDT
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I saw something in another post in GD. FYI, I made this thread without forward thinking. I didn't need it. It sounded like a good idea. There is almost 3/4 of a year to plan it. But getting back to my point....
I am not a fringe nutjob(something that I saw in another thread). Nor do I don't belong to any particular group. Not because I don't want to or have something against them, because I never thought about. My group, so far is the NRA. I don't judge your group. If you are 2nd amendment friendly then hopefully this rally will be for you. AND A BIG FYI, belonging to a group that doesn't dress or talk like you does not make them a fringe nutjob, it makes them human. I am an ordinary guy, almost Ward Cleaver. The only thing that stands out about me, that I perceive, is I am LOUD, naturally loud. I have never had to try to yell, it just flows. Beyond that, I do not have a ZZ Top beard, I am not a toker, I am not a militia guy, I don't strap rifles to my back for rally's. And I don't judge, or I try like hell not to. YOU DO YOU, I will do me, the 2nd Amendment is for all of us. Well until they make it not for all of us.... It takes all kinds to forward our cause. Lot's of people in militia garb, ZZ Top beards, open carriers, etc are really super nice people. So Ward Cleaver, get off your ass. Insurance salemen, car dealers, doctors, nurses, FIREMEN, COPS, lawyers, factory workers, farmers, everybody, quit with any judgement. Quit with "meh if they are gonna be there I will stay home" nonsense. Deal with it. If you knew me you would know how hard that is for me to say. I like plain. I like private. I like routine. I don't like out of my comfort zone. Well too bad. This is a cause we all have in common. Come and support it, in the good times. Let those who would make it hard on your rights know you won't tolerate it. If you won't support the 2A because a certain group would be somewhere, then YOU WILL TOLERATE IT. If this cause is not more important than your comfort zone, maybe you should check yourself? |
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Posted: 4/15/2018 7:02:57 PM EDT
[#7]
I'll plan for it.
My wife and got there early. We toured the capital and walked the ground for a while. I'm was a little stand offish at first . I wanted to gauge the crowd and see if any plate carries showed. I was glad not to personally see one. I actually waited to long to go into the group . The speeches started right after I walked up and I didn't want to distract from the speakers. I looked for Lug1's sign but didn't see it. Turns out I wasn't to far away. I was wearing the blue check shirt, no visible handgun. Maybe we can have a few meetings and really try to get organized with this. |
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Posted: 4/15/2018 7:48:29 PM EDT
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I'll plan for it. My wife and got there early. We toured the capital and walked the ground for a while. I'm was a little stand offish at first . I wanted to gauge the crowd and see if any plate carries showed. I was glad not to personally see one. I actually waited to long to go into the group . The speeches started right after I walked up and I didn't want to distract from the speakers. I looked for Lug1's sign but didn't see it. Turns out I wasn't to far away. I was wearing the blue check shirt, no visible handgun. Maybe we can have a few meetings and really try to get organized with this. We all can have differences but for a couple hours on a given day we should all be able to tolerate each other for a common goal is my only point. My sign was Shall Not Be Infringed, hence the chant on the other side of the Capital building. |
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Posted: 4/15/2018 7:56:56 PM EDT
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I'm in San Angelo.
I can travel, probably more people in your area than mine anyway. |
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Posted: 4/15/2018 11:04:15 PM EDT
[#10]
I can do my part. I will be also contacting my state reps.
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Posted: 4/15/2018 11:19:55 PM EDT
[#11]
Let's keep this thread alive! I'll bet I can be there.
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Posted: 4/16/2018 2:29:46 PM EDT
[#12]
I'm sure I will be there.
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Posted: 4/16/2018 3:30:55 PM EDT
[#13]
Barring any really unforeseen circumstances, count me in!
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Posted: 4/16/2018 5:42:23 PM EDT
[#14]
Put me on the list.
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Posted: 4/16/2018 7:14:21 PM EDT
[#15]
Maybe
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Posted: 4/16/2018 7:40:25 PM EDT
[#16]
Whoa, got a thread tack!!!
  
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Posted: 4/16/2018 8:40:17 PM EDT
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Whoa, got a thread tack!!! 
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Posted: 4/17/2018 11:25:51 PM EDT
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Assuming I'm still above ground at that date, I'm planning on being there...
We really need a REALLY BIG turn out. If you don't mind me asking, why Jan 8th? It will be very cold outside then and there at the Capital. (I'm willing to bundle up and be outside) It might be better to do the gathering WHEN the leg is in session to make the point we are here in the Capital because we care. (this assumes we can avoid the "Crazy & Uncivil Unpleasantness" that led to panic buttons being installed in offices when some of the InfoWars - Open Carry people went a bit excitable and crowed shouting into some offices freaking out the staff... Has anyone considered contacting T.S.R.A. or N.R.A. to see if they can help get the word out and attendance up? I will say that our enemies are tight with their message and organization and we need to be better than them to win! Speaking of which, those Tide Pod eating Kooky Kids are having another official School Walk Outs out this Friday 4-20 to rally against "Gun Violence" and I'm sorry to say, I saw more kids screaming and hollering at one high school than I did with the Progun group from ALL over the state this past rally... We need to get the numbers to make the point that we are a VOTING force to be respected and our rights maintained. If history of late gives any lessons, it is that so called "Republican Politicians" will fold and sell us out if they think it is to their political career advantage... (Vermont & Florida!) If we go, we need to go BIG and LOUD to make the point that We are a somewhat SILENT Majority. We need to be seen and for the Politicians to SEE us as responsible voters who will influeance our friends and families to show up on every election day on our issues... BIGGER_HAMMER 
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Posted: 4/18/2018 12:06:41 AM EDT
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Put me on the list. 
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Posted: 4/18/2018 10:57:14 AM EDT
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Just for fun, today in history... hopefully it doesn't derail the intent of this thread. We are in the midst of the most important days ever for this country.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/On-April-18th-1775--/5-2102593/ |
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Posted: 4/18/2018 1:38:54 PM EDT
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@Lug1
I need help. I'm talking to a state Rep today, Briscoe Cain. I need more info on the 'no rifle' rules on capital grounds (DPS division 7) IIRC . He asked and said he would address this, "raise heck over it". I will be contacting another state rep Dennis Paul too. Thanks ETA: He initially asked if I had anything 'in writing' about this. I also mentioned the issue of no flag poles. |
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Posted: 4/18/2018 3:49:49 PM EDT
[#22]
Bishop & Lug1 - talk to the Capital Police - State Legislatures about the issue of TXDPS banning flagpoles.
Seriously screwed up when I can't properly wave a US and Texas flag without threat of arrest for a simple 3x5' flag on a wooden pole 4' long. When The US & Texas Flags are banned from possession by mere "little people" at the Capital, you know democracy is in trouble! |
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Posted: 4/18/2018 4:28:13 PM EDT
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@Lug1 I need help. I'm talking to a state Rep today, Briscoe Cain. I need more info on the 'no rifle' rules on capital grounds (DPS division 7) IIRC . He asked and said he would address this, "raise heck over it". I will be contacting another state rep Dennis Paul too. Thanks ETA: He initially asked if I had anything 'in writing' about this. I also mentioned the issue of no flag poles. @Bishop3 |
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Posted: 4/18/2018 6:04:18 PM EDT
[#24]
There were rules posted on the capitol website I think. I'll look and see if I can find them.
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Posted: 4/18/2018 6:15:03 PM EDT
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Bishop & Lug1 - talk to the Capital Police - State Legislatures about the issue of TXDPS banning flagpoles. Seriously screwed up when I can't properly wave a US and Texas flag without threat of arrest for a simple 3x5' flag on a wooden pole 4' long. When The US & Texas Flags are banned from possession by mere "little people" at the Capital, you know democracy is in trouble! I find that pretty stupid. I was there with Lug1 and ~300 or so other folks, with easily 85% of them having loaded pistols on their hips. But I can't carry a flagpole because it's an "...item manifestly designed, made, or adapted for the purpose of preparing a person to engage in physical combat..." 
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Posted: 4/18/2018 6:15:45 PM EDT
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There were rules posted on the capitol website I think. I'll look and see if I can find them. http://www.dps.texas.gov/director_staff/media_and_communications/pr/2018/0111a |
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Posted: 4/18/2018 6:30:40 PM EDT
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Flags are fine, it's just the flagpoles they don't want there. I find that pretty stupid. I was there with Lug1 and ~300 or so other folks, with easily 85% of them having loaded pistols on their hips. But I can't carry a flagpole because it's an "...item manifestly designed, made, or adapted for the purpose of preparing a person to engage in physical combat..." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bishop & Lug1 - talk to the Capital Police - State Legislatures about the issue of TXDPS banning flagpoles. Seriously screwed up when I can't properly wave a US and Texas flag without threat of arrest for a simple 3x5' flag on a wooden pole 4' long. When The US & Texas Flags are banned from possession by mere "little people" at the Capital, you know democracy is in trouble! I find that pretty stupid. I was there with Lug1 and ~300 or so other folks, with easily 85% of them having loaded pistols on their hips. But I can't carry a flagpole because it's an "...item manifestly designed, made, or adapted for the purpose of preparing a person to engage in physical combat..." I'm wanting something to corroborate the 'no rifle' (long guns) rule mentioned at the rally. I'm going to forward it to at least 2 state reps. Want to know 'where' that came from sooo we can address it. I'm staying in the loop this time and want to be more proactive. So staying abreast of any 2A activity. We have children and grandchildren, they must have the RTKBA. Ok thanks, anything else? I'm going to forward the link Gloftoe left for us when I can gather a little more information. |
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Posted: 4/18/2018 6:38:46 PM EDT
[#28]
@Gloftoe has got the right link.
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Posted: 4/18/2018 6:48:52 PM EDT
[#29]
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@Gloftoe has got the right link. "Any item manifestly designed, made, or adapted for the purpose of preparing a person to engage in physical combat may be prohibited, including but not limited to: - Firearms and other deadly weapons, except when authorized under License to Carry authority... " Does this mean handguns only, since there is no license requirement for carrying a rifle? I'm ok with and prefer concealed, BUT if I chose to carry a rifle. This is my right, and your right. The point is "... shall not be infringed." Anyhoo I'm talking to legislators one I'm acquainted with to see what can get done. I'm glad @Lug1 got the thread tack. |
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Posted: 4/18/2018 6:55:33 PM EDT
[#30]
That's my take on it. That's why the guy carrying the AR pistol was able to get away with it.
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Posted: 4/18/2018 7:16:46 PM EDT
[#31]
I'm speaking with my representative now (Briscoe Cain). His office is going to call DPS for request clarification, I sent the link Gloftoe left for us.
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Posted: 4/18/2018 8:20:30 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The first bullet is a general statement it seems. So where did we get the 'no rifles' rule? "Any item manifestly designed, made, or adapted for the purpose of preparing a person to engage in physical combat may be prohibited, including but not limited to: - Firearms and other deadly weapons, except when authorized under License to Carry authority... " Does this mean handguns only, since there is no license requirement for carrying a rifle? I'm ok with and prefer concealed, BUT if I chose to carry a rifle. This is my right, and your right. The point is "... shall not be infringed." Anyhoo I'm talking to legislators one I'm acquainted with to see what can get done. I'm glad @Lug1 got the thread tack. |
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Posted: 4/18/2018 8:31:26 PM EDT
[#33]
I'm going to contact Drew Darby.
My local state rep. Maybe the more inquiries made the better the outcome. |
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Posted: 4/18/2018 10:12:05 PM EDT
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I'm going to contact Drew Darby. My local state rep. Maybe the more inquiries made the better the outcome. |
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Posted: 4/19/2018 12:08:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/19/2018 6:28:49 PM EDT
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Flags are fine, it's just the flagpoles they don't want there. I find that pretty stupid. I was there with Lug1 and ~300 or so other folks, with easily 85% of them having loaded pistols on their hips. But I can't carry a flagpole because it's an "...item manifestly designed, made, or adapted for the purpose of preparing a person to engage in physical combat..." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bishop & Lug1 - talk to the Capital Police - State Legislatures about the issue of TXDPS banning flagpoles. Seriously screwed up when I can't properly wave a US and Texas flag without threat of arrest for a simple 3x5' flag on a wooden pole 4' long. When The US & Texas Flags are banned from possession by mere "little people" at the Capital, you know democracy is in trouble! I find that pretty stupid. I was there with Lug1 and ~300 or so other folks, with easily 85% of them having loaded pistols on their hips. But I can't carry a flagpole because it's an "...item manifestly designed, made, or adapted for the purpose of preparing a person to engage in physical combat..." TITLE 37 PUBLIC SAFETY AND CORRECTIONS PART 1 TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY CHAPTER 8 CAPITOL COMPLEX SUBCHAPTER A PROTECTION OF STATE BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS RULE §8.7 Prohibited Weapons (a) Firearms, explosive weapons, illegal knives, clubs, and knuckles, as defined in the Texas Penal Code, §46.01, and prohibited weapons as defined in the Texas Penal Code, §46.06, are not permitted in state buildings or on state grounds covered under this subchapter, except in the possession of: (1) a licensed peace officer; (2) as to a handgun or nightstick, a properly licensed private security officer while working under an approved department contract and the contract authorizes the use of an armed guard; or (3) a person who is licensed to carry a handgun, under Texas Government Code, Chapter 411, Subchapter H, provided that such a person may only carry a handgun in a place and under circumstances where not otherwise prohibited by law. (b) Violations of laws relating to weapons will be prosecuted under the applicable statute. Violations of this section which are not otherwise a violation of a particular statute, will be prosecuted under Texas Government Code, §411.065. After asking about this recieved info via email today from Peaceable Texans For Firearm Rights, Paul Velte, Gary Slider. |
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Posted: 4/19/2018 8:16:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Texas Administrative Code (TAC) is where the reg comes from. TITLE 37 PUBLIC SAFETY AND CORRECTIONS PART 1 TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY CHAPTER 8 CAPITOL COMPLEX SUBCHAPTER A PROTECTION OF STATE BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS RULE 8.7 Prohibited Weapons (a) Firearms, explosive weapons, illegal knives, clubs, and knuckles, as defined in the Texas Penal Code, 46.01, and prohibited weapons as defined in the Texas Penal Code, 46.06, are not permitted in state buildings or on state grounds covered under this subchapter, except in the possession of: (1) a licensed peace officer; (2) as to a handgun or nightstick, a properly licensed private security officer while working under an approved department contract and the contract authorizes the use of an armed guard; or (3) a person who is licensed to carry a handgun, under Texas Government Code, Chapter 411, Subchapter H, provided that such a person may only carry a handgun in a place and under circumstances where not otherwise prohibited by law. (b) Violations of laws relating to weapons will be prosecuted under the applicable statute. Violations of this section which are not otherwise a violation of a particular statute, will be prosecuted under Texas Government Code, 411.065. After asking about this recieved info via email today from Peaceable Texans For Firearm Rights, Paul Velte, Gary Slider. I got that email today wondered if I'm reading it wrong. |
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Posted: 4/19/2018 8:49:42 PM EDT
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So if you have a handgun license you can carry a flagpole? I got that email today wondered if I'm reading it wrong. Prohibited Weapons (a)(3) a person who is licensed to carry a handgun, under Texas Government Code, Chapter 411, Subchapter H, provided that such a person may only carry a handgun in a place and under circumstances where not otherwise prohibited by law. I can't make out where flag poles are indicated a prohibited weapon, but it seems here there is an exclusion for rifles. Maybe the rep will come through with the request for clarification. |
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Posted: 5/2/2018 4:45:24 PM EDT
[#39]
We aren't done here. Busy last couple weeks. Going to start calling state elected officials after NRAAM.
Just saying this isn't clap and stomp and fade away. |
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Posted: 5/13/2018 8:55:15 PM EDT
[#40]
I'll put that date in my calendar and hope to make it, I'm definitely looking to get much more active politically.
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Posted: 5/24/2018 4:35:34 PM EDT
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I'll put that date in my calendar and hope to make it, I'm definitely looking to get much more active politically. I'll put it in my calendar, OP. |
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Posted: 6/14/2018 11:13:31 AM EDT
[#42]
I'll schedule vacation time for it as soon as I come back from vacation
unlikely I'll be living in Austin again by then but possible. |
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Posted: 8/4/2018 7:35:19 PM EDT
[#43]
I am late to the party. Been a tough year but things are getting back to normal now.
I'd like to be there and will plan on it. |
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Posted: 8/6/2018 10:53:53 AM EDT
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I am late to the party. Been a tough year but things are getting back to normal now. I'd like to be there and will plan on it. I have not given this thread the respect it has needed so far. Getting back on track. Going to be calling some Reps. Getting a plan. Anybody do flyer magic? Can somebody come up with something to post on facebook and other forums and email? Something we can alter we get some more info from state politicians or gun advocates who might attend and speak? I have previously emailed a lot of these people who have never gotten back with me. That is my fault because I have not pursued it yet. Pursuit will start today. @DonofKalifornia @Gloftoe @TKLOL @Charliedontsurf @1fromtx @villageidiot @bishop3 @biggerhammer @rbread @FP2000H @bollox @HAMOCK |
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Posted: 8/6/2018 12:21:44 PM EDT
[#45]
Tag - for updates!
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Posted: 8/6/2018 12:46:47 PM EDT
[#46]
I assume plan is to meet up and then go visit our individual reps offices and ask them to support pro gun legislation?
Might be helpful if we coordinated who lived where and plan on meeting up with other constituents from our area to visit offices. 5 people willing to travel to Austin and express support to a congress critter in person usually means more than 100 phone calls or 300 people rallying outside. |
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Posted: 8/6/2018 3:45:35 PM EDT
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My personal thought is the agenda should be
1. Have the house install a REAL 2A friendly speaker now that fake news Strauss is gone. 2. That speaker should support Constitutional Carry I think this is a good topic for the rally. I am trying to make contacts and get speakers for the rally. Beside a couple reps I have tried to contact CJ Grisham, and pro 2nd amendment attorney or two. Maybe an arfcommer from another state who does a lot of lobbying, waiting to hear back. |
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Posted: 8/6/2018 8:39:55 PM EDT
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CJ Grisham messaged me back through Facebook. They do a 2nd amendment day a few weeks after this is planned. He didn't seem to have any interest.
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Posted: 8/6/2018 9:06:54 PM EDT
[#49]
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CJ Grisham messaged me back through Facebook. They do a 2nd amendment day a few weeks after this is planned. He didn't seem to have any interest. Do you think TSRA would have an interest? (I'm guessing no, but just brainstorming here). |
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Posted: 8/10/2018 8:21:20 AM EDT
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CJ Grisham wrote me back on facebook. He suggested we combine and join his event a few weeks later.
I invited him to join ours as we were planning for the legislative open. I am awaiting his response. |
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