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Posted: 2/11/2020 12:04:04 PM EDT
S-4849, Relates to allowing the possession and sale of electronic dart guns and electronic stun guns for self-defense, now has a companion A-9784.
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lol. law makes it just like a gun. cant carry it,  only allowed on property you own or lease or a business you own lease or work at..
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Until SCOTUS says that the 2nd amendment applies outside the home (maybe due to that whole "bear arms" part??)...any state can make it illegal to take a gun outside your home.
Link Posted: 2/12/2020 9:55:42 AM EDT
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Didn’t NOLO just win a Federal lawsuit last year about tasers? Massachusetts maybe? And the ruling said something along the lines of “they can be carried by any lawful person”?

Or am I wrong?

ETA: not that NY cares about case law and Federal rulings...
Link Posted: 2/12/2020 10:18:13 AM EDT
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This bill is a result of a 2019 lawsuit challenging possession of stun guns.
Link Posted: 2/12/2020 10:33:08 AM EDT
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Well that was short lived
Link Posted: 2/12/2020 12:36:28 PM EDT
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Is that correct? I didn’t see that in the except I read.
Link Posted: 2/12/2020 12:40:14 PM EDT
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Is that correct? I didn't see that in the except I read.
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Is that correct? I didn't see that in the except I read.
17.  Possession in accordance with the provisions of this paragraph of
4  an electronic dart gun or an electronic stun gun,  as  those  terms  are

5  defined  in  section  265.00  of  this  article, for the protection of a

6  person or property on real estate that such person owns  or  leases,  or

7  where  such  person resides, or within the confines of a business estab-

8  lishment that such person owns or leases, and  use  of  such  electronic

9  dart  gun or electronic stun gun under circumstances which would justify

10  the use of physical force pursuant to article thirty-five of this  chap-

11  ter.
Link Posted: 2/12/2020 1:37:27 PM EDT
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Thanks. This makes sense to me now.

Hopefully it does set up a court challenge.
Link Posted: 2/12/2020 7:09:37 PM EDT
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Thanks. This makes sense to me now.

Hopefully it does set up a court challenge.
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And in 5 or 6 more years we'll be all set to carry them with a $100/yr permit and a rectal exam prior to
purchase
Link Posted: 2/13/2020 9:51:04 AM EDT
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And in 5 or 6 more years we'll be all set to carry them with a $100/yr permit and a rectal exam prior to
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And in 5 or 6 more years we'll be all set to carry them with a $100/yr permit and a rectal exam prior to
purchase
Pretty much. In fact, I could see them simply making a NYS Pistol License a requirement to possess a stun gun. That would eliminate carrying on Long Island
Link Posted: 2/13/2020 10:00:40 PM EDT
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Pretty much. In fact, I could see them simply making a NYS Pistol License a requirement to possess a stun gun. That would eliminate carrying on Long Island
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Well it would actually make it less illegal, at least you could carry against the restrictions and not go to jail
Link Posted: 2/14/2020 8:56:44 AM EDT
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Well it would actually make it less illegal, at least you could carry against the restrictions and not go to jail
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Well it would actually make it less illegal, at least you could carry against the restrictions and not go to jail
Liberal activist judges are just going to start issuing premise only permits soon. So that will make carrying a felony.
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Thanks! I will watch it.
If they're brazen enough to regulate stun guns the same as pistols in NY, how does that bode for our pistol permit scheme if you happen to ruin their day with stun gun rulings you've been racking up?
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Well at least maybe my grandchildren will be able to protect themselves
Link Posted: 2/18/2020 11:01:29 AM EDT
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If there is still a country left after the Progressives have finished remodeling the state and country their way. Between the Bail Reform law and the Democrat Socialists plans for us, I have less and less confidence this will be a place anybody will want to, or be able to, live unless they are an illegal immigrant or career criminal.
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If there is still a country left after the Progressives have finished remodeling the state and country their way. Between the Bail Reform law and the Democrat Socialists plans for us, I have less and less confidence this will be a place anybody will want to, or be able to, live unless they are an illegal immigrant or career criminal.
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Agreed
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