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Posted: 3/18/2019 10:52:41 AM EDT
Entertaining relocating to somewhere warmer!!  -35 finished off my want to stay here in Montana.  My wife and I are rural Central Montana natives with two teenage kids.  What are we in for?  The wife and I lived in Phoenix for 2 years and Denver area for 10 so bigger city issues aren't new to us.  My son, 15 and daughter, 13 on the other hand, have not lived any where else.  Our home town county has 3500 residents and I am nervous!!

Any advice on areas to stay away from or what schools are better would be greatly appreciated!!
Link Posted: 3/18/2019 2:36:52 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/18/2019 2:55:35 PM EDT
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I would find Tampa pretty livable.  If seeking a small-town feel, check out Thonotosassa.
Link Posted: 3/18/2019 3:50:14 PM EDT
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Entertaining relocating to somewhere warmer!!  -35 finished off my want to stay here in Montana.  My wife and I are rural Central Montana natives with two teenage kids.  What are we in for?  The wife and I lived in Phoenix for 2 years and Denver area for 10 so bigger city issues aren't new to us.  My son, 15 and daughter, 13 on the other hand, have not lived any where else.  Our home town county has 3500 residents and I am nervous!!

Any advice on areas to stay away from or what schools are better would be greatly appreciated!!
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I've been on the Space Coast for 6 years, leaving in July. What areas are you looking at? Are those areas employment driven/school driven?
Link Posted: 3/18/2019 7:29:46 PM EDT
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I'd consider coming for a vacation in the summer months before I just up and relocated. You say you want warmer. Temps in the 90s with 90% humidity every day for months are what you'll get. I'm a lifelong Floridian and I'm just as sick of the heat as you are of the cold.
Link Posted: 3/18/2019 7:48:32 PM EDT
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My kids are going to stay with my brother in Cocoa Beach next month and have a run through space camp.  He and his wife are great people but have little to no experience with kids/teenagers.   They have been there just over a year.

We spent some time in the keys and on Bimini before we had kids.

From what Google maps shows Rockledge looks semirural.   But I also see lots of yards with junk piled up.   One of the job options was near a military base in the pan handle and crime stats were an eye opener!  Rape cases were 120 percent of the national norm.  That alone scared me off!!
Link Posted: 3/18/2019 7:50:17 PM EDT
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Also to add my wife has RA.  Rumatoid arthritis.  The cold kills her!
Link Posted: 3/18/2019 8:20:11 PM EDT
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Florida is on a severe downward spiral regarding immigration, 2nd A rights, etc...
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Shhhh… as fast as the liberals are moving here from the Northeast, we need more conservative voters to move here, lots of them.

OP, Florida is the greatest place in the entire world. It is absolutely wonderful, just like it looks in Disney commercials. Every single person here really has a perma-smile like that, even the old people who should look grumpy. Bring all of your conservative neighbors and see if you can't pick up a few more conservatives along the way.
Link Posted: 3/18/2019 8:31:16 PM EDT
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My kids are going to stay with my brother in Cocoa Beach next month and have a run through space camp.  He and his wife are great people but have little to no experience with kids/teenagers.   They have been there just over a year.

We spent some time in the keys and on Bimini before we had kids.

From what Google maps shows Rockledge looks semirural.   But I also see lots of yards with junk piled up.   One of the job options was near a military base in the pan handle and crime stats were an eye opener!  Rape cases were 120 percent of the national norm.  That alone scared me off!!
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As a midwest transplant that has lived both in the panhandle and the Space Coast, I can tell you I'll take the panhandle any day. Not sure where exactly you're getting those stats, but it's not like things are any better here between Mims and Melbourne (look up crime statistics for Cocoa). I honestly felt safer up in panhandle, more rednecks, more conservative, and less east coast transplants and crackheads.
Link Posted: 3/18/2019 9:42:16 PM EDT
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Entertaining relocating to somewhere warmer!!  -35 finished off my want to stay here in Montana.  My wife and I are rural Central Montana natives with two teenage kids.  What are we in for?  The wife and I lived in Phoenix for 2 years and Denver area for 10 so bigger city issues aren't new to us.  My son, 15 and daughter, 13 on the other hand, have not lived any where else.  Our home town county has 3500 residents and I am nervous!!

Any advice on areas to stay away from or what schools are better would be greatly appreciated!!
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I left New Hampshire and tried Florida for a couple of years because we always liked it when we visited in the Winter.  Florida will be a culture shock for you.  I know it was for me so I moved back to New Hampshire.  Florida has zoning, HOAs, licenses and permits for pretty much anything related to home improvement and I found it very expensive; especially car and home insurance.  I was in southern Palm Beach County.  When I hated it the wife (who is a Florida native, I believe she would be called a Florida cracker) wanted to try further north, Melbourne, Cocoa, Merritt Island.  I said no, lets go back to New Hampshire actually I insisted and she followed.  We still visit in the winter and enjoy it.  But living there full time was just to much of a drastic change from NH for the reasons I just listed.

Also, for a state that is called the gunshine state, there are very few really decent outdoor ranges longer than 100 yards.  I did try the Palm Beach Sheriff Range a few times but that is only 300 yards and that is only open to the public a few days a year and they don't allow silhouettte targets and no handguns.   I think the 100 yard portion is open more often.
Link Posted: 3/18/2019 10:59:21 PM EDT
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Check out Mims in north Brevard, north of Titusville. Very proud country attitude there, trucks, hunters, rednecks, nice country living.

In the south, Grant/ Valkeria, very rural,

Rockledge is crowded and shares a border with shithole Cocoa.

Avoid Port 0’John errr Port St. John, Palm Bay like the plague.

Merritt Island is mostly urban. Cocoa sucks.

Titusville is old, and not country.

Hope you love heat and humidity.
Link Posted: 3/19/2019 12:46:48 PM EDT
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You'll love the humidify in the summer, especially since you're coming from out west.
Link Posted: 3/19/2019 3:07:34 PM EDT
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We've been up and down that east coast.   Nice to visit.  From west central up,, is more how Florida once was .
Link Posted: 3/19/2019 5:29:17 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/20/2019 12:19:01 AM EDT
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I have friends who live in Viera. Seems nice, between Cocoa and Titusville. I live about 45mins north, in south east Volusia. I'd live in Titusville before Rockledge.
Link Posted: 3/20/2019 11:23:18 AM EDT
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Check out Mims in north Brevard, north of Titusville. Very proud country attitude there, trucks, hunters, rednecks, nice country living.

In the south, Grant/ Valkeria, very rural,

Rockledge is crowded and shares a border with shithole Cocoa.

Avoid Port 0’John errr Port St. John, Palm Bay like the plague.

Merritt Island is mostly urban. Cocoa sucks.

Titusville is old, and not country.

Hope you love heat and humidity.
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All this, except to add Canaveral Groves has large lots and is rural. Port St. John (where I live) used to be a good place, but has dramatically changed since the damned high school was built, but given the ages of your kids, that may be a positive factor for you.
Link Posted: 3/20/2019 12:07:30 PM EDT
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I'm a Florida native... with that said, I'm 57 now and really getting tired of the heat and humidity. The humidity is starting to really make me want to leave Florida. I can't in reality, but I dream about it.

I'm fairly settled here in central FL for now but would love to relocate up to the panhandle as already mentioned. It's still hot but to me it seems the humidity is slightly less and the weather gets colder for sure, which is a nice break after months of sweltering heat. Can you imagine 80 degrees at 7am? Like the cold, the heat and humidity gets old.

Crowded... Ocala and south is just plain crowded. Up north seems a little more spread out. Our interstates in central and south Florida stay crowded more often than not. There's just A LOT of people crammed into the central and southern part of the state it seems.

But... we do need more like-minded folks... so I say welcome.
Link Posted: 3/20/2019 1:33:45 PM EDT
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Crazy cause Montana is the first place I'm looking in 10yrs when I'm done with my dept. Born and raise in FL and it is no longer the state it was and why it was great. I fully suspect it will be a liberal cesspool like CA in a handful of years. We barely beat out a socialist for Gov by less than 1%. Now that the next election 1.4 mil felons will get a vote I firmly believe most of all counties and the state will go full dem/libtard in all offices. I would not suggest to anyone to move here.
Link Posted: 3/20/2019 1:40:18 PM EDT
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I left New Hampshire and tried Florida for a couple of years because we always liked it when we visited in the Winter.  Florida will be a culture shock for you.  I know it was for me so I moved back to New Hampshire.  Florida has zoning, HOAs, licenses and permits for pretty much anything related to home improvement and I found it very expensive; especially car and home insurance.  I was in southern Palm Beach County.  When I hated it the wife (who is a Florida native, I believe she would be called a Florida cracker) wanted to try further north, Melbourne, Cocoa, Merritt Island.  I said no, lets go back to New Hampshire actually I insisted and she followed.  We still visit in the winter and enjoy it.  But living there full time was just to much of a drastic change from NH for the reasons I just listed.

Also, for a state that is called the gunshine state, there are very few really decent outdoor ranges longer than 100 yards.  I did try the Palm Beach Sheriff Range a few times but that is only 300 yards and that is only open to the public a few days a year and they don't allow silhouettte targets and no handguns.   I think the 100 yard portion is open more often.
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the gunshine status is being lost every day with ever northern who moves down yet still votes like a liberal. They pack the mayors and commissions with liberals (especially in Palm beach) and they in turn zone out gun ranges and even work to close long standing ranges. It used to be legal to shoot in your own backyard until about a few years ago. People come here because we were so much better then where they came from but then they work hard to make us like what they were used to.
Link Posted: 3/20/2019 7:34:38 PM EDT
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Rural West coast is where I'm at and it's more like real life. Not nearly the cost of the lower West coast or most of the East coast. Most anything port Richey or lower is pricier and more and more on the trendy side of everything.
Link Posted: 3/22/2019 2:52:03 PM EDT
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After reading all your different angles I still think us moving to the area is a good choice.  My primary business has been on the downward spiral since the price of oil tanked several years ago and my secondary job has me all over the state in horrible weather conditions through the winter, natural gas compressor station mechanic.  We need a major change in our lives.

Working on getting hired with a large tech company taking care of remote backup generators and my wife having health issues that are compounded by cold weather are the biggest motivation.  Finding the safest area/schools is my biggest fear.  I can acclimate and work wierd hours to beat the heat.  The metal buildings the compressors are joused in suck with no shade and 100 degree days.  We work at night during a big part of the summer.
Link Posted: 3/22/2019 2:53:41 PM EDT
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After reading all your different angles I still think us moving to the area is a good choice.  My primary business has been on the downward spiral since the price of oil tanked several years ago and my secondary job has me all over the state in horrible weather conditions through the winter, natural gas compressor station mechanic.  We need a major change in our lives.

Working on getting hired with a large tech company taking care of remote backup generators and my wife having health issues that are compounded by cold weather are the biggest motivation.  Finding the safest area/schools is my biggest fear.  I can acclimate and work wierd hours to beat the heat.  The metal buildings the compressors are joused in suck with no shade and 100 degree days.  We work at night during a big part of the summer.
Link Posted: 3/23/2019 11:18:14 AM EDT
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The old people in Brevard would drive me nuts. Also, none of those areas you mentioned are "big city." They are all pretty rural with a few shopping centers here and there. It's a nice mix.
Link Posted: 3/23/2019 11:38:26 AM EDT
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If you want the best bang for your buck you will need to go to places you've never heard of. FL properties are some of the highest in the nation like CA. So if you have heard of that area already then prices will he higher just about automatically. If I was staying in the state i would be looking some where on the gulf side on the northern end of the state.
Link Posted: 3/23/2019 2:14:56 PM EDT
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The old people in Brevard would drive me nuts. Also, none of those areas you mentioned are "big city." They are all pretty rural with a few shopping centers here and there. It's a nice mix.
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This. I can literally walk into any store or restaurant from 11am to 6pm and there is no joking 90%+ old people. I'm not talking 50s or 60s, I'm talking 70+. The kind of people you start to wonder how the hell they even got there in the first place until you realize they're out here driving too.

Man, Montana to Space Coast will be a HUGE shock. It will be nothing like Denver or Phoenix and I've lived in or been to both. Think of it as being 3x worse. You have a mixture of rising crime, shit property, some of the worst drivers in the nation, immigration like you wouldn't believe, and a local / state government and local police that don't give two shits.

On the education side, my wife is a teacher here, and the education is going downhill each year. Schools that used to be highly rated are taking a nosedive, and the children that are coming into these schools are woefully unprepared with parents who care little about them. Think of it as the schools being flooded with trash.

Seriously, look at the panhandle before here. Anywhere on the east coast is an absolute disaster. I was born here and had excursions outside the state here and there, but have been back for 10 years now. It's not what it once was and "development" and migration here are destroying the state. If anything you'll be screaming to go back to Montana within 5 years.
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 7:08:44 PM EDT
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I live in the NE corner of FL, Fernandina Beach (on Amelia Island) and it’s hot in the summer, no hotter than where I came from, and seasonal and somewhat cold in the winter.  We have great beaches good food and nice downtown.  It’s not a bad ride to Jacksonville or St Johns for shopping.  Yulee HS and a Fernandina Beach HS are quite Godfrey’s what I can tell.   My youngest is finishing his freshman year at FSU.
Link Posted: 3/25/2019 4:17:02 AM EDT
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Having lived all over and just moved back to Florida from Butte, MT myself... I'll warn you... it's HUMID here compared to Montana or Arizona!  
Most Montana people I know head south to Arizona so they stay within that same type of climate.  
Myself, I'll be heading back to Montana to see my son this summer, then back down to Arizona for the long winter.
It rains too much in Florida as well for my taste, I prefer a dryer climate, my old bones definitely can tell the difference.

BE FOREWARNED... FLORIDA IS A CONCEALED ONLY CARRY STATE, NOT LIKE MONTANA WHERE YOU CAN OPEN CARRY AS MOST PEOPLE DO EVERYWHERE.

Good luck on your move!
Link Posted: 3/26/2019 10:05:30 PM EDT
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This. I can literally walk into any store or restaurant from 11am to 6pm and there is no joking 90%+ old people. I'm not talking 50s or 60s, I'm talking 70+. The kind of people you start to wonder how the hell they even got there in the first place until you realize they're out here driving too.

Man, Montana to Space Coast will be a HUGE shock. It will be nothing like Denver or Phoenix and I've lived in or been to both. Think of it as being 3x worse. You have a mixture of rising crime, shit property, some of the worst drivers in the nation, immigration like you wouldn't believe, and a local / state government and local police that don't give two shits.

On the education side, my wife is a teacher here, and the education is going downhill each year. Schools that used to be highly rated are taking a nosedive, and the children that are coming into these schools are woefully unprepared with parents who care little about them. Think of it as the schools being flooded with trash.

Seriously, look at the panhandle before here. Anywhere on the east coast is an absolute disaster. I was born here and had excursions outside the state here and there, but have been back for 10 years now. It's not what it once was and "development" and migration here are destroying the state. If anything you'll be screaming to go back to Montana within 5 years.
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Well captured, especially the old folks part.
Link Posted: 3/31/2019 2:07:25 AM EDT
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Good luck to you OP.  This montanan is looking to relocate to florida also.  In fact I will be there in just a few weeks to check out some potential areas.  The -40 and blowing snow stacking up to several feet has done me in.  I have a great job here in Montana and I will miss Montana but the 7 month of winter and the blowing snow is too much.    I figure the heat of the summer down there cant be any worse than the coldest months up here.  Up here we stay inside as much as possible to stay warm , except when plowing snow and coyote hunting, but  down there during the hottest part of the summer we will stay inside just the same and soak up the a/c.
Link Posted: 3/31/2019 5:37:03 AM EDT
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Entertaining relocating to somewhere warmer!!  -35 finished off my want to stay here in Montana.  My wife and I are rural Central Montana natives with two teenage kids.  What are we in for?  The wife and I lived in Phoenix for 2 years and Denver area for 10 so bigger city issues aren't new to us.  My son, 15 and daughter, 13 on the other hand, have not lived any where else.  Our home town county has 3500 residents and I am nervous!!

Any advice on areas to stay away from or what schools are better would be greatly appreciated!!
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Hey there, Welcome. I lived in South West Montana for a few years, I'm down in South Florida but i wouldn't be too nervous! I would guess you have an Academy Sports near you on the Space Coast?
Link Posted: 3/31/2019 8:33:46 PM EDT
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I would find Tampa pretty livable.  If seeking a small-town feel, check out Thonotosassa.
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Or Plant City. It's convenient to both Tampa and Lakeland (and the Tenoroc range).
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