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Posted: 2/19/2020 7:47:51 AM EDT
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They could always adopt Long Island style licensing and let the PD do it. Then nobody gets one
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Posted: 2/19/2020 2:20:57 PM EDT
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They could always adopt Long Island style licensing and let the PD do it. Then nobody gets one |
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Posted: 2/19/2020 2:30:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They are suing judges for restricting permits. I see it as a positive development. "Sue Everybody!" - Sol Rosenberg |
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Posted: 2/19/2020 2:31:29 PM EDT
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They'll probably give the Jews in the lawsuits full carry and go back to denying everyone
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Posted: 2/19/2020 4:06:46 PM EDT
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Much like Tim Whatley... Ill be converting soon. It not just for the jokes Jerry...
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Posted: 2/19/2020 4:07:45 PM EDT
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I know a young woman, late 20s, who was denied full carry a few months ago in Rockland...Liberal judge was a total asshole.
I told her to carry anyway. The dream would be that this case is teed up for a decision right after SCOTUS declares the 2nd applicable outside the home with strict scrutiny...but that is far fetched. |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 1:09:34 PM EDT
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Are any organizations supporting the legal effort?
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Posted: 2/20/2020 1:12:06 PM EDT
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Hell yeah....you'd think NYSRPA would wanna get involved
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Posted: 2/20/2020 8:17:49 PM EDT
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Hell yeah....you'd think NYSRPA would wanna get involved You do know how NYSRPA gets involved when other groups and individuals try to fight against gun control right? |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 8:36:30 AM EDT
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I’d love to see the Second Amendment Foundation assist in that case. Seems like something they would be good at.
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Posted: 2/21/2020 1:32:31 PM EDT
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I'd love to see the Second Amendment Foundation assist in that case. Seems like something they would be good at. Meanwhile, a constituency (Orthodox Jews) that can absolutely guarantee a 100% vote for a politician as directed by a Grand Rebbe, perhaps on the order of 90,000 votes based on recent statistics, is suddenly making noises about wanting to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights that New York, for decades, has suppressed. So, what will the governor do? If he puts pressure on the judges to allow the Orthodox to carry, he opens up the door to allowing everyone else to carry OR facing even more lawsuits over equal protection. This will be interesting to watch. It was interesting to see my former public library on NY-59 (Finkelstein) in the news this week 
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Posted: 2/21/2020 4:17:16 PM EDT
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Are any organizations supporting the legal effort? https://www.2anys.com/2020/02/2nd-amendment-advocates-announce-lawsuit-against-rockland-county-ny-judges/ It's not just the Jews, but it's nice to have the pro-2a part of the local Jewish community onboard. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 7:38:58 PM EDT
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I find it all very amusing. Cuomo hates guns and would be happy to outlaw possession of anything that goes "bang" by everyone not connected with the government (or rich like the few CCW holders in New York City) if he could figure out a way to do it with the blessing of the courts. Meanwhile, a constituency (Orthodox Jews) that can absolutely guarantee a 100% vote for a politician as directed by a Grand Rebbe, perhaps on the order of 90,000 votes based on recent statistics, is suddenly making noises about wanting to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights that New York, for decades, has suppressed. So, what will the governor do? If he puts pressure on the judges to allow the Orthodox to carry, he opens up the door to allowing everyone else to carry OR facing even more lawsuits over equal protection. This will be interesting to watch. It was interesting to see my former public library on NY-59 (Finkelstein) in the news this week |
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Posted: 2/22/2020 12:26:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. 2ANYS. Yeah they're new kinds on the block, but it's not like the old kids have done much. We'll see. https://www.2anys.com/2020/02/2nd-amendment-advocates-announce-lawsuit-against-rockland-county-ny-judges/ It's not just the Jews, but it's nice to have the pro-2a part of the local Jewish community onboard. |
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Posted: 2/22/2020 1:28:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who are these people? Never heard of them and their website is not full of information. In fact the one video about the pistol permits looks like a terrible, cheaply made infomercial. |
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Posted: 2/22/2020 4:34:12 PM EDT
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Meanwhile, a constituency (Orthodox Jews) that can absolutely guarantee a 100% vote for a politician as directed by a Grand Rebbe, perhaps on the order of 90,000 votes based on recent statistics, is suddenly making noises about wanting to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights that New York, for decades, has suppressed. So, what will the governor do? If he puts pressure on the judges to allow the Orthodox to carry, he opens up the door to allowing everyone else to carry OR facing even more lawsuits over equal protection. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 11:40:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.reddit.com/r/NYguns/comments/ew5w7i/to_my_fellow_new_yorkers_we_have_started_a_new/ |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 12:46:17 PM EDT
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Dear Leader does not need, let alone care about the 90k votes the Grand Rebbie can deliver. His margin of victory was over one million votes in 2018. On the other hand, local politicians and county judges should take notice and should be made to fear that large of a voting block. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Meanwhile, a constituency (Orthodox Jews) that can absolutely guarantee a 100% vote for a politician as directed by a Grand Rebbe, perhaps on the order of 90,000 votes based on recent statistics, is suddenly making noises about wanting to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights that New York, for decades, has suppressed. So, what will the governor do? If he puts pressure on the judges to allow the Orthodox to carry, he opens up the door to allowing everyone else to carry OR facing even more lawsuits over equal protection. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 12:49:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do we know anything about these guys other than what's posted here? I find it a little odd they break the news on reddit and not through some other 2A channel but I'm not a reddit person either They are legitimate. |
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Posted: 2/26/2020 8:04:52 AM EDT
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They've always been able to carry, see: Shomrim Patrol- last decade it just cost $16k and the right people. Now they they've closed down the corruption at 1PP (allegedly) I guess they are looking for other solutions. 
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Posted: 2/26/2020 12:31:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWTF is that
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Posted: 2/27/2020 7:13:59 AM EDT
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WTF is that Quote HistoryQuoted:
https://twitter.com/CWSPshmira |
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Posted: 2/27/2020 11:04:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote Historyhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatzalah |
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Posted: 2/27/2020 11:22:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryCan't blame them for wanting to take care of their communities, but it's frustrating to see any group officially empowered to do things others are forbidden from/would be arrested for just because of corrupt politics.
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Posted: 2/27/2020 10:19:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryAre these people armed or they're like Jewish auxiliary?
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Posted: 2/27/2020 11:27:01 PM EDT
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Can't blame them for wanting to take care of their communities, but it's frustrating to see any group officially empowered to do things others are forbidden from/would be arrested for just because of corrupt politics. |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 1:14:05 AM EDT
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make your own shmira with blackjack and hookers?
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Posted: 2/28/2020 6:00:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are these people armed or they're like Jewish auxiliary? I would venture to say that some of them have full carry (or at least did up until a few years ago) but it's not an armed service officially AFAIK. Their approach is kind of the surround and drown and kick the shit out of purse snatchers and the like. Which is righteous, a bit comical, but fairly effective. |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 6:23:53 PM EDT
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Their approach is kind of the surround and drown and kick the shit out of purse snatchers and the like. Which is righteous, a bit comical, but fairly effective. I tried searching for the video but the returns on "brooklyn cyclist accident" returns hundreds of hits, with many being news stories of fatalities. Not going to find it again any time soon. |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 6:57:51 PM EDT
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They could always adopt Long Island style licensing and let the PD do it. Then nobody gets one 
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Posted: 2/28/2020 7:01:15 PM EDT
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They'll probably give the Jews in the lawsuits full carry and go back to denying everyone The NYSRPA v. NYC Case addresses this very thing: The arbitrary issuances of Licenses based on the whims of Clerks.
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Posted: 2/28/2020 7:07:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hahahahaha! You do know how NYSRPA gets involved when other groups and individuals try to fight against gun control right? You'd be amazed at the number of calls every week from people that fucked up and want NYSRPA and/or the NRA to help them: first question: Are you a Member? that "no" answer end the Party before it ever begins. Lots of the members here on arfcom have been around for a decade or more and are not fools, however there are many that talk a lot of shit about things they really know not of.
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Posted: 2/28/2020 9:32:37 PM EDT
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That's what seems to happen with Licenses applications: Somebody starts making a racket with the Sheriff's Dept. not getting the job done and "magically" their Licenses is approved and they go on their happy and fuck everybody else that didn't get theirs. The NYSRPA v. NYC Case addresses this very thing: The arbitrary issuances of Licenses based on the whims of Clerks. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They'll probably give the Jews in the lawsuits full carry and go back to denying everyone The NYSRPA v. NYC Case addresses this very thing: The arbitrary issuances of Licenses based on the whims of Clerks. |
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Posted: 2/29/2020 3:32:24 PM EDT
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didnt a western ny judge get sued over this exact issue and lost and now has to issue unrestricted permits?
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Posted: 2/29/2020 7:43:36 PM EDT
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didnt a western ny judge get sued over this exact issue and lost and now has to issue unrestricted permits? |
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Posted: 2/29/2020 8:45:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You'd be amazed at the number of calls every week from people that fucked up and want NYSRPA and/or the NRA to help them: first question: Are you a Member? that "no" answer end the Party before it ever begins. |
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Posted: 3/1/2020 6:18:37 PM EDT
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Personally I think this is a rumor. If it were true why hasn't NRA\SAF\NYSERPA used the case against any court that still issues restricted licenses? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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didnt a western ny judge get sued over this exact issue and lost and now has to issue unrestricted permits? |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 5:50:22 PM EDT
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Im not sure its totally bunk... seeing I was one that had one of them PP and was subject to more freedom. Ill look into it more. I believe before the lawsuit carried on, said judge retired and was replaced with more of a judge that obeys the law. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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didnt a western ny judge get sued over this exact issue and lost and now has to issue unrestricted permits? |
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