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Posted: 8/16/2022 7:19:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you live your entire life in fantasy land, or is it limited to imagining a world without taxes and the ATF? I live my life with the same level of intellectual integrity and philosophical purity as our founding Fathers. You get what you accept. Only accept what is right |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 8:19:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you live your entire life in fantasy land, or is it limited to imagining a world without taxes and the ATF? Do you live your entire life in fantasy land, or is it limited to imagining a world with accountable politicians that don't piss our money away while getting rich? |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 8:33:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I live my life with the same level of intellectual integrity and philosophical purity as our founding Fathers. You get what you accept. Only accept what is right Quote HistoryQuoted: I live my life with the same level of intellectual integrity and philosophical purity as our founding Fathers. You get what you accept. Only accept what is right Got it. Fantasy. Quoted: Do you live your entire life in fantasy land, or is it limited to imagining a world with accountable politicians that don't piss our money away while getting rich? Quite the contrary. |
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Posted: 8/19/2022 3:27:00 PM EDT
[#4]
No personal attacks. CoC #6. 67Firebird
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Posted: 8/19/2022 3:52:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No personal attacks. CoC #6. 67Firebird That's a bit harsh. A simple correction of a misunderstanding would have probably been sufficient. |
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Posted: 8/19/2022 5:09:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No personal attacks. CoC #6. 67Firebird Well, now we lost a useful piece of information. |
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Posted: 8/22/2022 10:32:16 AM EDT
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I don't partake in weed but let freedom ring vote yes and keep the tax money in MO.
That being said the Black market for weed isn't going away either. Driving impaired isn't going to skyrocket just like constitutional carry didn't increased shootings. |
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Posted: 8/23/2022 9:15:25 AM EDT
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Things are going to get interesting. There has been a lawsuit filed to remove recreational marijuana from the ballot.
https://www.komu.com/news/elections/lawsuit-filed-to-knock-recreational-pot-off-missouri-ballot/article_d4e39e80-712f-5929-8dca-0fdfa1b67003.html JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. (AP) An anti-drug group on Monday announced support for a lawsuit to take a recreational marijuana legalization proposal off Missouri's November ballot. Jefferson City resident Joy Sweeney filed the lawsuit Friday with support from the national anti-drug group Protect Our Kids. The suit alleged that marijuana supporters didn't gather enough valid voter signatures to put the proposal to a vote. The lawsuit also claimed the ballot measure deals with too many policies in violation of the state constitution. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 7:02:29 AM EDT
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I'm pro freedom, I will be voting yes - if it stays on the ballot.
I don't partake. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 9:02:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm pro freedom, I will be voting yes - if it stays on the ballot. I don't partake. I feel the same as you except I don't want a bunch of stoner deadbeats living off of my taxes. Do away with Federal give aways and I agree. Moving the assistance and accountability to the local level [and preferably non-governmental] would be the best thing we could do for the country. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 9:08:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I feel the same as you except I don't want a bunch of stoner deadbeats living off of my taxes. Do away with Federal give aways and I agree. Moving the assistance and accountability to the local level [and preferably non-governmental] would be the best thing we could do for the country. This isn’t going to increase the number of “stoner dead beats.” The dead beats are smoking right now illegally, or have found a doctor willing to give them a card. This law essentially prevents those “on the weekend,” or “ one or two nights a week” smokers (kinda like beer and bourbon folks) from risking criminal charges and dealing with shady motherfuckers while partaking. |
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Posted: 8/25/2022 6:27:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This isn’t going to increase the number of “stoner dead beats.” The dead beats are smoking right now illegally, or have found a doctor willing to give them a card. This law essentially prevents those “on the weekend,” or “ one or two nights a week” smokers (kinda like beer and bourbon folks) from risking criminal charges and dealing with shady motherfuckers while partaking. True. Still, encouraging irresponsible behavior will not improve society or help the irresponsible. We, as a country, need to go the other way. There has always been drunks/stoners, thieves, the lazy, all the other irresponsible behaviors. Endorsing that behavior increases it. We are not going to eliminate poor behavior/human nature: let's not encourage it or subsidize it. |
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Posted: 8/25/2022 8:28:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: True. Still, encouraging irresponsible behavior will not improve society or help the irresponsible. We, as a country, need to go the other way. There has always been drunks/stoners, thieves, the lazy, all the other irresponsible behaviors. Endorsing that behavior increases it. We are not going to eliminate poor behavior/human nature: let's not encourage it or subsidize it. I guess we should repeal the 21st amendment? |
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Posted: 8/25/2022 9:06:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: True. Still, encouraging irresponsible behavior will not improve society or help the irresponsible. We, as a country, need to go the other way. There has always been drunks/stoners, thieves, the lazy, all the other irresponsible behaviors. Endorsing that behavior increases it. We are not going to eliminate poor behavior/human nature: let's not encourage it or subsidize it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This isn’t going to increase the number of “stoner dead beats.” The dead beats are smoking right now illegally, or have found a doctor willing to give them a card. This law essentially prevents those “on the weekend,” or “ one or two nights a week” smokers (kinda like beer and bourbon folks) from risking criminal charges and dealing with shady motherfuckers while partaking. True. Still, encouraging irresponsible behavior will not improve society or help the irresponsible. We, as a country, need to go the other way. There has always been drunks/stoners, thieves, the lazy, all the other irresponsible behaviors. Endorsing that behavior increases it. We are not going to eliminate poor behavior/human nature: let's not encourage it or subsidize it. Nor does making it illegal stop it's ill effects, as the last 60 years of policy and results show. |
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Posted: 8/25/2022 10:18:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not does making it illegal stop it's ill effects, as the last 60 years of policy and results show. If anything, legalizing and regulating it probably makes it HARDER for underage users to get it. Maybe someday we’ll see kids standing outside of pot stores trying to talk adults into buying them weed instead of just buying it from some kid in school. Why should an otherwise hardworking and capable employee fear getting fired because he lights up a joint on weekends when his coworker can drink alcohol with no fear of reprisals? |
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Posted: 8/25/2022 4:04:24 PM EDT
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I get what the last 3 posts are presenting.
That doesn't validate encouraging less personal responsibility. Your arguments basically boil down to: 'Jimmy jumped off the cliff so it should be legal for me to do so also'. We cannot fix stupid and we cannot fix immaturity.... that doesn't mean we should encourage. Stupid and immaturity has and will always be with us: let's try and minimize it. |
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Posted: 8/25/2022 6:48:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I get what the last 3 posts are presenting. That doesn't validate encouraging less personal responsibility. Your arguments basically boil down to: 'Jimmy jumped off the cliff so it should be legal for me to do so also'. . . . No. The argument boils down to: "While some behaviors may not represent great choices for people, they don't rise to a level of trespass on others that the government has any business telling people they can't make those choices." There is a ancillary argument that says sometimes the consequences to society of attempting to prevent a behavior are more harmful that the consequences of allowing the behavior. Both are true in this case, in my opinion. |
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Posted: 8/26/2022 9:27:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. The argument boils down to: "While some behaviors may not represent great choices for people, they don't rise to a level of trespass on others that the government has any business telling people they can't make those choices." There is a ancillary argument that says sometimes the consequences to society of attempting to prevent a behavior are more harmful that the consequences of allowing the behavior. Both are true in this case, in my opinion. No, the argument boils down to: 'do we begin allowing something that is currently forbidden that is a break even/lose proposition'. It isn't going to improve anyone or society and it will hurt some and society as a whole. |
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Posted: 8/26/2022 10:03:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, the argument boils down to: 'do we begin allowing something that is currently forbidden that is a break even/lose proposition'. It isn't going to improve anyone or society and it will hurt some and society as a whole. Just a few more billion dollars in tax payer money and we are going to win that war on drugs any day now. |
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Posted: 8/26/2022 10:11:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just a few more billion dollars in tax payer money and we are going to win that war on drugs any day now. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No, the argument boils down to: 'do we begin allowing something that is currently forbidden that is a break even/lose proposition'. It isn't going to improve anyone or society and it will hurt some and society as a whole. Just a few more billion dollars in tax payer money and we are going to win that war on drugs any day now. Only a few more court cases that erode your Constitutional Rights across the board! |
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Posted: 8/26/2022 7:51:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If anything, legalizing and regulating it probably makes it HARDER for underage users to get it. Maybe someday we’ll see kids standing outside of pot stores trying to talk adults into buying them weed instead of just buying it from some kid in school. Why should an otherwise hardworking and capable employee fear getting fired because he lights up a joint on weekends when his coworker can drink alcohol with no fear of reprisals? Good post and I agree with all of the above. |
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Posted: 8/26/2022 10:18:03 PM EDT
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I am glad to be in the 3rd 3rd of my life, at 67
such foolishness. it has been so ... always. we are, as we have always been doomed. so much intelligence and so little wisdom pearls before swines |
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Posted: 8/26/2022 10:24:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, the argument boils down to: 'do we begin allowing something that is currently forbidden that is a break even/lose proposition'. It isn't going to improve anyone or society and it will hurt some and society as a whole. Yes. Because forbidding stuff is bad. Freedom is good. https://www.history.com/news/why-the-u-s-made-marijuana-illegal |
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Posted: 8/27/2022 8:02:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, the argument boils down to: 'do we begin allowing something that is currently forbidden that is a break even/lose proposition'. It isn't going to improve anyone or society and it will hurt some and society as a whole. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No. The argument boils down to: "While some behaviors may not represent great choices for people, they don't rise to a level of trespass on others that the government has any business telling people they can't make those choices." There is a ancillary argument that says sometimes the consequences to society of attempting to prevent a behavior are more harmful that the consequences of allowing the behavior. Both are true in this case, in my opinion. No, the argument boils down to: 'do we begin allowing something that is currently forbidden that is a break even/lose proposition'. It isn't going to improve anyone or society and it will hurt some and society as a whole. So you're OK with putting people in prison and fucking their lives with a criminal record for a chemical they choose to put in their body? |
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Posted: 8/27/2022 8:13:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you're OK with putting people in prison and fucking their lives with a criminal record for a chemical they choose to put in their body? A chemical delivered by a natural plant they can grow in their backyard or on a windowsill and requires no processing beyond drying . . . 
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Posted: 8/27/2022 9:25:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you're OK with putting people in prison and fucking their lives with a criminal record for a chemical they choose to put in their body? And too many times, people get harsher prison sentences for marijuana than pedophiles get for praying on children. Personally I am still on the fence about legal recreational marijuana. One it really isn't any worse than alcohol. Yet I also don't want our state to get overran with the wrong people like Colorado did. |
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Posted: 8/27/2022 10:35:47 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yet I also don't want our state to get overran with the wrong people like Colorado did. I can't imagine many liberal people moving here just so they can smoke pot. The politics alone would keep them away. Trump (and mini-Trumps in Jefferson City). Abortion. Racism (or at least a history of racism). Missouri rates near the bottom on virtually any measure that liberals would care about: spending on education, social services, health care, crime. We're one of the LAST places liberals are going to move to. (And that's not even considering the weather.) I wouldn't worry too much about Missouri becoming the next hot-bed of liberalism. |
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Posted: 8/27/2022 1:38:38 PM EDT
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I don’t have any love for that shit but I do love freedom.
I don’t think a deep red state being the 20th to drop MJ laws is going to draw scumbags like the already liberal shitholes that were first in line. No one is moving due to weed laws anymore. |
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Posted: 8/29/2022 10:57:49 AM EDT
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I love the way people on this forum just know what will happen when weed is legalized here. One of the great things about living in Missouri is we really don't need to guess. Every social change that happens in this country starts on both coasts and filters toward the center (Missouri) later on. Again, I say look at everywhere that weed has been legalized already. They were all promised great things and mass amounts of tax revenues to solve all our funding needs. But the truth is, if you ask people who do not smoke weed, they don't have anything positive to say about it. The only ones who like it are people who smoke weed, people who sell weed, and the democratic politicians that line their pockets from the lobbyists. If you like to smoke weed and you're happy that this will be legal, good for you. But at least have the balls to be honest and just say you want to smoke weed. Don't tell me that it will benefit society or anyone else, because it won't. And don't tell me that it won't lead to more people using weed (including kids), because it will. I know this will pass in November, so this whole discussion is like peeing in the wind. There's too much money changing hands behind the scenes for this to fail. Has legalized gambling made a positive impact or solved the education funding issues in Missouri? Prostitution will be legal here before I die as well, and many of you will be talking about how it's a victimless crime and everyone has the freedom to do whatever with your bodies. Believe what you want. To convince anyone that moral crimes are worth enforcing, you first have to have people that have morals, and they are a dying breed.
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Posted: 8/29/2022 11:34:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To convince anyone that moral crimes are worth enforcing, you first have to have people that have morals, and they are a dying breed. So, are you also calling for a return to alcohol prohibition? |
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Posted: 8/29/2022 12:03:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, are you also calling for a return to alcohol prohibition? Why is this always the counter? Like this country doesn't have a problem with alcohol abuse? |
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Posted: 8/29/2022 12:54:02 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So, are you also calling for a return to alcohol prohibition? Personally, I'd be OK with that. I drink about six beers in a year these days and wouldn't miss them if I quit completely. I admit I'm jaded because my father and brother both had drinking problems, and I've seen way too many people hurt and killed by alcohol abuse in my work. That being said, my preference would be to quit romanticizing alcohol use and teach our young that they don't need to throw back five or six drinks to have a good time. Instead, they keep making drinks like hard seltzer and lemonade to try and get young people to drink more and start earlier. It's a matter of incrementalism. I believe if weed is normalized, something like ecstasy will come later, then cocaine, then who knows? This is my opinion, but it's based on a lifetime of personal observation and life experience. I know most won't agree with my views and opinions, but that doesn't mean I'm stupid or wrong. It just means I have a different point of view from yours, and I choose to point out that I think there has been a steady decline of what I perceive as "morality" in this country. But what the hell do I know? I still go to church and love my wife of forty one years. |
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Posted: 8/29/2022 7:45:51 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is this always the counter? Like this country doesn't have a problem with alcohol abuse? Because allowing alcohol but forbidding pot is hypocritical and irrational. |
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Posted: 8/30/2022 10:00:32 AM EDT
[#34]
If this does pass, I predict Ozark County, where I live will have a bunch of Weed Shops on the Border of Arkansas. Could be a good investment opportunity but could turn the border area into a shit show with Arkansas Cops harassing everyone heading south.
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Posted: 8/30/2022 11:23:12 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is this always the counter? Like this country doesn't have a problem with alcohol abuse? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So, are you also calling for a return to alcohol prohibition? Why is this always the counter? Like this country doesn't have a problem with alcohol abuse? This country had plenty of issues with alcohol abuse before, during, and after prohibition. Alcohol and marijuana use is benign for the overwhelming majority of users. Turning those users into criminals is something freedom loving Americans should not tolerate. FWIW I have a safety sensitive job so no weed for me. |
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Posted: 8/30/2022 3:44:38 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A chemical delivered by a natural plant they can grow in their backyard or on a windowsill and requires no processing beyond drying . . . When I was in my teens GOOD pot had a THC content of 3-5. NOW it’s in the thirties! Using that argument Poppies should be O.K., there isn’t near as much work to produce Opium as went into increasing the THC in pot Do you REALLY think if you “invented” alcohol or tobacco today that you could bring them to market? |
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Posted: 8/30/2022 5:17:18 PM EDT
[#37]
Arfcom is all about liberty if the topic is guns. Anything else, forget it. Just a bunch of puritanical school marms who want to tell other people how to live.
Never seen a group of people who hate freedom so much. |
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Posted: 8/30/2022 5:54:29 PM EDT
[#38]
Freedom only works in conjunction with personal responsibility and morality.
Our culture is heading in the wrong direction on both counts. With freedom the risk of suffering from one's own mistakes and poor decisions should also happen. Nanny state has taken away the risk and suffering. Yes, those most likely to missuse drugs are insulated from the consequences and since I'm footing the bill I believe we should not encourage bad behavior. Do away with the nanny state then legalize drugs. |
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Posted: 8/30/2022 6:28:33 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When I was in my teens GOOD pot had a THC content of 3-5. NOW it’s in the thirties! Using that argument Poppies should be O.K., there isn’t near as much work to produce Opium as went into increasing the THC in pot Do you REALLY think if you “invented” alcohol or tobacco today that you could bring them to market? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A chemical delivered by a natural plant they can grow in their backyard or on a windowsill and requires no processing beyond drying . . . When I was in my teens GOOD pot had a THC content of 3-5. NOW it’s in the thirties! Using that argument Poppies should be O.K., there isn’t near as much work to produce Opium as went into increasing the THC in pot Do you REALLY think if you “invented” alcohol or tobacco today that you could bring them to market? Weak argument about the percentages, most people will just smoke less which is something you should celebrate. |
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Posted: 8/30/2022 6:37:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Arfcom is all about liberty if the topic is guns. Anything else, forget it. Just a bunch of puritanical school marms who want to tell other people how to live. Never seen a group of people who hate freedom so much. If the kind of abuse/misuse that happens with LEGAL alcohol and drugs, happened with guns, then we would see a lot more restrictions and 'freedoms' disappear. The government and LEO seem to turn a blind eye to drugs and alcohol, but will break it off in you if it's remotely connected to a firearm. Not fair. So most LEGAL gun owners, CCWer's, stamp collectors, etc have to conduct themselves in a very moral and law-abiding way in order to keep their freedom. Because if they 'eff it up, they lose that freedom. Not the case with drugs and alcohol......4 DWI's and vehicular manslaughter, yet you can still go to the bar and get away with driving a car (maybe not legally, but getting caught driving on a suspended/revoked DL is a slap on the hand compared to a prohibited person getting caught with a gun.) Case in point with the lax police enforcement on alcohol issue......my town has DUI checkpoints every once in a while. They're unconstitutional and waste of resources IMHO, but whatever. Do they put them on the side of town that has all the bars? NOPE. They put a dozen cops on the highway on the other side of town, which has a parallel "old highway..." that anybody can just turn off on and bypass the checkpoint. But they wouldn't dare set them up on the main drag near those 3 bars as that's where a ton of sales tax money comes from in this town. They maybe get one person on one of these checkpoints a weekend, yet they'd net at least 50 per location if they pulled people over as they left the bar's parking lot. Money > safety. That would never happen with guns. |
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Posted: 8/30/2022 6:55:06 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If the kind of abuse/misuse that happens with LEGAL alcohol and drugs, happened with guns, then we would see a lot more restrictions and 'freedoms' disappear. The government and LEO seem to turn a blind eye to drugs and alcohol, but will break it off in you if it's remotely connected to a firearm . . . You might want to double check your stats before making that argument too loudly. |
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Posted: 8/30/2022 7:22:30 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Freedom only works in conjunction with personal responsibility and morality . . . Are you saying that's it's immoral to consume marijuana? If so, what do you base that view on? |
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Posted: 8/30/2022 7:42:52 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If the kind of abuse/misuse that happens with LEGAL alcohol and drugs, happened with guns, then we would see a lot more restrictions and 'freedoms' disappear. The government and LEO seem to turn a blind eye to drugs and alcohol, but will break it off in you if it's remotely connected to a firearm. Not fair. So most LEGAL gun owners, CCWer's, stamp collectors, etc have to conduct themselves in a very moral and law-abiding way in order to keep their freedom. Because if they 'eff it up, they lose that freedom. Not the case with drugs and alcohol......4 DWI's and vehicular manslaughter, yet you can still go to the bar and get away with driving a car (maybe not legally, but getting caught driving on a suspended/revoked DL is a slap on the hand compared to a prohibited person getting caught with a gun.) Case in point with the lax police enforcement on alcohol issue......my town has DUI checkpoints every once in a while. They're unconstitutional and waste of resources IMHO, but whatever. Do they put them on the side of town that has all the bars? NOPE. They put a dozen cops on the highway on the other side of town, which has a parallel "old highway..." that anybody can just turn off on and bypass the checkpoint. But they wouldn't dare set them up on the main drag near those 3 bars as that's where a ton of sales tax money comes from in this town. They maybe get one person on one of these checkpoints a weekend, yet they'd net at least 50 per location if they pulled people over as they left the bar's parking lot. Money > safety. That would never happen with guns. I’d wager a guess that if certain drugs were never made illegal in the first place, we’d have almost zero gun laws. Or have you forgotten what prompted the NFA? |
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Posted: 8/30/2022 8:29:56 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Arfcom is all about liberty if the topic is guns. Anything else, forget it. Just a bunch of puritanical school marms who want to tell other people how to live. Never seen a group of people who hate freedom so much. You should take a poll on who benefits financially from keeping it illegal. All those cool toys arent going to pay for themselves. 
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Posted: 8/30/2022 10:55:16 PM EDT
[#45]
Think that pot is safer that alcohol?
https://www.foxnews.com/health/marijuana-high-thc-levels-linked-addiction-psychiatric-illness-study-finds |
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Posted: 8/30/2022 11:12:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Think that pot is safer that alcohol? https://www.foxnews.com/health/marijuana-high-thc-levels-linked-addiction-psychiatric-illness-study-finds I guess the solution is to keep it illegal so that children can buy it just as easily as adults and there is absolutely no oversight over potency, quality, purity, etc. |
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Posted: 8/30/2022 11:26:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Think that pot is safer that alcohol? https://www.foxnews.com/health/marijuana-high-thc-levels-linked-addiction-psychiatric-illness-study-finds Yawn. Wake me up when pot even comes close to 95000 related deaths per year. https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/brochures-and-fact-sheets/alcohol-facts-and-statistics |
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Posted: 8/31/2022 5:19:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you saying that's it's immoral to consume marijuana? If so, what do you base that view on? No, I'm saying our culture is less moral, in general, that it has been in the past. We are less personally responsible and less moral. |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 2:14:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Arfcom is all about liberty if the topic is guns. Anything else, forget it. Just a bunch of puritanical school marms who want to tell other people how to live. Never seen a group of people who hate freedom so much. And yet many of them fancy themselves as libertarian. Also relevant to most of the hand wringing in this thread: 
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Posted: 9/1/2022 3:51:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, I'm saying our culture is less moral, in general, that it has been in the past. We are less personally responsible and less moral. That’s a cop out. You brought up morality within a conversation about legalizing marijuana. Are you suggesting your comment was a non sequitur that had nothing to do with the conversation? Is consuming pot immoral or not? |
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