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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:17:43 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/25/2021 4:53:22 PM EST by Boom_Stick]
Read recently in GD that Co put a date of 2013 on mag ownership. Meaning you have to prove you legally acquired them before 2013??

Im asking because we're facing a mag ban here in Wa. Proposed bill verbage says mags owned beforehand are legal to own (grandfathering), but doesn't state anything in regards to proof. However I could see that becoming a problem. Anyone in your state have burden of proof put on them for mags?

Been saving shipping and ordering reciepts lately, but I have tons of mags from past orders I didn't. Considering hiring a lawyer to document/affidavit my inventory as proof of ownership if a ban passes.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 4:56:07 PM EST
Originally Posted By Boom_Stick:
Meaning you have to prove you legally acquired them before 2013?
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how did you come to this conclusion?
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 5:07:40 PM EST
Don't stress over it, burden of proof is on the prosecution, not the defense.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 5:14:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 13crows:
how did you come to this conclusion?
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It was made to sound like you guys had to prove ownership prior to 2013. Thats why Im asking
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 5:45:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Boom_Stick:
It was made to sound like you guys had to prove ownership prior to 2013. Thats why Im asking
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The statute is clear, the burden of proof is on the prosecution.    

See paragraph 2(b)...

https://codes.findlaw.com/co/title-18-criminal-code/co-rev-st-sect-18-12-302.html
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 6:10:54 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Boom_Stick:
It was made to sound like you guys had to prove ownership prior to 2013. Thats why Im asking
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Originally Posted By Boom_Stick:
Originally Posted By 13crows:
how did you come to this conclusion?
It was made to sound like you guys had to prove ownership prior to 2013. Thats why Im asking


No sir we do not. As far as I know there has only been a couple of people even charged and they were caught committing actual crimes.
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Originally Posted By thedave1164:
CO is not a really good comparison, unless you actually have the exact same law and exact same law enforcement.

sorry, but you won't know diddly until your law is passed and see how it is enforced
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Yeah thats kinda why Im trying to get info and get ahead of if I can. So far the way the bills written its just basic grandfathering with no specifics. Open ended saying if you had them then your good. Thats it. Seems left open to interpretation unless a general BOP is written somewhere else Im unaware of.

Your guys' portion of putting the BOP on the state was a nice safety net. Someone thought ahead.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 3:33:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/21/2021 3:38:51 PM EST by Kiltakaze]
The issue is that law has all but been unenforced so we don't have much of a comparison. Heck, a good chunk of our stores still openly sell "high capacity" magazines

(Its a great issue to have)

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Originally Posted By Lancelot:
But we can't order magazines above 15 rounds because nobody will ship them to us. So even though it is not enforced, it is enforced in that you can't order them if you have a Colorado address.
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You just have to find smaller dealers who don't give a rat fuck about our crappy laws.  They're out there
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:10:35 AM EST
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Originally Posted By the-fly:


You just have to find smaller dealers who don't give a rat fuck about our crappy laws.  They're out there
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Originally Posted By the-fly:
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
But we can't order magazines above 15 rounds because nobody will ship them to us. So even though it is not enforced, it is enforced in that you can't order them if you have a Colorado address.


You just have to find smaller dealers who don't give a rat fuck about our crappy laws.  They're out there

Two just in my small town
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 1:27:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Lancelot:
But we can't order magazines above 15 rounds because nobody will ship them to us. So even though it is not enforced, it is enforced in that you can't order them if you have a Colorado address.
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If there was a Badger on a Mountain,  would he be in charge of Supply?
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If there was a Badger on a Mountain,  would he be in charge of Supply?
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I see what you did there.
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Originally Posted By Lancelot:
But we can't order magazines above 15 rounds because nobody will ship them to us. So even though it is not enforced, it is enforced in that you can't order them if you have a Colorado address.
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Not saying I do this, but theoretically, it might be possible to order 16+ round mags from online retailers and have them shipped to friends/relatives out of state.  

Link Posted: 1/29/2021 6:42:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/29/2021 6:42:03 PM EST by thedave1164]
mag thread has ran its course
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