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Posted: 12/28/2020 10:43:42 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/11/2021 9:40:24 PM EST by WileyCoyote]
Update 20210111:
Dewine signs SB 140!!!

woohoo!




Ohio Knife Laws Go Positive

CODY, WY, UNITED STATES, January 11, 2021 /EINPresswire.com/ -- The American Knife & Tool Institute (AKTI) applauds the very positive changes that are coming to Ohio knife laws with SB 140 having just been signed by Governor Mike DeWine. The new law had bipartisan support in the legislature, and provides economic benefit to Ohio businesses.
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Clarity will be provided that a concealed item (knife, razor or cutting instrument) is NOT a “deadly weapon” or “weapon” unless it is actually used as a weapon. This has been a point of confusion not only for knife owners, but also law enforcement and in the courts. Currently any knife may be considered a “deadly weapon,” defined as “any instrument, device, or thing capable of inflicting death, and designed or specially adapted for use as a weapon, or possessed, carried, or used as a weapon.” (2923.11 A). Ohio law, 2923.12, has provided that it is an offense to “knowingly carry or have, concealed on the person’s person or concealed ready at hand” any “dangerous weapon.”
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Link Posted: 12/28/2020 10:57:25 PM EST
Good news. I have no faith that Dewine will sign it, though. Hopefully he does.
Link Posted: 12/31/2020 9:04:05 PM EST
I had a friend from high school that got charged with concealing a weapon. He had a chefs knife in his glove box. He was on his way home from work, at a restaurant... where he was a cook...
Link Posted: 1/4/2021 8:59:45 PM EST
Any updates?
Link Posted: 1/4/2021 10:04:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DaveyDug:
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I haven't seen any news of it being signed yet...
Link Posted: 1/4/2021 10:07:50 PM EST
He said he would veto any bill unrelated to covid relief.  Said they had better things on which to spend their time.
Link Posted: 1/4/2021 10:11:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AFCarbon15:
He said he would veto any bill unrelated to covid relief.  Said they had better things on which to spend their time.
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he signed SB 175, which had the repeal of duty-to-retreat...   thus, i don't see why he wouldn't sign SB 140, ..we'll soon find out!
Link Posted: 1/5/2021 9:57:18 AM EST
What does this say about out-the-front automatics?
Link Posted: 1/5/2021 10:09:01 AM EST
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Originally Posted By AFCarbon15:
He said he would veto any bill unrelated to covid relief.  Said they had better things on which to spend their time.
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He should sign his resignation letter. That would be relief.
Link Posted: 1/5/2021 10:34:54 AM EST
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Originally Posted By NightFox:


He should sign his resignation letter. That would be relief.
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Originally Posted By AFCarbon15:
He said he would veto any bill unrelated to covid relief.  Said they had better things on which to spend their time.


He should sign his resignation letter. That would be relief.
That would be nice.
Link Posted: 1/11/2021 9:34:17 PM EST
gov signed it!   updating OP...

Link Posted: 1/11/2021 10:24:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/11/2021 10:25:01 PM EST by Plumber576]
https://www.cleveland.com/open/2021/01/gov-mike-dewine-vetoes-bill-to-reopen-county-fairs-signs-anti-protest-measure.html

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DeWine also signed Senate Bill 140, which will allow people to carry concealed switchblades, razors and other knives and cutting instruments, so long as they’re not used as weapons. It also repeals Ohio’s ban on manufacture and sale of “switchblade,” “spring blade” and “gravity” knives.
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Very excited to hear this as a daily pocket knife carrier. Time to switchblade shop.
Link Posted: 1/11/2021 10:49:57 PM EST
folks, remember these generally go into effect 90 days after signing...
Link Posted: 1/12/2021 5:06:08 AM EST
Good news.
Link Posted: 1/12/2021 6:40:46 AM EST
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https://www.cleveland.com/open/2021/01/gov-mike-dewine-vetoes-bill-to-reopen-county-fairs-signs-anti-protest-measure.html

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Very excited to hear this as a daily pocket knife carrier. Time to switchblade shop.
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Is there an official definition of a “switchblade?” Are we thinking that this finally legalizes out-the-front autos?
Link Posted: 1/12/2021 2:53:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Nate19:


Is there an official definition of a “switchblade?” Are we thinking that this finally legalizes out-the-front autos?
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https://www.akti.org/news/ohio-knife-laws-go-positive/

Read that. Switchblades have been weird in Ohio where they're basically legal to own but carrying them, the sale of them, and the servicing of them was unclear. Now they're legal to own and sell in the state without confusion. I don't know any other state law prohibiting their carry s I'm going to get a new one from an Ohio dealer.
Link Posted: 1/12/2021 3:27:13 PM EST
is or was there a restriction on blade style or length?
And would this bill remove that resriction as well if one existed?
Link Posted: 1/12/2021 3:55:33 PM EST
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Originally Posted By stlyns:
is or was there a restriction on blade style or length?
And would this bill remove that resriction as well if one existed?
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The state has never had a blade length restriction.

Local laws may vary.
Link Posted: 1/13/2021 6:36:16 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Plumber576:


https://www.akti.org/news/ohio-knife-laws-go-positive/

Read that. Switchblades have been weird in Ohio where they're basically legal to own but carrying them, the sale of them, and the servicing of them was unclear. Now they're legal to own and sell in the state without confusion. I don't know any other state law prohibiting their carry s I'm going to get a new one from an Ohio dealer.
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Rivers Edge has sold autos for years.
Link Posted: 1/13/2021 8:50:42 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Plumber576:


https://www.akti.org/news/ohio-knife-laws-go-positive/

Read that. Switchblades have been weird in Ohio where they're basically legal to own but carrying them, the sale of them, and the servicing of them was unclear. Now they're legal to own and sell in the state without confusion. I don't know any other state law prohibiting their carry s I'm going to get a new one from an Ohio dealer.
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Without looking up the ORC, my understanding of the current law was you could not carry ANY knife designed to be opened with one hand.  Spring assist, emersons and even the thumb stud fit the definition.  It just wasn't enforced for anything but autos.  

This is great news, but they need to change the CHL to a CCW license.  

Dewine surprises.  While we knew he wasn't going to fulfill all of our hopes and dreams, he was the best choice on the ballot.  For all of his garbage Covid policies, I'm glad he's at least doing something for us.  
Link Posted: 1/13/2021 9:52:51 AM EST
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Rivers Edge has sold autos for years.
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Originally Posted By Ohioan:
Originally Posted By Plumber576:


https://www.akti.org/news/ohio-knife-laws-go-positive/

Read that. Switchblades have been weird in Ohio where they're basically legal to own but carrying them, the sale of them, and the servicing of them was unclear. Now they're legal to own and sell in the state without confusion. I don't know any other state law prohibiting their carry s I'm going to get a new one from an Ohio dealer.



Rivers Edge has sold autos for years.


I'm well aware.
Link Posted: 1/13/2021 2:27:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AFCarbon15:


Without looking up the ORC, my understanding of the current law was you could not carry ANY knife designed to be opened with one hand.  Spring assist, emersons and even the thumb stud fit the definition.  It just wasn't enforced for anything but autos.  

This is great news, but they need to change the CHL to a CCW license.  

Dewine surprises.  While we knew he wasn't going to fulfill all of our hopes and dreams, he was the best choice on the ballot.  For all of his garbage Covid policies, I'm glad he's at least doing something for us.  
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And I thought all of that one hand stuff was a bunch of fudd talk and not actual law???

Anyhow I'm glad it's going away......

Thanks to all who pushed this through.
Link Posted: 1/13/2021 11:14:16 PM EST
...remember, 90 days folks...

Governor Signs SB 140 Knife Bill into Law
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 6:21:53 AM EST
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Originally Posted By ScottyPotty:
And I thought all of that one hand stuff was a bunch of fudd talk and not actual law???

Anyhow I'm glad it's going away......

Thanks to all who pushed this through.
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It wasnt actual law.  At the state level at least.
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 6:48:44 PM EST
Is the new knife law protected by preemption?
Link Posted: 1/19/2021 7:28:11 AM EST
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Originally Posted By crazyelece:
Is the new knife law protected by preemption?
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Not explicitly, but kinda sorta.  The Ohio state constitution says cities cannot make legal what state law makes illegal, and they cannot make illegal what state law makes legal.  So, it depends on exactly what state law now says, and what some cities legislation said.  And I'm sure some judge will decide he doesn't like this and will pull something out of his a** and force a case to go to the Ohio supreme count.

I am not a lawyer, etc., etc.
Link Posted: 1/19/2021 6:10:53 PM EST
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Not explicitly, but kinda sorta.  The Ohio state constitution says cities cannot make legal what state law makes illegal, and they cannot make illegal what state law makes legal.  So, it depends on exactly what state law now says, and what some cities legislation said.  And I'm sure some judge will decide he doesn't like this and will pull something out of his a** and force a case to go to the Ohio supreme count.

I am not a lawyer, etc., etc.
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Originally Posted By crazyelece:
Is the new knife law protected by preemption?


Not explicitly, but kinda sorta.  The Ohio state constitution says cities cannot make legal what state law makes illegal, and they cannot make illegal what state law makes legal.  So, it depends on exactly what state law now says, and what some cities legislation said.  And I'm sure some judge will decide he doesn't like this and will pull something out of his a** and force a case to go to the Ohio supreme count.

I am not a lawyer, etc., etc.


But you must have stayed at a Holiday inn last night?
Link Posted: 1/19/2021 6:16:52 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Digital_Chaos:

But you must have stayed at a Holiday inn last night?
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Link Posted: 1/20/2021 2:43:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AFCarbon15:
 

This is great news, but they need to change the CHL to a CCW license.  


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Agreed. I'd nut if that happened. You can conceal carry a loaded handgun, but not a knife? Bullshit.

They need to eliminate the requirement for a CHL/CCW, too. And while we're at it, eliminate the ban on loaded long guns in motor vehicles, or at least make it like Nevada where, as long as there's no round in the chamber, you're good.
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