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Posted: 1/31/2020 6:08:19 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/31/2020 6:33:39 AM EST by mikeraja]
There is plan to hold a 2nd Amendment Rally at Plant City (east of Tampa) (115 E. Knights Griffin Road) Feb 15 from 14:00 to 16:00. See III% Florida Patriots.
The keynote speaker will be KrisAnne Hall- Constitutional Lawyer, Author and Radio Show. I always enjoy listening to her no BS speaking.
Other speakers will be:
Chris Paradies- Paradies Law
John Melendez- Constitutional Activist
Ed Shoemaker- Republican Party of Fla Polk County Committeeman
Pastor Jack Martin- Black Robe Regiment
DJ Parten-Executive Director Florida Gun Rights
Steve Linne- Florida District 6 candidate.
Bring a chair. Let's speak out against the gun control bills being proposed to take our rights away.
Link Posted: 2/1/2020 1:11:01 AM EST
What is the venue like? And does it cost anything?
Link Posted: 2/1/2020 10:28:49 AM EST
I do know there is a covered roof open sided barn type area. But there is also a lot of pasture.
I don't have direct contact with the property owner and I received the info from a friend. I wanted to get the info out there and went with what I had.
It would be best to bring a chair, and consider the weather.
No cost.
I'll follow with more as I get it.
Link Posted: 2/3/2020 1:02:11 PM EST
My home town in
Link Posted: 2/4/2020 5:12:35 PM EST
Link Posted: 2/5/2020 8:47:17 AM EST
I am told now this event is cancelled. I know nothing further.
Perhaps someone can get some other event organized and get everybody motivated.
Link Posted: 2/6/2020 3:45:21 PM EST
I just emailed Ed Shoemaker to find out and will update.
Link Posted: 2/6/2020 4:15:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/6/2020 4:15:44 PM EST by disparcher91]
I just received word that it has been cancelled. This came from Ed Shoemaker who was scheduled to be one of the speakers.

@mikeraja
Link Posted: 2/6/2020 8:05:14 PM EST
Let us know when and where it’s to be rescheduled I’d love to attend.
Link Posted: 2/6/2020 8:49:36 PM EST
I have been emailing Dr Franklin Shomaker who is Part of the Polk County GOP, and was listed above as a guest speaker. He just responded to my email in reference to rescheduling about 7 mins ago.

"However we are having an event feb 15 from 9Am- 11pm at believers fellowship in Lakeland"

That was the entire email minus the signature lines. No mention what type of event. I looked the venue up and it is a Pentecostal church. I personally have no issues with that at all. It's just that I am not too sure that the 9am - 11pm was a mistake.

I did call the others listed above on the flyer, but he was the only one who got back to me.
Link Posted: 2/7/2020 10:40:12 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/7/2020 10:40:32 AM EST by disparcher91]
Update on the Plant City rally,
https://www.facebook.com/events/s/defending-gun-rights-meet-gree/2819293858117152/

https://facebook.com/events/s/defending-gun-rights-meet-gree/2819293858117152/?ti=ia

Would love to see our Republican candidates and elected officials attend this event! Polk County Commissioner’s, Lakeland City Commissioner’s, etc This event will be presented by the Faith Based Republican Club of West Polk and hosted by Believers’ Fellowship
5240 N Socrum Loop Rd
Lakeland, FL 33809.
KrisAnne Hall will be speaking on the topic “America Disarmed.”

Respectfully,

Dr. Ed Shoemaker, PhD, LMHC (MH13244), TF-CBT, QS (Franklin Edward Shoemaker) Mr Ed’s Family & Education

@mikeraja
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 9:00:16 AM EST
After Action Report- At least 2 people that are viewers of AR15.com showed up. KrisAnne Hall gave a very good presentation. If you have a chance to listen to her, take advantage of it while you can.
I am supposing everybody else was just too busy, couldn't be bothered or just not interested.
My forecast is that retaining and defending our rights is not going to get any easier. We are faced with a rough future.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 6:51:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/16/2020 6:52:33 PM EST by disparcher91]
The showing was a bit on the slim side all around. If there was 20 people there, counting the organizers, I would be surprised. And I'm not saying that to be an ass or make it seem worse. That is the honest truth. While in the lobby I overheard Krissanne saying something about the wrong address had been put out on some of the social media. I'm going to say optimistically that was the reason for the lack of people there, and that somewhere there was a parking lot full of 2A supporters.

Krissane gave a great talk on the history of the 2A. She also hit on the 4th, and some obscure facts about the revolution.

@mikeraja

It was great to, um, finally meat you

ETA: at 45 yo I was the youngest there, seconded by mikeraja.
Link Posted: 2/17/2020 3:08:06 AM EST
Please take this in the spirit of constructive criticism in which it's offered, but yes, put me down in the "couldn't be bothered" category. I was glad to drive from Tampa to Dunnellon to try and catch as much of the FL Carry event as I could, but the questionable location, bad info, and poor planning on this one led me to skip it. Don't get me wrong - I was very interested when I saw this thread pop up. Then I tried to Google the location given in the first post and saw that it appeared to be a random farmer's field. Not a great first impression. Even in hindsight, having since learned that it was less a "rally" and more a "meet and greet", I don't see how anyone would've reasonably expected this to be more than a small event for like-minded locals. I don't know if the organizers were aware, but they held this thing on the same day that there was a gun show in Lakeland, so even with better advertising I doubt they'd have gotten very far. I tried to mention this event to the co-worker who told me about the gun show, but he was completely uninterested in changing his plans.

On a broader level, I can't help but question what an event like this does to help in "retaining and defending" our rights. It's all well and good to talk about rights or history or even the current state of affairs here, but did anyone actually discuss any way that the audience could effect any positive change? With all due respect to the speakers, I don't want a history lesson. I want an overview of who supports our rights in the legislature and who just says they do. I want lessons on organizing people to support a cause and get our message out to the general public. I want to know the best way to marginalize all these BAWN idiots and Demanding Moms, and how to expose and fight against the monied interests that prop them up. Put together an event like that and I'll bring as many people as I can with me when I go.
Link Posted: 2/17/2020 3:16:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CZRider:
Please take this in the spirit of constructive criticism in which it's offered, but yes, put me down in the "couldn't be bothered" category. I was glad to drive from Tampa to Dunnellon to try and catch as much of the FL Carry event as I could, but the questionable location, bad info, and poor planning on this one led me to skip it. Don't get me wrong - I was very interested when I saw this thread pop up. Then I tried to Google the location given in the first post and saw that it appeared to be a random farmer's field. Not a great first impression. Even in hindsight, having since learned that it was less a "rally" and more a "meet and greet", I don't see how anyone would've reasonably expected this to be more than a small event for like-minded locals. I don't know if the organizers were aware, but they held this thing on the same day that there was a gun show in Lakeland, so even with better advertising I doubt they'd have gotten very far. I tried to mention this event to the co-worker who told me about the gun show, but he was completely uninterested in changing his plans.

On a broader level, I can't help but question what an event like this does to help in "retaining and defending" our rights. It's all well and good to talk about rights or history or even the current state of affairs here, but did anyone actually discuss any way that the audience could effect any positive change? With all due respect to the speakers, I don't want a history lesson. I want an overview of who supports our rights in the legislature and who just says they do. I want lessons on organizing people to support a cause and get our message out to the general public. I want to know the best way to marginalize all these BAWN idiots and Demanding Moms, and how to expose and fight against the monied interests that prop them up. Put together an event like that and I'll bring as many people as I can with me when I go.
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Yes there were mess ups in the organizing, but I was just a spectator. I was being nice in my post above and did not want to trash the hosts too bad. But yeah I was not too impressed with it. And I stood up at the end when it was time for ?'s and asked her why she was still telling us the SOS of "get activated" "teach people". She then went on about how no one wants a civil war and we just need to be even more active. Voting for elected officials to vote in a certain manner is not enough. Well there was a time that it was, and maybe we need to get back to that. I stayed after and spoke to a few people there and put my point of view out there.

In her lesson she said that the socialist had 200 years of infiltrating the education system and that was how they gained power. Rush has been educating for 30 years and look where we are. Her main goal was to get people to buy her books, CD's, and continue to preach the 2A gospel. Maybe in 200 years we will have it back. I could tune into Lebin, Wilkow, or almost any other of the talking heads to hear the same stuff. I hate to say it but I am noticing a lot of the Jesse Jackson type on our side. They love to talk but no call to action.

@CZRider

are you going to the hike in largo this weekend?
Link Posted: 2/17/2020 6:58:35 PM EST
Yeah - I understand the organizers aren't actually here, and I'm not just out to disparage anyone, them included. I just take a little exception to the idea that nobody showing up for a rally-but-actually-it's-listening-to-random-people-in-a-church is some kind of sign that nobody cares enough to defend our rights. I think it's time we take a hard look at what does and doesn't work to move the needle in the right direction so we don't all just keep doing the same old thing and then wonder/complain when nothing comes of it.

I plan to be there, yeah - the ABB thing was actually part of the reason I finally signed up here. Going with my point here and above, I think it's a great concept to promote good health and get people talking to each other about current issues in a format that stays true to the roots of the 2A. I've also never really done a ruck march before so I'm just quietly hoping I don't embarrass myself too badly
Link Posted: 2/18/2020 9:38:37 AM EST
Perhaps if the event would have come to fruition where it was initially intended with all the different speakers planned, there might have been more turnout.
My intent was only to get the event out there and noticed so people could see something was being attempted for a rally.
As far as where it was-farmers field, auction barn- I don't care. I am much more comfortable with that than some fenced in rally zone in Virginia with one gate.
The Virginians did an admirable job and it seems as they have succeeded in delaying some law enactment for the time being. Good for them. I can see Florida and most of this country heading right down the same path. You have choices you can make now. Your choices may be significantly reduced with no involvement from you.
Link Posted: 2/19/2020 6:52:30 AM EST
The changing of venue did not help. I liked the origional venue myself. No one puts any fault at you for relaying the message. Their organizational skills just did not come together.
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