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Posted: 3/15/2021 12:53:45 AM EDT
Update 20210324:
veto override successful!!!! mega dish of karma served to dewine!!!  --------------------------------------------------------------- Update: 20210323 Dewine issues the veto, ...time for us to counter!!! Find your Ohio Rep and Senator here: House Directory: https://www.legislature.ohio.gov/legislators/house-directory Senate Directory: https://www.legislature.ohio.gov/legislators/senate-directory Contact any, or all, of the House and Senate Leadership: House Speaker: Rep Cupp (614) 466-9624 https://ohiohouse.gov/members/robert-r-cupp/contact House Pro Tempore: Rep Ginter (614) 466-8022 https://ohiohouse.gov/members/timothy-e-ginter/contact House Majority Leader: Rep Seitz (614) 466-8258 https://ohiohouse.gov/members/bill-seitz/contact Senate President: Senator Huffman (614) 466-7584 https://ohiosenate.gov/senators/huffman-m/contact Senate Pro Tempore: Senator Hottinger (614) 466-5838 https://ohiosenate.gov/senators/hottinger/contact Senate Majority Leader: Senator Shuring (614) 466-0626 https://ohiosenate.gov/senators/schuring/contact ------------------------------------------------------ SB 22 https://www.legislature.ohio.gov/legislation/legislation-summary?id=GA134-SB-22 Bill giving Ohio lawmakers veto power over health orders heads to governor Senate president promises override vote if DeWine vetoes oversight bill  If napolean dewine vetoes, ..I think a veto override is feasible! how great would it be to shove it ____! 
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Posted: 3/15/2021 8:26:09 AM EDT
[#1]
Here's hoping! I wish they had done this months ago.
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Posted: 3/15/2021 8:29:40 AM EDT
[#2]
Fuck yeah!
Lets people sue the state on the constitutionality of any order in their county of residence and pays them attorney fees if they win. |
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Posted: 3/15/2021 10:41:09 AM EDT
[#3]
Dewine said many times he doesn't care if they sue him for his mandates. "I've been sued before and expect more". If it doesn't cost "him" it doesn't matter.
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Posted: 3/15/2021 2:10:31 PM EDT
[#4]
This is only the first step. Can anyone speak to how this will relate to local Municipal and County ordinances passed that mimicked Dewine's orders? If it doesn't remove the local ordinances, it's only a minor step, until each City is sued into submission.
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Posted: 3/16/2021 8:08:18 AM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dewine said many times he doesn't care if they sue him for his mandates. "I've been sued before and expect more". If it doesn't cost "him" it doesn't matter. It is amazing that people don't understand they are the common denominator in their life problems. |
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Posted: 3/17/2021 9:27:11 AM EDT
[#6]
I don't know that I am confident the governor is going to veto the bill as it stands," Senate President Matt Huffman, R-Lima, said. He hoped DeWine would consider the amount of support SB 22 has within his own party, and the fact that Huffman's confident he has the votes to quickly override a veto. Hey Little Mikey: people are sick of your bull. Now we just have to pray that we don't end up with a Senator Acton in the Portman spot... |
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Posted: 3/17/2021 9:59:02 AM EDT
[#7]
So help an uneducated guy out here: what is the time frame for this type of thing?
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Posted: 3/17/2021 9:10:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So help an uneducated guy out here: what is the time frame for this type of thing? 10 days from time presented to governor, excluding Sundays... so, i'd imagine that puts his deadline at next Monday... ...signature isn't needed, he could just ignore it (no veto) for the duration of this grace period, and it would become law... ..or.. ...he could veto it, and then face getting overridden by his own party... 
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Posted: 3/17/2021 9:16:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is only the first step. Can anyone speak to how this will relate to local Municipal and County ordinances passed that mimicked Dewine's orders? If it doesn't remove the local ordinances, it's only a minor step, until each City is sued into submission. Quote HistoryQuoted: This is only the first step. Can anyone speak to how this will relate to local Municipal and County ordinances passed that mimicked Dewine's orders? If it doesn't remove the local ordinances, it's only a minor step, until each City is sued into submission. Lawmakers pass bill to let them rescind health orders, setting up clash with DeWine Changes made to the bill Tuesday night prohibit local health boards from issuing widespread quarantine or school shutdown orders and allow Ohio citizens to sue the state government from their home counties if they feel orders made are unconstitutional. |
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Posted: 3/17/2021 9:29:36 PM EDT
[#10]
SB 22 seeks to wholly curtail the concentrated tyranny of "health emergency" that we were put through last spring, ...and continue to slough through...
Lawmakers pass bill to let them rescind health orders, setting up clash with DeWine SB 22, introduced by GOP Sens. Rob McColley of Napoleon and Terry Johnson of McDermott, would give lawmakers the power to rescind public health orders they disagree with via passing a concurrent resolution. They could strike down a health order the same day it is issued. State Sens. Terry Johnson, R-McDermott, and Rob McColley, R-Napoleon, are the main sponsors of Senate Bill 22. If an order is rescinded, the state would be prohibited from reissuing the same (or similar) order for a period of 60 days. Lawmakers could also rescind a state of emergency declaration after 30 days have passed. The bill would limit emergency declarations to 90 days in length, with legislative approval needed to extend it further. |
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Posted: 3/22/2021 11:02:51 AM EDT
[#11]
So, I have not heard of any veto/signature by DeWine. I assume that after today it becomes law then? So, if I am reading this correctly, a bill has to be introduced to actually remove the mask mandate, correct?
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Posted: 3/22/2021 9:45:08 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So, I have not heard of any veto/signature by DeWine. I assume that after today it becomes law then? So, if I am reading this correctly, a bill has to be introduced to actually remove the mask mandate, correct? apparantly dewine is threatening to veto (as of today), ...although i haven't seen anything yet indicating he actually has vetoed it.. watching and waiting... Gov. Mike DeWine Says SB22 Veto Imminent, But Renews Call For Compromise if he vetoes, it'll be the last minute... then, we shall lobby our state legislators, and the senate and house leadership, to override... |
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Posted: 3/22/2021 10:27:36 PM EDT
[#13]
I'm gearing up for the case where Dewine vetoes the bill... If I see evidence of a veto being issued tonight or tomorrow, i'll update the OP with this info so we can firemission a veto override...
Find your Ohio Rep and Senator here: House Directory: https://www.legislature.ohio.gov/legislators/house-directory Senate Directory: https://www.legislature.ohio.gov/legislators/senate-directory Contact any, or all, of the House and Senate Leadership: House Speaker: Rep Cupp (614) 466-9624 https://ohiohouse.gov/members/robert-r-cupp/contact House Pro Tempore: Rep Ginter (614) 466-8022 https://ohiohouse.gov/members/timothy-e-ginter/contact House Majority Leader: Rep Seitz (614) 466-8258 https://ohiohouse.gov/members/bill-seitz/contact Senate President: Senator Huffman (614) 466-7584 https://ohiosenate.gov/senators/huffman-m/contact Senate Pro Tempore: Senator Hottinger (614) 466-5838 https://ohiosenate.gov/senators/hottinger/contact Senate Majority Leader: Senator Shuring (614) 466-0626 https://ohiosenate.gov/senators/schuring/contact |
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Posted: 3/23/2021 7:49:10 PM EDT
[#14]
ok, everyone, ..here we go...
DeWine vetoes bill limiting his emergency powers; lawmakers could override  |
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Posted: 3/23/2021 7:54:18 PM EDT
[#15]
updated the OP to include contact info (phone, email) for Ohio representatives and senators, including leadership....
now is the time to light up the phones and email!!!! contact your rep and senator, but also contact some (or all) of the leadership to let them know we back overriding napolean dewine!!!  |
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Posted: 3/24/2021 3:40:02 PM EDT
[#16]
now back to the House |
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Posted: 3/24/2021 5:12:25 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
now back to the House House voted 62-35 for the override. |
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Posted: 3/24/2021 6:50:02 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: House voted 62-35 for the override. That's not enough, is it? Don't they need 64 or 65 to override? |
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Posted: 3/24/2021 7:18:06 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's not enough, is it? Don't they need 64 or 65 to override? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: House voted 62-35 for the override. That's not enough, is it? Don't they need 64 or 65 to override? Isn't it 3/5ths needed? That would be 59. I see now, it passed, but now takes 90 days. https://www.cleveland.com/open/2021/03/ohio-lawmakers-override-dewine-veto-pass-limits-on-governors-coronavirus-powers.html |
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Posted: 3/24/2021 9:15:46 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's not enough, is it? Don't they need 64 or 65 to override? yes it's enough, ...consider it done! overridden!!!! hallelujah!!!  
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Posted: 3/24/2021 9:20:19 PM EDT
[#21]
Lawmakers override DeWine veto, restriction limitations back on
sweet, sweet revenge, ..and an assurance the tyranny-by-one unlikely to happen again!!!   
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Posted: 3/24/2021 9:22:01 PM EDT
[#22]
Here's how they voted in the House (veto override):
yea: Abrams Baldridge Bird Brinkman Callender Carfagna Carruthers Click Creech Cross Cutrona Dean Edwards Ferguson Fowler Arthur Fraizer Ghanbari Ginter Grendell Gross Hall Hillyer Holmes Hoops Householder John Johnson Jones Jordan Kick Koehler Lampton Lanese LaRe Lipps Loychik Manchester Manning McClain Merrin Oelslager Patton Pavliga Plummer Powell Ray Richardson Riedel Roemer Schmidt Seitz Stein Stephens Stewart Stoltzfus Swearingen Wiggam Wilkin Young, B. Young, T. Zeltwanger Cupp nay: Blackshear Boggs Boyd Brent Brown Crawley Crossman Denson Galonski Hicks-Hudson Howse Ingram Jarrells Kelly Leland Lepore-Hagan Lightbody Liston Miller, J. Miranda O'Brien Robinson Russo Sheehy Skindell Smith, K. Smith, M. Sobecki Sweeney Sykes Troy Upchurch Weinstein West White |
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Posted: 3/24/2021 9:30:26 PM EDT
[#23]
...major black eye to napoleon dewine!!!!
 ...he had many an opportunity to back down and admit he overreached, ..but didn't, ...instead he complained that the bill was "unconstitutional" and violated "separation of powers"... love the karma! BREAKING: Republican Lawmakers Override DeWine Just One Day After SB22 Veto Senator Terry Johnson, SB22 co-sponsor, said during his floor speech in the Senate “it intrigues me when the word science is brought up.” Johnson, a student of science who has practiced medicine for over 30 years, pointed out that opinion and emotion are not science – and the fact that the votes for and against the bill go along party lines is “politics, not science.” Johnson, as he did in his first floor speech in favor of the bill before it went to DeWine for a veto, highlighted the 300 Ohioans who testified in favor of the bill when it was in committee. “These are people who wanted to be heard.” He continued, “I challenge the media to not do the stories about Terry Johnson” but to look into the 300 proponent testimonies. “Ask them, ‘What happened to you over the last year?’ ‘What’s your opinion?’ Crickets are what I hear from the media.” |
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Posted: 3/24/2021 9:39:34 PM EDT
[#24]
so proud of our legislature, ..this is sweeping!!!
BREAKING: Republican Lawmakers Override DeWine Just One Day After SB22 Veto Major elements of SB22 include:
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Posted: 3/24/2021 9:47:57 PM EDT
[#25]
here's how they voted in the senate (veto override):
yea: Antani Blessing Brenner Cirino Gavarone Hackett Hoagland Hottinger Huffman, S. Johnson Lang Manning McColley O'Brien Peterson Reineke Roegner Romanchuk Rulli Schaffer Schuring Wilson Huffman, M. nay: Antonio Craig Dolan Fedor Kunze Maharath Sykes Thomas Williams Yuko-10 |
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Posted: 3/24/2021 10:12:59 PM EDT
[#26]
Once this goes into effect, no reason I can see that this can't be used to end the mask mandate.
Both my reps were on board for this bill. |
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Posted: 3/24/2021 10:53:44 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Once this goes into effect, no reason I can see that this can't be used to end the mask mandate. Both my reps were on board for this bill. I believe the mask mandate will end on a federal level shortly. CDC has already dropped crumbs for this by saying anyone vaccinated can hangout with an unvaccinated person indoors without a mask. Official guidance will be to just assume anyone not wearing a mask has been vaccinated, and voila, masks disappear. |
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Posted: 3/24/2021 11:01:38 PM EDT
[#28]
Ok. Good first step.
What now? |
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Posted: 3/25/2021 9:24:34 AM EDT
[#29]
Hey Little Mikey:
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Posted: 3/25/2021 9:35:49 AM EDT
[#30]
News on radio said 90 days to take effect.
eta: OP link says SB22 will become law in 90 days. |
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Posted: 3/25/2021 9:54:53 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: News on radio said 90 days to take effect. eta: OP link says SB22 will become law in 90 days. My guess is that Little Mikey may try to take this to court. Who knows... |
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Posted: 3/25/2021 11:06:41 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My guess is that Little Mikey may try to take this to court. Who knows... Harder to run a court appeal when you are now notGovernor DeWine. |
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Posted: 3/25/2021 11:24:40 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My guess is that Little Mikey may try to take this to court. Who knows... Being as the legislature played by the established rules, what grounds does he have to legitimately bring a case? If he does, it will be nice if the courts tell him to pound sand. |
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Posted: 3/25/2021 11:42:44 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Official guidance will be to just assume anyone not wearing a mask has been vaccinated, and voila, masks disappear. I very seldom wear a mask, and once the stores I frequent take down the signs, I won't be wearing a mask in them and won't get the vaccine.. |
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Posted: 3/25/2021 12:56:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Being as the legislature played by the established rules, what grounds does he have to legitimately bring a case? If he does, it will be nice if the courts tell him to pound sand. Yeah, I think that ultimately they will tell him to pound sand but it doesn't stop him from being petulant and fighting it every step of the way. |
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Posted: 3/25/2021 7:53:17 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I very seldom wear a mask, and once the stores I frequent take down the signs, I won't be wearing a mask in them and won't get the vaccine.. |
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Posted: 3/26/2021 9:53:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is my worry, that Kroger and Walmart will keep the signs up. I take the mask off once I'm inside, or drop it below my chin.. I was in BestBuy getting new phones and had the mask off my face and under my chin.. |
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Posted: 3/26/2021 11:40:05 PM EDT
[#38]
...so, now after getting KO'd, dewine is urging all of us to "beat" the virus in the next 89 days (time before SB 22 takes effect)... he appears a little exhausted...
 watch the vid: DeWine responds to veto override of SB 22 |
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Posted: 3/31/2021 5:14:41 AM EDT
[#39]
So does this mean mask mandates whatever that means are over in Ohio?
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Posted: 3/31/2021 10:42:20 AM EDT
[#40]
Any updates on judicial action? Hopefully masks die here.
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Posted: 3/31/2021 11:48:29 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So does this mean mask mandates whatever that means are over in Ohio? |
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Posted: 3/31/2021 2:46:49 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is my worry, that Kroger and Walmart will keep the signs up. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I very seldom wear a mask, and once the stores I frequent take down the signs, I won't be wearing a mask in them and won't get the vaccine.. Hasn’t been enforced at the two Kroger around us regardless of what their sign says. |
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Posted: 3/31/2021 3:29:17 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ...so, now after getting KO'd, dewine is urging all of us to "beat" the virus in the next 89 days (time before SB 22 takes effect)... he appears a little exhausted... watch the vid: DeWine responds to veto override of SB 22 I had it and beat it 3 months ago. |
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