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Posted: 11/12/2018 5:20:35 PM EDT
If you look at the last several years archive you can see where we have found and posted all the necessary legislative contact information in the past.
It has been put up piecemeal in dibs and dabs as responses to questions.

This time we need to formulate a clear plan and post well organized information.
In order to retain our freedom to act this has to remain an "unorganized" effort.
We do not want to fall into the trap of becoming a PAC of some sort and having to expend most of our effort filing required paperwork, paying fee's, etc.
We did this many years ago with the Nevada Committee of 1776 and it worked pretty well.

We need a few almost full time volunteers, which may be harder to find than money!
Ideally two or three, but at least one each for north and south, hoping for folk who are retired and not hurting for funds or too disabled for some travel to Carson City Feb - April.
If we cannot have that ideal we must work with what we can get.

Second is money and a plan for how to raise it and what to do with it.
NRA are still the 800 Lb. Gorilla of lobbying but also tend to be somewhat missing in action until the last minute, or when it's a core national issue for them.
They generally do not seem to care about NFA or issues that only affect Nevada.
NVFAC are the Nevada NRA affiliate and already have a registered lobbyist so funneling money to them is probably a good idea IF we can get them to address OUR issues early and often.
We also need independent action as legislators often have as jaundiced a view of lobbyist as the general public.
This is particularly true of new legislators who have not yet adopted lobbyist as their benefactors.
So citizen contacts remain VERY important!
NVFAC link, NVFAC
I admit to being not well versed on what the rules are for paying for radio/TV ads or donations directly to lobbyist/reps.
Never had that much to donate so it has not been an issue, time to look into this.

We need to post contact info for all members of the Nevada legislature ASAP, also the state legislature and governors  comment lines.
We must NOT ignore the governor and other anti's as that only gives them the out that "I never heard any opposition to XXX from Nevada constituents!"

BDR's (Bill Draft Request) are ALREADY being drafted and submitted for the 2019 session!
You can bet anything this includes anti-RKBA bills.
The good news here is that the BDR drafts are posted on-line before the session begins.
One of our first task becomes combing through the BDR's to get the earliest possible heads-up so that we can react hard and early to each POS anti-RKBA bill.
The best chance to kill a bad bill is during the earliest hearings.
Once bad bills gets "Legs" and committee hearings they can be harder to kill than zombies and have been known to rise from the dead via varied feculent legislative trickery.
So please plan to be available to SHOW UP in opposition to bad bills.
Hearings are held in Carson City with video feeds from LV and Elko.
Since we will NOT be working with a friendly legislature our numbers have to be larger than ever to prevail.

This is only a preliminary outline with much more to be done.
It's going to be work, and cost money, but as the saying goes, "Freedom is not free!"
Link Posted: 11/12/2018 7:06:03 PM EDT
[#1]
Thank you for putting this up.  While I don't have a lot of time to devote to this, I will do what I can.  Already planning on going to the session once or twice this year.  Already in touch with my newly elected Assembly and Senate people.

As much as I know that money makes the world go round, I always feel like contributions are ineffective or just lining someone else's pockets.  Will look further into NVFAC.

If I'm reading this correctly, getting in touch via PM will be a good way to contact/coordinate on our grassroots presence.

Is there an attorney among us who can help if needed?
Link Posted: 11/12/2018 7:33:08 PM EDT
[#2]
Yes, at some point an attorney may be a good idea.
If the FIRST amendment still means anything we should not need one.

I do not even OWN a so called "Smart Phone" so a task that is really beyond me is communications co-ordinator.
Some folk actually LIKE being twits, er ah, using "Twitter", Fake-Book, and the rest of the new fangled time wasters.
I've been told they are now NECESSARY to communicate with anyone under forty?

PM's are probably the most private means to communicate and I suppose that since I kicked this off I've made a fool of myself and "Volunteered" to moderate it.
As most of you know I've been involved in NV politics for a long time, formed the original NV Committee of 1776 and organized it's capitol rallies (With help from the now defunct Nevada Freedom Coalition), NRA-EVC, R Central Committee member for decades, and frequent attendance at the legislature.
And yah, I've been known to push folk here to be more involved a few times.

So strategy mostly by PM, action plan to be posted and spread as widely as possible by all means without compromising op-sec.
Link Posted: 11/12/2018 7:48:01 PM EDT
[#3]
Speaking of the defunct Nevada Freedom Coalition.
They were a very effective coalition of conservative leaning groups.
I personally saw them kill several bad bills at the first hearing, sometimes just by being in the room, as the authors withdrew the bills as soon as they realized what a fight they were picking!
THAT is what we ultimately need to be able to do!
Frankly, it would be hard to do all that is needed alone so re-forming a version of the Nevada Freedom Coalition is likely to be necessary.
To do that I think we have to get our own group together and able to demonstrate the ability to act in a visible manner.
From there it should be possible to organize a coalition again, we as gun owners are not the only ones in the socialist target zone!

EDIT; I'm going to contact Janine Hansen as she is the only other veteran of the Nevada Freedom Coalition I know how to reach.
Want to ask her if any of the old groups still exist and in light of the election debacle are any of them thinking of working together again?
Link Posted: 11/12/2018 9:42:56 PM EDT
[#4]
Contact list for organizations and "our" legislature.
I will update this post as I gather more information.
Unless most disagree I am leaving all links cold to not inform their owners who we are or how often we visit their sites.

2019 Nevada legislature, MANY links at the site. https://www.leg.state.nv.us/Session/80th2019/
Please learn your way around ASAP.

Nevada Firearms Coalition. https://www.nvfac.org

Nevada Republican Party. https://nevadagop.org/nevada-republican-county-parties/

Independant American Party. (IAP) http://iapn.org

Nevada Democrat party. https://nvdems.com/party/state-central-committee/
(I have to wash my hands after typing that.)
Link Posted: 11/12/2018 10:42:20 PM EDT
[#5]
I'm in and available. I live in Carson City and I will do what ever I can . I work long hours but I an willing to use some sick time and vacation time.
Link Posted: 11/13/2018 12:38:44 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
"Freedom is not free!"
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Thanks for all that you do, you have a renewed membership. Just log out and log back in.
Link Posted: 11/14/2018 1:04:34 AM EDT
[#7]
I'm .mil and down in Vegas, but I'll do what I can to help.  Gun control is a lie and we can't let NV succumb.
Link Posted: 11/14/2018 2:33:56 PM EDT
[#8]
Been thinking on this more than I should.
In the end we are fighting changing demographics.
So we need to change the trend away from the libs taking full control.
Not much chance of making a big dent in Clark/Washoe directly.
But taking a page from the "Free State Project" we should be able to increase the power of the rural pro-RKBA counties to off-set the libs.
Tired of the "We are 70% of the population so everyone should just let us dictate everything statewide!" tripe.
For those thinking of moving, instead of leaving the state try to get to one of the "Rural" counties BEFORE THE NEXT CENSUS!
For any pro-RKBA folk still considering coming to Nevada, PLEASE avoid Clark and Washoe counties.
Many of our rural counties have almost no tax base so need a bit of growth.
If possible relocate your business to a rural county and out of Clark/Washoe.
The goal is to reduced Clark/Washoe percentage of the total population so that the rest of us may wrest some control/representation back from them.
Needs to happen before the next redistricting, I look forward to howls of impotent rage as the libs lose some of their seats/power.
Link Posted: 11/14/2018 6:04:31 PM EDT
[#9]
I have been thinking of this for some time.

Last session was a major eye opener for me, as far as how the libs will absolutely ignore anything from the right.

We had the Elko room packed to the gills multiple times during hearings and we essentially got ignored on a lot of trapping items.  The result was "compromise" which meant..

"Ok, we won't screw you AS BAD as we originally planned, so we will at least give you lube when we butt fuck you.".

The impression made there was that they ha e no intention of using lube this time.

I feel that there will not be a frog in a simmering pot syndrome this time.

The Senate, assembly, and governor have an agenda.  They have a plan, and they have the power to get it done.

They do not care about the rurals.  They do not care that you and I have done nothing but follow laws.  They don't care.

Ms. Cancela has already requested or co-requested BDR's that relate to firearms for this session.

Things I predict will be on the agenda, including what has been mentioned by them already

Bump stocks
Magazines
The back ground check fiasxo, even if it means breaking their own rules.
Trapping
Bear hunting
Hunting with dogs/hounds
Medicaid expanding which can only be paid for by higher taxes in one form or another so that is schmucks that work can pay for the ones who refused to work, and get to collect benefit anyway.

This one pisses me off to no end simply because, the libs get to vote in stuff that positively impacts their voting base, at the expenses of those who don't support them.

It would be like an owner of a McDonald's raising the prices of the food for paying customers, sp that he can support the homeless camps with free food. Except the McDonald's owner would go put of business, because evil capitalism.

Problem with the state is that the people who get the free hamburgers get to tell the people that are paying for it, that they must continue, and have zero say in the matter!

I will be contacting senators, assemblymen, and the governor, by email, on person during hearings and if possible by phone on every opportunity that I see fit. For certain, I will contact every one of them NO LESS than weekly.

Good luck guys. Fight hard. Do not fight fair The gloves are off.  The pit bulls are in the cage, and you are staring down the barrel of a .357 right now.
Link Posted: 11/14/2018 6:37:26 PM EDT
[#10]
"They" do not care because the rural counties did not elect them.
"They" would care if there were fewer of them and they lost power as a result.
I am not kidding about trying to diminish Clark/Washoe dominance with the next census.
And yes it will be important to keep the census numbers honest by excluding illegals.
I do not want my representation even further reduced by illegals giving the socialist more seats than they legitimately deserve.
Link Posted: 11/30/2018 12:38:58 PM EDT
[#11]
Just over two months before the next legislative session begins.
The one where we get totally screwed over and truly become E. Kalifornia unless we fight well above our weight!
It's still the holiday season so enjoy your toys (While you can?) and family, but please begin getting familiar with the state legislature web-sight as soon as you can.
We will have to hit back hard and fast in order to stop the socialist crap-storm.
The D's had little trouble stopping our good legislation even when the R's "controlled" both houses and the governorship, so WE should certainly be able to do the same!
Link Posted: 11/30/2018 10:55:49 PM EDT
[#12]
Well I joined NVFAC for prob what little its worth but better than nothing I guess. I escaped Oregon and Washington feels like we are only a couple years behind them at this point
Link Posted: 12/1/2018 1:30:11 AM EDT
[#13]
Link Posted: 12/1/2018 1:33:34 AM EDT
[#14]
I’m supposed to move to Nevada in the near future, as I was hoping to get away from the draconian gun laws I am facing in my state. Now, I will have to deal with the same thing in NV. I never thought I’d see Nevada turn into California.
Link Posted: 12/1/2018 2:45:35 AM EDT
[#15]
Please move to any county EXCEPT Clark or Washoe!
Douglas county is the "Garden Spot" of the state if you like trees and rivers but getting pretty expensive.
It's also consistently the most conservative county in this state.
But it too is being inundated with liberals, they gave 30% of the vote to socialist in the last election!
It used to be that the socialist could barely manage about 15% only a few years ago.
We need more RKBA people in the conservative counties.
Link Posted: 12/1/2018 6:40:46 AM EDT
[#16]
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Fuck this Communist Asshole...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTdKk4PrXBU
Link Posted: 12/1/2018 11:53:26 AM EDT
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Please move to any county EXCEPT Clark or Washoe!
Douglas county is the "Garden Spot" of the state if you like trees and rivers but getting pretty expensive.
It's also consistently the most conservative county in this state.
But it too is being inundated with liberals, they gave 30% of the vote to socialist in the last election!
It used to be that the socialist could barely manage about 15% only a few years ago.
We need more RKBA people in the conservative counties.
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We don't need more conservative people in conservative counties. That's fighting a battle already lost. We have to turn the blue counties red. Start fighting the unions and turning up dirt on every blue politician in the state. Bury the blue politicians in the legal process.

We need to organize, fundraise, hire way too many lawyers and slow/reverse what's happened. Waiting for the Dems to step on their own dicks doesn't work with 85% of the media backing them, even when they step on their own dicks no one hears about it. Our side consistently loses by playing nice against a side that plays by another set of rules and is so bigoted that they really don't believe conservatives are humans.

Right now it's a numbers game, Clark has Way more registered Democrat's and Washoe is close but now leans blue.

Census is coming and the Dems will finish us then.
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 12:18:36 PM EDT
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We don't need more conservative people in conservative counties. That's fighting a battle already lost. We have to turn the blue counties red. Start fighting the unions and turning up dirt on every blue politician in the state. Bury the blue politicians in the legal process.

We need to organize, fundraise, hire way too many lawyers and slow/reverse what's happened. Waiting for the Dems to step on their own dicks doesn't work with 85% of the media backing them, even when they step on their own dicks no one hears about it. Our side consistently loses by playing nice against a side that plays by another set of rules and is so bigoted that they really don't believe conservatives are humans.

Right now it's a numbers game, Clark has Way more registered Democrat's and Washoe is close but now leans blue.

Census is coming and the Dems will finish us then.
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We need to look at how they win when there in the minority. They don't let elections stop them They continue to fight and they win even when they loose an election. They are organized and all ways fighting. We can beat them, we just need to get our shit together.
Link Posted: 12/26/2018 1:06:20 AM EDT
[#19]
When do we get started, I don't make much but I can easily commit $20.00 a month and 10hr a week. how do we get started
Link Posted: 12/26/2018 1:56:50 AM EDT
[#20]
NRA and NVFAC will no doubt take a look at pending BDR's (Bill Draft Request) but probably not do much about them unless/until they get past their first hearing.
I would suggest we begin searching the BDR's right away and try to kill the bad ones at the first opportunity, BEFORE their first hearings if possible.
This is where being in touch with your reps comes in handy.
We want to hear "I move for no further consideration of XXXX" early and often!

I think our best move is to show up in MASSIVE numbers for the first anti-RKBA bill hearing, and make it plain that we WILL be back if more such come up.
The lib majority may view this as a test, will the pro-gun folk really turn out to defend their RKBA in numbers we cannot ignore, or can we just steamroll them with our smug know-nothing majorities and supportive media?

I think the comment about NVFAC being "Weak" is probably correct, but is largely based on their low membership numbers.
Despite their steady presence at gun shows and even gun giveaways it seems most Nevada gun owners are still unaware of them, or don't really know what they are about.
Not to be a zealot recruiter, but another few thousand members would make an impression on legislators, particularly a sudden surge.
It would also greatly increase their budget for professional lobbying.

The national NRA's clout comes from their 6 Million+ members, not Wayne's charm.
NRA has the big budget, but are based out of Sacto CA and Virginia, so not very answerable to NV residents.
NRA only seems to show up late, after the "Compromise language" (RKBA Screwing!) has already been mostly set.
NRA may get a bad bill slightly watered down in the details, but does not seem to prioritize Nevada as a constituent base.
I'm still waiting to see what NRA does about the BS Ban, but not expecting much as it's another facet of the '86 MG Ban they winked at.
Don't want to get into that much here as it's really off topic to this thread.
Link Posted: 12/26/2018 9:04:21 AM EDT
[#21]
I looked a few days ago and am not finding any bills other than a clarification on a loaded muzzle loader in a vehicle for an actual bill.

It has been about a week since I looked, and j don't expect much for a few days either.
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 2:39:29 AM EDT
[#22]
Seems trump banned bump stocks..

Might be worshipping the false prophet there..
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 3:14:43 AM EDT
[#23]
He's not a prophet, a reactionary.
I don't have a Twit account, maybe someone here can message him a reality check.
Executive Orders have to be based on existing law, pulling a Klinton'esqe redefinition to suit the situation of the moment is not his finest hour.
This is going to be a while settling out, I'm rooting for the whole NFA house of cards to fall as a result.
Link Posted: 1/4/2019 11:06:49 PM EDT
[#24]
Link Posted: 1/5/2019 10:11:23 AM EDT
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Yeah and we don’t have a VCDL of our own to centrally fight this.VCDL has stood up for the 2A very thoughtfully, effectively and consistently. Hope they win again...but it’s going to be difficult.
Link Posted: 1/15/2019 1:43:55 AM EDT
[#26]
how can I help?
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 2:15:07 AM EDT
[#27]
Republican Lincoln Day Dinner's are about to be held in most counties.
Lyon's is next Saturday at the Pioneer and it seems tickets are still available.
I've bought mine.
Since I'm no longer in Douglas I have fewer chances to speak with my assemblyman and senator.
I will make up for that on Saturday while pushing the point that I would rather NO new laws get passed than ANY version of "Gun Control"!
Really, we have thousands of unneccessary laws already so a complete blockade of the libs agenda would be a good idea in any case.

I suggest that everyone else who can make it to at least one of these dinners should do so.
If you are not already known to your reps this is a chance to introduce yourself.
You get a decent meal (Usually) and the chance to speak with your (R) reps outside of the capitol which can be priceless.
Showing up demonstrates that you are serious and may be remembered later.
Link Posted: 1/30/2019 2:08:32 PM EDT
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Republican Lincoln Day Dinner's are about to be held in most counties.
Lyon's is next Saturday at the Pioneer and it seems tickets are still available.
I've bought mine.
Since I'm no longer in Douglas I have fewer chances to speak with my assemblyman and senator.
I will make up for that on Saturday while pushing the point that I would rather NO new laws get passed than ANY version of "Gun Control"!
Really, we have thousands of unneccessary laws already so a complete blockade of the libs agenda would be a good idea in any case.


I suggest that everyone else who can make it to at least one of these dinners should do so.
If you are not already known to your reps this is a chance to introduce yourself.
You get a decent meal (Usually) and the chance to speak with your (R) reps outside of the capitol which can be priceless.
Showing up demonstrates that you are serious and may be remembered later.
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EXCELLENT post!

I've written to state legislators and have yet to receive any kind of response.

In addition to the facts that so-called "assault weapons" are actually used in a miniscule percentage of murders and indeed violent crime overall, Richard has pointed out above that there are more than enough laws on the books to deal with crimes...new laws will NOT prevent someone from committing murder, but effective enforcement strategies WILL.  Hammers and scissors kill more people in NV than "assault weapons" do.  Pull the publicly-available FBI Crime Stats for proof.

Stop trying to Punish The Good, as all this accomplishes is Rewarding The Bad.

1 October was a heinous event, and for those involved (even peripherally), the scars of this atrocity will haunt us forever.  Yet, the copycats who were "inspired" by this were apprehended before they could commit any more violence (for the most part).  We haven't had any more 1 Octobers since, yet the reasons are carefully obscured by the politicians who don't want the truth pointed out to them nor the rest of the masses:

- "See Something Say Something" works.  Yes, it does result in a TON of BS calls & authorities are forced to have to separate the wheat from the chaff, so to speak.
- Shot-Spotter systems from various manufacturers & vendors have been successfully deployed throughout the Strip and Fremont Street areas; these triangulate and video-record potential gunshots in the areas covered by these systems, and have been utilized successfully to apprehend suspects.
- Back-Scatter and other personnel-scanning technologies are being implemented in properties with great success.  Cue up the Wynn and Encore for anyone trying to carry concealed while on these properties.
- Facial Recognition and other personally-identifying software implementations (coupled with increasing deployment of AI) are in use along the Las Vegas tourist corridors, and in a few years will be in widespread use.  This technology has successfully ID'd potential (and real) suspects suspected/implicated in violent crimes already, and is capable to detecting persons concealing firearms, especially long guns.
- Increased communications amongst properties' security & management personnel have improved success rates of detecting potential violent crimes and criminals before they were able to commit more violent crimes...more properties are working together now to prevent any more 1 Octobers from happening.

I'm not advocating for any of these technologies listed; they are already in use and have developed a track record.  All I'm saying is that we should also point out to these lawmakers and legislators that evolving technology and improved procedures among LE & the public are PROVING that these methods are a far more effective way to prevent gun crime than any type of gun control.  Let's push technology on legislators as an alternative to gun control, in hopes that they'll back off on their attempts to ram any new firearms laws through.
Link Posted: 1/30/2019 3:42:01 PM EDT
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EXCELLENT post!

I've written to state legislators and have yet to receive any kind of response.

In addition to the facts that so-called "assault weapons" are actually used in a miniscule percentage of murders and indeed violent crime overall, Richard has pointed out above that there are more than enough laws on the books to deal with crimes...new laws will NOT prevent someone from committing murder, but effective enforcement strategies WILL.  Hammers and scissors kill more people in NV than "assault weapons" do.  Pull the publicly-available FBI Crime Stats for proof.

Stop trying to Punish The Good, as all this accomplishes is Rewarding The Bad.

1 October was a heinous event, and for those involved (even peripherally), the scars of this atrocity will haunt us forever.  Yet, the copycats who were "inspired" by this were apprehended before they could commit any more violence (for the most part).  We haven't had any more 1 Octobers since, yet the reasons are carefully obscured by the politicians who don't want the truth pointed out to them nor the rest of the masses:

- "See Something Say Something" works.  Yes, it does result in a TON of BS calls & authorities are forced to have to separate the wheat from the chaff, so to speak.
- Shot-Spotter systems from various manufacturers & vendors have been successfully deployed throughout the Strip and Fremont Street areas; these triangulate and video-record potential gunshots in the areas covered by these systems, and have been utilized successfully to apprehend suspects.
- Back-Scatter and other personnel-scanning technologies are being implemented in properties with great success.  Cue up the Wynn and Encore for anyone trying to carry concealed while on these properties.
- Facial Recognition and other personally-identifying software implementations (coupled with increasing deployment of AI) are in use along the Las Vegas tourist corridors, and in a few years will be in widespread use.  This technology has successfully ID'd potential (and real) suspects suspected/implicated in violent crimes already, and is capable to detecting persons concealing firearms, especially long guns.
- Increased communications amongst properties' security & management personnel have improved success rates of detecting potential violent crimes and criminals before they were able to commit more violent crimes...more properties are working together now to prevent any more 1 Octobers from happening.

I'm not advocating for any of these technologies listed; they are already in use and have developed a track record.  All I'm saying is that we should also point out to these lawmakers and legislators that evolving technology and improved procedures among LE & the public are PROVING that these methods are a far more effective way to prevent gun crime than any type of gun control.  Let's push technology on legislators as an alternative to gun control, in hopes that they'll back off on their attempts to ram any new firearms laws through.
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Love these points.  Any sources to help support these when talking to fucking idiots our representatives?
Link Posted: 2/3/2019 2:23:24 AM EDT
[#30]
Just got back from the Lyon County Republican Lincoln Day Dinner.
Spoke with several of our legiscritters, Mark Amodei, James Settlemeyer, and Jim Wheeler among others.
Also spoke to our Nevada Republican National Committee Man, who has ready access to the White House/Trump.
Met Assemblyman Jim Marchant (R-37, which is mostly northern Clark County), who plans to run for CD4 in 2020.
He's referred to as being a staunch "Reagan" conservative and strong RKBA supporter.
Since he's way down south I leave it to the southies to check him out some more and perhaps support him.
I have his cards, not sure what the rules are for putting his contact info out prior to the election, but PM or email me and I will send it to you.

If anyone else from this forum was there I'm sorry to not have met you.

Had some good conversations and made sure our RKBA is not being forgotten.
Some conversations were not fun, as it seems it will only take one or two R's acting like D's to give Gov. Sissy-licker anything he wants.
So it is confirmed that in order to prevail we have to become more active than ever before.
With my new job and location I will not be able to make the sort of first hand reports on the legislature that I used to.
Hoping someone here can take that chore over?

Also revisited the https://www.nvfac.org site.
I'm going to call for anyone who has not already joined to do so ASAP.
I note that they have a pretty large list of officers.
Not sure how one becomes an officer and did not see any member meetings scheduled but they ARE our main NV lobbyist Org. so need our support.
I will look into how members get to have their say and report back.
Link Posted: 2/4/2019 10:57:40 PM EDT
[#31]
OK - first day of the legislature.  Here are a few of the firearms related bills that have already popped up:

https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/NELIS/REL/80th2019/Bill/5974/Overview

SB55. This bill clarifies that a muzzle loader will not be considered "loaded" in a vehicle when there is a projectile in the barrel if it isn't primed and ready to shoot.  Seems good to me.

https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/NELIS/REL/80th2019/Bill/6128/Overview

AB113. This bill fixes the tax department rule that tried to turn FFLs into tax collectors for firearms transfers and says that FFLs will no longer need to collect sales tax on out of state transfers.  As an FFL, this is a great fix.

https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/NELIS/REL/80th2019/Bill/6123/Overview

SB120.  This is the "Red Flag" law that creates a new class of protection orders due to "high risk behaviors" and mandates firearms confiscations without due process.  We must fight back on this one!!
Link Posted: 2/5/2019 12:17:07 AM EDT
[#32]
I’ll be writing my Senator in the morning regarding SB120
Link Posted: 2/5/2019 12:26:46 AM EDT
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https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/NELIS/REL/80th2019/Bill/6123/Overview

SB120.  This is the "Red Flag" law that creates a new class of protection orders due to "high risk behaviors" and mandates firearms confiscations without due process.  We must fight back on this one!!
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Disgusting
Link Posted: 2/5/2019 1:24:23 AM EDT
[#34]
I wonder what other rights might be ripe for suspension of due process?
Libs are already attacking free speech of conservatives, and aspects of freedom of religion.
Maybe we can get some support from folk feeling that pressure?
Link Posted: 2/5/2019 8:51:57 AM EDT
[#35]
What red flag law is very concerning.

I also noticed that we are how a female and Democrat majority state, and the Senate majority leader is a gay black man who is concerned about the LGBTQ homelessness in Las Vegas.

It just blows me away the things that I didn't even know were "things" even 10 years ago are now at the forefront of our state house.

I will do the best I can to follow the situation, and plan to be in Elko of any of the hearings will be televised there, but I am so far away from a population center with such a bad work schedule, that it is nearly impossible to participate other than by phone or email.

I do have a lot of contacts in my phone thoguh, and have been successful in rallying people in the past.
Link Posted: 2/5/2019 12:42:57 PM EDT
[#36]
I am out of town until Saturday, bad timing but unavoidable.
Counting on some of you to keep track of the goings on at the legislature.
Time to respond will be too soon!
Link Posted: 2/5/2019 4:27:50 PM EDT
[#37]
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Love these points.  Any sources to help support these when talking to fucking idiots our representatives?
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Unfortunately I don't, as my experiences with these have been first-hand.

IIRC, the first half of the Saudi Arabian Purge thread in GD contains many references to tech journal articles about some of the new technologies employed & in development, as well as the 1 October LV shooting thread.

ETA: When I get the time, I'll try to find valid references and post them up here for everyone.
Link Posted: 2/5/2019 4:33:49 PM EDT
[#38]
Richard, THANK YOU for your hard work & representation for us.  You've helped me overcome my apathy somewhat to at least start writing letters to reps in Carson City again.

Also printed out & will mail off NVFAC application.  We need to be better organized.  The so-called "red flag" BS should be terrifying to anyone reading through that crap...after all, we already have domestic-violence laws that strip one of their 2A rights when arrested & convicted of DV.  At least the DV process involves a hearing and trial, whereas the "red-flag" crap completely eliminates all forms of due process and representation.
Link Posted: 2/5/2019 8:10:14 PM EDT
[#39]
NVFAC PAC is soliciting donations now that our politicians are back scheming for the new session. I admire their list of goals but honestly I think the best case scenario is keeping firearms laws exactly the same as they are now, with no new Intolerable Acts inflicted upon us. Unfortunately I think they are our only line of defense. If you don't do anything else, donate some money to our state group who has boots on the ground.
Link Posted: 2/6/2019 9:04:00 PM EDT
[#40]
I spent quite some time trying to track down some verifiable references on how technology is countering repeats of 1 October, and most are either only available to paid subscribers (I even tried using Outline.com but even that wouldn't work all the time) or are so obscure that none of my Search-Fu attempts were sharp enough to find them.

However, there are some tidbits worth reading through and following up on.

First up is the success of LVMPD (Las Vegas Metro Police) use of acoustic-based gunfire detection in northeast part of valley, in crime-ridden neighborhoods:
https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/las-vegas-police-to-continue-gunshot-detection-program-in-2019-1537857/

http://www.clarkcountynv.gov/public-communications/news/Pages/Metro,-Clark-County-Announce-Implementation-of-Gunfire-Detection-and-Alert-Technology-to-Fight-Urban-Gun-Crime.aspx

LVMPD uses ShotSpotter on the Strip:
https://www.fox5vegas.com/news/shotspotter-locates-nearly-las-vegas-gunshots-in-year/article_c029d0c4-f361-11e8-ab91-57775d1414ac.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/10/gunfire-detection-systems-see-renewed-interest-after-las-vegas-tragedy.html

https://www.shotspotter.com/cities/

As most hotels/casinos don't want their security methods well-known and desire to keep their methods discrete, here are some tidbits for the Westgate Hotel:
https://www.wired.com/story/the-las-vegas-resort-using-microwaves-to-keep-guns-out-of-its-casino/

https://bearingarms.com/micah-r/2017/12/11/las-vegas-casino-will-use-new-technology-to-detect-prohibited-weapons/

The Wynn & Encore use a similar system currently, but I haven't been able to confirm details other than seeing it in action first-hand (their plain-clothes security details confront and remove those who are suspected of CCW on property).  Supposedly they have former/retired SF/Seals as part of their "quick response teams" as well as in many of their security ranks, but again I haven't been able to confirm this.

There is a strong desire to keep the exact methods and equipment used as discrete and unknown as possible; most of these I've seen first-hand in action since 1 October.

But reading through these articles gives you a good sense of how Clark County and LVMPD are already claiming success over "gun violence" by utilizing technology.

Other methods include increasing intelligence sharing between LE & Intel agencies, and LVMPD ramping up their "Safe Strip" program....the Safe Strip program utilizes uniformed LVMPD officers in high visibility roles on the Strip; most of this involves overtime as LVMPD simply does not have the manpower to fully staff it otherwise.

Hopefully this will get some good starts for letters to our reps.
Link Posted: 2/7/2019 11:21:25 PM EDT
[#41]
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 12:21:37 AM EDT
[#42]
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SB55 https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/NELIS/REL/80th2019/Bill/5974/Overview

Isn't this already on the books?
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They have been clarifying a lot of the wildlife related laws in recent years, included in that would be language in regards to fishing and hunting specifics.  I would have to look at the current hunt book, but I think it just cleans up the wording a little bit.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 2:20:01 AM EDT
[#43]
HERE IT COMES! From Senator Settelmeyer:

The background check legislation that was declared unenforceable by then Attorney General Laxalt will be heard Tuesday at the Nevada legislature. It will be heard at a special joint meeting of the Senate and Assembly Judiciary committee at 8:00 am. If you want to be heard please show up and testify. In order to be heard I suggest not being repetitive and just say me to or ditto if your point has already been said, but get your name on the record. The language has not been released and will not be available until Monday. Contact the members of Senate and Assembly Judiciary as well as the committee so your concerns are on the official record by email.
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From the NRA-ILA:

Rumor has it that anti-gunners will be traveling in from various parts of the country to participate in this hearing; clearly a coordinated effort that has left the general public in the dark.  This is politics at its worst and a pure abuse of process and power.  We anticipate that various rules will be suspended to allow this secret legislative proposal to pass through both chambers of the Legislature and to the Governor’s desk in a matter of hours.  It’s critical that gun owners across the state of Nevada contact their legislators immediately and voice opposition to this secretive process that will result in the restriction of your rights!  Please also consider attending the hearing either at the Capitol Building in Carson City or the Grant Sawyer Building in Las Vegas.  Public comment time will be afforded.

While the language of the yet to be introduced bill has remained secret, it is anticipated that it will be an attempt to implement the flawed background check initiative.  One of the major problems with legislating through initiative is that it does not allow for public input; however, based on this tactic, the message is clear: Anti-gunners don’t want input.  They want more restrictions on law-abiding citizens.
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Link Posted: 2/8/2019 9:09:45 AM EDT
[#44]
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HERE IT COMES! From Senator Settelmeyer:

From the NRA-ILA:
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I sent an email to the Assembly Committee.

The Senate website sucks and I can't find an email!ail for that committee manager.

I am not able to attend the meeting.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 1:50:11 PM EDT
[#45]
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I spent quite some time trying to track down some verifiable references on how technology is countering repeats of 1 October, and most are either only available to paid subscribers (I even tried using Outline.com but even that wouldn't work all the time) or are so obscure that none of my Search-Fu attempts were sharp enough to find them.

However, there are some tidbits worth reading through and following up on.

First up is the success of LVMPD (Las Vegas Metro Police) use of acoustic-based gunfire detection in northeast part of valley, in crime-ridden neighborhoods:
https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/las-vegas-police-to-continue-gunshot-detection-program-in-2019-1537857/

http://www.clarkcountynv.gov/public-communications/news/Pages/Metro,-Clark-County-Announce-Implementation-of-Gunfire-Detection-and-Alert-Technology-to-Fight-Urban-Gun-Crime.aspx

LVMPD uses ShotSpotter on the Strip:
https://www.fox5vegas.com/news/shotspotter-locates-nearly-las-vegas-gunshots-in-year/article_c029d0c4-f361-11e8-ab91-57775d1414ac.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/10/gunfire-detection-systems-see-renewed-interest-after-las-vegas-tragedy.html

https://www.shotspotter.com/cities/

As most hotels/casinos don't want their security methods well-known and desire to keep their methods discrete, here are some tidbits for the Westgate Hotel:
https://www.wired.com/story/the-las-vegas-resort-using-microwaves-to-keep-guns-out-of-its-casino/

https://bearingarms.com/micah-r/2017/12/11/las-vegas-casino-will-use-new-technology-to-detect-prohibited-weapons/

The Wynn & Encore use a similar system currently, but I haven't been able to confirm details other than seeing it in action first-hand (their plain-clothes security details confront and remove those who are suspected of CCW on property).  Supposedly they have former/retired SF/Seals as part of their "quick response teams" as well as in many of their security ranks, but again I haven't been able to confirm this.

There is a strong desire to keep the exact methods and equipment used as discrete and unknown as possible; most of these I've seen first-hand in action since 1 October.

But reading through these articles gives you a good sense of how Clark County and LVMPD are already claiming success over "gun violence" by utilizing technology.

Other methods include increasing intelligence sharing between LE & Intel agencies, and LVMPD ramping up their "Safe Strip" program....the Safe Strip program utilizes uniformed LVMPD officers in high visibility roles on the Strip; most of this involves overtime as LVMPD simply does not have the manpower to fully staff it otherwise.

Hopefully this will get some good starts for letters to our reps.
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Thanks for putting the legwork into this.  I have been short on spare time.
Will review prior to our Lincoln Day Dinner and share with people in a position to help.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 9:29:01 PM EDT
[#46]
More evidence worth mentioning:

California's comprehensive background check and misdemeanor violence prohibition policies and firearm mortality

The simultaneous implementation of CBC (comprehensive background checks) and MVP policies was not associated with a net change in the firearm homicide rate over the ensuing 10 years in California. The decrease in firearm suicides in California was similar to the decrease in nonfirearm suicides in that state. Results were robust across multiple model specifications and methods.
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Link Posted: 2/10/2019 12:16:45 AM EDT
[#47]
Got an email from NVFAC.org with a template letter to send to all the NV representatives. Didn't see it already posted here so I am sharing to make it easy to contact all state reps regarding this sham of a session scheduled for Tuesday.

If you haven't already done so, PLEASE fill out the form and send off the letter, and then share the hell out of it with other Nevadans.

http://engage.nvfac.org/app/write-a-letter?6&engagementId=496473

Also, if possible, please consider showing up for the meeting scheduled for 8am Tuesday morning at either at the Capitol Building in Carson City or the Grant Sawyer Building in Las Vegas.  Public comment time will be afforded. According to people who attended the NVFAC meeting about this earlier this evening, pro gun supporters are planning to meet up in the parking lot at 7am. Apparently, last time they pulled something like this, the microphone mysteriously stopped working when it was time for pro 2A supporters to speak.
Link Posted: 2/10/2019 12:55:04 AM EDT
[#48]
I'll be at the Grant Sawyer Building on Tuesday morning. If any of you have any questions or need help, send me a PM and I'll help. I can give one other person a ride to the building if they need it.
Link Posted: 2/10/2019 2:01:45 AM EDT
[#49]
I’ll be there also, coming in from NLV. Anyone needs or wants to ride along LMK.
Link Posted: 2/10/2019 6:17:17 AM EDT
[#50]
I wont be able to be there but I have sent e-mails to my clark county state rep and senator on this. I also joined and sent some money to NVFAC and became a lifetime member of GOA and 2nd amendment foundation. Sadly I work the day of the hearing but il be rooting for all you that make it.
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