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Posted: 8/28/2022 11:24:14 AM EDT
Warning for those traveling to/through NY, or flying out of NY airports, with firearms. NY's new oppressive and unconstitional firearm laws go into effect on September 1. They have a very expansive list of banned places that includes airports. They also have a new unattended vehicle storage statute that applies to all firearms in addition to mandating guns be transported out of sight while in vehicles. For vehicle storage it is different than what CT mandates.

It is not clear how these new laws will affect those who fly out of or through NY airports with firearms. From the way it's worded it seems like one can no longer fly out/in of NY airports with firearms. That is, among the rest of this unconstitional mess, is liable to generate a federal lawsuit.

NYS FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS REGARDING RECENT CHANGES TO NEW YORK STATE FIREARM LAWS
https://www.criminaljustice.ny.gov/pio/New-Gun-Law-FAQ-8-27-22.pdf

NYS Department of Environmental Conservation Frequently Asked Questions Regarding Recent Changes to New York State Firearm Laws
https://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/wildlife_pdf/gunfaq2022.pdf

The NY law passed in the wake of Bruen: https://legislation.nysenate.gov/pdf/bills/2021/s51001

NY AG Understanding Recent Changes to New York’s Gun Laws
https://ag.ny.gov/new-york-gun-laws

The NY statute defines "sensitive location" as follows:

§ 265.01-e Criminal possession of a firearm, rifle or shotgun in a sensitive location.
1. A person is guilty of criminal possession of a firearm, rifle or shotgun in a sensitive location when such person possesses a firearm, rifle or shotgun in or upon a sensitive location, and such person knows or reasonably should know such location is a sensitive location.
2. For the purposes of this section, a sensitive location shall mean:
(a) any place owned or under the control of federal, state or local government, for the purpose of government administration, including courts;
(b) any location providing health, behavioral health, or chemical dependance care or services;
(c) any place of worship or religious observation;
(d) libraries, public playgrounds, public parks, and zoos;
(e) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, funded, or approved by the office of children and family services that provides services to children, youth, or young adults, any legally exempt childcare provider; a childcare program for which a permit to operate such program has been issued by the department of health and mental hygiene pursuant to the health code of the city of New York;
(f) nursery schools, preschools, and summer camps;
(g) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, operated, or funded by the office for people with developmental disabilities;
(h) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, operated, or funded by office of addiction services and supports;
(i) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, operated, or funded by the office of mental health;
(j) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, operated, or funded by the office of temporary and disability assistance;
(k) homeless shelters, runaway homeless youth shelters, family shelters, shelters for adults, domestic violence shelters, and emergency shelters, and residential programs for victims of domestic violence;
(l) residential settings licensed, certified, regulated, funded, or operated by the department of health;
(m) in or upon any building or grounds, owned or leased, of any educational institutions, colleges and universities, licensed private career schools, school districts, public schools, private schools licensed under article one hundred one of the education law, charter schools, non-public schools, board of cooperative educational services, special act schools, preschool special education programs, private residential or non-residential schools for the education of students with disabili ties, and any state-operated or state-supported schools;
(n) any place, conveyance, or vehicle used for public transportation or public transit, subway cars, train cars, buses, ferries, railroad, omnibus, marine or aviation transportation; or any facility used for or in connection with service in the transportation of passengers, airports, train stations, subway and rail stations, and bus terminals;
(o) any establishment issued a license for on-premise consumption pursuant to article four, four-A, five, or six of the alcoholic beverage control law where alcohol is consumed and any establishment licensed under article four of the cannabis law for on-premise consumption;
(p) any place used for the performance, art entertainment, gaming, or sporting events such as theaters, stadiums, racetracks, museums, amusement parks, performance venues, concerts, exhibits, conference centers, banquet halls, and gaming facilities and video lottery terminal facilities as licensed by the gaming commission;
(q) any location being used as a polling place;
(r) any public sidewalk or other public area restricted from general public access for a limited time or special event that has been issued a permit for such time or event by a governmental entity, or subject to specific, heightened law enforcement protection, or has otherwise had such access restricted by a governmental entity, provided such location is identified as such by clear and conspicuous signage;
(s) any gathering of individuals to collectively express their constitutional rights to protest or assemble;
(t) the area commonly known as Times Square, as such area is determined and identified by the city of New York; provided such area shallbe clearly and conspicuously identified with signage.
3. This section shall not apply to:
(a) consistent with federal law, law enforcement who qualify to carry under the federal law enforcement officers safety act, 18 U.S.C. 926C;
(b) persons who are police officers as defined in subdivision thirty-four of section 1.20 of the criminal procedure law;
(c) persons who are designated peace officers by section 2.10 of the criminal procedure law;
(d) persons who were employed as police officers as defined in subdivision thirty-four of section 1.20 of the criminal procedure law but are retired;
(e) security guards as defined by and registered under article seven-A of the general business law, who have been granted a special armed registration card, while at the location of their employment and during their work hours as such a security guard;
(f) active-duty military personnel;
(g) persons licensed under paragraph (c), (d) or (e) of subdivision two of section 400.00 of this chapter while in the course of his or her official duties;
(h) a government employee under the express written consent of such employee's supervising government entity for the purposes of natural resource protection and management;
(i) persons lawfully engaged in hunting activity, including hunter education training; or
(j) persons operating a program in a sensitive location out of their residence, as defined by this section, which is licensed, certified, authorized, or funded by the state or a municipality, so long as such possession is in compliance with any rules or regulations applicable to the operation of such program and use or storage of firearms.
Criminal possession of a firearm, rifle or shotgun in a sensitive location is a class E felony.
The updated NY vehicle storage language now includes very specific language about the container used to store the firearm. The new vehicle storage language:

2. No person shall store or otherwise leave a rifle, shotgun, or firearm out of his or her immediate possession or control inside a vehicle without first removing the ammunition from and securely locking such rifle, shotgun, or firearm in an appropriate safe storage depository out of sight from outside of the vehicle.
3. For purposes of this section "safe storage depository" shall mean a safe or other secure container which, when locked, is incapable of being opened without the key, keypad, combination or other unlocking mechanism and is capable of preventing an unauthorized person from obtaining access to and possession of the weapon contained therein and shall be fire, impact, and tamper resistant. Nothing in this section shall be deemed to affect, impair or supersede any special or local act relating to the safe storage of rifles, shotguns or firearms which impose additional requirements on the owner or custodian of such weapons. For the purposes of subdivision two of this section, a glove compartment or glove box shall not be considered an appropriate safe storage depository.
Link Posted: 8/28/2022 1:44:40 PM EDT
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Hard to tell who is more oppressive, NY or CA. They compete for first anti-2A prize every single day.  I think it's a shameless tie for now.
Link Posted: 8/28/2022 5:14:59 PM EDT
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Hard to tell who is more oppressive, NY or CA. They compete for first anti-2A prize every single day.  I think it's a shameless tie for now.
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Question is, does Ned want to be left out of the club? Guess we'll find out at the start of next legislative session (next year).

Seems like a contest between the three (NY, CA, CT) to see who can outdo each other when it comes to anti gun laws.
Link Posted: 8/28/2022 6:31:12 PM EDT
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Question is, does Ned want to be left out of the club? Guess we'll find out at the start of next legislative session (next year).

Seems like a contest between the three (NY, CA, CT) to see who can outdo each other when it comes to anti gun laws.
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So true.....
Link Posted: 8/28/2022 7:33:55 PM EDT
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Question is, does Ned want to be left out of the club? Guess we'll find out at the start of next legislative session (next year).

Seems like a contest between the three (NY, CA, CT) to see who can outdo each other when it comes to anti gun laws.
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But, but, bu....  what is if Bob Stefanawhatever wins?  What then?  He's my pro 2A hero.


Link Posted: 8/28/2022 9:00:28 PM EDT
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Question is, does Ned want to be left out of the club? Guess we'll find out at the start of next legislative session (next year).

Seems like a contest between the three (NY, CA, CT) to see who can outdo each other when it comes to anti gun laws.
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I believe MA is more likely to join the CA-NY club, and so is NJ.  I am also confident CT under Ned is cozying up to join the oppressors club.  The biggest question of all is whether state and circuit courts have the slightest integrity as  they ought to strike down any attempt to infringe further post-Bruen.
Link Posted: 8/28/2022 9:45:35 PM EDT
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These new laws are shit, but everybody I know that lives in NY flies out of BDL if they're bringing handguns anywhere, even with NY permits.
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