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Attempt to ban “assault weapons”

@Miami_JBT
Do you have any info on this communist movement?

Word was that the Gun Grabbers were gonna try this if they lost the elections here in Florida. This is something I expected.

Crazy Talk, Florida got a state constitutional right to bear arms clause.

Here's the direct website.

https://www.bawnfl.org

Does a constitutional amendment trump the state constitution??

State Right to Bear Arms in Florida. Article I, § 8(a) of the Florida Constitution provides: “[t]he right of the people to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves and of the lawful authority of the state shall not be infringed, except that the manner of bearing arms may be regulated by law.”

Steering Committee

Congressman Ted Deutch, Parkland
Mayor Skip Campbell, Coral Springs

Committee Members

Gail Schwartz, Chair, aunt of Alex Schachter, murdered on 2/14/18 in Parkland
Mayra Alvear, mother of Amanda, murdered on 6/12/16 at Pulse
Patricia Brigham, President of Florida League of Women Voters and former co-chair of Florida Coalition to Prevent Gun Violence
Hon. Paula Dockery, former Republican State Senator from Lakeland, FL
Annika and Mitch Dworet, parents of Nicholas, murdered in 2/14/18 Parkland
Jeffrey Foster, Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School AP American Government teacher, escaped with 30 students
Eden Hebron, student survivor of Parkland shooting, witnessed the murder of three classmates
Debbi Hixon, widow of Chris Hixon, murdered on 2/14/18 in Parkland
Robert W. Kelley, Founding Partner at Kelley/Uustal
Christine Leinonen, mother of Drew Leinonen, murdered on 6/12/16 at Pulse
Philip Schentrup, father of Carmen Schentrup, murdered on 2/14/18 in Parkland
Hon. Philip Shailer, former Republican State Attorney for Broward County, FL
Brandon Wolf, survivor of Pulse

They are paparpapart of ActBlue.

They would be amending the State Constitution. Much like how the 18th Amendment (Prohibition) was repealed by the 21st Amendment.

No, a constitutional amendment IS the constitution (revised)!

The interesting problem for the drafters of any such amendment will be to specifically replace article 1, 8(a) with NEW language...  otherwise the amendment will conflict with 1, 8(a) and a review of the amendment by the Florida Supreme Court would result in the amendment being pulled from the ballot on constitutional grounds...

Should be an interesting 2 years...

A constitutional amendment is being proposed for the state’s 2020 ballot that would  ban semiautomatic firearms in Florida. The petition drive and effort is being pushed by a Miami based organization known as Ban Assault Weapons NØW (BAWN) and they have some big names in their corner. A former Republican member of the Florida Senate is part of their committee of course to give it that bipartisan feel.



Their mission statement is simple;

According to the Tampa Bay Times, the group has raised nearly $410,000 since March, while spending almost $284,000, according to finance information. The expenditures included $75,000 last month to a California-based company for what was described in the finance information as “petitions.”

My own research into BAWN shows that they have a lengthy donation record through the Florida Department of State records.

Additionally, they are part of ActBlue. A nonprofit technology organization established in June 2004 that enables Democrats, progressive groups, and nonprofits to raise money on the internet by providing them with online fundraising software. Its stated mission is to “empower small-dollar donors”. Basically it is a Leftist GoFundMe for political causes.

Here is the actual petition.





If this petition gets enough signatures, is placed on the ballot, and passed in 2020. It would make any semi-automatic long gun in Florida with a capacity of ten rounds or more an “assault weapon” and ban them for future sale or possession. Additionally, it would require that Floridians register their firearms with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement. Failure to do so or possession after the grace period would be a third degree felony and that would automatically strip Floridians of their Second Amendment Rights. Furthermore, this would also invalidate Florida Criminal Statute 790.335 and 790.336. The prohibition on registration and keeping of lists/records.

Additionally, another more radical ballot measure is being proposed by Stop The Killing. Their goal is to outright ban the ownership of firearms in Florida.  A search of their financial records show that they for the most part haven’t had any support. But their mission statement is plain as day.



The actual petition can be read in full here.



This if passed would basically strip Floridians of any meaningful firearm.

In the end, the Gun Grabbers haven’t quit and even though they didn’t gain control of the Governor’s office. They do have the Commissioner of Agriculture & Consumer Services’ seat and that controls Florida’s concealed carry weapon permit system. And I bet you that incoming commissioner Nikki Freid will use her office as a bully pulpit to support one of these ballot measures.

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So are they going to bankrupt themselves compensating FL gun owners for their property? That $410,000 wouldn't even put a dent in some peoples' collections. Lawsuits need to be started now. The thing is, I know of no one other than Miami_JBT who is showing any sort of commitment to countering this movement and no organization that I can participate in that shows any commitment.

The funding is for their campaign. Not for paying Floridians for their property.

That is up to the State.

That's sortof what I was getting at. They're campaigning to set the state up for significant financial liability and have raised money for their campaign. I have money, time and expertise that I would donate against this movement if there was an organization that I felt represented direct opposition. I don't think the NRA is very efficient with how they handle their donations and I believe their operations are still stuck in the 1990s.

I believe the correct approach is to simply inform people as to what the left is doing. I watched thousands of people protest against the NRA and guns across my front porch earlier this year. They were enraged and passionate. I don't think there's any changing their minds with facts, but I also think they're a highly organized small subset of the general population that we definitely don't need or want making decisions for us.

Dope is also gaining some serious capital too for their petition.

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This will get the Leftist vote out in force. Plus the Presidential Election and the fact that felons now have the right to vote.

GOOD GRIEF Charlie Brown

Posted on TTAG - Two Proposed Florida Ballot Measures Would Require Registration, Ban Most Semi-Automatic Firearms

Wow the timing could be awful...

2020 presidential election, AWB, and legalized weed?  That ought to get the lefties out to the polls in full force..

I think that Trump should just go ahead and give the wacky weed - take the wind out of their sails on that issue...also would just dumb down their base.

tax the shit out of it and empty out the prisons for the minor offences - then keep on trucking.

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This is actually not good at all, considering what happened with every single amendment that was on the ballots in the midtems, every single one passed with over 60% of the votes. This "assault weapon" ban would have passed with no issues if it had been on the ballots!

So much for the Florida League of Women Voters being nonpartisan.

Before this stupid ballot proposal came out, I was fully in favor of a ballot initiative banning ballot initiatives, no reason we can’t get behind something like that, the Florida constitution needs to be amended to end this direct democracy nonsense, too many ill informed voters out there.

Negative ghost rider, amendment 1 was not passed (homestead exemption).  It missed by a small percentage.
Having said that, you are correct, it is a scary situation as most voters have zero idea as to what the proposed amendments actually say before voting on them............they only believe what is shown on TV ads instead of actually finding out what an amendment is all about.

We  never seem to have pro-gun stuff like this ever.  I hope there's something in the works to combat this.

Pretty much the only amendment I really wanted to pass (I did vote yes on several) failed, that blew my mind.

The ballet amendments are nothing more the mob rule.  Most folks are uninformed useful idiots.

So what group is gearing up to fight this?  I’ve got spare time to help.

There should be an amendment to end this ballot bull shit. Whats ever passed that's been good for any of us? This shits getting out of control.

Right now I've spread the word to FL Carry and GOA. Even sent it to NRA. Also Adam Kraut (Supermoose) will be discussing it on his YouTube show, The Gun Collective.

amending the Florida Constitution based on the most Face Book likes has always been insane.   If this dog's breakfast of a proposal gets on the ballot,  it will pass.  Floridians seem to pass virtually every amendment.

I blame the florida legislature completely for these amendments.

Awesome, thanks for the work.  Please let me know if I can be of help.  I used to live in Tallahassee and still have friends up there to crash at if we need to be at the capital.

The $$$ is for them, not compensating people.  
Their ultimate goal is to have everything banned.
Scenario:  it passes, people say FU I'm not registering s***t, they get caught and convicted (3rd degree felony), now you're a convicted felon, gun rights gone, they win.
At least you'd be able to vote ??

I'm on BAWN's email list. Just got this today.



The links in the email lead to ActBlue, a crowdfunding website for Leftist Political Causes.

We all need to join this organization to be kept informed, to bleed their mailing budget dry, spam their e-mail and crash their petition signing parties. If we are subversive as hell we can infiltrate them and wreck their movement.

If your gonna go the subterfuge route, why not consider posting this idea to 4chan(/pol in particular) Not too sure if you want that kind of help or not, but that group over there seems to be against anything the left pushes. I wish you guys in FL all the best...lord knows we in VA can expect some kind of trouble from the anti's soon :(

And this crap is precisely what you get with a 'Democracy".

And is precisely the circumstance that our founders tried to short circuit with the Electoral College.................less a republican form of government you achieve merely tyranny of the majority.

Fuck 'em all..............Montana is lookin' good.

I'm all for this, but know nothing about 4chan... lol

Guess its time to get serious about an 80 lower...

Latest email from them this morning.

Soon enough all this stuff will be as illegal as a post-86 machine-gun.

Any updates on efforts to fight this from the NRA, GOA, etc.? Also if anyone knows of a way I can pitch in to help the efforts to combat this nonsense, please let me know. More than willing to use my free time and experience. I have a background in public policy.

I have GOA informed. FL Carry is keeping an eye on this too.

BAWN sent an email out on the 31st. It said the following.

With just hours to go until our year-end deadline, we're still $5,382 short of the $25,000 we need to fund our efforts in 2019. We can only close this gap and have enough to ban assault weapons in Florida if grassroots supporters like you rush an immediate donation.

Has the NRA come out in support of it yet?

Thanks for the update. From the donation amounts, it would appear to me that it is a very small movement. As of right now, i would think this has very little chance of making it on the ballot. Although what does concern me is if it does, people tend to vote yes on amendments without the slightest clue on what they mean. I have serious doubts that an amendment like this could hold up to a challenge in a court, even if it is passed. But, we need to keep monitoring this.

Huge thanks to those of you who have embedded yourself in that orgs email list. I would pop a blood vessel if i had to read that garbage in my inbox.

That have some serious backers.