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Posted: 12/11/2018 11:56:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/12/2018 5:27:53 AM EDT
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they're coming. |
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Posted: 12/12/2018 10:48:54 AM EDT
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Best of luck gents. I just caught wind of this a few minutes ago.
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Posted: 12/12/2018 10:49:52 AM EDT
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Just imagine this pic in black and white.
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Posted: 12/13/2018 12:53:47 AM EDT
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Just imagine this pic in black and white. http://www.burlingtoncountytimes.com/storyimage/PA/20130815/NEWS/308159701/AR/0/AR-308159701.jpghttp://www.bushywood.com/history/Nazi_Party_Pollitics_Germany_WWII/Pictures_Nazi_Germany_World_War_Two/Gestapo-Heinrich-Himmler-Secret-Police-Germany-Nazis.jpg 
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Posted: 12/13/2018 6:52:38 AM EDT
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The uniform looks pretty good on me Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just imagine this pic in black and white. http://www.burlingtoncountytimes.com/storyimage/PA/20130815/NEWS/308159701/AR/0/AR-308159701.jpghttp://www.bushywood.com/history/Nazi_Party_Pollitics_Germany_WWII/Pictures_Nazi_Germany_World_War_Two/Gestapo-Heinrich-Himmler-Secret-Police-Germany-Nazis.jpg When asked about house to house enforcement the only answer the NJSP should have given was "absolutely not". Nothing good will comes from that practice. |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 3:05:17 PM EDT
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Gee, you're such a fashion statement. When asked about house to house enforcement the only answer the NJSP should have given was "absolutely not". Nothing good will comes from that practice. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just imagine this pic in black and white. http://www.burlingtoncountytimes.com/storyimage/PA/20130815/NEWS/308159701/AR/0/AR-308159701.jpghttp://www.bushywood.com/history/Nazi_Party_Pollitics_Germany_WWII/Pictures_Nazi_Germany_World_War_Two/Gestapo-Heinrich-Himmler-Secret-Police-Germany-Nazis.jpg When asked about house to house enforcement the only answer the NJSP should have given was "absolutely not". Nothing good will comes from that practice. Nothing, because you wouldn't even have heard about it. A NJ cop saying he won't enforce the laws of an anti-gun majority government would get him buried quickly, and soon he'd join the ranks of freedom loving gun owners in NJ who sit in their basements and complain about gun laws on the internet and let these laws take hold in the first place. |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 6:34:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/13/2018 7:20:47 PM EDT
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Stolen from the Dank memes thread:
 
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Posted: 12/14/2018 6:36:18 AM EDT
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Think hard about it for a second: what would have happened if he said "absolutely not"? Nothing, because you wouldn't even have heard about it. A NJ cop saying he won't enforce the laws of an anti-gun majority government would get him buried quickly, and soon he'd join the ranks of freedom loving gun owners in NJ who sit in their basements and complain about gun laws on the internet and let these laws take hold in the first place. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just imagine this pic in black and white. http://www.burlingtoncountytimes.com/storyimage/PA/20130815/NEWS/308159701/AR/0/AR-308159701.jpghttp://www.bushywood.com/history/Nazi_Party_Pollitics_Germany_WWII/Pictures_Nazi_Germany_World_War_Two/Gestapo-Heinrich-Himmler-Secret-Police-Germany-Nazis.jpg When asked about house to house enforcement the only answer the NJSP should have given was "absolutely not". Nothing good will comes from that practice. Nothing, because you wouldn't even have heard about it. A NJ cop saying he won't enforce the laws of an anti-gun majority government would get him buried quickly, and soon he'd join the ranks of freedom loving gun owners in NJ who sit in their basements and complain about gun laws on the internet and let these laws take hold in the first place. There it is again, the NJSP making up their rules. Or do the stupid ass politicians think that is what is going to happen? That is what they want to have happen at the expense of civilian liberties and LEO morality to further their agenda. Pretty sure there are a lot of LEO in NJ who do not even want to consider participating in this type of action. Nothing good will come of this practice except satisfying the the political and leftist elite. ETA: It may not be up to the NJSP whether or not the door to door will be enforces. Appears the NJ AG can make that call. Imperial March Ammoland article |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 6:43:41 PM EDT
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Tell me where in the new law it states house to house enforcement will be implemented? It's doesn't! There it is again, the NJSP making up their rules. Or do the stupid ass politicians think that is what is going to happen? That is what they want to have happen at the expense of civilian liberties and LEO morality to further their agenda. Pretty sure there are a lot of LEO in NJ who do not even want to consider participating in this type of action. Nothing good will come of this practice except satisfying the the political and leftist elite. ETA: It may not be up to the NJSP whether or not the door to door will be enforces. Appears the NJ AG can make that call. Imperial March Ammoland article Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just imagine this pic in black and white. http://www.burlingtoncountytimes.com/storyimage/PA/20130815/NEWS/308159701/AR/0/AR-308159701.jpghttp://www.bushywood.com/history/Nazi_Party_Pollitics_Germany_WWII/Pictures_Nazi_Germany_World_War_Two/Gestapo-Heinrich-Himmler-Secret-Police-Germany-Nazis.jpg When asked about house to house enforcement the only answer the NJSP should have given was "absolutely not". Nothing good will comes from that practice. Nothing, because you wouldn't even have heard about it. A NJ cop saying he won't enforce the laws of an anti-gun majority government would get him buried quickly, and soon he'd join the ranks of freedom loving gun owners in NJ who sit in their basements and complain about gun laws on the internet and let these laws take hold in the first place. There it is again, the NJSP making up their rules. Or do the stupid ass politicians think that is what is going to happen? That is what they want to have happen at the expense of civilian liberties and LEO morality to further their agenda. Pretty sure there are a lot of LEO in NJ who do not even want to consider participating in this type of action. Nothing good will come of this practice except satisfying the the political and leftist elite. ETA: It may not be up to the NJSP whether or not the door to door will be enforces. Appears the NJ AG can make that call. Imperial March Ammoland article |
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Posted: 12/15/2018 5:20:02 PM EDT
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You're arguing with yourself; the NJSP statement didn't say yes or no to confiscation. Quote HistoryQuoted:
You're arguing with yourself; the NJSP statement didn't say yes or no to confiscation. Quoted:
You're arguing with yourself; the NJSP statement didn't say yes or no to confiscation. |
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Posted: 12/15/2018 8:44:26 PM EDT
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Quoted: Sun Tzu: Never signal your intentions to your enemy, the less they know the better. <-- Therefore why would the NJSP or Local Popo tell you jack shit about what their intentions are, true or BS. |
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Posted: 12/15/2018 10:41:53 PM EDT
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Interesting
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Posted: 12/16/2018 6:06:46 AM EDT
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The fact that you think the police consider you “the enemy” explains a lot.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Sun Tzu: Never signal your intentions to your enemy, the less they know the better. <-- Therefore why would the NJSP or Local Popo tell you jack shit about what their intentions are, true or BS. If you are trying to tell us the police operate on the same presumption of innocence, I'm telling you, you are full of it. Police operate on the presumption of guilt, hence they are adversarial. Not saying they are enemies, however I do not trust them as their tactics reply on this presumption of guilt and well as lying and manipulation during the course of an investigation. |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 8:00:14 AM EDT
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The uniform looks pretty good on me Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just imagine this pic in black and white. http://www.burlingtoncountytimes.com/storyimage/PA/20130815/NEWS/308159701/AR/0/AR-308159701.jpghttp://www.bushywood.com/history/Nazi_Party_Pollitics_Germany_WWII/Pictures_Nazi_Germany_World_War_Two/Gestapo-Heinrich-Himmler-Secret-Police-Germany-Nazis.jpg |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 10:58:28 AM EDT
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The amount of man power/money it would cost to go door to door cant see it happening. I'm sure we will get some type of letter in the mail (we know who you are) that we better have complied or got rid of banned mags.
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Posted: 12/16/2018 12:52:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The presumption of innocence is for the court of law, ya know innocent until "proven" guilty. If you are trying to tell us the police operate on the same presumption of innocence, I'm telling you, you are full of it. Police operate on the presumption of guilt, hence they are adversarial. Not saying they are enemies, however I do not trust them as their tactics reply on this presumption of guilt and well as lying and manipulation during the course of an investigation. |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:40:20 PM EDT
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The fact that you think the police consider you “the enemy” explains a lot.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Sun Tzu: Never signal your intentions to your enemy, the less they know the better. <-- Therefore why would the NJSP or Local Popo tell you jack shit about what their intentions are, true or BS. |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 3:16:41 PM EDT
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I’m not going to engage, I don’t think it I would be good for anyone, but I’d love to know what experiences you’ve had personally in which you were arrested for something you didn’t do. Just give us one example of your own experience, as it seems you have many to choose from with the confidence in your statement. To make it easy, since there are probably so many, just give us the cliff notes from the last time you got locked up for something you didn’t do and the cops lied, presumed you guilty and then lied and manipulated the investigation to prove it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: The presumption of innocence is for the court of law, ya know innocent until "proven" guilty. If you are trying to tell us the police operate on the same presumption of innocence, I'm telling you, you are full of it. Police operate on the presumption of guilt, hence they are adversarial. Not saying they are enemies, however I do not trust them as their tactics reply on this presumption of guilt and well as lying and manipulation during the course of an investigation. |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 4:27:03 PM EDT
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The fact that you think the police consider you "the enemy" explains a lot.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Sun Tzu: Never signal your intentions to your enemy, the less they know the better. <-- Therefore why would the NJSP or Local Popo tell you jack shit about what their intentions are, true or BS. |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 10:16:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For someone who does not want to engage anymore , you sure do want a lot of information.................Hmmmmm.............manipulation? |
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Posted: 12/23/2018 1:21:59 PM EDT
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Does the word "search warrant" mean anything?
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Posted: 12/24/2018 9:13:26 PM EDT
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1,000,000 Gun Owners Refuse to Obey Ban
According to Ammoland.com, who says they spoke with multiple police departments throughout the state, no one has turned in their magazines. According to the report: Two sources from within the State Police, who spoke to AmmoLand on condition of anonymity, told AmmoLand News that they both do not know of any magazines turned over to their agency and doubted that any were turned in. They also stated that the State Police also engaged the AG’s office for guidance on how to respond to inquiries such as ours. They were unaware if the Attorney General has returned to their request for guidance. All the local police departments that AmmoLand contacted stated that they have not had any magazines turned into them. AmmoLand has filed a Freedom of Information Act request with The New Jersey State Police to get an official count of the number of magazines turned in by New Jersey citizens. We will update the story if our FOIA request is fulfilled. This act of disobedience is the only way that law-abiding citizens can effectively and peacefully fight back against the gun grabbers. And so far, it has been effective. SCORE: HOME TEAM 1,000,000 TYRANNICAL VISITORS -0- Q: You have 10 thirty round magazines that THE STATE says you should turn in. How many magazines would you have left after THE STATE demands you turn them in? A: 10--don't turn ANY in. 
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Posted: 12/25/2018 5:57:55 AM EDT
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Here is a great comment I read on another forum board:
Author: Conrad Wolgreen Comment: Here's how this law can be defeated non-violently. First, New Jersey gun owners should always agree to serve as jurors. Second, they should inform themselves of the rights that jurors have in judging both the facts and the law. Third, if a gun owner is charged with violating this statute, refuse to convict. Vote "not guilty." If jurors refuse to convict people of violating this law, it will cease being used. You have the power to nullify this law if you have the courage to do so. |
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Posted: 12/26/2018 1:01:49 PM EDT
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Here is a great comment I read on another forum board: Author: Conrad Wolgreen Comment: Here's how this law can be defeated non-violently. First, New Jersey gun owners should always agree to serve as jurors. Second, they should inform themselves of the rights that jurors have in judging both the facts and the law. Third, if a gun owner is charged with violating this statute, refuse to convict. Vote "not guilty." If jurors refuse to convict people of violating this law, it will cease being used. You have the power to nullify this law if you have the courage to do so. While we may all agree on the concept of simple refusal to convict, in NJ, with a firearm involved criminal case proceeding, any gun owners will likely be dismissed during voir dire for possible prejudice.... hell, I was dismissed form the jury pool in a murder case simply because ONE of the arresting officers handles the firearms permits for the town I lived in and as a result I had contact with him twice... |
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Posted: 12/26/2018 7:11:02 PM EDT
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Here is a great comment I read on another forum board: Author: Conrad Wolgreen Comment: Here's how this law can be defeated non-violently. First, New Jersey gun owners should always agree to serve as jurors. Second, they should inform themselves of the rights that jurors have in judging both the facts and the law. Third, if a gun owner is charged with violating this statute, refuse to convict. Vote "not guilty." If jurors refuse to convict people of violating this law, it will cease being used. You have the power to nullify this law if you have the courage to do so. You think a bunch of 2A defenders are going to let a child rapist walk on his entire case because of a mag law they don't agree with? |
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Posted: 12/26/2018 10:35:24 PM EDT
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https://www.personaldefenseworld.com/2018/07/new-jersey-gun-confiscation-army-veteran/
I know. I'm an instigator..... 
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Posted: 12/27/2018 4:18:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:In my experience, people charged with violating the mag limit laws in the past were always (again, in my experience) being charged with other things like child porn, murder, rape, robbery, etc.
You think a bunch of 2A defenders are going to let a child rapist walk on his entire case because of a mag law they don't agree with? |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 8:11:52 PM EDT
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In my experience, people charged with violating the mag limit laws in the past were always (again, in my experience) being charged with other things like child porn, murder, rape, robbery, etc. You think a bunch of 2A defenders are going to let a child rapist walk on his entire case because of a mag law they don't agree with? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Here is a great comment I read on another forum board: Author: Conrad Wolgreen Comment: Here's how this law can be defeated non-violently. First, New Jersey gun owners should always agree to serve as jurors. Second, they should inform themselves of the rights that jurors have in judging both the facts and the law. Third, if a gun owner is charged with violating this statute, refuse to convict. Vote "not guilty." If jurors refuse to convict people of violating this law, it will cease being used. You have the power to nullify this law if you have the courage to do so. You think a bunch of 2A defenders are going to let a child rapist walk on his entire case because of a mag law they don't agree with? I wouldn't let the Pedo go cause of it but then again I don't use Rose Colored Glasses. |
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