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Posted: 4/8/2023 7:14:48 AM EDT
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Which part of southern IL? Best overall would be to live in border state and commute if possible. The new ban only includes a 24hr “transportation” period for out of state residents. I am not aware of it addressing relocation.
Maybe locate a nearby gun club and see if they have an attorney they’ll recommend or find a pro2A one and consult. |
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Posted: 4/8/2023 7:37:00 AM EDT
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(c) Except as provided in subsections (d), (e), (f), and 2(h), on or after the effective date of this amendatory Act of 3the 102nd General Assembly, it is unlawful for any person 4within this State to knowingly deliver, sell, or purchase or 5cause to be delivered, sold, or purchased or cause to be 6possessed by another, an assault weapon, assault weapon 7attachment, .50 caliber rifle, or .50 caliber cartridge. 8 (d) Except as otherwise provided in subsections (e), (f), 9and (h), 300 days after the effective date of this amendatory 10Act of the 102nd General Assembly, it is unlawful for any 11person within this State to knowingly possess an assault 12weapon, .50 caliber rifle, or .50 caliber cartridge. 13 (e) This Section does not apply to a person who possessed 14an assault weapon or .50 caliber rifle prohibited by 15subsection (d) of this Section before the effective date of 16this amendatory Act of the 102nd General Assembly, provided 17the person has provided in a registration affidavit, under 18oath or affirmation and in the form and manner prescribed by 19the Illinois State Police on or after 180 days after the 20effective date of this amendatory Act of the 102nd General 21Assembly but within 300 days after the effective date of this 22amendatory Act of the 102nd General Assembly: It says you have to possess it before the law was passed, and register it before the deadline. It doesn't say you had to possess it IN ILLINOIS, just possess it. I don't see how they could jam you up on that, but who knows in this state. Home made lowers are another ball of wax entirely. There is a "ghost gun" law on the books. |
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Posted: 4/8/2023 7:37:33 AM EDT
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Another thread in this hometown forum is Todd Vandermyde's youtube channel FreedomSteel. He puts out frequent videos on where we are in fighting gun laws.
The current ban allows you to own an AR, but not have magazines over 10rd capacity. Pistol mags limited to 12rds (ETA 15). Todd pointed out that this includes mags that can be easily converted to carry more than 12rds(15) (all mags with removable bottom plate). So, the state wants everyone to register their firearms to be allowed to keep and bear arms retroactively, and modify their mags so they cannot be altered/increased. So far, almost every county sherrif has publicly proclaimed that this law will not be enforced because it is clearly unconstitutional. Only the state police have been enforcing it, and those instances only seem to be when FFLs are flagrantly and publicly violating the law. We're looking for property in Missouri. If you are in commuting range, I agree you should live in a free state and drive in for work. |
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Posted: 4/8/2023 7:54:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Another thread in this hometown forum is Todd Vandermyde's youtube channel FreedomSteel. He puts out frequent videos on where we are in fighting gun laws. The current ban allows you to own an AR, but not have magazines over 10rd capacity. Pistol mags limited to 12rds. Todd pointed out that this includes mags that can be easily converted to carry more than 12rds (all mags with removable bottom plate). So, the state wants everyone to register their firearms to be allowed to keep and bear arms retroactively, and modify their mags so they cannot be altered/increased. So far, almost every county sherrif has publicly proclaimed that this law will not be enforced because it is clearly unconstitutional. Only the state police have been enforcing it, and those instances only seem to be when FFLs are flagrantly and publicly violating the law. We're looking for property in Missouri. If you are in commuting range, I agree you should live in a free state and drive in for work. Quote HistoryQuoted: Another thread in this hometown forum is Todd Vandermyde's youtube channel FreedomSteel. He puts out frequent videos on where we are in fighting gun laws. The current ban allows you to own an AR, but not have magazines over 10rd capacity. Pistol mags limited to 12rds. Todd pointed out that this includes mags that can be easily converted to carry more than 12rds (all mags with removable bottom plate). So, the state wants everyone to register their firearms to be allowed to keep and bear arms retroactively, and modify their mags so they cannot be altered/increased. So far, almost every county sherrif has publicly proclaimed that this law will not be enforced because it is clearly unconstitutional. Only the state police have been enforcing it, and those instances only seem to be when FFLs are flagrantly and publicly violating the law. We're looking for property in Missouri. If you are in commuting range, I agree you should live in a free state and drive in for work. This is simply not true. Read the statute. If you already had it you are grandfathered. (d) Subsection (c) does not apply to a person's possession of a large capacity ammunition feeding device if the person lawfully possessed that large capacity ammunition feeding device before the effective date of this amendatory Act of the 102nd General Assembly, provided that the person shall possess such device only: (1) on private property owned or immediately controlled by the person; (2) on private property that is not open to the public with the express permission of the person who owns or immediately controls such property; (3) while on the premises of a licensed firearms dealer or gunsmith for the purpose of lawful repair; (4) while engaged in the legal use of the large capacity ammunition feeding device at a properly licensed firing range or sport shooting competition venue; or (5) while traveling to or from these locations, provided that the large capacity ammunition feeding device is stored unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container. A person authorized under this Section to possess a large capacity ammunition feeding device may transfer the large capacity ammunition feeding device only to an heir, an individual residing in another state maintaining it in another state, or a dealer licensed as a federal firearms dealer under Section 923 of the federal Gun Control Act of 1968. Within 10 days after transfer of the large capacity ammunition feeding device except to an heir, the person shall notify the Illinois State Police of the name and address of the transferee and comply with the requirements of subsection (b) of Section 3 of the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. The person to whom the large capacity ammunition feeding device is transferred shall, within 60 days of the transfer, notify the Illinois State Police of the person's acquisition and comply with the requirements of subsection (b) of Section 3 of the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. A person to whom the large capacity ammunition feeding device is transferred may transfer it only as provided in this subsection. Except as provided in subsections (e) and (f) and beginning 90 days after the effective date of this amendatory Act of the 102nd General Assembly, any person who moves into this State in possession of a large capacity ammunition feeding device shall, within 60 days, apply for a Firearm Owners Identification Card. |
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Posted: 4/8/2023 2:33:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is simply not true. Read the statute. If you already had it you are grandfathered. If you register you will be grandfathered. Also, I think I used an old source when I looked it up. 15 rounds for pistols, not 12. Sorry about that. Mag ban Freedom's Steel |
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Posted: 4/8/2023 3:49:44 PM EDT
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I wish living in one of the surrounding states was an option but sadly that isn't (commute would be too far and unbearable with the amount of work hours for me).
I am thinking that leaving my guns at my parent's place for the mean time till I have this Firearms card and figure some of this out. |
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Posted: 4/9/2023 8:51:15 AM EDT
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Where at in Southern Illinois? That means different things to different people.
Living in far SOIL, I'm seeing a lot more state troopers here lately. I believe there will be a big "enforcement" push going on in the "less enlightened" parts of the state very soon. |
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Posted: 4/9/2023 9:01:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you register you will be grandfathered. Also, I think I used an old source when I looked it up. 15 rounds for pistols, not 12. Sorry about that. Mag ban Freedom's Steel The statute doesn't provide for registration of magazines. I really don't understand what your are saying here, or what relevance Todd's video has to the discussion. "Assault Weapons" previously possessed have to be registered. Hi-Cap mags previously possessed are grandfathered, and the statute does not provide for registration. Todd's video must be referring to purchases of NEW magazines and what will be allowed, because the law doesn't apply to "pre-ban" mags by its plain language. |
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Posted: 4/9/2023 9:40:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The statute doesn't provide for registration of magazines. I really don't understand what your are saying here, or what relevance Todd's video has to the discussion. "Assault Weapons" previously possessed have to be registered. Hi-Cap mags previously possessed are grandfathered, and the statute does not provide for registration. Todd's video must be referring to purchases of NEW magazines and what will be allowed, because the law doesn't apply to "pre-ban" mags by its plain language. I think we're saying the same things but talking past each other. Todd's video points out that the language of the law doesn't allow for most mags in carry situations. Also points out that stores are still selling them because no one is really paying attention to the details of the law. How will you determine "NEW" mags from "pre-ban" mags? I'm just hoping these law suits shut the whole act down and hold onto a bit of freedom. |
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Posted: 4/12/2023 1:03:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wish living in one of the surrounding states was an option but sadly that isn't (commute would be too far and unbearable with the amount of work hours for me). I am thinking that leaving my guns at my parent's place for the mean time till I have this Firearms card and figure some of this out. Hey ARF ... the OPs first post was 17 yrs after he joined while living in WA, and the next day he posted from NV ... while relocating to IL ... Just sayin' ... |
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Posted: 4/16/2023 9:46:08 PM EDT
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17 Years ago I was stationed in Wa, then I was overseas for a long time, now I am retired taking a vacation with my parents that I haven't seen for a decade plus and recently got a job in Il. I may be looking for information on laws and stuff for a more restrictive state then I am used to or I am an agent of the AFT looking for dogs to shoot. Your choice.
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Posted: 4/17/2023 8:26:33 AM EDT
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Honestly dude I would find a different job. Stay the f*** away from the state it's only going to get worse.
I know it's probably an improvement from Washington but it'll get there eventually. Chicago runs entire state |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 9:42:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Honestly dude I would find a different job. Stay the f*** away from the state it's only going to get worse. I know it's probably an improvement from Washington but it'll get there eventually. Chicago runs entire state This is hard to read because it is true. Chicago used to be 'the city that works' and they just replaced Mayor Lightfoot with a former Teacher Union leader. Imagine how fked up an entire city the size of Chicago will become if allowed to run like the public school system. And yet there are legit good people in Chicagoland and outside The City - and a lot of them. Unfortunately, as long as Chicago is allowed to set policy, the situation will deteriorate and smart people will continue to exit the state. Look at Detroit for the roadmap ?? |
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