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Posted: 1/10/2022 3:00:27 PM EDT
[#1]
Winters vary. Last winter we were buried in snow. There's been barely any snow this year, and the cold settled in only recently.
If you have class 3 stuff and can afford it, buy a vacation house in PA to keep that stuff in. The sun is sort of hit and miss around Ithaca. Lots of overcast days and rain. We're similar to the Pacific Northwest in that regard. What interests do you have? |
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Posted: 1/10/2022 4:09:22 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted: Been reading the tacked threads. Looks like I shouldn't have sold my Eagle Arms or stopsign logo ARs. |
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Posted: 1/10/2022 4:25:26 PM EDT
[#3]
The countryside's nice, the fishing and hunting are good. Stay out of the city of Ithaca as much as possible.
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Posted: 1/10/2022 6:07:24 PM EDT
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Handguns are illegal in NYS, doesn't matter who you are or what Licenses you have elsewhere, you cannot legally have a handgun here until...
Now keep that tid-bit until a little later on when clarifications can be made. 
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Posted: 1/10/2022 7:48:00 PM EDT
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Sorry, we’re full.
(Just kidding. Had to say it, since us New Yorkers never get to post that Arfcom classic.  )
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Posted: 1/10/2022 8:18:03 PM EDT
[#6]
Price of freedom out ways any money the communist want to give you.. They will take it all back so pay might look great until they suck you in...
Stay in texas unless your a liberal than please move to ny.. we need to contain the communist |
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Posted: 1/10/2022 9:23:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ARs aren't legal here, pre or post ban. Well arguably if they have a thorsden stock and are otherwise post ban they might still be illegal but no one seems to sell those anymore. Fk. Thirst's tacked thread says pre and post ban matters.... Looks like I better take up fishing before I leave Texas. https://www.ar15.com/forums/Hometown/Work-in-progress-NYS-Gun-Laws-Resource-and-FAQ-small-addition-12-15-2010-/9-307707/ |
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Posted: 1/10/2022 9:38:33 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fk. Thirst's tacked thread says pre and post ban matters.... Looks like I better take up fishing before I leave Texas. https://www.ar15.com/forums/Hometown/Work-in-progress-NYS-Gun-Laws-Resource-and-FAQ-small-addition-12-15-2010-/9-307707/ Very outdated information You could bring a plain Jane Mini, a NY legal M1A or a Garand |
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Posted: 1/11/2022 8:44:02 PM EDT
[#9]
You can enjoy a new hobby like pc games ...
Learn to play Escape from Tarkov it should be called really escape from NYS. |
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Posted: 1/11/2022 10:46:12 PM EDT
[#10]
If one MUST move to Ithaca, stash your stuff out of state, hike the heck out of the area, and have a five year plan to leave or divorce.
Do NOT have kids in NYS or you’re trapped. |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 9:32:30 AM EDT
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Ithaca is a decent location, not too far from Watkins Glen, some very good vineyards and decent wines are in the area.
BTW, I'm impressed by Texas wines, I feel they are better than California. Lots of hiking and out door sports year round. You can't bring any handguns here What you can't have Handguns, (need NYS license) not good in Buffalo, or NYC. Semi-Auto's, with detachable magazine - no features at all Magazines, no magazines over 10rnd's (magazine itself is illegal) what you can have Mini 14 with no muzzle device, folding stock, or pistol grip Browning BAR (no muzzle device) Remington 7400 types Garand (non detachable magazine) Sorta the nutshell... Think 1950's and before mainstream sporting firearms of the day and you'll be relatively safe. |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 12:36:54 AM EDT
[#12]
If the money is that good, live in Sayer, PA and commute to Ithica...
I live in NY and can't wait to retire and get out of here. |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 8:24:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ithaca is a decent location, not too far from Watkins Glen, some very good vineyards and decent wines are in the area. BTW, I'm impressed by Texas wines, I feel they are better than California. Lots of hiking and out door sports year round. You can't bring any handguns here What you can't have Handguns, (need NYS license) not good in Buffalo, or NYC. Semi-Auto's, with detachable magazine - no features at all Magazines, no magazines over 10rnd's (magazine itself is illegal) what you can have Mini 14 with no muzzle device, folding stock, or pistol grip Browning BAR (no muzzle device) Remington 7400 types Garand (non detachable magazine) Sorta the nutshell... Think 1950's and before mainstream sporting firearms of the day and you'll be relatively safe. Your correct about a NYS permit not being valid in NYS unless its been endorsed by NYPD or its a permit issued to a retired leo, but I've never heard that a NYS permit is not valid in Buffalo. Are you sure this is correct? If so could you tell us where we can verify that info? |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:53:45 PM EDT
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Long time western NY resident that escaped about 6 years ago ( totally crazy to move in if you ask me) but I have plenty of friends still behind enemy lines and have never heard of a NY permit not being valid in Buffalo
NYC of course is a different animal all together If you insist on moving the ar’s unless in state compliant configuration ( whatever that means the state won’t put anything in writing on what is ok or not) No mags over 10 rounds ( limited exception for mags over 50 years old) No rifles with assault features ( again limited exceptions for guns over 50 years old) No pistols until you obtain a NY permit ( which the way New York does it with needing local character references on your application makes it near impossible until you are established for a period of years there) All gun transfers have to go through an ffl, even if for example you stored pistols out side of NY and then obtained a NY permit, they would still have to be shipped and transferred through an Ffl All pistols are registered to you via serial number. Simply no sane gun owner would move there In total honesty someone could offer me a half a million a year to move back and I could easily say no without a thought |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 8:11:18 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Your correct about a NYS permit not being valid in NYS unless its been endorsed by NYPD or its a permit issued to a retired leo, but I've never heard that a NYS permit is not valid in Buffalo. Are you sure this is correct? If so could you tell us where we can verify that info? |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 8:25:45 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Buffalo may have some bullshit unenforceable law. Albany claims you have to get permission of the police chief to carry there, lol. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Your correct about a NYS permit not being valid in NYS unless its been endorsed by NYPD or its a permit issued to a retired leo, but I've never heard that a NYS permit is not valid in Buffalo. Are you sure this is correct? If so could you tell us where we can verify that info? Buffalo has no such law |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 8:26:17 PM EDT
[#17]
Ithaca is the asshole of NY state
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Posted: 1/13/2022 9:51:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your correct about a NYS permit not being valid in NYS unless its been endorsed by NYPD or its a permit issued to a retired leo, but I've never heard that a NYS permit is not valid in Buffalo. Are you sure this is correct? If so could you tell us where we can verify that info? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ithaca is a decent location, not too far from Watkins Glen, some very good vineyards and decent wines are in the area. BTW, I'm impressed by Texas wines, I feel they are better than California. Lots of hiking and out door sports year round. You can't bring any handguns here What you can't have Handguns, (need NYS license) not good in Buffalo, or NYC. Semi-Auto's, with detachable magazine - no features at all Magazines, no magazines over 10rnd's (magazine itself is illegal) what you can have Mini 14 with no muzzle device, folding stock, or pistol grip Browning BAR (no muzzle device) Remington 7400 types Garand (non detachable magazine) Sorta the nutshell... Think 1950's and before mainstream sporting firearms of the day and you'll be relatively safe. Your correct about a NYS permit not being valid in NYS unless its been endorsed by NYPD or its a permit issued to a retired leo, but I've never heard that a NYS permit is not valid in Buffalo. Are you sure this is correct? If so could you tell us where we can verify that info? It's 100% valid in Buffalo. |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 9:58:05 PM EDT
[#19]
Ithaca is a dump.
The general area can be wonderful, like most of NY. NY is a naturally beautiful state. Ithaca is in Central New York, which is known for boundless beauty during fair weather, and pure shit nothing when the whether is bad. You referenced Pittsburgh, and as a grad of the finest institution that Jonas Salk ever walked by...winters are much better than Pittsburgh. Even shitholes like Ithaca freeze, and you can run a snowmobile over them for something to do. In my opinion, its much better than the constant temp changes of Pitt. That being said, you'll drive by a lot of despair....such is CNY. |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 10:45:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Buffalo has no such law  . Course it's unenforceable but I always wanted to write and say I was coming to town with my gun and could I get a certificate for the day? 193-1Unlawful to carry loaded firearms; exception. [Amended 11-18-1991; 1-22-2004 by Ord. No. 47.121.03] Any person, other than a peace officer, who shall in any public street, highway or place within the City of Albany have upon his person or carry any loaded pistol, revolver or other firearm without having been authorized as provided by law to carry the same shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by a fine not exceeding $1,000 or by imprisonment not exceeding one year, or by both such fine and imprisonment. 193-2 Commissioner of Police authorized to issue permit to carry loaded firearms. Any person, except as provided in this article, who has occasion to carry a loaded revolver, pistol or firearm for his protection may apply to the Commissioner of Police, and such officer, if satisfied that the applicant is a proper and law-abiding person, shall give said person a permit allowing him to carry such loaded firearm for such period of time as he may deem proper. Any nonresident who does business in the City of Albany and has occasion to carry a loaded pistol, revolver or firearm while in said City must make application for permission to do so, to the Commissioner of Police, in the same manner as is required of residents of said City and shall be subject to the same conditions and restrictions. 193-3 Concealed firearms; at time of arrest. If, at the time of arrest, a loaded pistol, revolver or firearm of any description shall be found concealed on the person of the one arrested, the officer making the arrest shall state such fact to the Magistrate before whom the prisoner is brought and shall make a separate complaint against such prisoner for violation of the provisions of this article. |
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Posted: 1/14/2022 12:50:15 AM EDT
[#21]
Guess my $#!+ is getting stored in Ohio at my folks place.....
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Posted: 1/14/2022 5:07:13 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ithaca is the asshole of NY state You may not agree with it's politics, but there are a lot worse places in the state that deserve that title more than Ithaca does |
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Posted: 1/14/2022 8:13:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You may not agree with it's politics, but there are a lot worse places in the state that deserve that title more than Ithaca does
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Posted: 1/14/2022 8:59:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You may not agree with it's politics, but there are a lot worse places in the state that deserve that title more than Ithaca does Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ithaca is the asshole of NY state You may not agree with it's politics, but there are a lot worse places in the state that deserve that title more than Ithaca does That is true: Utica Jamestown Lockport Better yet….. Dunkirk |
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Posted: 1/14/2022 8:59:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Utica? NYC can be smelled from miles away if you make the mistake of driving in that direction of the state |
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Posted: 1/14/2022 9:01:12 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: NYC can be smelled from miles away if you make the mistake of driving in that direction of the state Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Utica? NYC can be smelled from miles away if you make the mistake of driving in that direction of the state I haven’t been to NYC in over 20 years I think I would self combust |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 8:39:50 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In total honesty someone could offer me a half a million a year to move back and I could easily say no without a thought I replied that they could offer me $150,000 and I wouldn't take the job. 
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Posted: 1/16/2022 10:50:49 AM EDT
[#28]
@Mugzilla
What part of Texas and what do you have for sale now after reading this thread? The money is just not worth it. Even taking guns out of the equation there are so many other things about living in NY that make it intolerable. The general attitude of the public. The constant speed traps on the highways. Property tax. Weather. Cost of gas. Cost of electricity. Cost of produce. No fun allowed. I say all this as someone from NY that left years ago. I can’t imagine it has gotten any better. |
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Posted: 1/16/2022 11:55:55 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: NYC can be smelled from miles away if you make the mistake of driving in that direction of the state I always get a kick out of the opening of the first season of Barney Miller. This scene is how I remember NYC so much as a child (the gritty haze in the middle of the day in summer):  |
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Posted: 1/16/2022 2:53:16 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hard to say as I am pretty close to the east though being on the northern coast we get a lot of sea breeze. I will grant you that back in the 1970's, there was indeed a smell from all the smog. I was still a kid then and that is one of the memorable things I remember when I would stay with my maternal grandparents in Queens. Going outside on a warm summer morning and there was a stinky haze which I did not have back home to the east about 20 miles away. Hard to believe we put up with that crap for so long. I thank the catalytic converter for fixing a lot of that. I always get a kick out of the opening of the first season of Barney Miller. This scene is how I remember NYC so much as a child (the gritty haze in the middle of the day in summer): https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cG5cSxT7ZIw/hqdefault.jpg I haven't been down there in a handful of years now, but every time I get close to that place the stench is evident |
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Posted: 1/16/2022 3:21:38 PM EDT
[#31]
If possible you should look at living in Pa and commuting
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Posted: 1/16/2022 5:30:34 PM EDT
[#32]
Before we had kids my wife and I went to Manhattan for the weekend a few times a year. You scraggly old goats wouldn't know fun if it bit you
 We had a great time.Upstate NY is beautiful, the people are nice, hunting is good. I hear the fishing is good but I don't fish. The property taxes suck and the economy sucks as businesses have been fleeing for decades. Public jobs, universities or utilities and health care are about the only solid employment. The state shifted even harder left after Trump was elected and the useless Rinos lost what little control they had over the senate and the Democrats shifted inline with the really crazy NYC socialist weirdos and their crime loving BLM nonsense. refusing to raise the weight limit on ATVs on public land, refusing to change the width on crossbows-those are both antiquated laws now that side by side ATVs are popular and faster better crossbows are narrower-but why loosen any law? You might have more people using their SxS atvs when some communist cat ladies want to waddle up on a hiking trail for the one weekend they leave NYC area to go for a .75 walk in the woods. New York is like soviet east germany, plenty of people love the central committee and don't really do any work anyway so why not get a bullshit state job and go for a hike among the abandoned farms? I have a relative who after years of losing jobs as companies went out of business, got a state job. He jokes about how he doesn't do anything all day, when cornered he writes ridiculous meaningless memos and other paperwork. The locals just roll their eyes and try to not get caught by the Boss's Men cruising by looking for fires that are too big, the crack of a 12th round from a rifle without a reload, maybe finding a snake you posted a picture of on instagram that your kids came home and put in an old aquarium |
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Posted: 1/16/2022 10:46:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ..., maybe finding a snake you posted a picture of on instagram that your kids came home and put in an old aquarium What did you name the snake? |
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Posted: 1/17/2022 1:31:47 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: NYC can be smelled from miles away if you make the mistake of driving in that direction of the state Dog piss & garbage... The place is a dump. |
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Posted: 1/17/2022 7:21:18 PM EDT
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Do yourself a huuuuge favor and stay in Free America, no good can come from moving here no matter what they offer you! Understand that this is the East Germany of the United States before the Berlin Wall came down. I implore you not to subject yourself and your family to this Communist enclave.
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Posted: 1/17/2022 7:38:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do yourself a huuuuge favor and stay in Free America, no good can come from moving here no matter what they offer you! Understand that this is the East Germany of the United States before the Berlin Wall came down. I implore you not to subject yourself and your family to this Communist enclave. ….. the wall did come down, eventually…  |
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Posted: 1/18/2022 5:29:00 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ...refusing to raise the weight limit on ATVs on public land, refusing to change the width on crossbows-those are both antiquated laws now that side by side ATVs are popular and faster better crossbows are narrower-but why loosen any law? You might have more people using their SxS atvs when some communist cat ladies want to waddle up on a hiking trail for the one weekend they leave NYC area to go for a .75 walk in the woods. New York is like soviet east germany, plenty of people love the central committee and don't really do any work anyway so why not get a bullshit state job and go for a hike among the abandoned farms? I The ATV and crossbow issues probably deserve a revisit, but sound like niche issues that suffer from a lack of support and momentum to get any changes made. I think that the state needs to revisit a lot of things in the laws, but every time the leadership shows any interest in doing so they mess it up badly, like they did with bail reform. I'm not sure what trails the fat ladies and ATVs are sharing. Sounds like more of a downstate problem,or downstate people calling any dirt road a "trail". The farms were bought up in the Depression and turned into state forests. Long before I was born. Am I supposed to boycott those natural resources in some form of delayed rage because the state and feds bought up marginal farming land nearly a century ago and returned it to woodlands? I would think that the only people who might be enraged are the long-dead settlers who cleared the land originally |
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Posted: 1/21/2022 2:38:34 PM EDT
[#38]
Look into property and school tax for the area you're looking to move to compared with where you are in Texas. When I started doing the math for a 30yr mortgage on a 100k house I would've payed 90k in property taxes over the course of the mortgage.
So I bought a house in Missouri. I have lots of great friends in NY, it wouldn't be bad if it wasn't for those running the show. WNY is beautiful. Hope you like driving in snow, that's one thing I miss. 
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Posted: 1/21/2022 7:02:22 PM EDT
[#39]
Did you look at the potential property taxes you'll owe if you buy a house. Gonna be high.
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Posted: 1/21/2022 9:21:07 PM EDT
[#40]
I've looked in to all of these things.
I dont want to talk about it anymore. |
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Posted: 1/23/2022 11:11:49 AM EDT
[#41]
Don't move into Tompkins county, or any county with a larger liberal city at its core. Since your pistol permits go thru whatever county you live in, try to pick a county that's more 2A friendly. I'm in Ontario, the clerks are usually happy to see someone buy a gun.
Usually it's about an hour (with travel) to pick up my gun after the FFL emails me the receipt.As far as long guns. I see a LOT of don't ask, don't tell around here. |
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Posted: 1/23/2022 11:14:00 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Look into property and school tax for the area you're looking to move to compared with where you are in Texas. When I started doing the math for a 30yr mortgage on a 100k house I would've payed 90k in property taxes over the course of the mortgage. So I bought a house in Missouri. I have lots of great friends in NY, it wouldn't be bad if it wasn't for those running the show. WNY is beautiful. Hope you like driving in snow, that's one thing I miss. |
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Posted: 1/23/2022 8:26:11 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't move into Tompkins county, or any county with a larger liberal city at its core. Since your pistol permits go thru whatever county you live in, try to pick a county that's more 2A friendly. I'm in Ontario, the clerks are usually happy to see someone buy a gun. Usually it's about an hour (with travel) to pick up my gun after the FFL emails me the receipt.As far as long guns. I see a LOT of don't ask, don't tell around here. It's going to take OP a while to even get a permit issued because he won't have four local references who've known him for a year. But if that downstate assembly woman has her way, all of upstates unrestricted permits will be glorified residence permits that won't allow you to carry 99%of the places a normal upstate person carries |
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Posted: 1/24/2022 5:01:02 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's going to take OP a while to even get a permit issued because he won't have four local references who've known him for a year. But if that downstate assembly woman has her way, all of upstates unrestricted permits will be glorified residence permits that won't allow you to carry 99%of the places a normal upstate person carries |
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