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Posted: 5/24/2021 2:41:39 PM EDT
I’m seriously considering a move to MO and have a few questions.

The area that I’m looking at is Sedalia or Warrensburg, is there anything that I should know before looking here?

I looked around the web and it doesn’t look like MO had any bad gun laws, not serious ones anyway. Are there any restrictions or additional requirements beyond the federal level for NFA stuff?  Mine are all in a trust and will stay that way, all future additions will be in the trust.

What about a concealed carry license?  I have one in TN, can I transfer that one over or do I have a bunch of hoops to jump through?

Is there anything else that I should know that I’m not thinking of?
Link Posted: 5/24/2021 2:56:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/24/2021 2:57:36 PM EDT by Shootindave]
Not much to report in terms of gun laws. Unless you have destructive devices like 40mm grenades, the wording on the DD law is odd. Some people here seem to think it is possible to have them. I am not sure.

CCW: We have permitless carry. There are some perks to getting a MO permit once you are a resident but it isnt required. I am sure the process is similar to TN, something major.

Warrensburg; horrible traffic in town due to the college UCM. Downtown is bars with college kids.

Sedalia, would be a better option IMHO. The main part of the city has been run down in the last 20 years. I would live on the outer limits of the city, I have quite a few family members in the area. Sedalia is the home of Sierra Bullets and Starline Brass...... so thats cool.

Maybe if you described what you are looking for in an area, and why you are looking in this area, we could offer more in terms of advice.


Link Posted: 5/24/2021 4:07:29 PM EDT
yeah DD's are weird and you can't get a straight answer from anyone, but thats about it.
Link Posted: 5/24/2021 5:59:47 PM EDT
Not much there as far as job's go.  If you want a CC license, then you have to take a course here OR carry without one (better for you if you have one though).  TN is about the same as MO...since you guys just updated your gun laws.  Until this year...we had better laws.

Come on over and Welcome to Missouri.
Link Posted: 5/24/2021 7:26:47 PM EDT
You’ll get to watch B2’s quite often in that area
Link Posted: 5/24/2021 7:54:08 PM EDT
Don't forget about the Clinton area. It's just south of Warrensburg. It's got thousands of acres more of conservation land compared to the areas of Knob Noster for hunting/fishing, if that's what you also like to do. Hiking/biking trails are aplenty most everywhere.

The area north of Clinton off Hwy 13N going towards Warrensburg also has newer homes(if you're looking) and of course lots of farmland and old generation farms.

 I used to work in Warrensburg at a large battery plant(Enersys) and it's a college town, with Whitman AFB just a few miles east of town and before Sedalia off Hwy 50. Also Sedalia is home to the State Fair each year, which is a good place to take one's family for some good fun during August times.

If you also like HAM, Warrensburg has a team of operators that put on events/license classes and such too. As large as Sedalia is, they also might have a HAM base there too and as another member mentioned is home to Sierra Bullets and the last I knew is also home to Black Rain Rifles(AR15s), but don't know if they're still in existence.

Warrensburg is also a open carry city, with same like restrictions of all federal/state buildings, as is many of the conservative surrounding towns/cities within the Johnson/Henry Counties(Clinton area) that are away from KC area. Don't know about Sedalia.



Link Posted: 5/24/2021 9:34:14 PM EDT
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...and A10s.
Link Posted: 5/25/2021 8:29:09 AM EDT
If you're looking to live outside of town in either area, it's about a coin flip for me.  Sedalia might have a bit more to offer but Warrensburg puts you maybe 30 min from Lee's Summit and Independence.
Link Posted: 5/25/2021 11:54:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/25/2021 11:58:05 AM EDT by Paradude54]
Thanks everyone. I hadn’t thought about Clinton. And thanks for the information about HAMS. I’m an Extra class ham and active in an ARES group, this coming weekend I’m part of a group of instructors that’ll be teaching a Technician class, so having an active ham group, especially if it’s ARES, is a big deal to me. And of course good gun laws. I almost built and moved to Colorado about a decade ago and I’m sure that you guys know what happened there. I wound up losing money on a nice chunk of land with my own private shooting range. While I have no issues with marijuana, and think that it should be legal, with the infiltration (for lack of a better word) of the pot crowd Colorado is only going downhill.

Hunting is big for me, though to be honest it’s been a few years since I did any hunting. I’m a paraplegic due to my service and hunting requires some help, and I really hate asking anyone for help doing anything.

It’s going to be a year or so before I can move, but I’m looking hard now. At almost 60 years of age I only want to move once, and since I have a number of large machine tools I definitely don’t want to be setting those up and then tearing down to move again. This move is going to be my retirement home, so the ability to start a business as a gunsmith is important, as is college. I never did finish my degree and it would be nice to do that.  And I’m looking forward to 4 real seasons. We had a decent snow for the first time in a couple of decades and it brought back fond memories of growing up in the mountains of Virginia.

What’s healthcare like?  Things like good doctors, surgeons (especially orthopedic)?
Link Posted: 5/25/2021 1:29:51 PM EDT
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Hunting is big for me, though to be honest it's been a few years since I did any hunting. I'm a paraplegic due to my service and hunting requires some help, and I really hate asking anyone for help doing anything.
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There is an exemption, that allows the disabled to hunt from a stationary vehicle. (Normally illegal to hunt from any motorized vehicle). I have one, and deer hunt from my Rzr.
https://mdc.mo.gov/sites/default/files/2020-11/hme.pdf

MDC has some other options for the disabled;
https://mdc.mo.gov/search?search_api_fulltext=vehicle+exemption

My blind;






A couple that I've shot from that blind. My son-in-law does all the gutting/cutting/dragging for me.



Link Posted: 5/25/2021 2:20:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/25/2021 2:25:08 PM EDT by Triumphman]
I know with Clinton and it's conservation land that those with disabilities can hunt in areas using their hunt vehicle and if large enough cut trails you bring your vehicle into with you and hunt from and going on their trails that are setup with lock-gates. You go to the local conservation office and get a handicap pass to hunt and they'll give you a key to unlock the cross gates to go into, whereas able bodied people must go around the gates and walk into the area and keeping their vehicles off the trails outside those locked gates.

I hunt Clinton quite a bit for squirrels or deer. Got a turkey once there.

Clinton also has Golden Valley shooting range. 25, 50, 100yd ranges along with a separate, but next to shooting range a shotgun area.

 If coming to the area, there's also surrounding towns that might appeal if wanting to help keep costs down than living in either Warrensburg or Sedalia. There's Monserret, Holden, Centerville, Monet to name a few.

If around Clinton, there's Chilhowee, Leeton, Urich for a few small towns. There's also Blairestown, but it's become a dead town, but was once the home of renowned Wall's Gun Shop.

For hospitals, there's Warrensburg  Memorial Medical Hospital and for Clinton it has Golden Valley. Both have Flight for Life and can transport quickly to St. Lukes or other speciality care medical hospitals within the KC area if need arises. My sister in law just a couple weeks had a serious auto accident near Warsaw and was transported to Golden Valley in Clinton, and due to needs was transported by Flight for Life to St. Lukes East, where she got the care that was needed.
Link Posted: 5/25/2021 2:22:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 67Firebird:

There is an exemption, that allows the disabled to hunt from a stationary vehicle. (Normally illegal to hunt from any motorized vehicle). I have one, and deer hunt from my Rzr.
https://mdc.mo.gov/sites/default/files/2020-11/hme.pdf

MDC has some other options for the disabled;
https://mdc.mo.gov/search?search_api_fulltext=vehicle+exemption

My blind;
https://i.postimg.cc/762frK1B/20170508-Blind-Painting-4.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/DwsxCN4c/20170508-Blind-Painting-5.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/8c0Z3QbZ/2017-9-1-Cam.jpg




A couple that I've shot from that blind. My son-in-law does all the gutting/cutting/dragging for me.
https://i.postimg.cc/HxBFNtcV/20171112-RVL-Deer-1.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/kG78QDmB/2018-11-18-Button.jpg
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Damn nice set up there 67Firebird. Well done.
Link Posted: 5/25/2021 2:53:50 PM EDT
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Damn nice set up there 67Firebird. Well done.
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Link Posted: 5/25/2021 8:56:10 PM EDT
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That's one sweet blind 67Firebird!
Link Posted: 5/25/2021 10:06:36 PM EDT
I can't say I've actually been to Chilhowee but my only gripe with the surrounding small towns is other than a Dollar general or Casey's there are no places for groceries.  There's nothing between Clinton and Harrisonville and nothing between Clinton and Warrensburg as far as groceries.  May be something to keep in mind when looking.
Link Posted: 5/25/2021 10:18:02 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/25/2021 10:30:19 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Triumphman:
Damn nice set up there 67Firebird. Well done.
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Originally Posted By Hanz:
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Originally Posted By dab2:
That's one sweet blind 67Firebird!
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Thank you. A couple friends helped build it, and it's been great.


Link Posted: 5/25/2021 11:14:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/25/2021 11:21:04 PM EDT by Shootindave]
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Originally Posted By 67Firebird:

There is an exemption, that allows the disabled to hunt from a stationary vehicle. (Normally illegal to hunt from any motorized vehicle). I have one, and deer hunt from my Rzr.
https://mdc.mo.gov/sites/default/files/2020-11/hme.pdf

MDC has some other options for the disabled;
https://mdc.mo.gov/search?search_api_fulltext=vehicle+exemption

My blind;
https://i.postimg.cc/762frK1B/20170508-Blind-Painting-4.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/DwsxCN4c/20170508-Blind-Painting-5.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/8c0Z3QbZ/2017-9-1-Cam.jpg

A couple that I've shot from that blind. My son-in-law does all the gutting/cutting/dragging for me.
https://i.postimg.cc/HxBFNtcV/20171112-RVL-Deer-1.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/kG78QDmB/2018-11-18-Button.jpg
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Originally Posted By 67Firebird:
Originally Posted By Paradude54:
Hunting is big for me, though to be honest it's been a few years since I did any hunting. I'm a paraplegic due to my service and hunting requires some help, and I really hate asking anyone for help doing anything.

There is an exemption, that allows the disabled to hunt from a stationary vehicle. (Normally illegal to hunt from any motorized vehicle). I have one, and deer hunt from my Rzr.
https://mdc.mo.gov/sites/default/files/2020-11/hme.pdf

MDC has some other options for the disabled;
https://mdc.mo.gov/search?search_api_fulltext=vehicle+exemption

My blind;
https://i.postimg.cc/762frK1B/20170508-Blind-Painting-4.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/DwsxCN4c/20170508-Blind-Painting-5.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/8c0Z3QbZ/2017-9-1-Cam.jpg

A couple that I've shot from that blind. My son-in-law does all the gutting/cutting/dragging for me.
https://i.postimg.cc/HxBFNtcV/20171112-RVL-Deer-1.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/kG78QDmB/2018-11-18-Button.jpg


MO Dept of Conservation also has wheel chair / disability accessible deer blinds and duck blinds on conservation land in the area.

Healthcare: From the listed areas you are within 1 hour to 1.5hrs of all the top providers in the Kansas City area. There is a VA Hospital in Kansas City and Springfield.

There is a fair bit of HAM activity in the area. I have a Tech license, but need to study for the General and Extra licenses. Without code, there is less of an excuse. I also kind of want to put an obnoxiously tall antenna behind my house.
Link Posted: 5/26/2021 2:06:54 PM EDT
Thanks for all of the information, especially the pics of the hunting blind...too cool!!!

I’m moving in the next 1-2 years, I need to take care of some stuff here first, but TN is definitely going in my rear view mirror as soon as I can do so.
Link Posted: 5/26/2021 2:52:27 PM EDT
Have fun planning.  
Link Posted: 5/28/2021 1:53:01 AM EDT
Just some other things to make you aware of.    

MO has personal property tax (vehicle tax based on value) but vehicles reg fees are low.  So it can be a wash.   We also have a state income tax.   So unless you are making a ton of cash not a big deal.  Just wanted to point that out.   We have lower sales tax and cheaper gas and beer.  Also if you have a utility trailer that requires a license plate in MO.  
Just a heads up.  Law just changed that cars need to be inspected if older then 10 years or over 150 k miles.   Was more frequent.  Think TN doesn’t require anything.  Not a big deal but something to be aware of.    Where you are looking would not require emissions.  
My father in law lived in TN.
Link Posted: 5/29/2021 4:39:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By paul1911:
Just some other things to make you aware of.    

MO has personal property tax (vehicle tax based on value) but vehicles reg fees are low.  So it can be a wash.   We also have a state income tax.   So unless you are making a ton of cash not a big deal.  Just wanted to point that out.   We have lower sales tax and cheaper gas and beer.  Also if you have a utility trailer that requires a license plate in MO.  
Just a heads up.  Law just changed that cars need to be inspected if older then 10 years or over 150 k miles.   Was more frequent.  Think TN doesn’t require anything.  Not a big deal but something to be aware of.    Where you are looking would not require emissions.  
My father in law lived in TN.
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Thanks, are things like Social Security taxed?  Do they offer any relief on property taxes for disabled veterans?  I’m 100%.
Link Posted: 5/29/2021 7:15:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Paradude54:
Thanks, are things like Social Security taxed?  Do they offer any relief on property taxes for disabled veterans?  I'm 100%.
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Social Security is taxed only if you receive a certain amount. I've never gotten that much, so I don't remember the amount.

If you're asking about Personal Property tax, you can't get any of that back. You can get some of your Real Estate tax back though. You need the MO-PTC form for that.

Here's an example;

https://dor.mo.gov/forms/MO-PTC%20Print%20Only_2020.pdf
Link Posted: 6/1/2021 4:37:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 67Firebird:

Social Security is taxed only if you receive a certain amount. I've never gotten that much, so I don't remember the amount.

If you're asking about Personal Property tax, you can't get any of that back. You can get some of your Real Estate tax back though. You need the MO-PTC form for that.

Here's an example;

https://dor.mo.gov/forms/MO-PTC%20Print%20Only_2020.pdf
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Thanks, it’s sometimes hard to find all of this information. Much appreciated!
Link Posted: 6/1/2021 6:38:59 PM EDT


Sometimes I think that Google has screwed up their search engine almost as much as the one here.
Link Posted: 6/1/2021 9:24:51 PM EDT
I use DuckDuckGo for a search engine. I think it is better than Google and doesn't track what you search.
Link Posted: 6/4/2021 11:26:01 PM EDT
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