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Posted: 6/25/2022 12:50:56 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/25/2022 9:03:31 AM EDT
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I have a feeling KC and STL might experience some problems - In Da Streets
Link Posted: 6/25/2022 9:22:03 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/25/2022 9:45:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 67Firebird:
That wouldn't surprise me a bit, and maybe the college kids in Columbia too.
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That would not surprise me at all. I'm glad that I don't have any doctor appointments there for about 4 weeks.
Link Posted: 6/25/2022 6:55:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Shootindave:
I have a feeling KC and STL might experience some problems - In Da Streets
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Possibly.  Strangely some people have a problem when rights are taken away.
Link Posted: 6/26/2022 2:11:41 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/26/2022 6:14:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PursuitSS:


Abortion is NOT a “right”. Show me a provision in the Constitution allowing it!!!
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Originally Posted By ColleenTheDestroyer:


Possibly.  Strangely some people have a problem when rights are taken away.


Abortion is NOT a “right”. Show me a provision in the Constitution allowing it!!!


What once was legal now isn't. That is a right that was taken away, even if it doesn't fit every definition of the term.

Link Posted: 6/26/2022 8:28:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By GUNGUY148:


What once was legal now isn't. That is a right that was taken away, even if it doesn't fit every definition of the term.

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It used to be legal to own slaves as well.  By that interpretation, was it my right as an American to own slaves?  Yes or no?  We can play word games all day.
Link Posted: 6/26/2022 9:33:13 AM EDT
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To define access to abortion as a 'right' is absolutely foolish. Nowhere in the Constitution does it enumerate this so it is covered by the 10th Amendment where it should be handled.
Link Posted: 6/26/2022 4:13:34 PM EDT
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Possibly.  Strangely some people have a problem when rights are taken away.
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Sorry, but abortion laws are not so-called "rights" and was determined by the highest court of the land and voted on by a majority number of Supreme Justices of the time when R vs W came before them, and has once again changed by a majority number of judges of this time to be the "NEW LAW".

All the Supreme Court said in its majority vote and overturned RvW, was that it was not for them to make a ruling of law upon, as it isn't listed as a Constitutional Right, and that the ruling was to be returned to the State's to decide if abortion is legal to have there.

Abortion is a medical or personal need/want (for whatever reason) and falls under State Laws is what the Supreme Court is saying. It doesn't prevent a person from traveling to another State to have safely done.

But at what costs? Does insurance cover it or pocket cash is what I think this is all about.

 

 

 

Link Posted: 6/26/2022 6:49:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By delorean:


It used to be legal to own slaves as well.  By that interpretation, was it my right as an American to own slaves?  Yes or no?  We can play word games all day.
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Originally Posted By delorean:
Originally Posted By GUNGUY148:


What once was legal now isn't. That is a right that was taken away, even if it doesn't fit every definition of the term.



It used to be legal to own slaves as well.  By that interpretation, was it my right as an American to own slaves?  Yes or no?  We can play word games all day.


When pistol braces get banned and the gun community screams out about rights being taken away be sure to tell them they are wrong.

I hope you authoritarian conservatives enjoy this short term gain/long term loss.
Link Posted: 6/26/2022 7:39:32 PM EDT
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Abortion has been essentially banned in Missouri for several years now. There was only one clinic in St. Louis performing abortions and they didn’t do many surgical abortions. I imagine the KC area women won’t notice any difference (unless Kansas gets on board). Illinois is still open for business.
Link Posted: 6/26/2022 8:18:18 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/26/2022 8:42:55 PM EDT
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Love this June
Constitution upheld one day corrected the next.
The modern holocaust has been slowed and eventually will be stopped for good.
If you don't want a baby don't get pregnant.
Link Posted: 6/26/2022 10:35:14 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/26/2022 10:44:36 PM EDT
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As far as the abortion ruling. It did not actually ban abortions if you take the time to read the entire ruling. What the ruling did was take it out of the federal government hands and give that choice back to the states to decide. And this falls within the 10th and 14th amendment.
Link Posted: 6/26/2022 10:56:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GUNGUY148:


When pistol braces get banned and the gun community screams out about rights being taken away be sure to tell them they are wrong.

I hope you authoritarian conservatives enjoy this short term gain/long term loss.
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Lame argument.....don't remember anybody saying owning a pistol brace or slidefire was a "right".  Just that it's was a non-firearm that conformed under the GCA, NFA, and banning it wouldn't prevent anything.  They were questionable when they came out anyway.  You can still own SBRs and automatics, so no "rights" were lost.....only a technicality that let people skirt the NFA for a while.  Yeah still BS, but

Just because something isn't illegal currently doesn't mean it's a "right".  Rights are in the constitution and they specifically spell out the "right to bear arms" and the rights of states to make their own laws.  So if you're so butthurt about this, sell us your guns, move to California, and give up other rights.....can't have it both ways.
Link Posted: 6/26/2022 11:31:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By delorean:


Lame argument.....don't remember anybody saying owning a pistol brace or slidefire was a "right".  Just that it's was a non-firearm that conformed under the GCA, NFA, and banning it wouldn't prevent anything.  They were questionable when they came out anyway.  You can still own SBRs and automatics, so no "rights" were lost.....only a technicality that let people skirt the NFA for a while.  Yeah still BS, but

Just because something isn't illegal currently doesn't mean it's a "right".  Rights are in the constitution and they specifically spell out the "right to bear arms" and the rights of states to make their own laws.  So if you're so butthurt about this, sell us your guns, move to California, and give up other rights.....can't have it both ways.
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Originally Posted By delorean:
Originally Posted By GUNGUY148:


When pistol braces get banned and the gun community screams out about rights being taken away be sure to tell them they are wrong.

I hope you authoritarian conservatives enjoy this short term gain/long term loss.


Lame argument.....don't remember anybody saying owning a pistol brace or slidefire was a "right".  Just that it's was a non-firearm that conformed under the GCA, NFA, and banning it wouldn't prevent anything.  They were questionable when they came out anyway.  You can still own SBRs and automatics, so no "rights" were lost.....only a technicality that let people skirt the NFA for a while.  Yeah still BS, but

Just because something isn't illegal currently doesn't mean it's a "right".  Rights are in the constitution and they specifically spell out the "right to bear arms" and the rights of states to make their own laws.  So if you're so butthurt about this, sell us your guns, move to California, and give up other rights.....can't have it both ways.


Lol
Link Posted: 6/26/2022 11:39:55 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/27/2022 7:44:13 AM EDT
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It was predictably fun watching the Sunday morning news shows spin the narrative.  The sales pitch is obviously that this decision pushed every middle of the road soccer mom further left and will end up a big W for the D's.  I think there are more pro life soccer moms than what the media wants you to believe there are.
Link Posted: 6/27/2022 10:16:33 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 67Firebird:

That's the Federal one. Missouri has some kind of trigger law, and made them illegal because they were no longer preempted federally.
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Originally Posted By 67Firebird:
Originally Posted By chumpmiester:
As far as the abortion ruling. It did not actually ban abortions if you take the time to read the entire ruling. What the ruling did was take it out of the federal government hands and give that choice back to the states to decide. And this falls within the 10th and 14th amendment.

That's the Federal one. Missouri has some kind of trigger law, and made them illegal because they were no longer preempted federally.

Yes I am well aware of that fact. The state "trigger" law went into effect about an hour after the SC decision was made public.
Link Posted: 6/27/2022 3:13:10 PM EDT
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I found it mildly amusing the other day when one granny-age protestor was holding a sign saying "Honk for my rights - Roe" on one side and "Give me my rights back" on the other side.

She got maybe 4 people to honk out of the hundred or so cars driving by, then my teenager says "why is she worried about her right to abortion when she's so old?"
Link Posted: 6/27/2022 3:33:26 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/27/2022 5:21:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GUNGUY148:


Lol
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Like Kamala Harris......when pressed and you don't have an answer, just laugh hysterically!!  That'll prove your point!

Link Posted: 6/27/2022 6:03:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By delorean:


Lame argument.....don't remember anybody saying owning a pistol brace or slidefire was a "right".  Just that it's was a non-firearm that conformed under the GCA, NFA, and banning it wouldn't prevent anything.  They were questionable when they came out anyway.  You can still own SBRs and automatics, so no "rights" were lost.....only a technicality that let people skirt the NFA for a while.  Yeah still BS, but

Just because something isn't illegal currently doesn't mean it's a "right".  Rights are in the constitution and they specifically spell out the "right to bear arms" and the rights of states to make their own laws.  So if you're so butthurt about this, sell us your guns, move to California, and give up other rights.....can't have it both ways.
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Originally Posted By delorean:
Originally Posted By GUNGUY148:


When pistol braces get banned and the gun community screams out about rights being taken away be sure to tell them they are wrong.

I hope you authoritarian conservatives enjoy this short term gain/long term loss.


Lame argument.....don't remember anybody saying owning a pistol brace or slidefire was a "right".  Just that it's was a non-firearm that conformed under the GCA, NFA, and banning it wouldn't prevent anything.  They were questionable when they came out anyway.  You can still own SBRs and automatics, so no "rights" were lost.....only a technicality that let people skirt the NFA for a while.  Yeah still BS, but

Just because something isn't illegal currently doesn't mean it's a "right".  Rights are in the constitution and they specifically spell out the "right to bear arms" and the rights of states to make their own laws.  So if you're so butthurt about this, sell us your guns, move to California, and give up other rights.....can't have it both ways.


The gca & nfa are both illegal "laws" that need to be struck down.
Link Posted: 6/28/2022 7:03:42 AM EDT
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The only thing I really get out of this is the pleasure of watching the leftist abortionists melt down.  What is possibly most bothersome is how many of the pro choice people dance around the issue and call this "women's health".  But that's a common theme of the left, inventing an entirely new language to confuse the real issues.  I really like Liz Warren and AOC calling for impeachment of the 5 justices that disagree with them.  There's also a deepening hatred for white trash, rural, deplorable, gun toting rednecks out here in the sticks that can outnumber the KC, Columbia, STL leftists and thwart their agenda.  They don't mind eating our food though.

What I've wondered is what's Missouri's approach going to be?  Do nothing?  Convene a special session?  Wait until January when the regular session goes back?

Edit:  Another point.  Sitting here watching 41 news this morning and there's a story they're running that's unbelievable.  It's about an adoption agency and they're essentially saying how much harder this ruling is going to make their jobs.  Especially because a majority of the babies are of african decent and they want to match them with african parents since they better understand their culture.  Problem is there's not many of those that meet their qualifications to adopt.  

https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/adoption-experts-working-to-navigate-impact-from-roe-v-wade-decision
Link Posted: 6/28/2022 11:40:19 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/28/2022 3:09:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GUNGUY148:


When pistol braces get banned and the gun community screams out about rights being taken away be sure to tell them they are wrong.

I hope you authoritarian conservatives enjoy this short term gain/long term loss.
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Originally Posted By GUNGUY148:
Originally Posted By delorean:
Originally Posted By GUNGUY148:


What once was legal now isn't. That is a right that was taken away, even if it doesn't fit every definition of the term.



It used to be legal to own slaves as well.  By that interpretation, was it my right as an American to own slaves?  Yes or no?  We can play word games all day.


When pistol braces get banned and the gun community screams out about rights being taken away be sure to tell them they are wrong.

I hope you authoritarian conservatives enjoy this short term gain/long term loss.


If being opposed to murder makes me an "authoritarian conservative" I'll gladly take the title.
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 2:14:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AltControlDelete:
To define access to abortion as a 'right' is absolutely foolish. Nowhere in the Constitution does it enumerate this so it is covered by the 10th Amendment where it should be handled.
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So you are saying that the only "rights" we have are those that are specifically called out in the Constitution.
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 4:03:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PursuitSS:


Abortion is NOT a “right”. Show me a provision in the Constitution allowing it!!!
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Originally Posted By PursuitSS:
Originally Posted By ColleenTheDestroyer:


Possibly.  Strangely some people have a problem when rights are taken away.


Abortion is NOT a “right”. Show me a provision in the Constitution allowing it!!!

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Link Posted: 6/29/2022 4:09:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By GUNGUY148:


When pistol braces get banned and the gun community screams out about rights being taken away be sure to tell them they are wrong.

I hope you authoritarian conservatives enjoy this short term gain/long term loss.
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I've heard through the grape vine of ARFCOM that certain federal government agencies are getting ready to get their dicks slapped hard.  Over making their own interpretations of laws according to their own opinions rather than consulting Congress first.
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 8:24:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By delorean:


Like Kamala Harris......when pressed and you don't have an answer, just laugh hysterically!!  That'll prove your point!

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Originally Posted By GUNGUY148:


Lol


Like Kamala Harris......when pressed and you don't have an answer, just laugh hysterically!!  That'll prove your point!

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You are ridiculous.
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 10:16:37 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Brundoggie:

So you are saying that the only "rights" we have are those that are specifically called out in the Constitution.
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To define access to abortion as a 'right' is absolutely foolish. Nowhere in the Constitution does it enumerate this so it is covered by the 10th Amendment where it should be handled.

So you are saying that the only "rights" we have are those that are specifically called out in the Constitution.

That's not what he said. He specifically mentioned the 10th.
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 1:59:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bye_Felicia:

That's not what he said. He specifically mentioned the 10th.
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Originally Posted By Bye_Felicia:
Originally Posted By Brundoggie:
Originally Posted By AltControlDelete:
To define access to abortion as a 'right' is absolutely foolish. Nowhere in the Constitution does it enumerate this so it is covered by the 10th Amendment where it should be handled.

So you are saying that the only "rights" we have are those that are specifically called out in the Constitution.

That's not what he said. He specifically mentioned the 10th.

The 10th covers "powers", wouldn't the 9th be more applicable?
Link Posted: 6/30/2022 10:48:02 AM EDT
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Pro-Abortion folks had 50 years to codify abortion into law.

There is a very specific reason why they did not, they always wanted it on the potential chopping block in order to have a talking point for elections.

Leftists would rather have the power to control your vote, than to use their power to give you rights.

Endlessly grasping for the feds to save you from the problems they create.

The constitutional aspects of Roe were shit to begin with and the fact that it took so long to correct it really says something.

The Republic must be preserved, State's rights and limiting of Federal powers must be of the absolute highest priority, regardless of emotions, if this nation is to survive for our children.
Link Posted: 7/4/2022 5:08:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bladeswitcher:
Abortion has been essentially banned in Missouri for several years now. There was only one clinic in St. Louis performing abortions and they didn’t do many surgical abortions. I imagine the KC area women won’t notice any difference (unless Kansas gets on board). Illinois is still open for business.
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There is a "clinic" in Overland Park KS, just a minute or two across the state line.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 8:00:27 PM EDT
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There is a "clinic" in Overland Park KS, just a minute or two across the state line.
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Looks like 1 in KC,MO as well?
https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/kansas-city-planned-parenthood-to-resume-abortion-services
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Last updated Sept. 10, 2017
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Looks like 1 in KC,MO as well?
https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/kansas-city-planned-parenthood-to-resume-abortion-services


Last updated Sept. 10, 2017



I think the only Mo clinic now is in St. Louis.
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Yeah, they brought it back in 2017.  I haven't seen anything saying it has closed since then.
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Originally Posted By Quantrills_Raiders:

Yeah, they brought it back in 2017.  I haven't seen anything saying it has closed since then.
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Last updated Sept. 10, 2017

Yeah, they brought it back in 2017.  I haven't seen anything saying it has closed since then.


It is still there as the Patty Brous Health Center (Incorporated Under Planned Parenthood Great Plains).

I attempted to book an apointment online and abortion was not an option.

I went to the Overland Park website and abortion was an option on their online appointment scheduler.
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