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Posted: 6/25/2022 9:03:31 AM EDT
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I have a feeling KC and STL might experience some problems - In Da Streets
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Posted: 6/25/2022 9:22:03 AM EDT
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That wouldn't surprise me a bit, and maybe the college kids in Columbia too.
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Posted: 6/25/2022 9:45:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That wouldn't surprise me a bit, and maybe the college kids in Columbia too. That would not surprise me at all. I'm glad that I don't have any doctor appointments there for about 4 weeks. |
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Posted: 6/25/2022 6:55:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a feeling KC and STL might experience some problems - In Da Streets Possibly. Strangely some people have a problem when rights are taken away. |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 2:11:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Possibly. Strangely some people have a problem when rights are taken away. Abortion is NOT a “right”. Show me a provision in the Constitution allowing it!!! |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 6:14:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Abortion is NOT a “right”. Show me a provision in the Constitution allowing it!!! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Possibly. Strangely some people have a problem when rights are taken away. Abortion is NOT a “right”. Show me a provision in the Constitution allowing it!!! What once was legal now isn't. That is a right that was taken away, even if it doesn't fit every definition of the term. |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 8:28:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What once was legal now isn't. That is a right that was taken away, even if it doesn't fit every definition of the term. It used to be legal to own slaves as well. By that interpretation, was it my right as an American to own slaves? Yes or no? We can play word games all day. |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 9:33:13 AM EDT
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To define access to abortion as a 'right' is absolutely foolish. Nowhere in the Constitution does it enumerate this so it is covered by the 10th Amendment where it should be handled.
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Posted: 6/26/2022 4:13:34 PM EDT
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Quote History[b]Quoted:[/b Possibly. Strangely some people have a problem when rights are taken away. Sorry, but abortion laws are not so-called "rights" and was determined by the highest court of the land and voted on by a majority number of Supreme Justices of the time when R vs W came before them, and has once again changed by a majority number of judges of this time to be the "NEW LAW". All the Supreme Court said in its majority vote and overturned RvW, was that it was not for them to make a ruling of law upon, as it isn't listed as a Constitutional Right, and that the ruling was to be returned to the State's to decide if abortion is legal to have there. Abortion is a medical or personal need/want (for whatever reason) and falls under State Laws is what the Supreme Court is saying. It doesn't prevent a person from traveling to another State to have safely done. But at what costs? Does insurance cover it or pocket cash is what I think this is all about. |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 6:49:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It used to be legal to own slaves as well. By that interpretation, was it my right as an American to own slaves? Yes or no? We can play word games all day. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What once was legal now isn't. That is a right that was taken away, even if it doesn't fit every definition of the term. It used to be legal to own slaves as well. By that interpretation, was it my right as an American to own slaves? Yes or no? We can play word games all day. When pistol braces get banned and the gun community screams out about rights being taken away be sure to tell them they are wrong. I hope you authoritarian conservatives enjoy this short term gain/long term loss. |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 7:39:32 PM EDT
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Abortion has been essentially banned in Missouri for several years now. There was only one clinic in St. Louis performing abortions and they didn’t do many surgical abortions. I imagine the KC area women won’t notice any difference (unless Kansas gets on board). Illinois is still open for business.
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Posted: 6/26/2022 8:18:18 PM EDT
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There was/is a “Clinic” in KCK that was murdering hundreds of fetuses
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Posted: 6/26/2022 8:42:55 PM EDT
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Love this June
Constitution upheld one day corrected the next. The modern holocaust has been slowed and eventually will be stopped for good. If you don't want a baby don't get pregnant. |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 10:35:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When pistol braces get banned and the gun community screams out about rights being taken away be sure to tell them they are wrong. Not a very good argument, since guns are one of the listed rights that are protected under the Constitution. |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 10:44:36 PM EDT
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As far as the abortion ruling. It did not actually ban abortions if you take the time to read the entire ruling. What the ruling did was take it out of the federal government hands and give that choice back to the states to decide. And this falls within the 10th and 14th amendment.
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Posted: 6/26/2022 10:56:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When pistol braces get banned and the gun community screams out about rights being taken away be sure to tell them they are wrong. I hope you authoritarian conservatives enjoy this short term gain/long term loss. Lame argument.....don't remember anybody saying owning a pistol brace or slidefire was a "right". Just that it's was a non-firearm that conformed under the GCA, NFA, and banning it wouldn't prevent anything. They were questionable when they came out anyway. You can still own SBRs and automatics, so no "rights" were lost.....only a technicality that let people skirt the NFA for a while. Yeah still BS, but Just because something isn't illegal currently doesn't mean it's a "right". Rights are in the constitution and they specifically spell out the "right to bear arms" and the rights of states to make their own laws. So if you're so butthurt about this, sell us your guns, move to California, and give up other rights.....can't have it both ways. |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 11:31:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lame argument.....don't remember anybody saying owning a pistol brace or slidefire was a "right". Just that it's was a non-firearm that conformed under the GCA, NFA, and banning it wouldn't prevent anything. They were questionable when they came out anyway. You can still own SBRs and automatics, so no "rights" were lost.....only a technicality that let people skirt the NFA for a while. Yeah still BS, but Just because something isn't illegal currently doesn't mean it's a "right". Rights are in the constitution and they specifically spell out the "right to bear arms" and the rights of states to make their own laws. So if you're so butthurt about this, sell us your guns, move to California, and give up other rights.....can't have it both ways. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: When pistol braces get banned and the gun community screams out about rights being taken away be sure to tell them they are wrong. I hope you authoritarian conservatives enjoy this short term gain/long term loss. Lame argument.....don't remember anybody saying owning a pistol brace or slidefire was a "right". Just that it's was a non-firearm that conformed under the GCA, NFA, and banning it wouldn't prevent anything. They were questionable when they came out anyway. You can still own SBRs and automatics, so no "rights" were lost.....only a technicality that let people skirt the NFA for a while. Yeah still BS, but Just because something isn't illegal currently doesn't mean it's a "right". Rights are in the constitution and they specifically spell out the "right to bear arms" and the rights of states to make their own laws. So if you're so butthurt about this, sell us your guns, move to California, and give up other rights.....can't have it both ways. Lol |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 11:39:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As far as the abortion ruling. It did not actually ban abortions if you take the time to read the entire ruling. What the ruling did was take it out of the federal government hands and give that choice back to the states to decide. And this falls within the 10th and 14th amendment. That's the Federal one. Missouri has some kind of trigger law, and made them illegal because they were no longer preempted federally. |
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Posted: 6/27/2022 7:44:13 AM EDT
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It was predictably fun watching the Sunday morning news shows spin the narrative. The sales pitch is obviously that this decision pushed every middle of the road soccer mom further left and will end up a big W for the D's. I think there are more pro life soccer moms than what the media wants you to believe there are.
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Posted: 6/27/2022 10:16:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the Federal one. Missouri has some kind of trigger law, and made them illegal because they were no longer preempted federally. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: As far as the abortion ruling. It did not actually ban abortions if you take the time to read the entire ruling. What the ruling did was take it out of the federal government hands and give that choice back to the states to decide. And this falls within the 10th and 14th amendment. That's the Federal one. Missouri has some kind of trigger law, and made them illegal because they were no longer preempted federally. Yes I am well aware of that fact. The state "trigger" law went into effect about an hour after the SC decision was made public. |
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Posted: 6/27/2022 3:13:10 PM EDT
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I found it mildly amusing the other day when one granny-age protestor was holding a sign saying "Honk for my rights - Roe" on one side and "Give me my rights back" on the other side.
She got maybe 4 people to honk out of the hundred or so cars driving by, then my teenager says "why is she worried about her right to abortion when she's so old?" 
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Posted: 6/27/2022 3:33:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I found it mildly amusing the other day when one granny-age protestor was holding a sign saying "Honk for my rights - Roe" on one side and "Give me my rights back" on the other side. She got maybe 4 people to honk out of the hundred or so cars driving by, then my teenager says "why is she worried about her right to abortion when she's so old?" If she was really old, I’d be worried what happens on her Judgment Day! |
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Posted: 6/27/2022 5:21:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol Like Kamala Harris......when pressed and you don't have an answer, just laugh hysterically!! That'll prove your point! 
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Posted: 6/27/2022 6:03:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lame argument.....don't remember anybody saying owning a pistol brace or slidefire was a "right". Just that it's was a non-firearm that conformed under the GCA, NFA, and banning it wouldn't prevent anything. They were questionable when they came out anyway. You can still own SBRs and automatics, so no "rights" were lost.....only a technicality that let people skirt the NFA for a while. Yeah still BS, but Just because something isn't illegal currently doesn't mean it's a "right". Rights are in the constitution and they specifically spell out the "right to bear arms" and the rights of states to make their own laws. So if you're so butthurt about this, sell us your guns, move to California, and give up other rights.....can't have it both ways. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: When pistol braces get banned and the gun community screams out about rights being taken away be sure to tell them they are wrong. I hope you authoritarian conservatives enjoy this short term gain/long term loss. Lame argument.....don't remember anybody saying owning a pistol brace or slidefire was a "right". Just that it's was a non-firearm that conformed under the GCA, NFA, and banning it wouldn't prevent anything. They were questionable when they came out anyway. You can still own SBRs and automatics, so no "rights" were lost.....only a technicality that let people skirt the NFA for a while. Yeah still BS, but Just because something isn't illegal currently doesn't mean it's a "right". Rights are in the constitution and they specifically spell out the "right to bear arms" and the rights of states to make their own laws. So if you're so butthurt about this, sell us your guns, move to California, and give up other rights.....can't have it both ways. The gca & nfa are both illegal "laws" that need to be struck down. |
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Posted: 6/28/2022 7:03:42 AM EDT
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The only thing I really get out of this is the pleasure of watching the leftist abortionists melt down. What is possibly most bothersome is how many of the pro choice people dance around the issue and call this "women's health". But that's a common theme of the left, inventing an entirely new language to confuse the real issues. I really like Liz Warren and AOC calling for impeachment of the 5 justices that disagree with them. There's also a deepening hatred for white trash, rural, deplorable, gun toting rednecks out here in the sticks that can outnumber the KC, Columbia, STL leftists and thwart their agenda. They don't mind eating our food though.
What I've wondered is what's Missouri's approach going to be? Do nothing? Convene a special session? Wait until January when the regular session goes back? Edit: Another point. Sitting here watching 41 news this morning and there's a story they're running that's unbelievable. It's about an adoption agency and they're essentially saying how much harder this ruling is going to make their jobs. Especially because a majority of the babies are of african decent and they want to match them with african parents since they better understand their culture. Problem is there's not many of those that meet their qualifications to adopt. https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/adoption-experts-working-to-navigate-impact-from-roe-v-wade-decision |
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Posted: 6/28/2022 11:40:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ...there's not many of those that meet their qualifications to adopt. I think that the qualifications and costs of adoptions are a problem too. I don't have any personal experience with it, but I've read about people who wanted to adopt, who found it cheaper to fly overseas and get a baby there. |
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Posted: 6/28/2022 3:09:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When pistol braces get banned and the gun community screams out about rights being taken away be sure to tell them they are wrong. I hope you authoritarian conservatives enjoy this short term gain/long term loss. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What once was legal now isn't. That is a right that was taken away, even if it doesn't fit every definition of the term. It used to be legal to own slaves as well. By that interpretation, was it my right as an American to own slaves? Yes or no? We can play word games all day. When pistol braces get banned and the gun community screams out about rights being taken away be sure to tell them they are wrong. I hope you authoritarian conservatives enjoy this short term gain/long term loss. If being opposed to murder makes me an "authoritarian conservative" I'll gladly take the title. |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 2:14:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To define access to abortion as a 'right' is absolutely foolish. Nowhere in the Constitution does it enumerate this so it is covered by the 10th Amendment where it should be handled. So you are saying that the only "rights" we have are those that are specifically called out in the Constitution. |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 4:03:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Abortion is NOT a “right”. Show me a provision in the Constitution allowing it!!! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Possibly. Strangely some people have a problem when rights are taken away. Abortion is NOT a “right”. Show me a provision in the Constitution allowing it!!!  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 4:09:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When pistol braces get banned and the gun community screams out about rights being taken away be sure to tell them they are wrong. I hope you authoritarian conservatives enjoy this short term gain/long term loss. I've heard through the grape vine of ARFCOM that certain federal government agencies are getting ready to get their dicks slapped hard. Over making their own interpretations of laws according to their own opinions rather than consulting Congress first. |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 8:24:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Like Kamala Harris......when pressed and you don't have an answer, just laugh hysterically!! That'll prove your point! https://nworeport.files.wordpress.com/2021/04/image-1120.png Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lol Like Kamala Harris......when pressed and you don't have an answer, just laugh hysterically!! That'll prove your point! https://nworeport.files.wordpress.com/2021/04/image-1120.png You are ridiculous. |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 10:16:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you are saying that the only "rights" we have are those that are specifically called out in the Constitution. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: To define access to abortion as a 'right' is absolutely foolish. Nowhere in the Constitution does it enumerate this so it is covered by the 10th Amendment where it should be handled. So you are saying that the only "rights" we have are those that are specifically called out in the Constitution. That's not what he said. He specifically mentioned the 10th. |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 1:59:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's not what he said. He specifically mentioned the 10th. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: To define access to abortion as a 'right' is absolutely foolish. Nowhere in the Constitution does it enumerate this so it is covered by the 10th Amendment where it should be handled. So you are saying that the only "rights" we have are those that are specifically called out in the Constitution. That's not what he said. He specifically mentioned the 10th. The 10th covers "powers", wouldn't the 9th be more applicable? |
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Posted: 6/30/2022 10:48:02 AM EDT
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Pro-Abortion folks had 50 years to codify abortion into law.
There is a very specific reason why they did not, they always wanted it on the potential chopping block in order to have a talking point for elections. Leftists would rather have the power to control your vote, than to use their power to give you rights. Endlessly grasping for the feds to save you from the problems they create. The constitutional aspects of Roe were shit to begin with and the fact that it took so long to correct it really says something. The Republic must be preserved, State's rights and limiting of Federal powers must be of the absolute highest priority, regardless of emotions, if this nation is to survive for our children. |
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Posted: 7/4/2022 5:08:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Abortion has been essentially banned in Missouri for several years now. There was only one clinic in St. Louis performing abortions and they didn’t do many surgical abortions. I imagine the KC area women won’t notice any difference (unless Kansas gets on board). Illinois is still open for business. There is a "clinic" in Overland Park KS, just a minute or two across the state line. |
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Posted: 7/5/2022 8:00:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is a "clinic" in Overland Park KS, just a minute or two across the state line. Looks like 1 in KC,MO as well? https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/kansas-city-planned-parenthood-to-resume-abortion-services |
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Posted: 7/5/2022 8:57:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like 1 in KC,MO as well? https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/kansas-city-planned-parenthood-to-resume-abortion-services Last updated Sept. 10, 2017 |
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Posted: 7/5/2022 9:36:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Last updated Sept. 10, 2017 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Looks like 1 in KC,MO as well? https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/kansas-city-planned-parenthood-to-resume-abortion-services Last updated Sept. 10, 2017 I think the only Mo clinic now is in St. Louis. |
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Posted: 7/7/2022 7:06:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Last updated Sept. 10, 2017 Yeah, they brought it back in 2017. I haven't seen anything saying it has closed since then. |
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Posted: 7/7/2022 10:39:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, they brought it back in 2017. I haven't seen anything saying it has closed since then. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Last updated Sept. 10, 2017 Yeah, they brought it back in 2017. I haven't seen anything saying it has closed since then. It is still there as the Patty Brous Health Center (Incorporated Under Planned Parenthood Great Plains). I attempted to book an apointment online and abortion was not an option. I went to the Overland Park website and abortion was an option on their online appointment scheduler. |
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