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Posted: 1/9/2021 12:49:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 36trap]
As we're watching the left's crusade against free speech unfold, it seems inevitable sites such as ARFCOM will be targeted soon enough. Several of us from the big riot thread have been using Telegram to chat and share news when ARFCOM goes down as it has a few times recently. Over all Telegram works pretty slick so I have created a chat group for the Minnesota crew. You'll need Telegram for your phone, computer, or browser which is free to download and use.
Here's the link to download Telegram: https://telegram.org/apps UPDATE: 1/12 The group name has been changed and made private. If you want to join please send me a PM. |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 5:20:47 PM EDT
Tag for research
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Posted: 1/9/2021 9:15:19 PM EDT
Just joined.
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MN, USA
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Posted: 1/9/2021 11:25:09 PM EDT
I signed up today.
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Posted: 1/10/2021 3:13:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Sonicx]
I think this is a brilliant idea for us Minnesota ARF to stay in touch. I’m a bit leery of tech though especially over the last few days. How is this being kept secure so it doesn’t get infiltrated?
Whose the hometown mn mod whom can get some comma out to other MN? |
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Posted: 1/10/2021 10:38:45 AM EDT
In, callsign same as here. This is a great idea, would certainly be useful to diversify into other group comms plans as well.
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Posted: 1/10/2021 1:09:11 PM EDT
When it asks for first and last name, are you all putting your arf username?
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Posted: 1/10/2021 1:24:15 PM EDT
Signed up.
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Posted: 1/10/2021 4:27:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ChickenDaddy]
I didn’t even have a Parler account yet...
Where do we go after we get banned? I signed up and posted somewhere but beyond hitting the link in the first post, have no clue how to use it if ARF dies. |
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Posted: 1/10/2021 4:32:56 PM EDT
What about Signal?
Does that offer chat groups? |
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Posted: 1/10/2021 4:50:04 PM EDT
For backup comms, what about a very simple message board setup on a raspberry pi?
Quick search showed this is more than possible. I'm not a Linux guy, but I'd be willing to buy the pi and host it on my internet connection, provided it stays small (only 2.5 upload, and I need a lot of that). Any Linux experts here want to set up the pi? I already have a no-ip account to keep that stable. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 1/10/2021 9:51:27 PM EDT
Well.....you have another one.
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Posted: 1/10/2021 10:04:52 PM EDT
With amazon shutting down Parler for web services, google and apple killing there app, these guys will get shut down too. Just a matter of time. The left is stopping communications!!!! Get ready for a total blackout!!
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Posted: 1/10/2021 11:12:25 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By ChickenDaddy: When it asks for first and last name, are you all putting your arf username? No. There is a separate place for a screen name. |
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Posted: 1/10/2021 11:55:02 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By Sonicx: Whose the hometown mn mod whom can get some comma out to other MN? Say what, now? |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 1:16:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: LeadBreakfast]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rat_Patrol: What about Signal? Does that offer chat groups? Signal would also be a good place to set something up. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 3:07:35 AM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By Sonicx: I think this is a brilliant idea for us Minnesota ARF to stay in touch. I’m a bit leery of tech though especially over the last few days. How is this being kept secure so it doesn’t get infiltrated? Whose the hometown mn mod whom can get some comma out to other MN? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sonicx: I think this is a brilliant idea for us Minnesota ARF to stay in touch. I’m a bit leery of tech though especially over the last few days. How is this being kept secure so it doesn’t get infiltrated? Whose the hometown mn mod whom can get some comma out to other MN? Unfortunately there is no way to make sure it doesn't get infiltrated. We'll have to collectively moderate it and be very cautious of talking about anything we wouldn't say in public. Originally Posted By ChickenDaddy: When it asks for first and last name, are you all putting your arf username? I signed up and posted somewhere but beyond hitting the link in the first post, have no clue how to use it if ARF dies. I put my ARFCOM user name as my first name. Go to the privacy settings and control what you want to share amongst the group. As for how to use it, think of it as a group text but you don't have to add someone as a contact or give up your contact info. Originally Posted By Rat_Patrol: What about Signal? Does that offer chat groups? Signal does have a group option. You need to know other peoples names or numbers to invite them or send the invitation link to them. Originally Posted By Bearcat24: With amazon shutting down Parler for web services, google and apple killing there app, these guys will get shut down too. Just a matter of time. The left is stopping communications!!!! Get ready for a total blackout!! Perhaps but it's my understanding Telegram operates their own servers and isn't opposed to free speech. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:04:36 AM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By 36trap: Unfortunately there is no way to make sure it doesn't get infiltrated. We'll have to collectively moderate it and be very cautious of talking about anything we wouldn't say in public. Hindsight is 20/20 but would have had to send out the invite link by PM to any arf members and link them to people joining. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:24:21 AM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By Jakezor: Hindsight is 20/20 but would have had to send out the invite link by PM to any arf members and link them to people joining. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:54:52 AM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By Rat_Patrol: A new group could always be started to deal with this. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rat_Patrol: Originally Posted By Jakezor: Hindsight is 20/20 but would have had to send out the invite link by PM to any arf members and link them to people joining. First time using Telegram, but does Telegram or Signal have 1 time use invites or expiring codes? If you really want to control the invites, any multi use code can be stole/found/shared. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 12:12:26 PM EDT
It would seem deciding beforehand which qualities were undesirable and required weeding out might be important. A presumption of monolithic beliefs and ideals by virtue of membership here is rather hazardous for what's being proposed here.
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Posted: 1/11/2021 12:22:06 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By Puck: It would seem deciding beforehand which qualities were undesirable and required weeding out might be important. A presumption of monolithic beliefs and ideals by virtue of membership here is rather hazardous for what's being proposed here. If you believe in the Constitution as intended, and will work to help restore it, good enough for me. We can figure out the details later. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 12:33:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Puck]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rat_Patrol: We have to be non-concerned about minor differences at this point. If you believe in the Constitution as intended, and will work to help restore it, good enough for me. We can figure out the details later. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rat_Patrol: Originally Posted By Puck: It would seem deciding beforehand which qualities were undesirable and required weeding out might be important. A presumption of monolithic beliefs and ideals by virtue of membership here is rather hazardous for what's being proposed here. If you believe in the Constitution as intended, and will work to help restore it, good enough for me. We can figure out the details later. I completely agree. That increasingly, however, seems to not be the opinion of a lot of people who post here (not necessarily this forum in particular, but the site as a whole) or are on "our" side of the fence. Consequently, I think it's important to determine the purpose and goals of what's being proposed here. It's one thing if the idea is solely to simply have an alternate rally point if something happens to Arfcom (as seems to be the case, at least superficially, in the OP), but I don't know if that's what everyone has in mind, given some of the earlier posts. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 1:07:31 PM EDT
I think a secondary line of comms is good in event of an ARFCOM blackout.
Those of us who are HAM or otherwise can reach out over other means will be serving as hubs for info to share with the group. If ARFCOM goes down, with tech/media otherwise shutting down the flow of info, having a backup to letting everybody know what is happening can only be a good thing IMHO. This can even mean stopping people from doing stupid/unnecessary stuff. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 1:11:37 PM EDT
I can kill the invite link at any time.
Much like here, if someone joins and starts showing their ass, we can show them the door. It's more of way to keep in touch in the event major comms like ARFCOM go down and possibly gain more familiarity among MN members. There's nothing top secret happening on the group. As mentioned several of us from the big Riot Squad thread have been using it. It works well and gives us a place to keep the discussion moving when ARFCOM has issues, which has happened a couple times recently. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 1:15:02 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By 36trap: I can kill the invite link at any time. Much like here, if someone joins and starts showing their ass, we can show them the door. It's more of way to keep in touch in the event major comms like ARFCOM go down and possibly gain more familiarity among MN members. There's nothing top secret happening on the group. As mentioned several of us from the big Riot Squad thread have been using it. It works well and gives us a place to keep the discussion moving when ARFCOM has issues, which has happened a couple times recently. Will still eventually get infiltrators, but it would be kept minimum vs the link being shared on an open forum that is known to be monitored by the marxists. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 1:17:49 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By 36trap: Much like here, if someone joins and starts showing their ass, we can show them the door. Know how I know you're new here?  In all seriousness, I'm not discouraging this. I just want to make sure everyone's expectations are clear. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 1:38:48 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By Puck: Know how I know you're new here? In all seriousness, I'm not discouraging this. I just want to make sure everyone's expectations are clear. C'mon man, there are a number of threads the mods have been good about moving people along and even showing them the door for crazy talk. 
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Posted: 1/11/2021 3:10:27 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By Rat_Patrol: I think a secondary line of comms is good in event of an ARFCOM blackout. Those of us who are HAM or otherwise can reach out over other means will be serving as hubs for info to share with the group. If ARFCOM goes down, with tech/media otherwise shutting down the flow of info, having a backup to letting everybody know what is happening can only be a good thing IMHO. This can even mean stopping people from doing stupid/unnecessary stuff. If you don't have a scanner or receiver, suggest you get one and learn it. I have a few and can listen to hams and pretty much all frequencies. Even have a handheld ham radio, no ticket, in the event I would need to communicate in an emergency. If you can afford it, get a Icom R30 handheld receiver. Picks up P25 phase I just fine. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 3:29:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/11/2021 3:37:30 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By Bearcat24: If you don't have a scanner or receiver, suggest you get one and learn it. I have a few and can listen to hams and pretty much all frequencies. Even have a handheld ham radio, no ticket, in the event I would need to communicate in an emergency. If you can afford it, get a Icom R30 handheld receiver. Picks up P25 phase I just fine. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bearcat24: Originally Posted By Rat_Patrol: I think a secondary line of comms is good in event of an ARFCOM blackout. Those of us who are HAM or otherwise can reach out over other means will be serving as hubs for info to share with the group. If ARFCOM goes down, with tech/media otherwise shutting down the flow of info, having a backup to letting everybody know what is happening can only be a good thing IMHO. This can even mean stopping people from doing stupid/unnecessary stuff. If you don't have a scanner or receiver, suggest you get one and learn it. I have a few and can listen to hams and pretty much all frequencies. Even have a handheld ham radio, no ticket, in the event I would need to communicate in an emergency. If you can afford it, get a Icom R30 handheld receiver. Picks up P25 phase I just fine. Been studying off and on for years to get my HAM license, going to get it done. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 3:38:29 PM EDT
Quote History Dammit I'm not having issues with ARFCOM at all yet myself. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 3:44:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Rat_Patrol]
Joined the alternative chat. Same name.
ETA: Underscore and all 
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Posted: 1/11/2021 5:52:01 PM EDT
I’m over my head guys. Could someone email me what I am suppose to do. Like to stay in touch. I’m quite upset a) because things are going black b) I feel like an idiot because I don’t know what’s happening nor what to do.
Appreciate it y’all. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 5:57:50 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By Sonicx: I'm over my head guys. Could someone email me what I am suppose to do. Like to stay in touch. I'm quite upset a) because things are going black b) I feel like an idiot because I don't know what's happening nor what to do. Appreciate it y'all. They also probably have an apple/android app, but we all know how that goes... After you sign up (it requires a mobile phone number, they send you a verification link). Use whatever name you want in sign up (like your user name or some BS). There will be another spot to put your user name as well. After you are signed up, search for the group: MNPatriotchat Use that term exactly. After you "join chat", you are in. There is no pre-auth needed. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 5:58:54 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By Sonicx: I’m over my head guys. Could someone email me what I am suppose to do. Like to stay in touch. I’m quite upset a) because things are going black b) I feel like an idiot because I don’t know what’s happening nor what to do. Appreciate it y’all. See the first post, it has the links you need. Get Telegram for your device and click the group link. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 6:00:48 PM EDT
I've joined. Count me in.
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Posted: 1/11/2021 6:22:18 PM EDT
Just joined.....just moved from fargo to moorhead
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Posted: 1/11/2021 6:36:05 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By Rat_Patrol: I have a HAM base station (VHF/UHF) setup on order, 3 Baofengs (sp?) on order for short range and repeater use. Been studying off and on for years to get my HAM license, going to get it done. I tried once. missed it by 1 question wrong. thought about trying again until I saw they are charging for your ticket. Won't even try now. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 6:41:16 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By Bearcat24: I tried once. missed it by 1 question wrong. thought about trying again until I saw they are charging for your ticket. Won't even try now. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 7:16:43 PM EDT
$50 bucks for the FCC to send you you license.
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/FCC-20-116A1.pdf |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:22:28 PM EDT
OST, to look at later.
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Posted: 1/12/2021 11:18:30 AM EDT
Saw a post on another site that stated AR15.com was shut down yesterday. Did it happen?
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Posted: 1/12/2021 11:37:50 AM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By Bearcat24: If you don't have a scanner or receiver, suggest you get one and learn it. I have a few and can listen to hams and pretty much all frequencies. Even have a handheld ham radio, no ticket, in the event I would need to communicate in an emergency. If you can afford it, get a Icom R30 handheld receiver. Picks up P25 phase I just fine. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bearcat24: Originally Posted By Rat_Patrol: I think a secondary line of comms is good in event of an ARFCOM blackout. Those of us who are HAM or otherwise can reach out over other means will be serving as hubs for info to share with the group. If ARFCOM goes down, with tech/media otherwise shutting down the flow of info, having a backup to letting everybody know what is happening can only be a good thing IMHO. This can even mean stopping people from doing stupid/unnecessary stuff. If you don't have a scanner or receiver, suggest you get one and learn it. I have a few and can listen to hams and pretty much all frequencies. Even have a handheld ham radio, no ticket, in the event I would need to communicate in an emergency. If you can afford it, get a Icom R30 handheld receiver. Picks up P25 phase I just fine. Would something like a boafeng be able to receive messages from a “command center” probably not answer back? But then have comms nearby? What would be an effective range of a cheapish baofeng? |
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Posted: 1/12/2021 11:38:50 AM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By Bearcat24: Saw a post on another site that stated AR15.com was shut down yesterday. Did it happen? The DNS listing was disabled, so... sort of? |
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Posted: 1/12/2021 11:40:16 AM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By Rat_Patrol: First, go to this site do download a program for your computer: https://telegram.org/apps They also probably have an apple/android app, but we all know how that goes... After you sign up (it requires a mobile phone number, they send you a verification link). Use whatever name you want in sign up (like your user name or some BS). There will be another spot to put your user name as well. After you are signed up, search for the group: MNPatriotchat Use that term exactly. After you "join chat", you are in. There is no pre-auth needed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rat_Patrol: Originally Posted By Sonicx: I'm over my head guys. Could someone email me what I am suppose to do. Like to stay in touch. I'm quite upset a) because things are going black b) I feel like an idiot because I don't know what's happening nor what to do. Appreciate it y'all. They also probably have an apple/android app, but we all know how that goes... After you sign up (it requires a mobile phone number, they send you a verification link). Use whatever name you want in sign up (like your user name or some BS). There will be another spot to put your user name as well. After you are signed up, search for the group: MNPatriotchat Use that term exactly. After you "join chat", you are in. There is no pre-auth needed. Wasn’t there some talk about phone numbers being a bad idea in that gd thread? |
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Posted: 1/12/2021 11:40:32 AM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By Er_Mah_Gerd: Would something like a boafeng be able to receive messages from a “command center” probably not answer back? But then have comms nearby? What would be an effective range of a cheapish baofeng? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Er_Mah_Gerd: Originally Posted By Bearcat24: Originally Posted By Rat_Patrol: I think a secondary line of comms is good in event of an ARFCOM blackout. Those of us who are HAM or otherwise can reach out over other means will be serving as hubs for info to share with the group. If ARFCOM goes down, with tech/media otherwise shutting down the flow of info, having a backup to letting everybody know what is happening can only be a good thing IMHO. This can even mean stopping people from doing stupid/unnecessary stuff. If you don't have a scanner or receiver, suggest you get one and learn it. I have a few and can listen to hams and pretty much all frequencies. Even have a handheld ham radio, no ticket, in the event I would need to communicate in an emergency. If you can afford it, get a Icom R30 handheld receiver. Picks up P25 phase I just fine. Would something like a boafeng be able to receive messages from a “command center” probably not answer back? But then have comms nearby? What would be an effective range of a cheapish baofeng? It's heavily dependent on the antenna and terrain/conditions, but realistically you're looking at a couple miles under ideal conditions. |
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Posted: 1/12/2021 11:41:44 AM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By Bearcat24: Saw a post on another site that stated AR15.com was shut down yesterday. Did it happen? I’m on arfcom literally all day unless at work and I didn’t notice anything. Some reported outages though. |
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Posted: 1/12/2021 11:42:21 AM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By Er_Mah_Gerd: Wasn’t there some talk about phone numbers being a bad idea in that gd thread? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Er_Mah_Gerd: Originally Posted By Rat_Patrol: Originally Posted By Sonicx: I'm over my head guys. Could someone email me what I am suppose to do. Like to stay in touch. I'm quite upset a) because things are going black b) I feel like an idiot because I don't know what's happening nor what to do. Appreciate it y'all. They also probably have an apple/android app, but we all know how that goes... After you sign up (it requires a mobile phone number, they send you a verification link). Use whatever name you want in sign up (like your user name or some BS). There will be another spot to put your user name as well. After you are signed up, search for the group: MNPatriotchat Use that term exactly. After you "join chat", you are in. There is no pre-auth needed. Wasn’t there some talk about phone numbers being a bad idea in that gd thread? Not a great idea. I didn't use a real phone number when I checked it out. |
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Posted: 1/12/2021 11:45:33 AM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By Er_Mah_Gerd: I'm on arfcom literally all day unless at work and I didn't notice anything. Some reported outages though. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Er_Mah_Gerd: Originally Posted By Bearcat24: Saw a post on another site that stated AR15.com was shut down yesterday. Did it happen? I'm on arfcom literally all day unless at work and I didn't notice anything. Some reported outages though. |
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Posted: 1/12/2021 11:47:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Er_Mah_Gerd]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Puck: It's heavily dependent on the antenna and terrain/conditions, but realistically you're looking at a couple miles under ideal conditions. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Puck: Originally Posted By Er_Mah_Gerd: Originally Posted By Bearcat24: Originally Posted By Rat_Patrol: I think a secondary line of comms is good in event of an ARFCOM blackout. Those of us who are HAM or otherwise can reach out over other means will be serving as hubs for info to share with the group. If ARFCOM goes down, with tech/media otherwise shutting down the flow of info, having a backup to letting everybody know what is happening can only be a good thing IMHO. This can even mean stopping people from doing stupid/unnecessary stuff. If you don't have a scanner or receiver, suggest you get one and learn it. I have a few and can listen to hams and pretty much all frequencies. Even have a handheld ham radio, no ticket, in the event I would need to communicate in an emergency. If you can afford it, get a Icom R30 handheld receiver. Picks up P25 phase I just fine. Would something like a boafeng be able to receive messages from a “command center” probably not answer back? But then have comms nearby? What would be an effective range of a cheapish baofeng? It's heavily dependent on the antenna and terrain/conditions, but realistically you're looking at a couple miles under ideal conditions. I need something to go like 15 miles under (possibly) less than ideal conditions, handheld. Possible under $150? Eta: really digging this dudes setup  My civilian radio with military headset "Tactical" setup |
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