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Posted: 1/7/2021 6:23:50 PM EST
The mandatory firearms storage bill has been reintroduced for the current session in the Assembly as A-1180.  This is one of the program bills the antis have pushed for years.  No Senate companion yet.




Link Posted: 1/8/2021 9:43:50 AM EST
Pretty sure the Supreme Court already decided that the government can't force people to store guns in locked or unusable conditions.

So we can go ahead and ignore this one.
Link Posted: 1/8/2021 11:52:05 AM EST
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Originally Posted By DaveM4P99:
Pretty sure the Supreme Court already decided that the government can't force people to store guns in locked or unusable conditions.
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True but with New York's history of ignoring Federal rulings it does not agree with, how are you going to fight it unless you have deep pocket and can find a law firm willing to do it? And I can guarantee that Attorney General Garland will not take any Federal enforcement action against a state creating firearms restrictions contrary to Federal rulings. In fact I cannot imagine any DOJ assistance with regards to firearms laws in the next four years if they are more severe than what the Federal government has on the books. Only those states that may pass those "Made in xxx State" intrastate commerce gun laws will be challenged.
Link Posted: 1/8/2021 5:33:07 PM EST
They also introduced the one that requires permit holders to have liability insurance.

NY A0581
Status
Spectrum: Partisan Bill (Democrat 2-0)
Status: Introduced on January 6 2021 - 25% progression
Action: 2021-01-06 - referred to codes
Pending: Assembly Codes Committee
Text: Latest bill text (Introduced) [HTML]

Summary
Requires the submission of proof of personal liability insurance prior to the issuance or renewal of a license to carry a firearm.
Link Posted: 1/8/2021 7:21:41 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CatskillDraht:
They also introduced the one that requires permit holders to have liability insurance.

NY A0581
Status
Spectrum: Partisan Bill (Democrat 2-0)
Status: Introduced on January 6 2021 - 25% progression
Action: 2021-01-06 - referred to codes
Pending: Assembly Codes Committee
Text: Latest bill text (Introduced) [HTML]

Summary
Requires the submission of proof of personal liability insurance prior to the issuance or renewal of a license to carry a firearm.
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But you can’t put insurance on a fundamental right 🤷🏻‍♂️
Link Posted: 1/8/2021 7:22:28 PM EST
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Originally Posted By JPNY23:


But you can’t put insurance on a fundamental right 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Originally Posted By JPNY23:
Originally Posted By CatskillDraht:
They also introduced the one that requires permit holders to have liability insurance.

NY A0581
Status
Spectrum: Partisan Bill (Democrat 2-0)
Status: Introduced on January 6 2021 - 25% progression
Action: 2021-01-06 - referred to codes
Pending: Assembly Codes Committee
Text: Latest bill text (Introduced) [HTML]

Summary
Requires the submission of proof of personal liability insurance prior to the issuance or renewal of a license to carry a firearm.


But you can’t put insurance on a fundamental right 🤷🏻‍♂️


So it's carry insurance? Did NY not sue the NRA for providing that?
Link Posted: 1/9/2021 6:26:00 AM EST
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So it's carry insurance? Did NY not sue the NRA for providing that?
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That was because the state requires an actual brick and mortor presence in the state in order to provide insurance here.
Link Posted: 1/9/2021 7:57:27 AM EST
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Originally Posted By CatskillDraht:
They also introduced the one that requires permit holders to have liability insurance.

NY A0581
Status
Spectrum: Partisan Bill (Democrat 2-0)
Status: Introduced on January 6 2021 - 25% progression
Action: 2021-01-06 - referred to codes
Pending: Assembly Codes Committee
Text: Latest bill text (Introduced) [HTML]

Summary
Requires the submission of proof of personal liability insurance prior to the issuance or renewal of a license to carry a firearm.
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This is one that definitely cannot be ignored since the state already licenses (grants permission) your right to own a handgun. If you simply ignore the new law, they yank your license and you are screwed.

Just remember, it is the weather that is causing people to flee New York. In some ways, maybe Cuomo is correct I have been seeing dark storm clouds forming for quite some time over this state and they same to be getting darker and heavier Too bad they are spreading to other parts for the country too that enjoyed sunshine for a long time.
Link Posted: 1/13/2021 12:33:40 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Aardvark:
True but with New York's history of ignoring Federal rulings it does not agree with, how are you going to fight it unless you have deep pocket and can find a law firm willing to do it? And I can guarantee that Attorney General Garland will not take any Federal enforcement action against a state creating firearms restrictions contrary to Federal rulings. In fact I cannot imagine any DOJ assistance with regards to firearms laws in the next four years if they are more severe than what the Federal government has on the books. Only those states that may pass those "Made in xxx State" intrastate commerce gun laws will be challenged.
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Well, if you really don't have the money, I'll volunteer to defend you with the understanding that my criminal law is so rusty, I could be sending the judge dimensions on playmate of the month.
Link Posted: 1/17/2021 12:32:40 PM EST
I can only *click* so many times on NYS.  
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