I know it's fun for us outside your state to stereotype you all and make fun of Californians, but for all that have stayed and fought the good fight for so long, keep enduring - you deserve more respect than what you get.

(Yes, I tease Californians from time to time)

Even the most vehemently levied hate towards Californians from out of staters pales in comparison to the contempt conservative Californians have for the liberals here.

Indeed!

The thing is, we have been experiencing the consequences of having a single party run the entire government.  It is a party of political criminals who violate their oaths of office and violate the US Constitution every single day they serve.  It is a form of tyranny and a lack of representation in the State's government.  It is BAD.

To those outside California, get ready!  Learn well the lessons from California.

Well I see you are from VA.  So prepare for "no sales to Va", and that will include scope rings, stocks, grip screws and everything involved with a firearm.  You too will be ostracized by your "fellow" gun owners that pride themselves as patriots and the real Americans.

It is tiresome with the absolute drivel that comes out of others that are allegedley on our side.  But even more frustrating then that is when you try and get your fellow gun owners to stand up and fight.  They would rather stand around and shout at the sky saying not one more inch.  Thirty seven feet down that road, and here we are.  Going out to collect signatures to try and defeat the stupid laws, and you meet the dipshits that are walking into a gun store to fill out a DROS and tell you they don't want to put their name on "your" list.  Or they fill those things out....

I hope Va gun owners stop the marches on the capitol, and the jack offs in the park because that time has long past.  You all need to start showing up at the tyrants homes, offices and everywhere they congregate.  Let them know you are not going with this shit.  Block traffic, be disruptive.  If someone tells you its not the time, they are liars and have no idea what they are talking about.  NY, MD, MA, HI, and here in CA we all know how futile the feel good in the park and the signature gathering actually is.

Paul if we ever meet in real life you have a beer on me.

I hate those people too, I always specifically state that I ship anything to ban states.

When last I lived in California I found an FFL that truly believed in freedom and transferred pretty much anything, it was great to see.

I help my family members work around stuff all the time too.  I do my own share of ridicule too though just because I'm an asshole.

There is only a very tiny, tiny handful of BORN HERE Californians . Most of the damn state is filled with INTERLOPERS that moved here in the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s and on and on.
And they all brought their Rust Belt Democratic votes with them and trashed my once beautiful state.

Now that they've trashed it they will flee and come and infect your state with their most excellent BLUE politics. DON"T blame the Locusts on us. Ask them where they were born.
Now that I think on it all my Conservative friends were born HERE.

The dyed in the wool Democrats I know are ALL from Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania. New York.
We should have restricted out of state immigration in 1960. :-) It wasn't what was coming at us from the south half as much as it was from the east.

Bob-

An honest answer is that I didn't start thinking about 2nd Amendment rights until about 20 years ago, and only got active a few years back.  I remember CA being more pro-firearms in the eighties, and am just surprised by the seemingly quick reversal.  I admit having the myopic view of "Not my state, not my problem" - I can't change my past complacency.

I've never used social media b.s. - this is the first online forum I've ever been on.  I don't have all the answers and specifically posted in Hometown rather than GD, because you all have experiences I might learn from.  I'm too new to know about bannings, and any teasing wasn't meant to be cruel.

Also, I never burnt ants..., but did use grasshoppers for fish bait.

You're not wrong and I'll admit to having been a lazy ass gun owner, and I have no good excuse for being one.  VA was pro-2nd until we weren't.  

I fought the good fight when I lived there.  CRPA member at the time.  I sent letters and made phone calls, yet things spiraled into the shitter each year.  On my last couple visits, everyone seems to be setting up their exit strategy.  A close friend completely halted a major dollar home project and is getting his place ready for sale.  He is a gun guy with a CCW.

Tennessee, Georgia, and Texas seem to be popular.  CA folks seem to be afraid of AZ heat.  

Californians have turned Arizona from solid red to purple and now to blue.

After the Minnesota shooting, I don't think you're far away.
I'm in Wisconsin now,  but work in SoCal.
The one take away is a federal ban on ammunition , the Achilles heel..

Transportation across state lines,  BAM! felony,..
It doesn't matter,  Mexico will provide,  but if you're going to be legal you get screwed..
Craziness people...

Don’t forget the great Texas migration .

  So....it doesn't have anything to do with kids being brainwashed in school/college for the past 12 years ?? (3 presidential election cycles)
Or dems moving there from other states ??

And you also think that all Californians that moved there are dems ??

And maybe a little bit of voter fraud ??


 It's statements like the above that truly make me shake my head.....

 Rather than research the facts, use logic and truth to come to a accurate answer why Arizona has changed, the "blame California" straw man gets used.

 But hey....it's the easiest, laziest, and most ignorant way to answer the "why it happened" to Arizona question.






 

Says the man from Idaho, where the same thing has happened and is continuing (182k Californians moved to Idaho in the last decade).  

Nah!, Arizona's political changes have nothing to do with the influx of Californians (682k).  

As you mentioned, in-State "brain washing" and migration from other Democrat-dominated States is also a factor.  

The voter fraud issue is a bit of a wild card, as these other factors are still in play even if the fraud were eliminated.  Also, massive voter fraud could also be a "red herring" as it has yet to be legally proven to be determinative on the election outcomes.

Sky rocketing cost for houses, traffic congestion, ... nothing to see here (7M CA-borne have moved to other States).  Move along.

A key event is the people of CA banning welfare to illegals, only to be overturned by the courts. Now CA is no longer non-Hispanic white majority, but Hispanic plurality.


The result is a large population voting for big mommy government to do nice things for people.

... using other people's money to fund it.

This State is fucked up!  

If we are not careful, the Democrats will fuck up the entire Nation (worse than they already have).

Agreed...

Those rolling blackouts were oh so funny to GD when it was California, not so funny now that it's other states having them.